From - Fri Dec 1 09:39:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from reld01.insa-rennes.fr (reld01.insa-rennes.fr [193.52.94.2]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with SMTP id kB18deKY032616 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 09:39:45 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (zeus.insa-rennes.fr [127.0.0.1]) by reld01.insa-rennes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB2D29ADE6 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 09:39:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from reld01.insa-rennes.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zeus.insa-rennes.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 30613-03 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 09:39:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from barbu.insa-rennes.fr (barbu.insa-rennes.fr [10.1.1.143]) by reld01.insa-rennes.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D7A029ACA6 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 09:39:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (barbu [127.0.0.1]) by barbu.insa-rennes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 287371629CA for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 09:39:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from barbu.insa-rennes.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (barbu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 31414-04-3 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 09:39:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.1.45.203] (pc-telecom78 [10.1.45.203]) by barbu.insa-rennes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E9931629C6 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 09:39:09 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <456FEA8B.4020708@IETR.insa-rennes.fr> Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 09:40:43 +0100 From: Jean-Yves Baudais User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060313) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] impression d'un livret References: <456EED01.1020207@pompadour.net> <456EF89F.3070006@IETR.insa-rennes.fr> <456F5B80.8050308@pompadour.net> In-Reply-To: <456F5B80.8050308@pompadour.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at insa-rennes.fr X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at insa-rennes.fr X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 01 Dec 2006 09:39:45 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kB18deKY032616 Patrick Bideault a écrit : > Jean-Yves Baudais a écrit : >> pstops -w25cm -h13.5cm "4:0L(1h,0w)+1L(1h,0.5w),2R(0h,1w)+3R(0h,0.5w)" > > François Pétiard a écrit : >> pstops > "4:0L(21cm,0cm)+1L(21cm,14.85cm),2R(0cm,29.7cm)+3R(0cm,14.85cm)" > imp_livret.ps bat_imp_livret.ps > > Chose étrange, > ni l'une ni l'autre des solutions > ne me donne un résultat correct ; > les pages logiques sont tronquées par les bords physiques des pages A4. Les pages logiques de imp_livret.ps font-elles bien 12,5 x 13,5 ? Il faut aussi faire en sorte que le fichier issu de dvips soit au bon format, donc ne pas oublier l'option dvips dans geometry. En tous les cas c'est ce que je suis obligé de faire, sinon il faut mettre les bonnes options à dvips (-t ou -T). --Jyb From - Fri Dec 1 20:30:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from thetis.univ-poitiers.fr (thetis.univ-poitiers.fr [195.220.223.1]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB1JUBiS016471 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 20:30:16 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from goldorak.univ-poitiers.fr (goldorak1.campus.univ-poitiers.fr [195.83.66.1]) by thetis.univ-poitiers.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 897C7450C9 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 20:30:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from lapmhcap.mshs.univ-poitiers.fr (lapmhcap.mshs.univ-poitiers.fr [195.220.222.203]) by goldorak.univ-poitiers.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7760146E0 for ; Fri, 1 Dec 2006 20:30:09 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?q?Camille-Aim=C3=A9_Possama=C3=AF?= Organization: =?utf-8?q?Universit=C3=A9_de?= Poitiers To: Liste GUT Subject: confusion =?utf-8?q?=C3=A0_propos_de_la_classe?= exam Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 20:30:11 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200612012030.12012.Camille-Aime.Possamai@mshs.univ-poitiers.fr> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at univ-poitiers.fr X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 01 Dec 2006 20:30:16 +0100 (CET) Bonjour (plutôt bonsoir), Il y a quelques années, j'ai utilisé une classe exam pour produire des QCM. Il existait alors la commande NumberOfVersion{N} qui permettait de générer N versions avec les questions dans un ordre différent. J'ai voulu réutiliser les fichiers de l'époque et je me trouve dans la plus grande confusion. Ma distribution (tetex sur Mandriva 2007) comporte bien une classe exam mais qui semble ne pas avoir grand chose en commun avec celle que j'ai utilisée dans le passé. Par ailleurs, il y a sur CTAN une troisième classe exam, différente des 2 autres. J'avoue ne plus y comprendre grand chose. Ce que je voudrais c'est composer des QCM et disposer de l'équivalent de la commande NumberOfVersion (ce qui semble impossible avec les 2 versions actuelles). Est-ce possible ? Ou bien, est-il possible de trouver quelque part ma vieille (3 ans je pense) version d'exam ? Sinon, je pourrais faire le « mélange » à la main, mais bon c'est un peu bête. Merci de votre aide, --Camille From - Sun Dec 3 10:50:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.5 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS, SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from reserv6.univ-lille1.fr (reserv6.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.20]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB39oOUK083757 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2006 10:50:29 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from reserv1.univ-lille1.fr (root@reserv1.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.15]) by reserv6.univ-lille1.fr (8.13.7/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id kB39oFAO015235 for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2006 10:50:15 +0100 Received: from [192.168.134.100] ([192.168.134.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by reserv1.univ-lille1.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id kB39oKeG029615 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2006 10:50:21 +0100 Message-ID: <45729DE0.7020104@univ-lille1.fr> Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 10:50:24 +0100 From: Daniel Flipo User-Agent: Icedove 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] confusion =?UTF-8?B?w6AgcHJvcG9zIGRlIGxhIGNsYXNzZSBleGE=?= =?UTF-8?B?bQ==?= References: <200612012030.12012.Camille-Aime.Possamai@mshs.univ-poitiers.fr> In-Reply-To: <200612012030.12012.Camille-Aime.Possamai@mshs.univ-poitiers.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sun, 03 Dec 2006 10:50:29 +0100 (CET) X-Greylist: Sender DNS name whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (reserv6.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.20]); Sun, 03 Dec 2006 10:50:15 +0100 (CET) X-USTL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-USTL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-USTL-MailScanner-From: daniel.flipo@univ-lille1.fr Camille-Aimé Possamaï a écrit le 01.12.2006 20:30 : > Il y a quelques années, j'ai utilisé une classe exam pour produire des QCM. Il > existait alors la commande NumberOfVersion{N} qui permettait de générer N > versions avec les questions dans un ordre différent. La commande \NumberOfVersions{} (avec un 's') figure dans la classe exam.cls de la suite examdesign : (texmf-dist/tex/latex/examdesign/exam.cls) sous texlive. -- Daniel Flipo From - Mon Dec 4 10:20:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from thetis.univ-poitiers.fr (thetis.univ-poitiers.fr [195.220.223.1]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB49KVgD019348 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2006 10:20:36 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from goldorak.univ-poitiers.fr (goldorak1.campus.univ-poitiers.fr [195.83.66.1]) by thetis.univ-poitiers.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B944519F; Mon, 4 Dec 2006 10:20:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from lapmhcap.mshs.univ-poitiers.fr (lapmhcap.mshs.univ-poitiers.fr [195.220.222.203]) by goldorak.univ-poitiers.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D41614970; Mon, 4 Dec 2006 10:20:29 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?q?Camille-Aim=C3=A9_Possama=C3=AF?= Organization: =?utf-8?q?Universit=C3=A9_de?= Poitiers To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] confusion =?utf-8?q?=C3=83=C2=A0_propos_de_la_classe?= exam Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 10:20:32 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 Cc: Daniel Flipo References: <200612012030.12012.Camille-Aime.Possamai@mshs.univ-poitiers.fr> <45729DE0.7020104@univ-lille1.fr> In-Reply-To: <45729DE0.7020104@univ-lille1.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200612041020.32259.Camille-Aime.Possamai@mshs.univ-poitiers.fr> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at univ-poitiers.fr X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:20:36 +0100 (CET) Merci pour cette réponse. J'ai en effet trouvé examdesign et la commande NumberOfVersions. Trois classes portant le même le nom et faisant des choses différentes, ça fait un peu désordre tout de même :) A+, --Camille Le dimanche 3 décembre 2006 10:50, Daniel Flipo a écrit : > Camille-Aimé Possamaï a écrit le 01.12.2006 20:30 : > > Il y a quelques années, j'ai utilisé une classe exam pour produire des > > QCM. Il existait alors la commande NumberOfVersion{N} qui permettait de > > générer N versions avec les questions dans un ordre différent. > > La commande \NumberOfVersions{} (avec un 's') figure dans la classe > exam.cls de la suite examdesign : > (texmf-dist/tex/latex/examdesign/exam.cls) sous texlive. From - Mon Dec 4 10:25:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr (amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.2.202]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB49Orbl022344 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2006 10:24:53 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr (tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.24.22]) by amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7/Configured by JE 21 07 2006) with ESMTP id kB49Orhl059554 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2006 10:24:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 469A5250423 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2006 10:24:53 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Scanned on tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr Received: from tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LKiZ6-B4G8x2 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2006 10:24:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from tibre2.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre2.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.24.10]) by tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 159BA25041C for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2006 10:24:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from euclide.ujf-grenoble.fr (euclide.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.48.255.207]) by tibre2.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id kB49OrYq076303 for ; Mon, 4 Dec 2006 10:24:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from thierry.bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr) Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 10:24:48 +0100 From: Thierry Bouche Organization: Institut Fourier X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <937676660.20061204102448@ujf-grenoble.fr> To: gut@ens.fr Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_[gut]_confusion_=C3=83=C2=83=C3=82=C2=A0_propos_de_la_classe_exam?= In-Reply-To: <200612041020.32259.Camille-Aime.Possamai@mshs.univ-poitiers.fr> References: <200612012030.12012.Camille-Aime.Possamai@mshs.univ-poitiers.fr> <45729DE0.7020104@univ-lille1.fr> <200612041020.32259.Camille-Aime.Possamai@mshs.univ-poitiers.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:24:53 +0100 (CET) CA> Trois classes portant le même le nom et faisant des choses différentes, ça CA> fait un peu désordre tout de même :) je pensais à ça l'autre jour : la licence LPPL interdit de modifier un fichier et de lui laisser le même nom. Tout le monde trouve ça très bien. Mais *rien* n'interdit de créer un nouveau fichier et de lui donner le même nom qu'un autre qui existe déjà. Donc, si on tombe sur deux extensions latex qui portent le même nom, c'est a priori qu'elles sont vraiment différentes ! Thierry From - Tue Dec 5 20:51:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.5 required=5.0 tests=SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from outmx012.isp.belgacom.be (outmx012.isp.belgacom.be [195.238.5.70]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB5Jpevb075349 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2006 20:51:45 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from outmx012.isp.belgacom.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by outmx012.isp.belgacom.be (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11/Skynet-OUT-2.22) with ESMTP id kB5JpVls032011 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2006 20:51:31 +0100 (envelope-from ) Received: from [192.168.0.185] (106.17-65-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [87.65.17.106]) by outmx012.isp.belgacom.be (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11/Skynet-OUT-2.22) with ESMTP id kB5JpTcV031989 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2006 20:51:29 +0100 (envelope-from ) Message-ID: <4575CDC8.3070002@swing.be> Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 20:51:36 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHDq2wgQ2hhbXBlbm9pcw==?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; fr-FR; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040913 X-Accept-Language: fr-be, fr-fr, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] confusion =?UTF-8?B?w6AgcHJvcG9zIGRlIGxhIGNsYXNzZSBleGE=?= =?UTF-8?B?bQ==?= References: <200612012030.12012.Camille-Aime.Possamai@mshs.univ-poitiers.fr> <45729DE0.7020104@univ-lille1.fr> <200612041020.32259.Camille-Aime.Possamai@mshs.univ-poitiers.fr> In-Reply-To: <200612041020.32259.Camille-Aime.Possamai@mshs.univ-poitiers.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 05 Dec 2006 20:51:45 +0100 (CET) DF>>exam.cls de la suite examdesign : DF>>(texmf-dist/tex/latex/examdesign/exam.cls) sous texlive. > CAP> Trois classes portant le même le nom et faisant des choses différentes, ça CAP> fait un peu désordre tout de même :) > Bonjour, en fait, depuis le 7 septembre 2006, l'auteur de la classe exam.cls concernée a accepté son changement de nom : elle s'appelle désormais examdesign.cls sur CTAN. Voir l'annonce de la liste ctan-ann : Cordialement, -- Michaël Champenois From - Wed Dec 6 18:28:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from relay-dm.club-internet.fr (relay-dm.club-internet.fr [194.158.104.222]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB6HRrcY084385 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2006 18:27:58 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from AndrHETZEL (i04m-87-90-124-115.d4.club-internet.fr [87.90.124.115]) by relay-dm.club-internet.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 0AA6925608 for ; Wed, 6 Dec 2006 18:27:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <000601c7195b$da2080b0$0201a8c0@AndrHETZEL> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Hetzel?= To: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?mise_=E0_jour_frenchb?= Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 18:27:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 06 Dec 2006 18:27:58 +0100 (CET) Je voudrais mettre à jour frenchb et le document http://daniel.flipo.free.fr/frenchb/index.html dit de commencer par remplacer le fichier frenchb.dtx qui se trouve souvent dans le répertoire texm/source/generic/babel. Mais le mien se trouve dans C:\texmf\source\babel-src.cab, ce qui doit être un dossier compressé ; ce qui ne m'inspire pas confiance. Je crois que babel et frenchb sont installés sur ma configuration miktex puisque ces packages sont acceptés. On y trouve par ailleurs les répertoires babel suivants : C:\texmf\tex\generic\babel\ C:\texmf\doc\generic\babel\ Je ne vois pas bien ce qu'il faut faire. A. Hetzel From - Thu Dec 7 14:17:14 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from reserv6.univ-lille1.fr (reserv6.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.20]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB7DH3pM055710 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2006 14:17:08 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from reserv2.univ-lille1.fr (root@reserv2.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.90]) by reserv6.univ-lille1.fr (8.13.7/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id kB7DGogA017276 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2006 14:16:50 +0100 Received: from [192.168.134.100] ([192.168.134.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by reserv2.univ-lille1.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id kB7DGxJ7009603 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2006 14:17:01 +0100 Message-ID: <45781453.9060606@univ-lille1.fr> Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 14:17:07 +0100 From: Daniel Flipo User-Agent: Icedove 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] mise =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E0_jour_frenchb?= References: <000601c7195b$da2080b0$0201a8c0@AndrHETZEL> In-Reply-To: <000601c7195b$da2080b0$0201a8c0@AndrHETZEL> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 07 Dec 2006 14:17:08 +0100 (CET) X-Greylist: Sender DNS name whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (reserv6.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.20]); Thu, 07 Dec 2006 14:16:50 +0100 (CET) X-USTL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-USTL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-USTL-MailScanner-From: daniel.flipo@univ-lille1.fr André Hetzel a écrit le 06.12.2006 18:27 : > Je voudrais mettre à jour frenchb et le document > http://daniel.flipo.free.fr/frenchb/index.html dit de commencer par > remplacer le fichier > frenchb.dtx qui se trouve souvent dans le répertoire > texm/source/generic/babel. > > Mais le mien se trouve dans C:\texmf\source\babel-src.cab, ce qui doit > être un dossier compressé ; ce qui ne m'inspire pas confiance. > > Je crois que babel et frenchb sont installés sur ma configuration miktex > puisque ces packages sont acceptés. On y trouve par ailleurs les > répertoires babel suivants : > C:\texmf\tex\generic\babel\ > C:\texmf\doc\generic\babel\ > > Je ne vois pas bien ce qu'il faut faire. Mettez les fichiers frenchb.dtx et frenchb.ins où vous voulez, compilez (comme indiqué) frenchb.ins, ça vous donnera 2 fichiers frenchb.ldf et frenchb.cfg qui doivent remplacer les anciens (probablement dansC:\texmf\tex\generic\babel). -- Daniel Flipo From - Thu Dec 7 20:12:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from relay-dm.club-internet.fr (relay-dm.club-internet.fr [194.158.104.222]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB7JBlua089945 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2006 20:11:52 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from AndrHETZEL (i04m-87-90-124-115.d4.club-internet.fr [87.90.124.115]) by relay-dm.club-internet.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E3E325606 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2006 20:11:46 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <000b01c71a33$899f20f0$0201a8c0@AndrHETZEL> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Hetzel?= To: References: <000601c7195b$da2080b0$0201a8c0@AndrHETZEL> <45781453.9060606@univ-lille1.fr> Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_=5Bgut=5D_mise_=E0_jour_frenchb?= Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 20:11:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 07 Dec 2006 20:11:52 +0100 (CET) Daniel Flipo a écrit le 07/12/2006 14:17 : > > Mettez les fichiers frenchb.dtx et frenchb.ins où vous voulez, compilez > (comme indiqué) frenchb.ins, ça vous donnera 2 fichiers frenchb.ldf et > frenchb.cfg qui doivent remplacer les anciens (probablement > dansC:\texmf\tex\generic\babel). > J'ai mis frenchb.dtx et frenchb.ins dans le bureau et j'ai lancé latex à partir de winedt et les fichiers créés l'ont été eux aussi dans le bureau. Je les ai mis dans C:\texmf\tex\generic\babel après avoir effacé les anciens fichiers et apparemment ça marche. Merci. A. H. From - Fri Dec 8 00:11:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp-msa-out21.orange.fr (smtp21.orange.fr [80.12.242.46] (may be forged)) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB7NArBP059957 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 00:10:59 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [192.168.1.10] (ASte-Genev-Bois-154-1-17-220.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.249.176.220]) by mwinf2106.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 95EEF1C00092 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 00:10:53 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061207231053614.95EEF1C00092@mwinf2106.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000601c7195b$da2080b0$0201a8c0@AndrHETZEL> References: <000601c7195b$da2080b0$0201a8c0@AndrHETZEL> Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 00:10:31 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr From: Pierre LAUGINIE Subject: Re: [gut] mise =?iso-8859-1?Q?=E0_jour_frenchb?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" X-Milter-DNSRBL: GOOD relayIP match 127.0.0.3 (blacklisted) for 81.249.176.220 in combined.njabl.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 00:10:59 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kB7NArBP059957 Cet échange me conduit à vous poser une question : de quand date cette dernière mise à jour de frenchb ? Mon installation remonte au mois de mai 2006 (TeXshop) après passage à Mac OSX. Faut-il mettre à jour ? Plus généralement, comment se tenir au courant des différentes mises à jour concernant Tex-LaTeX ? Bien cordialement, P. Lauginie >Je voudrais mettre à jour frenchb et le document >http://daniel.flipo.free.fr/frenchb/index.html >dit de commencer par remplacer le fichier >frenchb.dtx qui se trouve souvent dans le >répertoire texm/source/generic/babel. > >Mais le mien se trouve dans >C:\texmf\source\babel-src.cab, ce qui doit être >un dossier compressé ; ce qui ne m'inspire pas >confiance. > >Je crois que babel et frenchb sont installés sur >ma configuration miktex puisque ces packages >sont acceptés. On y trouve par ailleurs les >répertoires babel suivants : >C:\texmf\tex\generic\babel\ >C:\texmf\doc\generic\babel\ > >Je ne vois pas bien ce qu'il faut faire. > >A. Hetzel -- Pierre LAUGINIE Maître de Conférences honoraire Groupe d'Histoire et de Diffusion des Sciences d'Orsay (GHDSO) Université Paris-Sud, centre d'Orsay, bât. 407. F-91405 Orsay cedex Phone : GHDSO 33-(0)1 69 15 61 79 or - 43 99 (secretary) Home 33-(0)1 69 07 07 24 From - Fri Dec 8 02:46:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from chemistry.ohio-state.edu (chemistry.ohio-state.edu [128.146.235.235]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB81jmfD057116 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 02:45:54 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from chemistry.ohio-state.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chemistry.ohio-state.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kB81jice026672 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2006 20:45:44 -0500 (EST) Received: (from pdupre@localhost) by chemistry.ohio-state.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id kB81jhJ5026671 for gut@ens.fr; Thu, 7 Dec 2006 20:45:43 -0500 (EST) From: Patrick Dupre Message-Id: <200612080145.kB81jhJ5026671@chemistry.ohio-state.edu> Subject: footnotesep To: gut@ens.fr (Gutenberg) Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 20:45:43 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 02:45:55 +0100 (CET) Bonjour, Je voulais changer la separation entre les notes de bas de pages avec footnotesep. Mais comment dois-je faire, par exemple ou ? Merci. -- --- ============================================================================== Patrick DUPRE | | Department of Chemistry | | Phone: (614) 292-8406 Ohio State University | | Fax: (614) 292-1948 120 West 18th Avenue | | Columbus, OH 43210-1173 | | email: pdupre@chemistry.ohio-state.edu ============================================================================== From - Fri Dec 8 07:55:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.5 required=5.0 tests=SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from thetis.univ-poitiers.fr (thetis.univ-poitiers.fr [195.220.223.1]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB86t44S046247 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 07:55:09 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from goldorak.univ-poitiers.fr (goldorak1.campus.univ-poitiers.fr [195.83.66.1]) by thetis.univ-poitiers.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FB845159 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 07:55:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from jaina.univ-poitiers.fr (jaina.univ-poitiers.fr [195.83.66.35]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by goldorak.univ-poitiers.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F9C01584A for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 07:55:02 +0100 (CET) Received: (from apache@localhost) by jaina.univ-poitiers.fr (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11/Submit) id kB86tOXb008645 for gut@ens.fr; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 07:55:24 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: jaina.univ-poitiers.fr: apache set sender to claude.chaigne@univ-poitiers.fr using -f Received: from ACB90807.ipt.aol.com (ACB90807.ipt.aol.com [172.185.8.7]) by webmail.univ-poitiers.fr (IMP) with HTTP for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 07:55:24 +0100 Message-ID: <1165560924.45790c5c79563@webmail.univ-poitiers.fr> Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 07:55:24 +0100 From: Chaigne Claude To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Pb =?iso-8859-1?b?YXBy6HM=?= mise =?iso-8859-1?b?4A==?= jour frenchb References: <000601c7195b$da2080b0$0201a8c0@AndrHETZEL> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at univ-poitiers.fr X-Milter-DNSRBL: GOOD relayIP match 127.0.0.3 (blacklisted) for 172.185.8.7 in combined.njabl.org X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 07:55:09 +0100 (CET) Bonjour, J'ai voulu mettre à jour la version frenchb et j'ai peut-être joué à l'apprenti sorcier. Je dessine mes figures avec jpicedt et j'utilise l'extension .tex pour inclure les fichiers que j'obtiens. Si j'ai bien compris, j'utilise donc les commandes du <> pstricks. Depuis l'installation de frenchb, Je n'obtiens plus mes figures exceptés les textes (contenus dans la figure). Je crois avoir fait de nombreux essais depuis plusieurs années en récupérant frenchle, frenchpro, french puis frenchb: j'ai plutôt du mal à m'y retrouver. Pourriez-vous m'aiguiller, s'il vous plait, sur une direction à prendre? Une en-tête de fichier qui permettait un bon fonctionement avant la mise à jour: \documentclass{exam} \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \usepackage[french]{babel} \usepackage{color} \usepackage[dvips]{graphicx} \usepackage{pstricks} \usepackage{listings} \usepackage{lscape} \usepackage{amsmath} %\usepackage[frenchb]{babel} %\usepackage{pstricks} Faut-il que je fasse passer un fichier.log? Merci d'avance Claude Chaigne From - Fri Dec 8 08:27:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2-g19.free.fr (smtp2-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.28]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB87Rk2t067892 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 08:27:51 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (sju13-3-82-234-221-201.fbx.proxad.net [82.234.221.201]) by smtp2-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF2107D07 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 08:27:45 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <457913F5.7060807@geo.hmg.inpg.fr> Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 08:27:49 +0100 From: xavier roguiez User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (Windows/20061025) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] mise =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E0_jour_frenchb?= References: <000601c7195b$da2080b0$0201a8c0@AndrHETZEL> <45781453.9060606@univ-lille1.fr> <000b01c71a33$899f20f0$0201a8c0@AndrHETZEL> In-Reply-To: <000b01c71a33$899f20f0$0201a8c0@AndrHETZEL> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 08:27:51 +0100 (CET) André Hetzel wrote: > Daniel Flipo a écrit le 07/12/2006 14:17 : >> >> Mettez les fichiers frenchb.dtx et frenchb.ins où vous voulez, compilez >> (comme indiqué) frenchb.ins, ça vous donnera 2 fichiers frenchb.ldf et >> frenchb.cfg qui doivent remplacer les anciens (probablement >> dansC:\texmf\tex\generic\babel). >> > J'ai mis frenchb.dtx et frenchb.ins dans le bureau et j'ai lancé latex > à partir de winedt et les fichiers créés l'ont été eux aussi dans le > bureau. Je les ai mis dans C:\texmf\tex\generic\babel après avoir > effacé les anciens fichiers et apparemment ça marche. > Merci. > > A. H. > > Bonjour, Je réagis un peu tard, mais je crois qu'il est préférable de modifier votre installation dans les répertoires personnels, ceux du type c:\texmf-local\tex\generic\babel où vous retrouverez la même arborescence. Comme çà vous si vous devez réinstaller la même version vous conservez la trace des modifications que vous avez faites. C'est, sauf erreur, le répertoire qui est regardé en premier (a voir dans vos fichiers de configuration) Xavier roguiez From - Fri Dec 8 09:41:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr (smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr [193.252.23.120] (may be forged)) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB88fouH023900 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 09:41:51 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0114.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D84367000088 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 09:41:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (ALille-257-1-33-124.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.204.68.124]) by mwinf0114.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id AA9AA7000083 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 09:41:50 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061208084150698.AA9AA7000083@mwinf0114.orange.fr X-ME-User-Auth: dbitouze Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 09:42:09 +0100 From: Denis =?ISO-8859-1?B?Qml0b3V66Q==?= To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] footnotesep Message-ID: <20061208094209.198996c6@localhost> In-Reply-To: <200612080145.kB81jhJ5026671@chemistry.ohio-state.edu> References: <200612080145.kB81jhJ5026671@chemistry.ohio-state.edu> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.3; i586-mandriva-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 09:41:51 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kB88fouH023900 Le Thu, 7 Dec 2006 20:45:43 -0500 (EST) Patrick Dupre a écrit : > Je voulais changer la separation entre les notes de bas de pages avec > footnotesep. Mais comment dois-je faire, par exemple ou ? En préambule : \setlength{\footnotesep}{} Pas testé. -- Denis From - Fri Dec 8 09:45:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr (smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr [193.252.23.120] (may be forged)) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB88itwh026245 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 09:44:55 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0114.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4EA71700008C for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 09:44:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (ALille-257-1-33-124.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.204.68.124]) by mwinf0114.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 207A47000089 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 09:44:55 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061208084455133.207A47000089@mwinf0114.orange.fr X-ME-User-Auth: dbitouze Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 09:45:13 +0100 From: Denis =?ISO-8859-1?B?Qml0b3V66Q==?= To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] mise =?ISO-8859-1?B?4A==?= jour frenchb Message-ID: <20061208094513.1e995c53@localhost> In-Reply-To: References: <000601c7195b$da2080b0$0201a8c0@AndrHETZEL> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.3; i586-mandriva-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 09:44:55 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kB88itwh026245 Le Fri, 8 Dec 2006 00:10:31 +0100 Pierre LAUGINIE a écrit : > Plus généralement, comment se tenir au courant > des différentes mises à jour concernant Tex-LaTeX S'abonner à la liste ctan-ann : https://lists.dante.de/mailman/listinfo/ctan-ann -- Denis From - Fri Dec 8 09:57:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from reserv6.univ-lille1.fr (reserv6.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.20]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB88v7TF035657 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 09:57:14 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from reserv2.univ-lille1.fr (root@reserv2.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.90]) by reserv6.univ-lille1.fr (8.13.7/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id kB88utlZ021850 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 09:56:55 +0100 Received: from [192.168.134.100] ([192.168.134.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by reserv2.univ-lille1.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id kB88uwh1012495 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 09:56:59 +0100 Message-ID: <457928E8.2070600@univ-lille1.fr> Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 09:57:12 +0100 From: Daniel Flipo User-Agent: Icedove 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] mise =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E0_jour_frenchb?= References: <000601c7195b$da2080b0$0201a8c0@AndrHETZEL> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 09:57:15 +0100 (CET) X-Greylist: Sender DNS name whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (reserv6.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.20]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 09:56:55 +0100 (CET) X-USTL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-USTL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-USTL-MailScanner-From: daniel.flipo@univ-lille1.fr Bonjour, Pierre LAUGINIE a écrit le 08.12.2006 00:10 : > Cet échange me conduit à vous poser une question : de quand date cette > dernière mise à jour de frenchb ? Mon installation remonte au mois de > mai 2006 (TeXshop) après passage à Mac OSX. Faut-il mettre à jour ? Non, la dernière mise à jour de frenchb date du 6 février 2005 (v.1.6g). Vous trouverez toujours ici http://daniel.flipo.free.fr/frenchb/ la dernière version officielle de frenchb et les références de la version officielle de babel (3.8g du 21 mai 2005 actuellement). J'en profite pour indiquer que je travaille actuellement à une nouvelle version (2.0.) En effet, frenchb est sorti il y a un peu plus de dix ans et depuis bien des choses ont changé : le support pour LaTeX-2.09, pour mlLaTeX, n'ont plus grand sens aujourd'hui mais compliquent inutilement le code ; d'autre part de multiples ajouts ont été fait et une remise à plat me semble nécessaire. En particulier je souhaite regrouper les multiples options affectant la maquette (\StandardLayout, \FrenchLayout, \FrenchFootnotes, etc.) en une commande \frenchbsetup{} avec une syntaxe à la keyval. Si vous avez des suggestions c'est le moment :-) > Plus généralement, comment se tenir au courant des différentes mises à > jour concernant Tex-LaTeX ? Allez voir sur http://ctan.loria.fr/ctan-ann/ ou abonnez-vous à la liste ctan-ann@dante.de pour recevoir les annonces par courriel. N.B. les mises à jour de babel n'y sont pas annoncées car babel fait partie du noyau LaTeX, pas des contributions... -- Daniel Flipo From - Fri Dec 8 10:04:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.5 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS, SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from reserv6.univ-lille1.fr (reserv6.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.20]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB893xDU041115 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 10:04:04 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from reserv2.univ-lille1.fr (root@reserv2.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.90]) by reserv6.univ-lille1.fr (8.13.7/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id kB893pl8025058 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 10:03:51 +0100 Received: from [192.168.134.100] ([192.168.134.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by reserv2.univ-lille1.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id kB893tnI012534 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 10:03:56 +0100 Message-ID: <45792A89.9090008@univ-lille1.fr> Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 10:04:09 +0100 From: Daniel Flipo User-Agent: Icedove 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Pb =?ISO-8859-1?Q?apr=E8s_mise_=E0_jour_french?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?b?= References: <000601c7195b$da2080b0$0201a8c0@AndrHETZEL> <1165560924.45790c5c79563@webmail.univ-poitiers.fr> In-Reply-To: <1165560924.45790c5c79563@webmail.univ-poitiers.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 10:04:04 +0100 (CET) X-Greylist: Sender DNS name whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (reserv6.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.20]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 10:03:51 +0100 (CET) X-USTL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-USTL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-USTL-MailScanner-From: daniel.flipo@univ-lille1.fr Chaigne Claude a écrit le 08.12.2006 07:55 : > J'ai voulu mettre à jour la version frenchb et j'ai peut-être joué à l'apprenti > sorcier. Je dessine mes figures avec jpicedt et j'utilise l'extension .tex pour > inclure les fichiers que j'obtiens. Si j'ai bien compris, j'utilise donc les > commandes du <> pstricks. Depuis l'installation de frenchb, Je > n'obtiens plus mes figures exceptés les textes (contenus dans la figure). Je > crois avoir fait de nombreux essais depuis plusieurs années en récupérant > frenchle, frenchpro, french puis frenchb: j'ai plutôt du mal à m'y retrouver. > Pourriez-vous m'aiguiller, s'il vous plait, sur une direction à prendre? > > Une en-tête de fichier qui permettait un bon fonctionement avant la mise à jour: > \documentclass{exam} > \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} > \usepackage[french]{babel} > \usepackage{color} > \usepackage[dvips]{graphicx} > \usepackage{pstricks} > \usepackage{listings} > \usepackage{lscape} > \usepackage{amsmath} > %\usepackage[frenchb]{babel} > %\usepackage{pstricks} Difficile de répondre sans un ECM (exemple complet minimal, avec son .log). À quoi fait appel \usepackage[french]{babel}, à frenchb, à frenchle ou à frenchpro ? il pourrait y avoir eu un changement à ce niveau si vous êtes passés de babel en version < 3.7j à babel actuel (3.8g). -- Daniel Flipo From - Fri Dec 8 10:11:32 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from reserv5.univ-lille1.fr (reserv5.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.19]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB89BNRl046892 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 10:11:28 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from reserv1.univ-lille1.fr (root@reserv1.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.15]) by reserv5.univ-lille1.fr (8.13.7/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id kB89BJSj032028 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 10:11:19 +0100 Received: from [192.168.134.100] ([192.168.134.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by reserv1.univ-lille1.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id kB89BNkp001508 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 10:11:24 +0100 Message-ID: <45792C49.30607@univ-lille1.fr> Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 10:11:37 +0100 From: Daniel Flipo User-Agent: Icedove 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] mise =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E0_jour_frenchb?= References: <000601c7195b$da2080b0$0201a8c0@AndrHETZEL> <45781453.9060606@univ-lille1.fr> <000b01c71a33$899f20f0$0201a8c0@AndrHETZEL> <457913F5.7060807@geo.hmg.inpg.fr> In-Reply-To: <457913F5.7060807@geo.hmg.inpg.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 10:11:28 +0100 (CET) X-Greylist: Sender DNS name whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (reserv5.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.19]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 10:11:19 +0100 (CET) X-USTL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-USTL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-USTL-MailScanner-From: daniel.flipo@univ-lille1.fr Bonjour, xavier roguiez a écrit le 08.12.2006 08:27 : > Je réagis un peu tard, mais je crois qu'il est préférable de modifier > votre installation dans les répertoires personnels, ceux du type > c:\texmf-local\tex\generic\babel où vous retrouverez la même > arborescence. Comme çà vous si vous devez réinstaller la même version > vous conservez la trace des modifications que vous avez faites. C'est, > sauf erreur, le répertoire qui est regardé en premier (a voir dans vos > fichiers de configuration) Ça se discute ;-) l'inconvénient de mettre des mises à jour en « local » est qu'elles masqueront ensuite les mises à jour officielles (éventuellement plus récentes) qui seront faites dans l'arborescence standard. Il faudra penser à les supprimer dans texmf-local... Personnellement, je préfère mettre les mises à jour dans l'arborescence standard (par ex. remplacer l'ancienne version de frenchb.ldf par la nouvelle) quitte à sauvegarder l'ancienne en frenchb-orig.ldf par exemple. -- Daniel Flipo From - Fri Dec 8 11:24:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.4 required=5.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2-g19.free.fr (smtp2-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.28]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB8AOiOw006369 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 11:24:49 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [82.65.29.117] (lns-bzn-53-82-65-29-117.adsl.proxad.net [82.65.29.117]) by smtp2-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEEC37CFC for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 11:24:43 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45793D64.9050001@ac-lille.fr> Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 11:24:36 +0100 From: Cauwet Christophe User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060921) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Liste Gut Subject: De Fig. =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E0_Doc=2E?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Milter-DNSRBL: GOOD relayIP match 127.0.0.3 (blacklisted) for 82.65.29.117 in combined.njabl.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 11:24:49 +0100 (CET) Bonjour, Je cherche à modifier l'intitulé de mes figures "Fig.x" en "Doc.x" et je ne trouve pas encore mon bonheur. J'ai eu espoir avec \unnumberedcaption mais çà n'a pas marché et je n'ai pas beaucoup le temps de fouiller en ce moment Existe-t-il une solution simple ? D'avance merci Christophe From - Fri Dec 8 11:58:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from relay-bv.club-internet.fr (relay-bv.club-internet.fr [194.158.96.102]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB8AwTfI034103 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 11:58:35 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [192.168.1.2] (cha92-1-89-80-250-83.dsl.club-internet.fr [89.80.250.83]) by relay-bv.club-internet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE24025621 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 11:58:28 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <45793D64.9050001@ac-lille.fr> References: <45793D64.9050001@ac-lille.fr> Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 11:58:27 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr From: Bernard Gaulle Subject: Re: [gut] De Fig. =?iso-8859-1?Q?=E0_Doc=2E?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 11:58:35 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kB8AwTfI034103 Cauwet Christophe a demandé : >Je cherche à modifier l'intitulé de mes figures >"Fig.x" en "Doc.x" et je ne trouve pas encore >mon bonheur. > >J'ai eu espoir avec \unnumberedcaption mais çà n'a pas marché vous faites référence à \unnumberedcaptions de FrenchPro ou autre chose ? S'il s'agit de FrenchPro comme de frenchle, le principe est tout simplement de redéfinir \figurename avec un contenu différent de "Fig.". >Existe-t-il une solution simple ? le mieux est tjrs de fournir un ECM. en cas de pb, après avoir feuilleté les FAQs. --bg From - Fri Dec 8 12:01:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr (smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr [193.252.23.120] (may be forged)) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB8B18a6036474 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 12:01:08 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0114.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 083F17000087 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 12:01:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (ALille-257-1-33-124.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.204.68.124]) by mwinf0114.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D1B6B7000085 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 12:01:07 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061208110107859.D1B6B7000085@mwinf0114.orange.fr X-ME-User-Auth: dbitouze Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 12:01:26 +0100 From: Denis =?ISO-8859-1?B?Qml0b3V66Q==?= To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] De Fig. =?ISO-8859-1?B?4A==?= Doc. Message-ID: <20061208120126.65d4880d@localhost> In-Reply-To: <45793D64.9050001@ac-lille.fr> References: <45793D64.9050001@ac-lille.fr> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.3; i586-mandriva-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 12:01:08 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kB8B18a6036474 Le Fri, 08 Dec 2006 11:24:36 +0100 Cauwet Christophe a écrit : > Existe-t-il une solution simple ? http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=fixnam ou http://www.grappa.univ-lille3.fr/FAQ-LaTeX/29.52.html -- Denis From - Fri Dec 8 12:08:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.176]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB8B8cat042638 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 12:08:44 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from mac.com (smtpin05-en2 [10.13.10.150]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout06/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id kB8B8bAf019611 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 03:08:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (har64-1-82-243-177-94.fbx.proxad.net [82.243.177.94]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin05/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id kB8B8WeR026048 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 03:08:34 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) To: GUTenberg Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-437884611 From: Yves Akakpo Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Beamer_et_les_fl=E8ches__=28ECM=29?= Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 12:09:21 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 12:08:45 +0100 (CET) --Apple-Mail-5-437884611 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Bonjour J'essaye d'utiliser beamer pour une pr=E9sentation. Je ne parviens pas=20= =20 =E0 visualiser des fl=E8ches avec pdflatex. Voici l'ECM et son log.=20=20 J'utilise LaTeX(installer depuis le site de Gerben W) sur macosx et=20=20 TeXShop --Apple-Mail-5-437884611 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: application/octet-stream; x-mac-type=54455854; x-unix-mode=0644; x-mac-creator=54655873; x-mac-hide-extension=yes; name=initiation-ECM-beamer.tex Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=initiation-ECM-beamer.tex \documentclass[ 12pt, % compress, ucs,=20 square, % draft, % pour acc=8El=8Erer la compilation % t, % flush vertical % c, % flush central ]{beamer} %\documentclass[10pt,handout]{beamer}% pour la version imprim=8Ee %\documentclass[12pt,trans]{beamer}% pour la version transparent=20 \hypersetup{colorlinks,% pour la forme =8Ecran citecolor=3Dgreen,% filecolor=3Dmagenta,% linkcolor=3Dred,% urlcolor=3Dcyan,% }=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20 %\hypersetup{colorlinks,% pour la forme imprim=8Ee % citecolor=3Dblack,% % filecolor=3D black,% % linkcolor=3D black,% % urlcolor=3D black,% % }=20=20 %\hypersetup{colorlinks=3Dfalse}% pas de couleur de lien \usepackage[applemac]{inputenc} \usepackage[frenchb]{babel} \usepackage{aeguill} \usepackage{fourier} \usepackage{amsthm} %\usepackage[all]{xy} % positionnement mais obsol=8Fte \usepackage{palatino} \usepackage{marvosym} % pour l'euro %\usepackage%[authoryear, round] %{daedale}%% biblio %\usepackage[textstyle]{SIunits} % unit=8Es internationales bien =8Ecrites = attention, il n'aime pas la commande square \usepackage{enumerate} \usepackage{pgf,pgfarrows,pgfnodes, pgfpages} \usepackage{multimedia}=20=20=20 %\usepackage{listings} %\usepackage{msc} %\usepackage{deluxetable} %\usepackage{enumerate}% beamerarticle %\usepackage{colortbl}% beamerarticle %\usepackage{hyperref} % beamerarticle %\usepackage{pgfpages}% inclure une page .pdf en background \usepackage{xcolor} %\usepackage{textpos} % Poser un \'el\'ement exactement \usepackage{pdfpages} % pour les pdf hors frame=20 %\usepackage{url} % ----------------------- Sorties papier ------------------------- %\mode{\setbeamercolor{background canvas}{bg=3Dblack!5}} % pour de= belles sorties papier avec un fond gris clair %\pgfpagelayaout{resize}[a4paper, border shrink=3D5mm, landscape] % %profit= er pour imprimer de fa=8Don correcte les diapos %\pgfpagelayaout{2 on 1}[a4paper, border shrink=3D5mm] % mettre 2=20 %diapos par page pour imprimer de facon correcte les diapos %\usepackage{color} % article seumlement %%------------------- Agr\'ementer un peu ----------------------- %\usetheme{Warsaw} %\usetheme{Berlin} %\usecolortheme{seahorse} % pour voir %\usecolortheme{reose} % selon lhumeur %\usefonttheme[onlylarge]{structuresmallcapsserif}=20 % un peu de polices %\usefonttheme[onlysmall]{structurebold} % mieux pour la barre de navigation %\setbeamerfont{title{shape=3D\itshape,family=3Drmfamily}}=20 % changer les polices des titre en quelque chose de plus fin %\setbeamercolor{title}{fg=3Dred!80!black,bg=3Dred!20!white} % un peu de couleur pour le fond et ... %\usepackage{beamerthemesplit} %\usepackage{beamerthemeshadow} \usepackage[dark,tab]{beamerthemesidebar} %\usepackage{beamerthemesidebardark}% %\usepackage{beamerthemesidebardark-tab} %\usepackage{beamerthemetree} %\usepackage{beamerthemetreebars} %\usepackage{beamerthemelined} %\usepackage{beamerthemeclassic} %%----------------- %un peu de couleur et transitions %------------------ \definecolor{rltred}{rgb}{0.75,0,0} \definecolor{rltgreen}{rgb}{0,0.5,0} \definecolor{oneblue}{rgb}{0,0,0.75} \definecolor{marron}{rgb}{0.64,0.16,0.16} \definecolor{forestgreen}{rgb}{0.13,0.54,0.13} \definecolor{purple}{rgb}{0.62,0.12,0.94} \definecolor{dockerblue}{rgb}{0.11,0.56,0.98} \definecolor{freeblue}{rgb}{0.25,0.41,0.88} \definecolor{myblue}{rgb}{0,0.2,0.4} \definecolor{mybluec}{rgb}{0,65,0,76,0,98} \definecolor{gris}{rgb}{0.705,0.705,0.768} %\beamersetaveragebackground{mybluec} %\beamertemplatetransparentcovered %\beamertemplatetransparentcoveredmedium %\beamertemplatetransparentcoveredhigh \beamertemplatetransparentcovereddynamic %\beamertemplatetransparentcovereddynamicmedium %\beamersetuncovermixins {\opaqueness<1->{15}}{\opaqueness<1->{15}} %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % -----------------------Titre et auteurs ----------------------- \title{Premi\`ere d\'ecouverte de \LaTeX} \subtitle{ Pourquoi se lancer dans \LaTeX{} ? } \author{ %\href{mailto:yves1@mac.com}=20 %D\textsuperscript{r}=20 M. Yves Akakpo } \institute{ Association Euskalug\\ Utilisateurs des logiciels libres du pays basque} \date{\today} \subject{ Les caract\'eristiques de \LaTeX} %% ----------------- D=8Efinitions de raccourcis ------------------- % %\newcommand{\bgf}{\begin{frame}} %\newcommand{\edf}{\end{frame}} %\newcommand{\frt}{\frametitle} %% ------------------------- Logo ------------------------ %\pgfdeclareimage[heihgt=3D0.1cm]{logo}{logodep1} %\logo{\pgfuseimage{logo}} %% ou encore %\logo %{% %\insertframenumber/ %\inserttotalframenumber=20 %\includegraphics% %[heihgt=3D0.3cm]{logodep1} %} %\logo{\includegraphics[height=3D0.5cm]{logodep1.pdf}} %\usebeamertemplate*{logo} %% --------------------- D=8Ebut du document --------------------- \begin{document} %% ----------------- o=9D sont les images ---------------------- \graphicspath{{/Volumes/w/SAU2004-05/graphiques/}} %%-------------------- un truc ----------------------- \setbeamertemplate{itemize item}[square] %\includeonlyframes{curent}% pour n'avoir que le simple %\includeonlyframes{liste de diapo}% pour n'avoir que les importants %%------ Page de titre de la pr=8Esentation ----------------- \frame{\titlepage} %% ------- Page de la table des mati=8Fres -------------------- %% --------------------- autre argument ----------------------- %% Effacer ceci ou commenter le si vous voulez que la table des mati=8Fres = apparaissent au d=8Ebut %% de chaque subsection :=20 % %\AtBeginSubsection[] %{ % \begin{frame} % \frametitle{R\'esum\'e} % \tableofcontents[currentsection,currentsubsection] % \end{frame} %} % %% If you wish to uncover everything in a step-wise fashion, uncomment %% the following command:=20 %\beamerdefaultoverlayspecification{<+->} \section*{Sommaire} \AtBeginSection { \frame%[allowframebreaks]% quand cela d=8Eborde { \frametitle{Sommaire} \tableofcontents[current] %% ou %[pausesections] } } %\section*{Sommaire} %\begin{frame} %\frametitle{R\'esum\'e} %\tableofcontents%[pausesections] %\end{frame} %\begin{frame}[t]% pour des flashs verticaux %\titlepage{R\'esum\'e} %\end{frame} \section {\LaTeX{} comment \c{c}a marche ?} \subsection{Cycle de production} \frame {\frametitle{Proc\'ed\'e de fabrication} \begin{itemize}[<+-| alert@+>] \item \'Edition $\Longleftrightarrow$ fichier-source.tex ; \begin{itemize}[<+-| alert@+>] \item Notepad, Kedit, Vi, Emacs ; \item TeXmaker, Kile, Technicenter, TeXShop. \end{itemize} \item Compilation; \begin{itemize}[<+-| alert@+>] \item latex $\Rightarrow$ fichier.dvi; \item pdflatex $ \Rightarrow$ fichier.pdf. \end{itemize} \item Visualisation \begin{itemize}[<+-| alert@+>] \item =8Ecran; \item imprimante, traceur . \end{itemize} \item il n'est pas WYSWYG \end{itemize} } \frame { \LARGE {Merci pour votre attention}} \begin{frame} \end{frame} % pour renforcer l'entr\'ee dans la table des mati\`eres, il est indispensa= ble de de finir par un frame vide qui sera ult=8Erieurement effac=8E. \end{document} --Apple-Mail-5-437884611 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: application/octet-stream; x-unix-mode=0644; name=initiation-ECM-beamer.log Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=initiation-ECM-beamer.log This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.30.4-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5) (format=pdflatex 2006.10.4) 8 DEC 2006 11:58 entering extended mode \write18 enabled. **initiation-ECM-beamer.tex (./initiation-ECM-beamer.tex LaTeX2e <2005/12/01> Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman, d utch, italian, norsk, portuges, spanish, swedish, nohyphenation, loaded. 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Yves --Apple-Mail-5-437884611-- From - Fri Dec 8 12:40:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from relay-ev.club-internet.fr (relay-ev.club-internet.fr [194.158.96.209]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB8BeDZp067232 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 12:40:18 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from magellan (di275-1-87-91-253-47.dsl.club-internet.fr [87.91.253.47]) by relay-ev.club-internet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 865D225601 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 12:40:13 +0100 (CET) Received: by magellan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1546CA564; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 12:40:53 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 12:40:53 +0100 From: Philippe Delavalade To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Deux points =?iso-8859-1?Q?=E0?= la ligne Message-ID: <20061208114053.GA5678@club-internet.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 12:40:18 +0100 (CET) Bonjour. Si on veux obenir quelque chose du genre « deux poins à la ligne » sans un saut de page intempestif, est-il possible d'éviter après les « deux points », de taper \nopagebreak ? C'est ce que je fais depuis des années mais ça m'énerve un peu et je voulais savoir si on pouvait automatiser le truc. Merci d'un conseil. Philippe Delavalade From - Fri Dec 8 13:08:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from clipper.ens.fr (clipper-gw.ens.fr [129.199.1.22]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB8C8Y1k089416 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 13:08:34 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from (noirel@localhost) by clipper.ens.fr (8.13.1/jb-1.1) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 13:08:33 +0100 From: Josselin Noirel To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Deux points =?iso-8859-1?B?4CBs?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?a?= ligne Message-ID: <20061208120833.GA6861@clipper.ens.fr> References: <20061208114053.GA5678@club-internet.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20061208114053.GA5678@club-internet.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 13:08:34 +0100 (CET) On Fri, Dec 08, 2006 at 12:40:53PM +0100, Philippe Delavalade wrote: > Si on veux obenir quelque chose du genre > « deux poins à la ligne » sans un saut de page intempestif, est-il possible > d'éviter après les « deux points », de taper \nopagebreak ? Ça dépend de comment vous allez à la ligne. (Sachant que si votre réponse est « avec \\ », je jette l'éponge.) -- Joss From - Fri Dec 8 13:27:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.0 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,SPF_PASS, SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from relay-bm.club-internet.fr (relay-bm.club-internet.fr [194.158.104.68]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB8CRfNY003392 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 13:27:46 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from magellan (di275-1-87-91-253-47.dsl.club-internet.fr [87.91.253.47]) by relay-bm.club-internet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E9025627 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 13:27:41 +0100 (CET) Received: by magellan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 93012A564; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 13:28:20 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 13:28:20 +0100 From: Philippe Delavalade To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Deux points =?iso-8859-1?B?4CBs?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?a?= ligne Message-ID: <20061208122820.GA5751@club-internet.fr> References: <20061208114053.GA5678@club-internet.fr> <20061208120833.GA6861@clipper.ens.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20061208120833.GA6861@clipper.ens.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 13:27:46 +0100 (CET) Le vendredi 08 décembre à 13:08, Josselin Noirel a écrit : > On Fri, Dec 08, 2006 at 12:40:53PM +0100, Philippe Delavalade wrote: > > Si on veux obenir quelque chose du genre > > « deux poins à la ligne » sans un saut de page intempestif, est-il possible > > d'éviter après les « deux points », de taper \nopagebreak ? > > Ça dépend de comment vous allez à la ligne. (Sachant que si votre > réponse est « avec \\ », je jette l'éponge.) Non, rassurez-vous, simplement avec deux (une ligne vide quoi). Philippe Delavalade From - Fri Dec 8 13:40:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from clipper.ens.fr (clipper-gw.ens.fr [129.199.1.22]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB8Cdwlp012735 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 13:39:58 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from (noirel@localhost) by clipper.ens.fr (8.13.1/jb-1.1) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 13:39:58 +0100 From: Josselin Noirel To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Deux points =?iso-8859-1?B?4CBs?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?a?= ligne Message-ID: <20061208123958.GA12901@clipper.ens.fr> References: <20061208114053.GA5678@club-internet.fr> <20061208120833.GA6861@clipper.ens.fr> <20061208122820.GA5751@club-internet.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20061208122820.GA5751@club-internet.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 13:39:58 +0100 (CET) On Fri, Dec 08, 2006 at 01:28:20PM +0100, Philippe Delavalade wrote: > Non, rassurez-vous, simplement avec deux (une ligne vide quoi). Mais alors vous commencez un nouveau paragraphe ! J'aurais imaginé qu'un deux-points-à-la-ligne fût communément suivi d'une énumération auquel cas, le problème deviendrait : comment empêcher une coupure de page avant un environnement enumerate, itemize ou description. -- Joss From - Fri Dec 8 14:00:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.0 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,SPF_PASS, SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from relay-bv.club-internet.fr (relay-bv.club-internet.fr [194.158.96.102]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB8D0JoA026963 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 14:00:24 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from magellan (di275-1-87-91-253-47.dsl.club-internet.fr [87.91.253.47]) by relay-bv.club-internet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 184492560B for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 14:00:19 +0100 (CET) Received: by magellan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 915DDA564; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 14:00:58 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 14:00:58 +0100 From: Philippe Delavalade To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Deux points =?iso-8859-1?B?4CBs?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?a?= ligne Message-ID: <20061208130058.GA5828@club-internet.fr> References: <20061208114053.GA5678@club-internet.fr> <20061208120833.GA6861@clipper.ens.fr> <20061208122820.GA5751@club-internet.fr> <20061208123958.GA12901@clipper.ens.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20061208123958.GA12901@clipper.ens.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:00:24 +0100 (CET) Le vendredi 08 décembre à 13:39, Josselin Noirel a écrit : > Mais alors vous commencez un nouveau paragraphe ! J'aurais imaginé > qu'un deux-points-à-la-ligne fût communément suivi d'une énumération > auquel cas, le problème deviendrait : comment empêcher une coupure de > page avant un environnement enumerate, itemize ou description. Ce n'est pas non plus un problème de paragraphe mais le plus simple est de donner un exemple de ce que je fais et dans quel cas : \documentclass{article} \begin{document} On veut résoudre l'équation : \nopage break \begin{gather*} équation \\ suite \\ ... \end{gather*} \end{document} Et je voudrais « customizer » ce \nopagebreak, si possible, car quand c'est à faire cinquante fois, c'est vraiment lassat ! Philippe Delavalade From - Fri Dec 8 14:17:31 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from gobemouche.passereaux.jmsp.net (gobemouche.passereaux.jmsp.net [212.23.162.43]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB8DHLM8038281 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 14:17:26 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from relternet-03.csac.melanie2.i2 (unknown [10.167.126.115]) by gobemouche.passereaux.jmsp.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56111DC71 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 14:17:16 +0100 (CET) X-decod-Pamela: v0.4.12; le 08/12/2006 14:17:13; + mdf=0; lda=1; ea=1; eab=0; fdv=0; + from original: Siegfried.Maiolino@equipement.gouv.fr Message-ID: <534D0033BBD10F4D917CF5856BD739C301A799A3@ct69-mel-bron.cete-lyon.i2> From: =?UTF-8?Q?=22MAIOLINO_Siegfried_=2D_CETE_Lyon=2FLRL=2FM=C3=A9canique_d?= =?UTF-8?Q?es_Roches=22?= To: gut@ens.fr Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE=3A_=5Bgut=5D_Deux_points_=E0_la_ligne?= Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 14:17:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Virus-Scanned: Scan at equipement.gouv.fr X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:17:27 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kB8DHLM8038281 Bonjour, Je pense que le mieux ce serait dans ce cas soit de faire une nouvelle command: \newcommand{\dpl}{:\nopage break} Soit un nouvel environnement dont les paramètres de début sont : \newenvironment{dpgather}{:\nopage break\begin{gather}} {\end{gather}} Par contre je ne sais pas s'il est possible de faire un template pour toutes les types d'environnement, du style \newcommand{\dpenviro}[1] {\newenvironment{dpgather}{:\nopage break\begin{#1}} {\end{#1}}} et après vous pouvez définir autant de dpENVIRONNEMENT que vous voulez -----Message d'origine----- De : Philippe Delavalade [mailto:philippe.delavalade@club-internet.fr] Envoyé : ven. 8 décembre 2006 14:01 À : gut@ens.fr Objet : Re: [gut] Deux points à la ligne Le vendredi 08 décembre à 13:39, Josselin Noirel a écrit : > Mais alors vous commencez un nouveau paragraphe ! J'aurais imaginé > qu'un deux-points-à-la-ligne fût communément suivi d'une énumération > auquel cas, le problème deviendrait : comment empêcher une coupure de > page avant un environnement enumerate, itemize ou description. Ce n'est pas non plus un problème de paragraphe mais le plus simple est de donner un exemple de ce que je fais et dans quel cas : \documentclass{article} \begin{document} On veut résoudre l'équation : \nopage break \begin{gather*} équation \\ suite \\ ... \end{gather*} \end{document} Et je voudrais « customizer » ce \nopagebreak, si possible, car quand c'est à faire cinquante fois, c'est vraiment lassat ! Philippe Delavalade From - Fri Dec 8 14:27:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp8.orange.fr (smtp8.orange.fr [193.252.22.23]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB8DR2L4045276 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 14:27:03 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [192.168.1.11] (ABayonne-152-1-47-102.w83-193.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.193.221.102]) by mwinf0808.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8AF551C0024D for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 14:27:02 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061208132702569.8AF551C0024D@mwinf0808.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0134A154-0A7F-4645-9AC0-2E4F82FD854D@wanadoo.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Denis_Verg=E8s?= Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_Beamer_et_les_fl=E8ches__=28ECM=29?= Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 14:27:00 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Milter-DNSRBL: GOOD relayIP match 127.0.0.3 (blacklisted) for 83.193.221.102 in combined.njabl.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:27:03 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kB8DR2L4045276 Bonjour, Que veux dire exactement : « Je ne peux visualiser les flèches ». Pour ma part avec la même configuration, j'obtiens une sortie .pdf correcte. D'autre part, en osant m'avancer, dans quel cadre cette présentation s'inscrit-elle ? Allant souvent au Pays basque puisque voisin, j'aimerais savoir quand a lieu cette présentation. Cordialement. Denis Vergès Le 8 déc. 06 à 12:09, Yves Akakpo a écrit : > From - Fri Dec 8 14:29:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from clipper.ens.fr (clipper-gw.ens.fr [129.199.1.22]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB8DSupq046746 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 14:28:56 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from (noirel@localhost) by clipper.ens.fr (8.13.1/jb-1.1) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 14:28:56 +0100 From: Josselin Noirel To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Deux points =?iso-8859-1?B?4CBs?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?a?= ligne Message-ID: <20061208132856.GA13515@clipper.ens.fr> References: <20061208114053.GA5678@club-internet.fr> <20061208120833.GA6861@clipper.ens.fr> <20061208122820.GA5751@club-internet.fr> <20061208123958.GA12901@clipper.ens.fr> <20061208130058.GA5828@club-internet.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20061208130058.GA5828@club-internet.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:28:56 +0100 (CET) On Fri, Dec 08, 2006 at 02:00:58PM +0100, Philippe Delavalade wrote: > Ce n'est pas non plus un problème de paragraphe mais le plus simple est de > donner un exemple de ce que je fais et dans quel cas : > > \documentclass{article} > \begin{document} > > On veut résoudre l'équation : > \nopage break Ce n'est pas une ligne blanche, contrairement à ce que vous indiquiez. > \begin{gather*} > équation \\ > suite \\ > ... > \end{gather*} > \end{document} > > Et je voudrais « customizer » ce \nopagebreak, si possible, car quand c'est à > faire cinquante fois, c'est vraiment lassat ! Qui vous a dit qu'il fallût le faire ne serait-ce qu'une seule fois. Avant une équation une pénalité de coupure est insérée (son doux nom est \predisplaypenalty). Par défaut elle vaut 10000 ce qui est, pour TeX, l'infini. Avez-vous jamais vu un quelconque environnement gather ou autre amsmath-erie passer à la page suivante ? Si oui, le problème est là, non dans l'automatisation du \nopagebreak. -- Joss From - Fri Dec 8 14:41:39 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.0 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,SPF_PASS, SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from relay-bv.club-internet.fr (relay-bv.club-internet.fr [194.158.96.102]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB8DfQNw055983 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 14:41:31 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from magellan (di275-1-87-91-253-47.dsl.club-internet.fr [87.91.253.47]) by relay-bv.club-internet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480A125636 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 14:41:26 +0100 (CET) Received: by magellan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BBF04A564; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 14:42:05 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 14:42:05 +0100 From: Philippe Delavalade To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Deux points =?iso-8859-1?B?4CBs?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?a?= ligne Message-ID: <20061208134205.GA5977@club-internet.fr> References: <20061208114053.GA5678@club-internet.fr> <20061208120833.GA6861@clipper.ens.fr> <20061208122820.GA5751@club-internet.fr> <20061208123958.GA12901@clipper.ens.fr> <20061208130058.GA5828@club-internet.fr> <20061208132856.GA13515@clipper.ens.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20061208132856.GA13515@clipper.ens.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:41:31 +0100 (CET) Le vendredi 08 décembre à 14:28, Josselin Noirel a écrit : > On Fri, Dec 08, 2006 at 02:00:58PM +0100, Philippe Delavalade wrote: > > Ce n'est pas non plus un problème de paragraphe mais le plus simple est de > > donner un exemple de ce que je fais et dans quel cas : > > > > \documentclass{article} > > \begin{document} > > > > On veut résoudre l'équation : > > \nopage break > > Ce n'est pas une ligne blanche, contrairement à ce que vous indiquiez. Oui et non ! Si je mets une ligne vide aulieu du \nopagebreak, j'ai, parfois, des sauts de page non désirés. > > > \begin{gather*} > > équation \\ > > suite \\ > > ... > > \end{gather*} > > \end{document} > > > > Et je voudrais « customizer » ce \nopagebreak, si possible, car quand c'est à > > faire cinquante fois, c'est vraiment lassat ! > > Qui vous a dit qu'il fallût le faire ne serait-ce qu'une seule fois. > Avant une équation une pénalité de coupure est insérée (son doux nom est > \predisplaypenalty). Par défaut elle vaut 10000 ce qui est, pour TeX, > l'infini. Avez-vous jamais vu un quelconque environnement gather ou > autre amsmath-erie passer à la page suivante ? Si oui, le problème est > là, non dans l'automatisation du \nopagebreak. Le problème est que j'ai donné un exemple avec \gather mais ç'aurait pu être \[ \begin{array}{}{rcccl} \end{array} \] ou un tabvar ou ... Philippe Delavalade From - Fri Dec 8 14:59:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from clipper.ens.fr (clipper-gw.ens.fr [129.199.1.22]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB8DxGFx069836 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 14:59:16 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from (noirel@localhost) by clipper.ens.fr (8.13.1/jb-1.1) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 14:59:16 +0100 From: Josselin Noirel To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Deux points =?iso-8859-1?B?4CBs?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?a?= ligne Message-ID: <20061208135916.GB13515@clipper.ens.fr> References: <20061208114053.GA5678@club-internet.fr> <20061208120833.GA6861@clipper.ens.fr> <20061208122820.GA5751@club-internet.fr> <20061208123958.GA12901@clipper.ens.fr> <20061208130058.GA5828@club-internet.fr> <20061208132856.GA13515@clipper.ens.fr> <20061208134205.GA5977@club-internet.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20061208134205.GA5977@club-internet.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:59:16 +0100 (CET) On Fri, Dec 08, 2006 at 02:42:05PM +0100, Philippe Delavalade wrote: > Oui et non ! > Si je mets une ligne vide aulieu du \nopagebreak, j'ai, parfois, des sauts > de page non désirés. Il ne faut pas mettre de ligne vide dans ce cas. > Le problème est que j'ai donné un exemple avec \gather mais ç'aurait pu > être > > \[ > \begin{array}{}{rcccl} > \end{array} > \] Ditto. > ou un tabvar ou ... Pour ça, je ne sais pas. -- Joss From - Fri Dec 8 14:59:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB8DxWKU070118 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 14:59:38 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p48so1069896nfa for ; Fri, 08 Dec 2006 05:59:32 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=aydEVhWhi3PgvqOhuBPFmf2Ocs148sdPLyawQ18xlEzRDfHPgyYn29TtgbO/fofY5wckyFLVcljALFrZr3fcwJA1VfnILZzUyS1T9shIh4nOyLEUzkFSC4j6g2Qka9NV9kru73n+cj45cnUJSuNb6oxy85xTRJ7sYrMvmUmsJ4s= Received: by 10.49.41.3 with SMTP id t3mr5507436nfj.1165586372742; Fri, 08 Dec 2006 05:59:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [90.2.138.124]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id i1sm10133764nfe.2006.12.08.05.59.32; Fri, 08 Dec 2006 05:59:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45796FC3.6070009@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:59:31 +0100 From: Sebastien Gautrin User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060922) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Deux points =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E0_la_ligne?= References: <20061208114053.GA5678@club-internet.fr> <20061208120833.GA6861@clipper.ens.fr> <20061208122820.GA5751@club-internet.fr> <20061208123958.GA12901@clipper.ens.fr> <20061208130058.GA5828@club-internet.fr> <20061208132856.GA13515@clipper.ens.fr> <20061208134205.GA5977@club-internet.fr> In-Reply-To: <20061208134205.GA5977@club-internet.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:59:38 +0100 (CET) Philippe Delavalade wrote: > Le vendredi 08 décembre à 14:28, Josselin Noirel a écrit : > >> On Fri, Dec 08, 2006 at 02:00:58PM +0100, Philippe Delavalade wrote: >> >>> Ce n'est pas non plus un problème de paragraphe mais le plus simple est de >>> donner un exemple de ce que je fais et dans quel cas : >>> >>> \documentclass{article} >>> \begin{document} >>> >>> On veut résoudre l'équation : >>> \nopage break >>> >> Ce n'est pas une ligne blanche, contrairement à ce que vous indiquiez. >> > > Oui et non ! > Si je mets une ligne vide aulieu du \nopagebreak, j'ai, parfois, des sauts > de page non désirés. > Mais normalement si vous ne mettez pas de ligne blanche ni de \nopagebreak, il n'y aura pas non plus de sauts intempestifs. Cela donnerait donc comme suit : \documentclass{article} \begin{document} On veut résoudre l'équation : \begin{gather*} équation \\ suite \\ ... \end{gather*} \end{document} From - Fri Dec 8 15:57:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.178]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB8Eulol017585 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 15:56:55 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from mac.com (smtpin05-en2 [10.13.10.150]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout08/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id kB8EuleG005385 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 06:56:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (har64-1-82-243-177-94.fbx.proxad.net [82.243.177.94]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin05/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id kB8Euh6p025976 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 06:56:44 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <0134A154-0A7F-4645-9AC0-2E4F82FD854D@wanadoo.fr> References: <0134A154-0A7F-4645-9AC0-2E4F82FD854D@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-21-451575118 Message-Id: <46C25E76-1CF9-41E8-9DCA-E48DB10BB401@mac.com> From: Yves Akakpo Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_Beamer_et_les_fl=E8ches__=28ECM=29?= Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 15:57:32 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 15:56:56 +0100 (CET) --Apple-Mail-21-451575118 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Le 8 d=E9c. 06 =E0 14:27, Denis Verg=E8s a =E9crit : > Bonjour, > Que veux dire exactement : =AB Je ne peux visualiser les fl=E8ches =BB. > > Voici une capture de l'=E9cran --Apple-Mail-21-451575118 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Je ne sais pas=20= =20 o=F9 se trouve l'erreur en regardant dans le log (celui envoy=E9=20=20 pr=E9c=E9demment). > Pour ma part avec la m=EAme configuration, j'obtiens une sortie .pdf=20= =20 > correcte. > D'autre part, en osant m'avancer, dans quel cadre cette=20=20 > pr=E9sentation s'inscrit-elle ? Allant souvent au Pays basque=20=20 > puisque voisin, j'aimerais savoir quand a lieu cette pr=E9sentation. > > Dans le cadre d=E9couverte de LaTeX. Je suis au pays basque et d=E9butant= =20=20 LaTeX. Mais il y a des membres de l'association euskalug que j'ai=20=20 r=E9ussi =E0 convaincre du bien fond=E9 de la d=E9couverte de LaTeX, J'ai= =20=20=20 fabriqu=E9 donc une pr=E9sentation avec beamer. Le r=E9sultat est plus=20= =20 que douteux comme vous voyez. Les prochaines dates sont le dimanche 10 d=E9cembre et le samedi 16=20=20 d=E9cembre 2006. Il y aura chaque fois six =E0 huit personnes. Il n'y a=20= =20 que des d=E9butants qui ont juste eu une s=E9ance de une heure. Si vous =EAtes dans la r=E9gion et disponible, je suis s=FBr que vous nous= =20=20 serez d'une aide extraordinaire. Cordialement. Yves Akakpo --Apple-Mail-21-451575118-- From - Fri Dec 8 16:42:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB8FgIwq052816 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 16:42:19 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from monaco.spim.jussieu.fr (monaco.spim.jussieu.fr [134.157.234.5]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.13.7/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id kB8FfxvL033579 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 16:42:15 +0100 (CET) X-Ids: 166 Received: from [134.157.234.100] ([134.157.234.100]) by monaco.spim.jussieu.fr with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 8 Dec 2006 16:42:22 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <46C25E76-1CF9-41E8-9DCA-E48DB10BB401@mac.com> References: <0134A154-0A7F-4645-9AC0-2E4F82FD854D@wanadoo.fr> <46C25E76-1CF9-41E8-9DCA-E48DB10BB401@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <22822016-7687-4684-AB73-C97399CE4545@spim.jussieu.fr> From: Jean Charlet Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_Beamer_et_les_fl=E8ches__=28ECM=29?= Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 16:48:09 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Dec 2006 15:42:22.0820 (UTC) FILETIME=[73EBA240:01C71ADF] X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 16:42:19 +0100 (CET) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.166]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 16:42:15 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.5/2307/Fri Dec 8 14:50:05 2006 on shiva.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Miltered: at shiva.jussieu.fr with ID 457987C7.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http://j-chkmail.ensmp.fr)! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kB8FgIwq052816 Le 8 déc. 06 à 15:57, Yves Akakpo a écrit : > > Le 8 déc. 06 à 14:27, Denis Vergès a écrit : > > >> Bonjour, >> Que veux dire exactement : « Je ne peux visualiser les flèches ». >> >> > > Voici une capture de l'écran > > > Il n'y a pas de flèches correspondantes aux commandes. Je ne sais > pas où se trouve l'erreur en regardant dans le log (celui envoyé > précédemment). Chez moi, ça se compile normalement et il n'y a pas de flèche non plus. Si je mets \rightarrow à la place, j'ai une flèche à un trait. Si je mets \uparrow (pour voir), ça marche aussi. Donc, c'est bien \Rightarrow qui est en cause. Je ne sais pas si ça aide... ,,,, (o-o) --------oOO-(_)-OOo------------------------------------------o0O-OOo---- Jean Charlet URL : http://estime.spim.jussieu.fr/~jc INSERM UMR_S729 Mél : Jean.Charlet@spim.jussieu.fr 15, rue de l'École de Médecine Tél : +33/0 1 53 10 92 10 75006 Paris, France Mission de recherche en sciences et technologies de l'information en médecine : DSI, Assistance publique - Hôpitaux de Paris INSERM UMR_S 729, Centre des Cordeliers, Univ. Paris V/VI ----------o0O-OOo------------------------------------------oOO-( )-OOo-- (o-o) ```` From - Fri Dec 8 16:42:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.0 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,SPF_PASS, SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from relay-am.club-internet.fr (relay-am.club-internet.fr [194.158.104.67]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB8FghDR053096 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 16:42:48 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from magellan (di275-1-87-91-253-47.dsl.club-internet.fr [87.91.253.47]) by relay-am.club-internet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C3A92560D for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 16:42:43 +0100 (CET) Received: by magellan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0EB7EA564; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 16:43:23 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 16:43:23 +0100 From: Philippe Delavalade To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Deux points =?iso-8859-1?B?4CBs?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?a?= ligne Message-ID: <20061208154323.GA6267@club-internet.fr> References: <20061208114053.GA5678@club-internet.fr> <20061208120833.GA6861@clipper.ens.fr> <20061208122820.GA5751@club-internet.fr> <20061208123958.GA12901@clipper.ens.fr> <20061208130058.GA5828@club-internet.fr> <20061208132856.GA13515@clipper.ens.fr> <20061208134205.GA5977@club-internet.fr> <20061208135916.GB13515@clipper.ens.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20061208135916.GB13515@clipper.ens.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 16:42:49 +0100 (CET) Merci à tous. Mon idée de ligne blanche (que je pratique depuis très longtemps) était donc idiote et la cause de tous mes maux :-) Philippe Delavalade From - Fri Dec 8 18:36:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp9.orange.fr (smtp9.orange.fr [193.252.22.22]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB8HZgiv039108 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 18:35:43 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [10.0.1.48] (APlessis-Bouchard-111-1-2-209.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr [80.11.193.209]) by mwinf0907.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8C14F1C0014C for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 18:35:42 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061208173542573.8C14F1C0014C@mwinf0907.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <04CCD787-1790-4381-A3D2-BB2FF4891193@wanadoo.fr> From: Philippe Michel Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_Beamer_et_les_fl=E8ches__=28ECM=29?= Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 18:35:42 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Milter-DNSRBL: GOOD relayIP match 127.0.0.3 (blacklisted) for 80.11.193.209 in combined.njabl.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:35:43 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kB8HZgiv039108 marvosym bloque \Rightarrow. Essayez d'inverser l'ordre des paquages en mettant marvosym avant amsmath. Dr Philippe MICHEL Le 8 déc. 06 à 12:09, Yves Akakpo a écrit : > Bonjour > > J'essaye d'utiliser beamer pour une présentation. Je ne parviens > pas à visualiser des flèches avec pdflatex. Voici l'ECM et son log. > J'utilise LaTeX(installer depuis le site de Gerben W) sur macosx et > TeXShop > > > > > Merci d'avance pour votre aide. > > Yves From - Fri Dec 8 18:45:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from reserv6.univ-lille1.fr (reserv6.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.20]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB8Hj8LJ046609 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 18:45:13 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from reserv2.univ-lille1.fr (root@reserv2.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.90]) by reserv6.univ-lille1.fr (8.13.7/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id kB8Hioom011743 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 18:44:50 +0100 Received: from [192.168.134.100] ([192.168.134.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by reserv2.univ-lille1.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id kB8Hj6eH014334 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 18:45:07 +0100 Message-ID: <4579A4A7.4020803@univ-lille1.fr> Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:45:11 +0100 From: Daniel Flipo User-Agent: Icedove 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Beamer et les =?windows-1252?Q?fl=E8ches__=28ECM=29?= References: <0134A154-0A7F-4645-9AC0-2E4F82FD854D@wanadoo.fr> <46C25E76-1CF9-41E8-9DCA-E48DB10BB401@mac.com> <22822016-7687-4684-AB73-C97399CE4545@spim.jussieu.fr> In-Reply-To: <22822016-7687-4684-AB73-C97399CE4545@spim.jussieu.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:45:13 +0100 (CET) X-Greylist: Sender DNS name whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (reserv6.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.20]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 18:44:50 +0100 (CET) X-USTL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-USTL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-USTL-MailScanner-From: daniel.flipo@univ-lille1.fr Jean Charlet a écrit le 08.12.2006 16:48 : > Si je mets \rightarrow à la place, j'ai une flèche à un trait. Si je > mets \uparrow (pour voir), ça marche aussi. > > Donc, c'est bien \Rightarrow qui est en cause. Ah oui... c'est marvosym le coupable, j'ai déjà eu la blague !!! D'après le source, marvosym est chargé juste pour l'euro (€)... mais il me semble qu'il y a beaucoup trop de déclarations de fontes qui se contredisent, je vois (dans l'ordre) : \usepackage{aeguill} % On va utiliser des CM pour rm sf et tt à travers % une fonte virtuelle (pourquoi pas) \usepackage{fourier} % et puis non, ce sera de l'Utopia en rm + les % fontes maths adaptées... \usepackage{palatino}% ben non finalement on va faire le rm en % Palatino... et comme beamer repasse derrière pour mettre du sans-serif ce sera au final (et contre toute attente :-)) aeguill qui aura le dernier mot (fourier et palatino n'affectent que les polices romaines) !!! Conclusion : -- ou bien vous voulez du sans-serif alors OK pour \usepackage{aeguill} tout seul, ajoutez \usepackage{eurosans} ou \usepackage{eurosym} pour l'euro si vous voulez. -- ou bien vous voulez des fontes à empattements (serif), alors laissez \usepackage{fourier} (tout seul) et en prime vous aurez l'euro assorti (\texteuro). Dans ce cas il faudra dire à beamer de renoncer au sans-serif, quelquechose comme ceci par exemple : \usefonttheme[stillsansserifsmall,stillsansseriflarge]{serif} Si vous mettiez du verbatim ou du \texttt{} laissez quand même, AVANT \usepackage{fourier}, \usepackage{aeguill} (vous aurez alors des aett en verbatim) ou bien \usepackage{lmodern} (vous aurez des lmtt en verbatim). Si vous ne mettez rien vous aurez, selon votre installation, soit des EC (bitmaps, moches sous acroread), soit des cm-super (type1 pas terribles), les aett et les lmtt sont mieux. > Dans le cadre découverte de LaTeX. Je suis au pays basque et débutant > LaTeX. Mais il y a des membres de l'association euskalug que j'ai > réussi à convaincre du bien fondé de la découverte de LaTeX, J'ai > fabriqué donc une présentation avec beamer. Bravo et bonne chance ! > Le résultat est plus que douteux comme vous voyez. Mais non... on a tous commencé un jour ;-) -- Daniel Flipo From - Fri Dec 8 20:23:08 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp21.orange.fr (smtp21.orange.fr [80.12.242.46] (may be forged)) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB8JMvHD014296 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 20:23:03 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [192.168.1.11] (ABayonne-152-1-47-102.w83-193.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.193.221.102]) by mwinf2104.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B396C1C0009C for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 20:22:57 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061208192257735.B396C1C0009C@mwinf2104.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <46C25E76-1CF9-41E8-9DCA-E48DB10BB401@mac.com> References: <0134A154-0A7F-4645-9AC0-2E4F82FD854D@wanadoo.fr> <46C25E76-1CF9-41E8-9DCA-E48DB10BB401@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Denis_Verg=E8s?= Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_Beamer_et_les_fl=E8ches__=28ECM=29?= Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 20:22:55 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Milter-DNSRBL: GOOD relayIP match 127.0.0.3 (blacklisted) for 83.193.221.102 in combined.njabl.org X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 08 Dec 2006 20:23:03 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kB8JMvHD014296 Re-bonsoir Comme deux illustres membres l'ont découvert c'est bien marvosym le coupable ! Pouvez-vous me dire où et à quelle heure a lieu cette formation à LaTeX ? Cordialement Denis Vergès Le 8 déc. 06 à 15:57, Yves Akakpo a écrit : > > >> Pour ma part avec la même configuration, j'obtiens une sortie .pdf >> correcte. >> D'autre part, en osant m'avancer, dans quel cadre cette >> présentation s'inscrit-elle ? Allant souvent au Pays basque >> puisque voisin, j'aimerais savoir quand a lieu cette présentation. >> >> > > Dans le cadre découverte de LaTeX. Je suis au pays basque et > débutant LaTeX. Mais il y a des membres de l'association euskalug > que j'ai réussi à convaincre du bien fondé de la découverte de > LaTeX, J'ai fabriqué donc une présentation avec beamer. Le > résultat est plus que douteux comme vous voyez. > > Les prochaines dates sont le dimanche 10 décembre et le samedi 16 > décembre 2006. Il y aura chaque fois six à huit personnes. Il n'y a > que des débutants qui ont juste eu une séance de une heure. > > Si vous êtes dans la région et disponible, je suis sûr que vous > nous serez d'une aide extraordinaire. > > Cordialement. > > Yves Akakpo > > > > From - Sat Dec 9 04:09:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.176]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB939VLE079016 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2006 04:09:37 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from mac.com (smtpin05-en2 [10.13.10.150]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout06/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id kB939T10024935 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 19:09:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (har64-1-82-243-177-94.fbx.proxad.net [82.243.177.94]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin05/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id kB939POP014320 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 19:09:28 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <4579A4A7.4020803@univ-lille1.fr> References: <0134A154-0A7F-4645-9AC0-2E4F82FD854D@wanadoo.fr> <46C25E76-1CF9-41E8-9DCA-E48DB10BB401@mac.com> <22822016-7687-4684-AB73-C97399CE4545@spim.jussieu.fr> <4579A4A7.4020803@univ-lille1.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <93604C59-1C2C-4DEA-AC68-40C97CE6B3AF@mac.com> From: Yves Akakpo Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_Beamer_et_les_fl=E8ches__=28ECM=29?= Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 04:10:14 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sat, 09 Dec 2006 04:09:37 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kB939VLE079016 Le 8 déc. 06 à 18:45, Daniel Flipo a écrit : [...] > > Si vous mettiez du verbatim ou du \texttt{} laissez quand même, > AVANT \usepackage{fourier}, \usepackage{aeguill} (vous aurez alors > des aett en verbatim) ou bien \usepackage{lmodern} (vous aurez des > lmtt en verbatim). Si vous ne mettez rien vous aurez, selon votre > installation, soit des EC (bitmaps, moches sous acroread), soit des > cm-super (type1 > pas terribles), les aett et les lmtt sont mieux. > Merci pour vos commentaires détaillés et très instructifs. [...] > Bravo et bonne chance ! Vu mes bourdes, j'en aurai bien besoin. > Mais non... on a tous commencé un jour ;-) J'ai aussi de la lecture si je souhaite évoluer. Il n'est pas évident de reconnaître les incompatibilités. Merci pour les encouragements et bon week-end. Yves Akakpo From - Sat Dec 9 04:19:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.176]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kB93JbbB084048 for ; Sat, 9 Dec 2006 04:19:43 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from mac.com (smtpin05-en2 [10.13.10.150]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout06/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id kB93Jb2h028151 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 19:19:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (har64-1-82-243-177-94.fbx.proxad.net [82.243.177.94]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin05/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id kB93JXV1016623 for ; Fri, 8 Dec 2006 19:19:35 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: References: <0134A154-0A7F-4645-9AC0-2E4F82FD854D@wanadoo.fr> <46C25E76-1CF9-41E8-9DCA-E48DB10BB401@mac.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-496145678 Message-Id: <46ED7A00-027B-4D3A-A273-80444BC6048C@mac.com> From: Yves Akakpo Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_Beamer_et_les_fl=E8ches__=28ECM=29?= Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 04:20:22 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sat, 09 Dec 2006 04:19:43 +0100 (CET) --Apple-Mail-1-496145678 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Le 8 d=E9c. 06 =E0 20:22, Denis Verg=E8s a =E9crit : > Re-bonsoir > Comme deux illustres membres l'ont d=E9couvert c'est bien marvosym le=20= =20 > coupable ! > Pouvez-vous me dire o=F9 et =E0 quelle heure a lieu cette formation =E0= =20=20 > LaTeX ? D=E9couverte de LaTeX =E0 Bayonne, 2 endroits sont possibles : - Fondation Manu Robl=E8s -- 20 rue des cordeliers, Bayonne ; - 1", avenue de l'Interne Jacques Loeb =E0 Bayonne aussi. Mon t=E9l=E9phone Portable : 06 32 60 28 74 Fixe : 08 70 38 44 08 Le lieu d=E9finitif sera fix=E9 samedi apr=E8s-midi. Cordialement. Yves Akakpo --Apple-Mail-1-496145678 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Le 8 d=E9c. 06 =E0 20:22, D= enis Verg=E8s a =E9crit :

Re-bonsoir

Comme deux illustres membres= l'ont d=E9couvert c'est bien marvosym le coupable !

Pouvez-vous me dire o=F9 et =E0 quelle heure a = lieu cette formation =E0 LaTeX ?


D=E9couverte de LaTeX =E0=A0 Bayonne, 2 endro= its sont possibles :
-=A0Fondation Manu Robl=E8s=A0 -- 20 rue des= cordeliers, Bayonne ;
- 1", avenue de l'Interne Jacques Loeb =E0= Bayonne aussi.
Mon t=E9l=E9phone=A0
Portable : 06 32 6= 0 28 74
Fixe : =A0 =A008 70 38 44 08
Le lieu d=E9finitif sera fix=E9 s= amedi apr=E8s-midi.
Cordialement.=A0

Yves Akakpo
--Apple-Mail-1-496145678-- From - Tue Dec 12 10:08:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp21.orange.fr (smtp21.orange.fr [80.12.242.48] (may be forged)) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBC98IsQ044277 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:08:23 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [90.9.198.115] (AMarseille-256-1-87-115.w90-9.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.9.198.115]) by mwinf2118.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3630E1C0009D for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:08:18 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061212090818222.3630E1C0009D@mwinf2118.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Message-Id: <80C8FAB8-F6BF-487B-80C4-6C996919E7D7@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: gut@ens.fr From: "pir2.jv" Subject: en marge de latex: gnumeric Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:08:16 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:08:23 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBC98IsQ044277 Bonjour! C'est peut-être un peu en marge, mais quelqu'un utilise-t-il gnumeric ? C'est assez pratique pour digérer des fichiers excel. On peut enregistrer dans gnumeric sous format .tex qui est un fichier latex, directement utilisable. Cependant, pour l'utiliser, est-il expliqué dans les commentaires, il est indispensable de mettre quelques packages, parmi lesquels: \usepackage{ucs} %% \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} Pour ce qui est de ucs, je l'ai mis dans un fichier où sont les autres .sty, mais cela plante systématiquement, un certain nombre de fichiers n'étant pas trouvés; Pour ce qui est de utf8, je pense que cela fait tilt avec latin1. De plus, semble cherché, également, un utf8x. Si j'enlève les deux packages, j'obtiens, quelquefois, de bons résultats; d'autres fois de mauvais. Si je ne laisse que ucs, c'est quelquefois bon, modulo un certain nombre de return qd çà plante Si je mets utf8, c'est la catastrophe sur le reste du texte. Si quelqu'un a l'expérience de ces packages, merci d'avance. Question complémentaire: les accents Jacques Vernin From - Tue Dec 12 10:27:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from reld01.insa-rennes.fr (reld01.insa-rennes.fr [193.52.94.2]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with SMTP id kBC9RQDJ057444 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:27:31 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (zeus.insa-rennes.fr [127.0.0.1]) by reld01.insa-rennes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25D1729AD7B for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:27:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from reld01.insa-rennes.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zeus.insa-rennes.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02438-05 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:27:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from barbu.insa-rennes.fr (barbu.insa-rennes.fr [10.1.1.143]) by reld01.insa-rennes.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 7014E29AD75 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:27:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (barbu [127.0.0.1]) by barbu.insa-rennes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 073071629C6 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:27:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from barbu.insa-rennes.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (barbu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18537-10 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:27:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.1.45.203] (pc-telecom78 [10.1.45.203]) by barbu.insa-rennes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34CC71629C3 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:27:06 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <457E7683.9000101@IETR.insa-rennes.fr> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:29:39 +0100 From: Jean-Yves Baudais User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060313) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] en marge de latex: gnumeric References: <80C8FAB8-F6BF-487B-80C4-6C996919E7D7@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <80C8FAB8-F6BF-487B-80C4-6C996919E7D7@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at insa-rennes.fr X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at insa-rennes.fr X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:27:31 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBC9RQDJ057444 Bonjour, pir2.jv a écrit : > Pour ce qui est de utf8, je pense que cela fait tilt avec latin1. De > plus, semble cherché, également, un utf8x. > [...] > Si je mets utf8, c'est la catastrophe sur le reste du texte. Vérifier que le fichier produit est bien au forma uft-8 (avec la commande file sous unix). Si ce n'est pas le cas, utiliser "iconv" pour changer l'encodage. > Pour ce qui est de ucs, je l'ai mis dans un fichier où sont les autres .sty, mais cela plante > systématiquement, un certain nombre de fichiers n'étant pas trouvés; Faire un test en mettant tous les fichiers du répertoire CTAN/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/unicode dans le répertoire coutant (il n'y a pas que ucs.sty). --Jyb From - Tue Dec 12 10:28:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.4 required=5.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (smtp4-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.30]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBC9SRNt058148 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:28:32 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [82.248.162.33] (lns-bzn-21-82-248-162-33.adsl.proxad.net [82.248.162.33]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C338932 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:28:26 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <457E7632.7060407@ac-lille.fr> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:28:18 +0100 From: Cauwet Christophe User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060921) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Liste Gut Subject: largeur colonne Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:28:32 +0100 (CET) Bonjour, Je cherche à faire quelque chose du genre p{\linewidth -1cm} pour fixer la largeur d'une colonne d'un tableau. Je n'utilise visiblement pas la bonne syntaxe. A moins que ce ne soit pas possible ? Merci d'éclairer ma lanterne Christophe From - Tue Dec 12 10:31:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from clipper.ens.fr (clipper-gw.ens.fr [129.199.1.22]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBC9VLvY060525 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:31:21 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from (noirel@localhost) by clipper.ens.fr (8.13.1/jb-1.1) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:31:21 +0100 From: Josselin Noirel To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] largeur colonne Message-ID: <20061212093121.GA29146@clipper.ens.fr> References: <457E7632.7060407@ac-lille.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <457E7632.7060407@ac-lille.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:31:21 +0100 (CET) On Tue, Dec 12, 2006 at 10:28:18AM +0100, Cauwet Christophe wrote: > Je cherche à faire quelque chose du genre p{\linewidth -1cm} pour fixer > la largeur d'une colonne d'un tableau. Je n'utilise visiblement pas la > bonne syntaxe. A moins que ce ne soit pas possible ? > > Merci d'éclairer ma lanterne \usepackage{calc} Cependant si vous voulez que le tableau occupe tout la page, votre - 1cm est pifométrique : les séparations de colonnes dépendent de \tabcolsep et \arrayrulewidth (en fonction de si vous utilisez ou non le package array). Par ailleurs, il existe un package tabularx qui pourrait vous être utile. -- Joss From - Tue Dec 12 10:42:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (smtp20.orange.fr [193.252.22.29]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBC9fq50069759 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:41:52 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [192.168.1.11] (ABayonne-152-1-54-219.w83-193.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.193.106.219]) by mwinf2017.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A81B81C00085 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:41:49 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061212094149688.A81B81C00085@mwinf2017.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <457E7632.7060407@ac-lille.fr> References: <457E7632.7060407@ac-lille.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6545C0FF-D357-408F-AC0C-A67F68BDDA0E@wanadoo.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Denis_Verg=E8s?= Subject: Re: [gut] largeur colonne Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:41:48 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:41:52 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBC9fq50069759 Bonjour, Si vous voulez une grande colonne et une autre de 1cm, le plus simple est d'écrire : \begin{tabular}{|p{0.917\linewidth} | p{1cm}|} Le 0.917 correspond (chez moi) au quotient largeur de la colonne désirée par la largeur de la page : chez moi 11/12. À adapter à la largeur de vos lignes. Cordialement. Denis Le 12 déc. 06 à 10:28, Cauwet Christophe a écrit : > Bonjour, > > Je cherche à faire quelque chose du genre p{\linewidth -1cm} pour > fixer la largeur d'une colonne d'un tableau. Je n'utilise > visiblement pas la bonne syntaxe. A moins que ce ne soit pas > possible ? > > Merci d'éclairer ma lanterne > > Christophe > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------- > Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus > mail. Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. > > From - Tue Dec 12 10:46:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from reserv5.univ-lille1.fr (reserv5.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.19]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBC9k10C073617 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:46:07 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from reserv1.univ-lille1.fr (root@reserv1.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.15]) by reserv5.univ-lille1.fr (8.13.7/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id kBC9jqAi011449 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:45:52 +0100 Received: from [192.168.134.100] ([192.168.134.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by reserv1.univ-lille1.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id kBC9jvcM029327 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:45:58 +0100 Message-ID: <457E7A4F.30001@univ-lille1.fr> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:45:51 +0100 From: Daniel Flipo User-Agent: Icedove 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061128) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] en marge de latex: gnumeric References: <80C8FAB8-F6BF-487B-80C4-6C996919E7D7@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <80C8FAB8-F6BF-487B-80C4-6C996919E7D7@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:46:07 +0100 (CET) X-Greylist: Sender DNS name whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (reserv5.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.19]); Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:45:52 +0100 (CET) X-USTL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-USTL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-USTL-MailScanner-From: daniel.flipo@univ-lille1.fr Bonjour, pir2.jv a écrit le 12.12.2006 10:08 : > \usepackage{ucs} %% > \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} Ce n'est pas compatible : le codage utf8 est défini dans latex-base, mais il est incomplet. Il s'utilise *sans* ucs : \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} à la place de latin1 ou latin9 par exemple. L'extension ucs propose utf8x préférable à utf8. Il faut alors écrire \usepackage{ucs} %% \usepackage[utf8x]{inputenc} ou seulement \usepackage[utf8x]{inputenc} (ucs sera chargé automatiquement). Bien sûr il faut que le source soit intégralement codé en utf8, s'il reste des caractères latin1 ça mettra le souk... Mais pour utiliser utf8x il faut le paquet unicode *complet*, à récupérer sur CTAN tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/unicode/ Ça peut s'installer dans texmf-local/tex/latex/ucs par exemple si vous travaillez avec texlive sous unix (avec un mktexlsr ou texhash après). Si vos fichiers nouvellement ajoutés ne sont pas trouvés, vous pouvez lire ceci : http://daniel.flipo.free.fr/doc/tex-admin/ Bonne chance, -- Daniel Flipo From - Tue Dec 12 11:03:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (smtp20.orange.fr [193.252.22.29]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBCA37pR088615 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:03:07 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [90.9.198.115] (AMarseille-256-1-87-115.w90-9.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.9.198.115]) by mwinf2013.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EF2DB1C000B8 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:03:06 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061212100306979.EF2DB1C000B8@mwinf2013.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <457E7A4F.30001@univ-lille1.fr> References: <80C8FAB8-F6BF-487B-80C4-6C996919E7D7@wanadoo.fr> <457E7A4F.30001@univ-lille1.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: [gut] en marge de latex: gnumeric Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:03:05 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:03:07 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBCA37pR088615 C'est très clair (enfin, si on veut). Merci. Ma conclusion, aujourd'hui: ce n'est pas le truc à improviser dans l'urgence! Car, en effet, tout cela pour un petit tableau de rien du tout, immergé dans un océan réalisé en latin-1! A moins que, pour passer de latin1 à utf, il suffise de changer le codage dans emacs ? Je travaille sur Mac OSX. Donc (enfin, presque donc), mes fichiers sont sous sw, chargés par fink. Cela me ramène à un vieux sujet, sur lequel je merde toujours: ON m'envoie des morceaux de textes rédigés en word. Je les copie, je les colle dans emacs. J'enregistre en latin-1. Je compile. Le fichier est considéré (par pdflatex) comme incompréhensible. (quelquefois; pas toujours ????) Je suis donc obligé de le copier, auparavant, dans alpha. Là, en général, pas de problème; lancer un logiciel de codage cyclone qui me crée un nouveau fichier .tex, que je lis avec emacs et que je peux copier sans problème. Le rêve!!! Alors, tout bouleverser. Peut-être faudra-t-il en arriver là! Pour l'instant, je vais lire : http://daniel.flipo.free.fr/doc/tex- admin/ Merci JV Le 12 déc. 06 à 10:45, Daniel Flipo a écrit : > Bonjour, > > pir2.jv a écrit le 12.12.2006 10:08 : > >> \usepackage{ucs} %% >> \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} > > Ce n'est pas compatible : le codage utf8 est défini dans latex- > base, mais il est incomplet. Il s'utilise *sans* ucs : > \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} > à la place de latin1 ou latin9 par exemple. > > L'extension ucs propose utf8x préférable à utf8. > Il faut alors écrire > \usepackage{ucs} %% > \usepackage[utf8x]{inputenc} > ou seulement > \usepackage[utf8x]{inputenc} > (ucs sera chargé automatiquement). > > Bien sûr il faut que le source soit intégralement codé en utf8, > s'il reste des caractères latin1 ça mettra le souk... > > Mais pour utiliser utf8x il faut le paquet unicode *complet*, à > récupérer sur CTAN tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/unicode/ > Ça peut s'installer dans texmf-local/tex/latex/ucs par exemple si vous > travaillez avec texlive sous unix (avec un mktexlsr ou texhash après). > > Si vos fichiers nouvellement ajoutés ne sont pas trouvés, vous > pouvez lire ceci : http://daniel.flipo.free.fr/doc/tex-admin/ > > > Bonne chance, > -- > Daniel Flipo > Jacques Vernin From - Tue Dec 12 11:42:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp7-g19.free.fr (smtp7-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.64]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBCAgBSL022950 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:42:16 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (sju13-3-82-234-221-201.fbx.proxad.net [82.234.221.201]) by smtp7-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495BB5508 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:42:11 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <457E8788.8050903@geo.hmg.inpg.fr> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:42:16 +0100 From: xavier roguiez User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (Windows/20061025) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] en marge de latex: gnumeric References: <80C8FAB8-F6BF-487B-80C4-6C996919E7D7@wanadoo.fr> <457E7A4F.30001@univ-lille1.fr> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:42:16 +0100 (CET) Bonjour Dans le même genre de manipulation, si vous cherchez des outils Tableur -> LaTeX, il y a le libre : calc2tex qui permet de copier coller des tableaux de manière assez rapide, ca ne fait pas tout, mais c'est pratique Sinon en technique enregistrer sous, il y a writer2latex Le tout se fait naturellement de Open Office vers LaTeX Xavier roguiez From - Tue Dec 12 12:16:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr (smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr [193.252.23.120] (may be forged)) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBCBGhKL051946 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:16:43 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0113.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 21322700008A for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:16:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (ALille-257-1-152-62.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.208.235.62]) by mwinf0113.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DC0FC7000088 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:16:42 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061212111642901.DC0FC7000088@mwinf0113.orange.fr X-ME-User-Auth: dbitouze Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:17:04 +0100 From: Denis =?ISO-8859-1?B?Qml0b3V66Q==?= To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] en marge de latex: gnumeric Message-ID: <20061212121704.127b13d7@localhost> In-Reply-To: <80C8FAB8-F6BF-487B-80C4-6C996919E7D7@wanadoo.fr> References: <80C8FAB8-F6BF-487B-80C4-6C996919E7D7@wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.3; i586-mandriva-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 12 Dec 2006 12:16:43 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBCBGhKL051946 Le Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:08:16 +0100 "pir2.jv" a écrit : > C'est peut-être un peu en marge, mais quelqu'un utilise-t-il > gnumeric ? C'est assez pratique pour digérer des fichiers excel. Je persiste à penser que les macros Excel -> TeX (http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml#excel2latex) ou OpenOffice -> TeX (http://calc2latex.sourceforge.net/index.html) sont infiniment plus adaptées. Cf. par exemple pages 79 et 80 de : http://latexdunkerque.objectis.net/Members/dbitouze/DiaposConferences/file.2006-12-12.9048086283 -- Denis From - Tue Dec 12 15:39:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp21.orange.fr (smtp21.orange.fr [80.12.242.46] (may be forged)) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBCEdWll020539 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:39:37 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [90.9.198.115] (AMarseille-256-1-87-115.w90-9.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.9.198.115]) by mwinf2106.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A4BF31C00082 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:39:31 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061212143931674.A4BF31C00082@mwinf2106.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20061212121704.127b13d7@localhost> References: <80C8FAB8-F6BF-487B-80C4-6C996919E7D7@wanadoo.fr> <20061212121704.127b13d7@localhost> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-31-796092350 Message-Id: <6D302E69-B326-49D4-8945-B9DDFB426946@wanadoo.fr> From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: [gut] en marge de latex: gnumeric Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:39:29 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:39:37 +0100 (CET) --Apple-Mail-31-796092350 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Le 12 d=E9c. 06 =E0 12:17, Denis Bitouz=E9 a =E9crit : > Le Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:08:16 +0100 > "pir2.jv" a =E9crit : > >> C'est peut-=EAtre un peu en marge, mais quelqu'un utilise-t-il >> gnumeric ? C'est assez pratique pour dig=E9rer des fichiers excel. > > Je persiste =E0 penser que les macros Excel -> TeX > (http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml#excel2latex) ou > OpenOffice -> TeX (http://calc2latex.sourceforge.net/index.html) sont > infiniment plus adapt=E9es. Cf. par exemple pages 79 et 80 de : > Bon, voyons un peu. J'ai lu votre document que j'ai trouv=E9 tr=E8s=20=20 interessant. J'ai charg=E9 calc2latex. J'ai suivi les instructions et j'ai ma macro. Je prends un tableau qui tra=EEne sur le bureau. J'en s=E9lecte un morceau J'applique la macro (j'ai mis un moment pour comprendre que c'=E9tait=20=20 "main" qu'il fallait appliquer) J'obtiens, splendide, un petit morceau de table qui me convient=20=20 parfaitement. VOIRE!! Je cr=E9e un petit document minimum (je pense qu'il y a ce qu'il faut): J'inclus le morceau de table crach=E9 par la macro J'enregistre (je prends soin d'indiquer que c'est en latin1) Je "pdflatexe" R=E9sultat: l.1 ? ? ^^@ ^^@ ^^@ J'ai essay=E9 d'enlever les accents, mais cela ne change rien. Cela ressemble =E0 un probl=E8me de codage, mais o=F9 est l'erreur? J'ai essay=E9 d'aller plus loin: Je mets les lignes, un =E0 une, et compile chaque fois. Le travail de=20=20 b=E9n=E9dictin ne m'impressionne pas: =E7=E0 merde quand j'ajoute la lignes: Articles d=92habillement et chaussures & 9,7 & 8,1 & 6,1 & 5,4 & 4 \\=20=20 \hline qui ne me para=EEt pas horrible. Toutes les autres lignes fonctionnent tout =E0 fait normalement. Non solum j'y perds mon latin, sed etiam, mon chinois (qu'est pas=20=20 =E9pais)! > http://latexdunkerque.objectis.net/Members/dbitouze/=20 > DiaposConferences/file.2006-12-12.9048086283 > --=20 > Denis > > > Jacques Vernin --Apple-Mail-31-796092350 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; x-unix-mode=0644; name=exco.tex Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=exco.tex //4gACAAIAAKAAoAXABsAGkAcwB0AGYAaQBsAGUAcwAKACAAXABkAG8AYwB1 AG0AZQBuAHQAYwBsAGEAcwBzAFsAYQA0AHAAYQBwAGUAcgAsADEAMgBwAHQA JQAsAGQAcgBhAGYAdAAKAF0AewBhAHIAdABpAGMAbABlAH0ACgAlAFwAdQBz AGUAcABhAGMAawBhAGcAZQBbAGYAcgBlAG4AYwBoAF0AewBiAGEAYgBlAGwA fQAKAFwAdQBzAGUAcABhAGMAawBhAGcAZQBbAGwAYQB0AGkAbgAxAF0AewBp AG4AcAB1AHQAZQBuAGMAfQAKACUAXAB1AHMAZQBwAGEAYwBrAGEAZwBlAFsA VAAxAF0AewBmAG8AbgB0AGUAbgBjAH0ACgAlAFwAdQBzAGUAcABhAGMAawBh AGcAZQBbAGMAeQByAF0AewBhAGUAZwB1AGkAbABsAH0ACgBcAHUAcwBlAHAA YQBjAGsAYQBnAGUAWwBmAHIAYQBuAGMAYQBpAHMAXQB7AGIAYQBiAGUAbAB9 AAoACgBcAGIAZQBnAGkAbgB7AGQAbwBjAHUAbQBlAG4AdAB9AAoAXABiAGUA ZwBpAG4AewB0AGEAYgBsAGUAfQBbAGgAdABiAHAAXQAKAFwAYwBhAHAAdABp AG8AbgB7AG8AcABlAG4AMgBsAGEAdABlAHgAfQAKAFwAYgBlAGcAaQBuAHsA dABhAGIAdQBsAGEAcgB9AHsAfABsAHwAcgB8AHIAfAByAHwAcgB8AHIAfAB9 AAoAXABoAGwAaQBuAGUACgBQAHIAbwBkAHUAaQB0AHMAIABhAGwAaQBtAGUA bgB0AGEAaQByAGUAcwAsACAAYgBvAGkAcwBzAG8AbgBzACAAbgBvAG4AIABh AGwAYwBvAG8AbABpAHMAZQBlAHMAIAAmACAAMgAzACwAMgAgACYAIAAxADgA IAAmACAAMQA0ACwANQAgACYAIAAxADMALAAxACAAJgAgADEAMQAsADQAIABc AFwAIABcAGgAbABpAG4AZQAKAEIAbwBpAHMAcwBvAG4AcwAgAGEAbABjAG8A bwBsAGkAcwBlAGUAcwAsACAAdABhAGIAYQBjACAAJgAgADUALAA0ACAAJgAg ADMALAA4ACAAJgAgADIALAA4ACAAJgAgADIALAA0ACAAJgAgADIALAA3ACAA XABcACAAXABoAGwAaQBuAGUACgBBAHIAdABpAGMAbABlAHMAIABkABkgaABh AGIAaQBsAGwAZQBtAGUAbgB0ACAAZQB0ACAAYwBoAGEAdQBzAHMAdQByAGUA cwAgACYAIAA5ACwANwAgACYAIAA4ACwAMQAgACYAIAA2ACwAMQAgACYAIAA1 ACwANAAgACYAIAA0ACAAXABcACAAXABoAGwAaQBuAGUACgBMAG8AZwBlAG0A ZQBuAHQALAAgAGMAaABhAHUAZgBmAGEAZwBlACwAIABlAGMAbABhAGkAcgBh AGcAZQAgACYAIAAxADAALAA3ACAAJgAgADEANQAsADgAIAAmACAAMQA2ACwA OAAgACYAIAAxADcALAA0ACAAJgAgADEAOQAsADEAIABcAFwAIABcAGgAbABp AG4AZQAKAGQAbwBuAHQAIAA6ACAATABvAGMAYQB0AGkAbwBuACAAZABlACAA bABvAGcAZQBtAGUAbgB0ACAAJgAgADUALAA2ACAAJgAgADEAMAAsADUAIAAm ACAAMQAwACAAJgAgADEAMgAgACYAIAAxADMALAA2ACAAXABcACAAXABoAGwA aQBuAGUACgBDAGgAYQB1AGYAZgBhAGcAZQAsACAAZQBjAGwAYQBpAHIAYQBn AGUAIAAmACAAMwAsADYAIAAmACAAMwAsADMAIAAmACAANAAsADcAIAAmACAA MwAsADMAIAAmACAAMwAgAFwAXAAgAFwAaABsAGkAbgBlAAoAZQBxAHUAaQBw AGUAbQBlAG4AdAAgAGQAdQAgAGwAbwBnAGUAbQBlAG4AdAAgACYAIAA4ACwA NAAgACYAIAA3ACwAMwAgACYAIAA2ACwAOAAgACYAIAA1ACwANgAgACYAIAA1 ACwAMQAgAFwAXAAgAFwAaABsAGkAbgBlAAoAXABlAG4AZAB7AHQAYQBiAHUA bABhAHIAfQAKAFwAbABhAGIAZQBsAHsAQwBlAGMAaQAgAGUAcwB0ACAAdQBu ACAAZQBzAHMAYQBpAH0ACgBcAGUAbgBkAHsAdABhAGIAbABlAH0ACgAKAAoA XABsAGEAYgBlAGwAewBkAGUAcgBuAGkAZQByAGUAcABhAGcAZQB9AAoACgBc AGUAbgBkAHsAZABvAGMAdQBtAGUAbgB0AH0ACgAKAAoA --Apple-Mail-31-796092350 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: application/octet-stream; x-unix-mode=0644; name=exco.log Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=exco.log This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4) (format=3Dpdflate= x 2005.12.16) 12 DEC 2006 15:14 entering extended mode **exco.tex (./exco.tex LaTeX2e <2003/12/01> Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerma= n, b ahasa, basque, bulgarian, catalan, croatian, czech, danish, dutch, esperant= o, e stonian, finnish, greek, icelandic, irish, italian, latin, magyar, norsk, p= olis h, portuges, romanian, russian, serbian, slovak, slovene, spanish, swedish,= tur kish, ukrainian, nohyphenation, loaded. ! 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Type H for immediate help. ...=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 l.1 =FF =FE ^^@ ^^@ ^^@ ? x =20 Here is how much of TeX's memory you used: 6 strings out of 94500 243 string characters out of 1176113 48348 words of memory out of 1000000 3273 multiletter control sequences out of 10000+50000 3640 words of font info for 14 fonts, out of 500000 for 2000 580 hyphenation exceptions out of 1000 5i,0n,4p,21b,14s stack positions out of 1500i,500n,5000p,200000b,5000s PDF statistics: 0 PDF objects out of 300000 0 named destinations out of 131072 1 words of extra memory for PDF output out of 65536 No pages of output. --Apple-Mail-31-796092350 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed --Apple-Mail-31-796092350-- From - Tue Dec 12 15:57:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp8-g19.free.fr (smtp8-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.65]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBCEvcWJ039555 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:57:43 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (sju13-3-82-234-221-201.fbx.proxad.net [82.234.221.201]) by smtp8-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C295587 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:57:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <457EC368.60502@geo.hmg.inpg.fr> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:57:44 +0100 From: xavier roguiez User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (Windows/20061025) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] en marge de latex: gnumeric References: <80C8FAB8-F6BF-487B-80C4-6C996919E7D7@wanadoo.fr> <20061212121704.127b13d7@localhost> <6D302E69-B326-49D4-8945-B9DDFB426946@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <6D302E69-B326-49D4-8945-B9DDFB426946@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:57:44 +0100 (CET) pir2.jv wrote: > > Le 12 déc. 06 à 12:17, Denis Bitouzé a écrit : > >> Le Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:08:16 +0100 >> "pir2.jv" a écrit : >> >>> C'est peut-être un peu en marge, mais quelqu'un utilise-t-il >>> gnumeric ? C'est assez pratique pour digérer des fichiers excel. >> >> Je persiste à penser que les macros Excel -> TeX >> (http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml#excel2latex) ou >> OpenOffice -> TeX (http://calc2latex.sourceforge.net/index.html) sont >> infiniment plus adaptées. Cf. par exemple pages 79 et 80 de : >> > > Bon, voyons un peu. J'ai lu votre document que j'ai trouvé très > interessant. > J'ai chargé calc2latex. > J'ai suivi les instructions et j'ai ma macro. > Je prends un tableau qui traîne sur le bureau. > J'en sélecte un morceau > J'applique la macro (j'ai mis un moment pour comprendre que c'était > "main" qu'il fallait appliquer) > J'obtiens, splendide, un petit morceau de table qui me convient > parfaitement. > > VOIRE!! > Je crée un petit document minimum (je pense qu'il y a ce qu'il faut): Bonjour Il faudrait que vous donniez l'entête de votre document, car chez moi, le copier coller fonctionne très bien. Et la compilation marche aussi. Donnez le type d'éditeur, environnement pc ou mac, distribution...etc que vous utilisez Xavier roguiez From - Tue Dec 12 15:58:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from web53107.mail.yahoo.com (web53107.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.49.57]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with SMTP id kBCEwATo040075 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:58:15 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: (qmail 30243 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Dec 2006 14:58:09 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ie0RftFXeklWQfy1nW+KTrJA8vaKXSGj9Kwd32vzqLWhtKfDULBh6uo4PJF9d/NCEefs1zJ+28So3lmfR6kIfCC+HvM9ugfiK+00dvxQCynKpjvFFnE98y6pLsMWYa8sHUhIjhP8Qpq/SODIY8eW36R1eodFAUtnKsBKWD2CuFU= ; Message-ID: <20061212145809.30241.qmail@web53107.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [130.104.226.164] by web53107.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 06:58:09 PST Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 06:58:09 -0800 (PST) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fran=FFffffe7ois_S?= Subject: Re : [gut] en marge de latex: gnumeric To: gut@ens.fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 12 Dec 2006 15:58:16 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBCEwATo040075 quand j'ouvre le fichier attaché au mail, il n'y a écrit que la ligne: ÿþ C'est normal que dans le log je trouve la ligne suivante (je pense)... l.1 ÿ þ ^^@ ^^@ ^^@ ? x Sinon, pour être un peu plus constructif, j'ai déjà eut le problème qu'il y avait des problèmes avec les virgules de documents qui venaient de exell. Je ne sais pas si Microsoft code tout ça comme les autres... Je ne sais pas si tu as des virgules dans les autres lignes. Frans ----- Message d'origine ---- De : pir2.jv À : gut@ens.fr Envoyé le : Mardi, 12 Décembre 2006, 15h39mn 29s Objet : Re: [gut] en marge de latex: gnumeric Le 12 déc. 06 à 12:17, Denis Bitouzé a écrit : > Le Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:08:16 +0100 > "pir2.jv" a écrit : > >> C'est peut-être un peu en marge, mais quelqu'un utilise-t-il >> gnumeric ? C'est assez pratique pour digérer des fichiers excel. > > Je persiste à penser que les macros Excel -> TeX > (http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml#excel2latex) ou > OpenOffice -> TeX (http://calc2latex.sourceforge.net/index.html) sont > infiniment plus adaptées. Cf. par exemple pages 79 et 80 de : > Bon, voyons un peu. J'ai lu votre document que j'ai trouvé très interessant. J'ai chargé calc2latex. J'ai suivi les instructions et j'ai ma macro. Je prends un tableau qui traîne sur le bureau. J'en sélecte un morceau J'applique la macro (j'ai mis un moment pour comprendre que c'était "main" qu'il fallait appliquer) J'obtiens, splendide, un petit morceau de table qui me convient parfaitement. VOIRE!! Je crée un petit document minimum (je pense qu'il y a ce qu'il faut): J'inclus le morceau de table craché par la macro J'enregistre (je prends soin d'indiquer que c'est en latin1) Je "pdflatexe" Résultat: l.1 ? ? ^^@ ^^@ ^^@ J'ai essayé d'enlever les accents, mais cela ne change rien. Cela ressemble à un problème de codage, mais où est l'erreur? J'ai essayé d'aller plus loin: Je mets les lignes, un à une, et compile chaque fois. Le travail de bénédictin ne m'impressionne pas: çà merde quand j'ajoute la lignes: Articles d’habillement et chaussures & 9,7 & 8,1 & 6,1 & 5,4 & 4 \\ \hline qui ne me paraît pas horrible. Toutes les autres lignes fonctionnent tout à fait normalement. Non solum j'y perds mon latin, sed etiam, mon chinois (qu'est pas épais)! > http://latexdunkerque.objectis.net/Members/dbitouze/ > DiaposConferences/file.2006-12-12.9048086283 > -- > Denis > > > Jacques Vernin ___________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From - Tue Dec 12 16:02:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from clipper.ens.fr (clipper-gw.ens.fr [129.199.1.22]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBCF28wO043790 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:02:08 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from bireme.ens.fr (root@bireme [129.199.129.2]) by clipper.ens.fr (8.13.1/jb-1.1) id kBCF27aO000120 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:02:07 +0100 (MET) Received: from (reutenau@localhost) by bireme.ens.fr (8.13.6/jb-1.1) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:02:07 +0100 From: Arthur Reutenauer To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] en marge de latex: gnumeric Message-ID: <20061212150205.GB10795@clipper.ens.fr> Reply-To: gut@ens.fr References: <80C8FAB8-F6BF-487B-80C4-6C996919E7D7@wanadoo.fr> <20061212121704.127b13d7@localhost> <6D302E69-B326-49D4-8945-B9DDFB426946@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <6D302E69-B326-49D4-8945-B9DDFB426946@wanadoo.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:02:08 +0100 (CET) > Résultat: > l.1 ? > ? ^^@ ^^@ ^^@ À vue de nez, ça peut être de l'UCS-2 ; mais c'est assez difficile à dire hors contexte. Est-ce que vous pourriez envoyer les fichiers incriminés (ou mettre un lien vers une page Web si c'est trop gros, pas la peine de tout envoyer à toute la liste) ? Mettez un exemple de ce qui marche chez vous, ce qui ne marche pas, et (au moins) les log que vous obtenez ; éventuellement les dvi aussi. > çà merde quand j'ajoute la lignes: > Articles d’habillement et chaussures & 9,7 & 8,1 & 6,1 & 5,4 & 4 \\ \hline > qui ne me paraît pas horrible. C'est l'apostrophe... Arthur From - Tue Dec 12 16:07:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp14.orange.fr (smtp14.orange.fr [193.252.23.69]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBCF6phi047996 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:06:51 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [90.9.198.115] (AMarseille-256-1-87-115.w90-9.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.9.198.115]) by mwinf1407.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F07FC70000A0 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:06:50 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061212150650985.F07FC70000A0@mwinf1407.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <457EC368.60502@geo.hmg.inpg.fr> References: <80C8FAB8-F6BF-487B-80C4-6C996919E7D7@wanadoo.fr> <20061212121704.127b13d7@localhost> <6D302E69-B326-49D4-8945-B9DDFB426946@wanadoo.fr> <457EC368.60502@geo.hmg.inpg.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: [gut] en marge de latex: gnumeric Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:06:48 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:06:51 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBCF6phi047996 >>> >>> Je persiste à penser que les macros Excel -> TeX >>> (http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml#excel2latex) ou >>> OpenOffice -> TeX (http://calc2latex.sourceforge.net/index.html) >>> sont >>> infiniment plus adaptées. Cf. par exemple pages 79 et 80 de : >>> >> >> Bon, voyons un peu. J'ai lu votre document que j'ai trouvé très >> interessant. >> J'ai chargé calc2latex. >> J'ai suivi les instructions et j'ai ma macro. >> Je prends un tableau qui traîne sur le bureau. >> J'en sélecte un morceau >> J'applique la macro (j'ai mis un moment pour comprendre que >> c'était "main" qu'il fallait appliquer) >> J'obtiens, splendide, un petit morceau de table qui me convient >> parfaitement. >> >> VOIRE!! >> Je crée un petit document minimum (je pense qu'il y a ce qu'il faut): > Bonjour > Il faudrait que vous donniez l'entête de votre document, car chez > moi, le copier coller fonctionne très bien. Et la compilation > marche aussi. > Donnez le type d'éditeur, environnement pc ou mac, > distribution...etc que vous utilisez > > Xavier roguiez > En-tête: Je ne comprends pas. Si ce sont les lignes du haut: %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \listfiles \documentclass[a4paper,12pt%,draft ]{article} %\usepackage[french]{babel} \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc} %\usepackage[T1]{fontenc} %\usepackage[cyr]{aeguill} \usepackage[francais]{babel} \begin{document} %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Je travaille avec Mac, OS X.4.8 Mon éditeur est emacs Distribution ? J'ignore. J'ai changé, l'actuelle a été installée par fink (dans /sw) et je pense que c'est donc tetex. (Une texlive doit encore traîner dans /usr) Depuis, j'ai essayé avec un autre exemple. Merde également. Saut Jacques Vernin From - Tue Dec 12 16:11:42 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (smtp20.orange.fr [193.252.22.29]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBCFBbZ8053093 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:11:37 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [90.9.198.115] (AMarseille-256-1-87-115.w90-9.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.9.198.115]) by mwinf2018.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 321071C000BE for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:11:37 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061212151137205.321071C000BE@mwinf2018.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20061212145809.30241.qmail@web53107.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20061212145809.30241.qmail@web53107.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: Re : [gut] en marge de latex: gnumeric Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:11:35 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:11:37 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBCFBbZ8053093 Le 12 déc. 06 à 15:58, Franÿffffe7ois S a écrit : > quand j'ouvre le fichier attaché au mail, il n'y a écrit que la > ligne: > > ÿþ > Non, moi, mon log, contient: ======== This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4) (format=pdflatex 2005.12.16) 12 DEC 2006 15:14 entering extended mode **exco.tex (./exco.tex LaTeX2e <2003/12/01> Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman, b ahasa, basque, bulgarian, catalan, croatian, czech, danish, dutch, esperanto, e stonian, finnish, greek, icelandic, irish, italian, latin, magyar, norsk, polis h, portuges, romanian, russian, serbian, slovak, slovene, spanish, swedish, tur kish, ukrainian, nohyphenation, loaded. ! LaTeX Error: Missing \begin{document}. See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation. Type H for immediate help. ... l.1 ˇ Ë› ^^@ ^^@ ^^@ ? x Here is how much of TeX's memory you used: 6 strings out of 94500 243 string characters out of 1176113 48348 words of memory out of 1000000 3273 multiletter control sequences out of 10000+50000 3640 words of font info for 14 fonts, out of 500000 for 2000 580 hyphenation exceptions out of 1000 5i,0n,4p,21b,14s stack positions out of 1500i,500n,5000p,200000b,5000s PDF statistics: 0 PDF objects out of 300000 0 named destinations out of 131072 1 words of extra memory for PDF output out of 65536 No pages of output. ================== et le fichier tex: \listfiles \documentclass[a4paper,12pt%,draft ]{article} %\usepackage[french]{babel} \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc} %\usepackage[T1]{fontenc} %\usepackage[cyr]{aeguill} \usepackage[francais]{babel} \begin{document} \begin{table}[htbp] \caption{open2latex} \begin{tabular}{|l|r|r|r|r|r|} \hline Produits alimentaires, boissons non alcoolisees & 23,2 & 18 & 14,5 & 13,1 & 11,4 \\ \hline Boissons alcoolisees, tabac & 5,4 & 3,8 & 2,8 & 2,4 & 2,7 \\ \hline Articles d’habillement et chaussures & 9,7 & 8,1 & 6,1 & 5,4 & 4 \\ \hline Logement, chauffage, eclairage & 10,7 & 15,8 & 16,8 & 17,4 & 19,1 \\ \hline dont : Location de logement & 5,6 & 10,5 & 10 & 12 & 13,6 \\ \hline Chauffage, eclairage & 3,6 & 3,3 & 4,7 & 3,3 & 3 \\ \hline equipement du logement & 8,4 & 7,3 & 6,8 & 5,6 & 5,1 \\ \hline \end{tabular} \label{Ceci est un essai} \end{table} \label{dernierepage} \end{document} .... je vais essayer de remplacer les "," par des ".", mais je ne comprendrais pas que cela marche sur certaines lignes et pas sur d'autres. Salut From - Tue Dec 12 16:16:54 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp7-g19.free.fr (smtp7-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.64]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBCFGhP4059153 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:16:48 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (sju13-3-82-234-221-201.fbx.proxad.net [82.234.221.201]) by smtp7-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0276B5505 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:16:42 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <457EC7DC.3060601@geo.hmg.inpg.fr> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:16:44 +0100 From: xavier roguiez User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (Windows/20061025) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] en marge de latex: gnumeric References: <80C8FAB8-F6BF-487B-80C4-6C996919E7D7@wanadoo.fr> <20061212121704.127b13d7@localhost> <6D302E69-B326-49D4-8945-B9DDFB426946@wanadoo.fr> <457EC368.60502@geo.hmg.inpg.fr> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:16:48 +0100 (CET) pir2.jv wrote: > > >>>> >>>> Je persiste à penser que les macros Excel -> TeX >>>> (http://www.jam-software.com/freeware/index.shtml#excel2latex) ou >>>> OpenOffice -> TeX (http://calc2latex.sourceforge.net/index.html) sont >>>> infiniment plus adaptées. Cf. par exemple pages 79 et 80 de : >>>> >>> >>> Bon, voyons un peu. J'ai lu votre document que j'ai trouvé très >>> interessant. >>> J'ai chargé calc2latex. >>> J'ai suivi les instructions et j'ai ma macro. >>> Je prends un tableau qui traîne sur le bureau. >>> J'en sélecte un morceau >>> J'applique la macro (j'ai mis un moment pour comprendre que c'était >>> "main" qu'il fallait appliquer) >>> J'obtiens, splendide, un petit morceau de table qui me convient >>> parfaitement. >>> >>> VOIRE!! >>> Je crée un petit document minimum (je pense qu'il y a ce qu'il faut): >> Bonjour >> Il faudrait que vous donniez l'entête de votre document, car chez >> moi, le copier coller fonctionne très bien. Et la compilation marche >> aussi. >> Donnez le type d'éditeur, environnement pc ou mac, distribution...etc >> que vous utilisez >> >> Xavier roguiez >> > > > En-tête: Je ne comprends pas. Si ce sont les lignes du haut: > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > \listfiles > \documentclass[a4paper,12pt%,draft > ]{article} > %\usepackage[french]{babel} > \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc} > %\usepackage[T1]{fontenc} > %\usepackage[cyr]{aeguill} > \usepackage[francais]{babel} > > \begin{document} > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > Je travaille avec Mac, OS X.4.8 > Mon éditeur est emacs > Distribution ? J'ignore. J'ai changé, l'actuelle a été installée par > fink (dans /sw) et je pense que c'est donc tetex. (Une texlive doit > encore traîner dans /usr) > Depuis, j'ai essayé avec un autre exemple. Merde également. > > Saut > Jacques Vernin > > > > Sous windows votre fichier apparaît avec des tas de 0 entre toutes les lettres, Je pense que cela vient de votre copier coller, mais en vérifiant cela vient du copier coller. Avez vous tenter de copier coller d'un éditeur différent une phrase quelconque et la compiler sous latex ensuite. Avez vous le même problème ? Bon courage xavier roguiez From - Tue Dec 12 16:20:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from clipper.ens.fr (clipper-gw.ens.fr [129.199.1.22]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBCFKKSe063112 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:20:20 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from bireme.ens.fr (root@bireme [129.199.129.2]) by clipper.ens.fr (8.13.1/jb-1.1) id kBCFKJHv028857 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:20:19 +0100 (MET) Received: from (reutenau@localhost) by bireme.ens.fr (8.13.6/jb-1.1) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:20:19 +0100 From: Arthur Reutenauer To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] en marge de latex: gnumeric Message-ID: <20061212152018.GC10795@clipper.ens.fr> Reply-To: gut@ens.fr References: <80C8FAB8-F6BF-487B-80C4-6C996919E7D7@wanadoo.fr> <20061212121704.127b13d7@localhost> <6D302E69-B326-49D4-8945-B9DDFB426946@wanadoo.fr> <20061212150205.GB10795@clipper.ens.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20061212150205.GB10795@clipper.ens.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:20:20 +0100 (CET) > Est-ce que vous pourriez envoyer les fichiers incriminés Excusez-moi, je n'avais pas vu que vous les aviez effectivement attachés... C'est bien de l'UCS-2 litte-endian, et le problème est bien l'apostrophe qui n'est pas une apostrophe ASCII, mais l'une des apostrophes « plus jolie » d'Unicode (U+2019 GUILLEMET-APOSTROPHE). Cela fait en effet un certain temps que Microsoft a décidé que l'apostrophe standard n'était pas convenable, et qu'il fallait la remplacer par un caractère qui n'est pas présent dans latin-1, et pour lequel il faut utiliser un encodage basé sur Unicode (UTF-8 ou autre chose), ou l'encodage Windows-1252 qui est une extension de latin-1. Ce qu'il se passe, c'est que quand vous tapez une apostrophe toute bête sous Office, c'est ce caractère Unicode qui est inséré, et vous n'y pouvez en gros rien (en tout cas je ne sais pas comment y remédier). Cela marche-t-il mieux si vous sauvegardez le document au codage Windows-1252 (vous pouvez aussi le trouver sous le nom cp1252, ou « Windows Latin 1 »), et que utilisez le paquet inputenc avec l'option cp1252, au lieu de latin1 ? From - Tue Dec 12 16:24:20 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from delphi.phys.univ-tours.fr (delphi.phys.univ-tours.fr [193.52.212.3]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBCFOAmK066776 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:24:15 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [10.65.8.21] (vega-2 [10.65.8.21]) by delphi.phys.univ-tours.fr (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA12835 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:24:10 +0100 (MET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <457EC7DC.3060601@geo.hmg.inpg.fr> References: <80C8FAB8-F6BF-487B-80C4-6C996919E7D7@wanadoo.fr> <20061212121704.127b13d7@localhost> <6D302E69-B326-49D4-8945-B9DDFB426946@wanadoo.fr> <457EC368.60502@geo.hmg.inpg.fr> <457EC7DC.3060601@geo.hmg.inpg.fr> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-798772192 Message-Id: <33636F97-5C7B-4168-B4B3-9414E7638F7B@delphi.phys.univ-tours.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Herv=E9_CHOPLIN?= Subject: Re: [gut] en marge de latex: gnumeric Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:24:09 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:24:16 +0100 (CET) --Apple-Mail-1-798772192 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable J'ai la distribution de G. 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Cf. par exemple pages 79 et 80 de : >>>>> >>>> >>>> Bon, voyons un peu. J'ai lu votre document que j'ai trouv=E9 tr=E8s=20= =20 >>>> interessant. >>>> J'ai charg=E9 calc2latex. >>>> J'ai suivi les instructions et j'ai ma macro. >>>> Je prends un tableau qui tra=EEne sur le bureau. >>>> J'en s=E9lecte un morceau >>>> J'applique la macro (j'ai mis un moment pour comprendre que=20=20 >>>> c'=E9tait "main" qu'il fallait appliquer) >>>> J'obtiens, splendide, un petit morceau de table qui me convient=20=20 >>>> parfaitement. >>>> >>>> VOIRE!! >>>> Je cr=E9e un petit document minimum (je pense qu'il y a ce qu'il=20=20 >>>> faut): >>> Bonjour >>> Il faudrait que vous donniez l'ent=EAte de votre document, car chez=20= =20 >>> moi, le copier coller fonctionne tr=E8s bien. Et la compilation=20=20 >>> marche aussi. >>> Donnez le type d'=E9diteur, environnement pc ou mac,=20=20 >>> distribution...etc que vous utilisez >>> >>> Xavier roguiez >>> >> >> >> En-t=EAte: Je ne comprends pas. Si ce sont les lignes du haut: >> >> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% >> \listfiles >> \documentclass[a4paper,12pt%,draft >> ]{article} >> %\usepackage[french]{babel} >> \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc} >> %\usepackage[T1]{fontenc} >> %\usepackage[cyr]{aeguill} >> \usepackage[francais]{babel} >> >> \begin{document} >> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% >> >> Je travaille avec Mac, OS X.4.8 >> Mon =E9diteur est emacs >> Distribution ? J'ignore. J'ai chang=E9, l'actuelle a =E9t=E9 install=E9e= =20=20 >> par fink (dans /sw) et je pense que c'est donc tetex. (Une texlive=20=20 >> doit encore tra=EEner dans /usr) >> Depuis, j'ai essay=E9 avec un autre exemple. Merde =E9galement. >> >> Saut >> Jacques Vernin >> >> >> >> > Sous windows votre fichier appara=EEt avec des tas de 0 entre toutes=20= =20 > les lettres, > Je pense que cela vient de votre copier coller, mais en v=E9rifiant=20=20 > cela vient du copier coller. > Avez vous tenter de copier coller d'un =E9diteur diff=E9rent une phrase= =20=20 > quelconque et la compiler sous latex ensuite. Avez vous le m=EAme=20=20 > probl=E8me ? > > Bon courage > xavier roguiez > --Apple-Mail-1-798772192-- From - Tue Dec 12 16:26:22 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.186]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBCFQAV4068774 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:26:15 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p48so234473nfa for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 07:26:10 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:from; b=PrfO2gLoIn+/2M2rZj/i8VQcl3UY+/cp2aH1aCwtoKZw3fGb7KYyoJpMPiGL6oERlJpdC4mg+XiJWch2uXDtbaMNVd/qGRmgDieQLlEMGlSm86oBa+qyzilSs4RCkGKMbWFwGaKCpUMj8WkZTYGS0/DLj509lQN9WcJ518pO1Fk= Received: by 10.49.41.3 with SMTP id t3mr1467718nfj.1165937170021; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 07:26:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [86.212.96.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id l22sm3386521nfc.2006.12.12.07.26.08; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 07:26:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <457ECA10.20104@ens.fr> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:26:08 +0100 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061115) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] en marge de latex: gnumeric References: <80C8FAB8-F6BF-487B-80C4-6C996919E7D7@wanadoo.fr> <20061212121704.127b13d7@localhost> <6D302E69-B326-49D4-8945-B9DDFB426946@wanadoo.fr> <20061212150205.GB10795@clipper.ens.fr> <20061212152018.GC10795@clipper.ens.fr> In-Reply-To: <20061212152018.GC10795@clipper.ens.fr> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010408060300050702020700" From: sebastien.gautrin@gmail.com X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:26:15 +0100 (CET) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010408060300050702020700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Si ça peut aider à comprendre ce qu'il se passe, j'ai testé le fichier tex de pir2, et il compile sans trop de problème, avec le résultat en pièce jointe (soit uniquement un problème d'affichage sur l'apostrophe en question, remplacée par un point d'interrogation. Le log est join également. Pour info, je suis sous Ubuntu avec Tetex et TexMaker. Arthur Reutenauer wrote: >> Est-ce que vous pourriez envoyer les fichiers incriminés >> > > Excusez-moi, je n'avais pas vu que vous les aviez effectivement > attachés... > > C'est bien de l'UCS-2 litte-endian, et le problème est bien > l'apostrophe qui n'est pas une apostrophe ASCII, mais l'une des > apostrophes « plus jolie » d'Unicode (U+2019 GUILLEMET-APOSTROPHE). Cela > fait en effet un certain temps que Microsoft a décidé que l'apostrophe > standard n'était pas convenable, et qu'il fallait la remplacer par un > caractère qui n'est pas présent dans latin-1, et pour lequel il faut > utiliser un encodage basé sur Unicode (UTF-8 ou autre chose), ou > l'encodage Windows-1252 qui est une extension de latin-1. > > Ce qu'il se passe, c'est que quand vous tapez une apostrophe toute bête > sous Office, c'est ce caractère Unicode qui est inséré, et vous n'y > pouvez en gros rien (en tout cas je ne sais pas comment y remédier). > > Cela marche-t-il mieux si vous sauvegardez le document au codage > Windows-1252 (vous pouvez aussi le trouver sous le nom cp1252, ou > « Windows Latin 1 »), et que utilisez le paquet inputenc avec l'option > cp1252, au lieu de latin1 ? > > --------------010408060300050702020700 Content-Type: text/x-log; name="exco.log" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="exco.log" This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4) (format=pdflatex 2006.12.11) 12 DEC 2006 16:21 entering extended mode **exco.tex (./exco.tex LaTeX2e <2003/12/01> Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman, b ahasa, basque, bulgarian, catalan, croatian, czech, danish, dutch, esperanto, e stonian, finnish, greek, icelandic, irish, italian, latin, magyar, norsk, polis h, portuges, romanian, russian, serbian, slovak, slovene, spanish, swedish, tur kish, ukrainian, nohyphenation, loaded. 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From - Tue Dec 12 16:35:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from clipper.ens.fr (clipper-gw.ens.fr [129.199.1.22]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBCFZdgi077453 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:35:39 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from bireme.ens.fr (root@bireme [129.199.129.2]) by clipper.ens.fr (8.13.1/jb-1.1) id kBCFZcBN020260 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:35:38 +0100 (MET) Received: from (reutenau@localhost) by bireme.ens.fr (8.13.6/jb-1.1) Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:35:38 +0100 From: Arthur Reutenauer To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] en marge de latex: gnumeric Message-ID: <20061212153538.GD10795@clipper.ens.fr> Reply-To: gut@ens.fr References: <80C8FAB8-F6BF-487B-80C4-6C996919E7D7@wanadoo.fr> <20061212121704.127b13d7@localhost> <6D302E69-B326-49D4-8945-B9DDFB426946@wanadoo.fr> <20061212150205.GB10795@clipper.ens.fr> <20061212152018.GC10795@clipper.ens.fr> <457ECA10.20104@ens.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <457ECA10.20104@ens.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:35:40 +0100 (CET) > Si ça peut aider à comprendre ce qu'il se passe, j'ai testé le fichier > tex de pir2, et il compile sans trop de problème J'imagine que TeXMaker l'a recodé quand vous l'avez ouvert dans l'éditeur. C'est ce que vous avez fait, vous n'avez pas directement tapé « latex exco » dans un terminal, n'est-ce pas ? 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le=20= =20 > r=C3=A9sultat en pi=C3=A8ce jointe (soit uniquement un probl=C3=A8me d'af= fichage=20=20 > sur l'apostrophe en question, remplac=C3=A9e par un point=20=20 > d'interrogation. Le log est join =C3=A9galement. > > Pour info, je suis sous Ubuntu avec Tetex et TexMaker. > > > Arthur Reutenauer wrote: >>> Est-ce que vous pourriez envoyer les fichiers incrimin=C3=A9s >>> >> >> Excusez-moi, je n'avais pas vu que vous les aviez effectivement >> attach=C3=A9s... >> >> C'est bien de l'UCS-2 litte-endian, et le probl=C3=A8me est bien >> l'apostrophe qui n'est pas une apostrophe ASCII, mais l'une des >> apostrophes =C2=AB=E2=80=AFplus jolie=E2=80=AF=C2=BB d'Unicode (U+2019 G= UILLEMET-=20 >> APOSTROPHE). Cela >> fait en effet un certain temps que Microsoft a d=C3=A9cid=C3=A9 que=20= =20 >> l'apostrophe >> standard n'=C3=A9tait pas convenable, et qu'il fallait la remplacer par= =20=20 >> un >> caract=C3=A8re qui n'est pas pr=C3=A9sent dans latin-1, et pour lequel i= l=20=20 >> faut >> utiliser un encodage bas=C3=A9 sur Unicode (UTF-8 ou autre chose), ou >> l'encodage Windows-1252 qui est une extension de latin-1. >> >> Ce qu'il se passe, c'est que quand vous tapez une apostrophe=20=20 >> toute b=C3=AAte >> sous Office, c'est ce caract=C3=A8re Unicode qui est ins=C3=A9r=C3=A9, e= t vous=20=20 >> n'y >> pouvez en gros rien (en tout cas je ne sais pas comment y rem=C3=A9dier). >> >> Cela marche-t-il mieux si vous sauvegardez le document au codage >> Windows-1252 (vous pouvez aussi le trouver sous le nom cp1252, ou >> =C2=AB=E2=80=AFWindows Latin 1=E2=80=AF=C2=BB), et que utilisez le paque= t inputenc avec=20=20 >> l'option >> cp1252, au lieu de latin1=E2=80=AF? >> >> > > This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4)=20=20 > (format=3Dpdflatex 2006.12.11) 12 DEC 2006 16:21 > entering extended mode > **exco.tex > (./exco.tex > LaTeX2e <2003/12/01> > Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french,=20=20 > german, ngerman, b > ahasa, basque, bulgarian, catalan, croatian, czech, danish, dutch,=20=20 > esperanto, e > stonian, finnish, greek, icelandic, irish, italian, latin, magyar,=20=20 > norsk, polis > h, portuges, romanian, russian, serbian, slovak, slovene, spanish,=20=20 > swedish, tur > kish, ukrainian, nohyphenation, loaded. > (/usr/share/texmf-tetex/tex/latex/base/article.cls > Document Class: article 2004/02/16 v1.4f Standard LaTeX document class > (/usr/share/texmf-tetex/tex/latex/base/size12.clo > File: size12.clo 2004/02/16 v1.4f Standard LaTeX file (size option) > ) > \c@part=3D\count79 > \c@section=3D\count80 > \c@subsection=3D\count81 > \c@subsubsection=3D\count82 > \c@paragraph=3D\count83 > \c@subparagraph=3D\count84 > \c@figure=3D\count85 > \c@table=3D\count86 > \abovecaptionskip=3D\skip41 > \belowcaptionskip=3D\skip42 > \bibindent=3D\dimen102 > ) > (/usr/share/texmf-tetex/tex/latex/base/inputenc.sty > Package: inputenc 2004/02/05 v1.0d Input encoding file > > (/usr/share/texmf-tetex/tex/latex/base/latin1.def > File: latin1.def 2004/02/05 v1.0d Input encoding file > )) > (/usr/share/texmf-tetex/tex/generic/babel/babel.sty > Package: babel 2004/11/20 v3.8d The Babel package > > (/usr/share/texmf-tetex/tex/generic/babel/frenchb.ldf > Language: french 2004/04/02 v1.6f French support from the babel system > > (/usr/share/texmf-tetex/tex/generic/babel/babel.def > File: babel.def 2004/11/20 v3.8d Babel common definitions > \babel@savecnt=3D\count87 > \U@D=3D\dimen103 > ) > Package babel Info: Making : an active character on input line 219. > Package babel Info: Making ; an active character on input line 220. > Package babel Info: Making ! an active character on input line 221. > Package babel Info: Making ? an active character on input line 222. > LaTeX Font Info: Redeclaring font encoding T1 on input line 299. > \parindentFFN=3D\dimen104 > \std@mcc=3D\count88 > \dec@mcc=3D\count89 > > ************************************* > * Local config file frenchb.cfg used > * > (/usr/share/texmf-tetex/tex/generic/babel/frenchb.cfg))) (./exco.aux) > \openout1 =3D `exco.aux'. > > LaTeX Font Info: Checking defaults for OML/cmm/m/it on input=20=20 > line 12. > LaTeX Font Info: ... okay on input line 12. > LaTeX Font Info: Checking defaults for T1/lmr/m/n on input line 12. > LaTeX Font Info: Try loading font information for T1+lmr on=20=20 > input line 12. > > (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/lm/t1lmr.fd > File: t1lmr.fd 2006/04/24 v1.2 Font defs for Latin Modern > ) > LaTeX Font Info: ... okay on input line 12. > LaTeX Font Info: Checking defaults for OT1/cmr/m/n on input line=20=20 > 12. > LaTeX Font Info: ... okay on input line 12. > LaTeX Font Info: Checking defaults for OMS/cmsy/m/n on input=20=20 > line 12. > LaTeX Font Info: ... okay on input line 12. > LaTeX Font Info: Checking defaults for OMX/cmex/m/n on input=20=20 > line 12. > LaTeX Font Info: ... okay on input line 12. > LaTeX Font Info: Checking defaults for U/cmr/m/n on input line 12. > LaTeX Font Info: ... okay on input line 12. > LaTeX Info: Redefining \dots on input line 12. > LaTeX Font Info: External font `cmex10' loaded for size > (Font) <12> on input line 15. > LaTeX Font Info: External font `cmex10' loaded for size > (Font) <8> on input line 15. > LaTeX Font Info: External font `cmex10' loaded for size > (Font) <6> on input line 15. > > Overfull \hbox (25.32292pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 15--26 > [][] > [] > > [1 > > {/var/lib/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map}] (./exco.aux) > > *File List* > article.cls 2004/02/16 v1.4f Standard LaTeX document class > size12.clo 2004/02/16 v1.4f Standard LaTeX file (size option) > inputenc.sty 2004/02/05 v1.0d Input encoding file > latin1.def 2004/02/05 v1.0d Input encoding file > babel.sty 2004/11/20 v3.8d The Babel package > frenchb.ldf > frenchb.cfg > t1lmr.fd 2006/04/24 v1.2 Font defs for Latin Modern > *********** > > ) > Here is how much of TeX's memory you used: > 850 strings out of 94500 > 10421 string characters out of 1175787 > 64176 words of memory out of 1000000 > 4072 multiletter control sequences out of 10000+50000 > 6677 words of font info for 24 fonts, out of 500000 for 2000 > 580 hyphenation exceptions out of 8191 > 24i,7n,24p,159b,192s stack positions out of 1500i,500n,5000p,=20 > 200000b,5000s > PDF statistics: > 10 PDF objects out of 300000 > 0 named destinations out of 131072 > 1 words of extra memory for PDF output out of 65536 > share/texmf-te > tex/fonts/type1/bluesky/cm/cmcsc10.pfb> > Output written on exco.pdf (1 page, 14207 bytes). > --Apple-Mail-2-799541509-- From - Tue Dec 12 16:38:43 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBCFcY6n080201 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:38:39 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p48so237506nfa for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 07:38:34 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; b=dnHPwJdW/wwggNXqopLybCYhY0TdiMLtME/MND/gaU+/La15HjRge3u2qDh8B0clnROTlOd9REQyhRkYB7gOHYjr+y/t5AQL72ORbuUrE93uBHmMcSBdHqQCeqX/bf63iXGxOm8n0q2aMrlRBT4xlHwxFZqset41mcP4xYaxHOI= Received: by 10.48.220.15 with SMTP id s15mr1521893nfg.1165937913956; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 07:38:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.0.100? ( [86.212.96.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id l27sm3408943nfa.2006.12.12.07.38.33; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 07:38:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <457ECCF8.30705@ens.fr> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:38:32 +0100 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061115) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] en marge de latex: gnumeric References: <80C8FAB8-F6BF-487B-80C4-6C996919E7D7@wanadoo.fr> <20061212121704.127b13d7@localhost> <6D302E69-B326-49D4-8945-B9DDFB426946@wanadoo.fr> <20061212150205.GB10795@clipper.ens.fr> <20061212152018.GC10795@clipper.ens.fr> <457ECA10.20104@ens.fr> <20061212153538.GD10795@clipper.ens.fr> In-Reply-To: <20061212153538.GD10795@clipper.ens.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: sebastien.gautrin@gmail.com X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:38:39 +0100 (CET) Exactement, je l'ai ouvert directement avec TexMaker. Arthur Reutenauer wrote: >> Si ça peut aider à comprendre ce qu'il se passe, j'ai testé le fichier >> tex de pir2, et il compile sans trop de problème >> > > J'imagine que TeXMaker l'a recodé quand vous l'avez ouvert dans > l'éditeur. C'est ce que vous avez fait, vous n'avez pas directement tapé > « latex exco » dans un terminal, n'est-ce pas ? > > From - Tue Dec 12 16:44:23 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp4.orange.fr (smtp4.orange.fr [193.252.22.27]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBCFiFXK085442 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:44:15 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [90.9.198.115] (AMarseille-256-1-87-115.w90-9.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.9.198.115]) by mwinf0403.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8E1C41C00351 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:44:12 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061212154412582.8E1C41C00351@mwinf0403.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <457ECCF8.30705@ens.fr> References: <80C8FAB8-F6BF-487B-80C4-6C996919E7D7@wanadoo.fr> <20061212121704.127b13d7@localhost> <6D302E69-B326-49D4-8945-B9DDFB426946@wanadoo.fr> <20061212150205.GB10795@clipper.ens.fr> <20061212152018.GC10795@clipper.ens.fr> <457ECA10.20104@ens.fr> <20061212153538.GD10795@clipper.ens.fr> <457ECCF8.30705@ens.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <488B99A8-FF54-42A0-83F1-4CECA2456206@wanadoo.fr> From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: [gut] en marge de latex: gnumeric Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:44:10 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:44:15 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBCFiFXK085442 Qu'est Texmaker ? un éditeur ? Le 12 déc. 06 à 16:38, sebastien.gautrin@gmail.com a écrit : > Exactement, je l'ai ouvert directement avec TexMaker. > > Arthur Reutenauer wrote: >>> Si ça peut aider à comprendre ce qu'il se passe, j'ai testé le >>> fichier tex de pir2, et il compile sans trop de problème >>> >> >> J'imagine que TeXMaker l'a recodé quand vous l'avez ouvert dans >> l'éditeur. C'est ce que vous avez fait, vous n'avez pas >> directement tapé >> « latex exco » dans un terminal, n'est-ce pas ? >> >> > > Jacques Vernin From - Tue Dec 12 16:56:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp21.orange.fr (smtp21.orange.fr [80.12.242.49] (may be forged)) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBCFuQ4L097619 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:56:31 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [90.9.198.115] (AMarseille-256-1-87-115.w90-9.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.9.198.115]) by mwinf2119.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3B3DC1C00195 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:56:26 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061212155626242.3B3DC1C00195@mwinf2119.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20061212150205.GB10795@clipper.ens.fr> References: <80C8FAB8-F6BF-487B-80C4-6C996919E7D7@wanadoo.fr> <20061212121704.127b13d7@localhost> <6D302E69-B326-49D4-8945-B9DDFB426946@wanadoo.fr> <20061212150205.GB10795@clipper.ens.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: [gut] en marge de latex: gnumeric Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:56:24 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:56:31 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBCFuQ4L097619 Là, bravo au spécialiste. J'enlève l'apostrophe et le miracle survient. Bravo. Mais je vais faire d'autres essais pour voir si les miracles sont fidèles!. Merci et salut Le 12 déc. 06 à 16:02, Arthur Reutenauer a écrit : >> Résultat: >> l.1 ? >> ? ^^@ ^^@ ^^@ > > À vue de nez, ça peut être de l'UCS-2 ; mais c'est assez > difficile > à dire hors contexte. > > Est-ce que vous pourriez envoyer les fichiers incriminés (ou > mettre un > lien vers une page Web si c'est trop gros, pas la peine de tout > envoyer à > toute la liste) ? Mettez un exemple de ce qui marche chez vous, ce > qui ne > marche pas, et (au moins) les log que vous obtenez ; > éventuellement les > dvi aussi. > >> çà merde quand j'ajoute la lignes: >> Articles d’habillement et chaussures & 9,7 & 8,1 & 6,1 & 5,4 & 4 \ >> \ \hline >> qui ne me paraît pas horrible. > > C'est l'apostrophe... > > Arthur > Jacques Vernin From - Tue Dec 12 17:23:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp23.orange.fr (smtp23.orange.fr [193.252.23.111]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBCGNUTB023126 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:23:30 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [90.9.198.115] (AMarseille-256-1-87-115.w90-9.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.9.198.115]) by mwinf2311.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D1CE4700008D for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:23:29 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061212162329859.D1CE4700008D@mwinf2311.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20061212152018.GC10795@clipper.ens.fr> References: <80C8FAB8-F6BF-487B-80C4-6C996919E7D7@wanadoo.fr> <20061212121704.127b13d7@localhost> <6D302E69-B326-49D4-8945-B9DDFB426946@wanadoo.fr> <20061212150205.GB10795@clipper.ens.fr> <20061212152018.GC10795@clipper.ens.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: [gut] en marge de latex: gnumeric Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:23:27 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:23:30 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBCGNUTB023126 Le 12 déc. 06 à 16:20, Arthur Reutenauer a écrit : >> Est-ce que vous pourriez envoyer les fichiers incriminés > > Excusez-moi, je n'avais pas vu que vous les aviez effectivement > attachés... > > C'est bien de l'UCS-2 litte-endian, Où voyez-vous cela ? > et le problème est bien > l'apostrophe qui n'est pas une apostrophe ASCII, mais l'une des > apostrophes « plus jolie » d'Unicode (U+2019 GUILLEMET- > APOSTROPHE). Cela > fait en effet un certain temps que Microsoft a décidé que > l'apostrophe > standard n'était pas convenable, et qu'il fallait la remplacer par un > caractère qui n'est pas présent dans latin-1, et pour lequel il faut > utiliser un encodage basé sur Unicode (UTF-8 ou autre chose), ou > l'encodage Windows-1252 qui est une extension de latin-1. > > Ce qu'il se passe, c'est que quand vous tapez une apostrophe > toute bête > sous Office, c'est ce caractère Unicode qui est inséré, et vous n'y > pouvez en gros rien (en tout cas je ne sais pas comment y remédier). > > Cela marche-t-il mieux si vous sauvegardez le document au codage > Windows-1252 Je ne peux pas faire cela sous open office > (vous pouvez aussi le trouver sous le nom cp1252, ou > « Windows Latin 1 »), et que utilisez le paquet inputenc avec > l'option > cp1252, au lieu de latin1 ? > Mais, çà y est. Je viens de trouver. Je mets iso 8859-1 dans mes préférences d'open office. Et tout marche. Seulement, je trouve un "?" à la place de l'apostrophe. Merci pour le temps que vous m'avez consacré. Jacques Vernin From - Tue Dec 12 17:28:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp23.orange.fr (smtp23.orange.fr [193.252.23.111]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBCGSVd2027917 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:28:31 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [90.9.198.115] (AMarseille-256-1-87-115.w90-9.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.9.198.115]) by mwinf2311.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4B3D9700008D for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:28:31 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061212162831308.4B3D9700008D@mwinf2311.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <457ECA10.20104@ens.fr> References: <80C8FAB8-F6BF-487B-80C4-6C996919E7D7@wanadoo.fr> <20061212121704.127b13d7@localhost> <6D302E69-B326-49D4-8945-B9DDFB426946@wanadoo.fr> <20061212150205.GB10795@clipper.ens.fr> <20061212152018.GC10795@clipper.ens.fr> <457ECA10.20104@ens.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <28DC452F-7A34-4CE3-B5C1-217039C75183@wanadoo.fr> From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: [gut] en marge de latex: gnumeric Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:28:29 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 12 Dec 2006 17:28:31 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBCGSVd2027917 Il y a deux problèmes distincts: - celui de la compilation de mon fichier. Vous y arrivez; je n'y arrive pas - celui de l'obtention du fichier. Je viens de trouver. Je mets iso 8859-1 dans mes préférences d'open office. Et tout marche. Seulement, je trouve un "?" à la place de l'apostrophe. Comme vous. Pour être vertueux, il faudrait résoudre le premier problème. Mais comme j'ai la solution, je vais sauter par dessus. Merci pour votre aide. JV From - Tue Dec 12 18:33:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr (smtp19.orange.fr [80.12.242.1]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBCHXihe093220 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 18:33:49 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [90.9.198.115] (AMarseille-256-1-87-115.w90-9.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.9.198.115]) by mwinf1928.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 928981C0008B for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 18:33:41 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061212173341600.928981C0008B@mwinf1928.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <3A5F3B05-6BB9-4E7F-87CC-F21639AD5A32@delphi.phys.univ-tours.fr> References: <80C8FAB8-F6BF-487B-80C4-6C996919E7D7@wanadoo.fr> <20061212121704.127b13d7@localhost> <6D302E69-B326-49D4-8945-B9DDFB426946@wanadoo.fr> 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16:36, Herv=C3=A9 CHOPLIN a =C3=A9crit : > Si je remplace \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc} par > \usepackage[applemac]{inputenc} > j'ai bien l'apostrophe > > > > Herv=C3=A9 CHOPLIN > Universit=C3=A9 Fran=C3=A7ois Rabelais - UFR Sciences et Techniques > Parc Grandmont 37200 TOURS France > T=C3=A9l: +33 247367343 > e-mail: choplin@delphi.phys.univ-tours.fr - AIM/iChat: choplinnts > > > Le 12 d=C3=A9c. 06 =C3=A0 16:26, sebastien.gautrin@gmail.com a =C3=A9crit= : > >> Si =C3=A7a peut aider =C3=A0 comprendre ce qu'il se passe, j'ai test=C3= =A9 le=20=20 >> fichier tex de pir2, et il compile sans trop de probl=C3=A8me, avec le= =20=20 >> r=C3=A9sultat en pi=C3=A8ce jointe (soit uniquement un probl=C3=A8me=20= =20 >> d'affichage sur l'apostrophe en question, remplac=C3=A9e par un point=20= =20 >> d'interrogation. Le log est join =C3=A9galement. >> >> Pour info, je suis sous Ubuntu avec Tetex et TexMaker. >> >> >> Arthur Reutenauer wrote: >>>> Est-ce que vous pourriez envoyer les fichiers incrimin=C3=A9s >>>> >>> >>> Excusez-moi, je n'avais pas vu que vous les aviez effectivement >>> attach=C3=A9s... >>> >>> C'est bien de l'UCS-2 litte-endian, et le probl=C3=A8me est bien >>> l'apostrophe qui n'est pas une apostrophe ASCII, mais l'une des >>> apostrophes =C2=AB=E2=80=AFplus jolie=E2=80=AF=C2=BB d'Unicode (U+2019 = GUILLEMET-=20 >>> APOSTROPHE). Cela >>> fait en effet un certain temps que Microsoft a d=C3=A9cid=C3=A9 que=20= =20 >>> l'apostrophe >>> standard n'=C3=A9tait pas convenable, et qu'il fallait la remplacer=20= =20 >>> par un >>> caract=C3=A8re qui n'est pas pr=C3=A9sent dans latin-1, et pour lequel = il=20=20 >>> faut >>> utiliser un encodage bas=C3=A9 sur Unicode (UTF-8 ou autre chose), ou >>> l'encodage Windows-1252 qui est une extension de latin-1. >>> >>> Ce qu'il se passe, c'est que quand vous tapez une apostrophe=20=20 >>> toute b=C3=AAte >>> sous Office, c'est ce caract=C3=A8re Unicode qui est ins=C3=A9r=C3=A9, = et vous=20=20 >>> n'y >>> pouvez en gros rien (en tout cas je ne sais pas comment y=20=20 >>> rem=C3=A9dier). >>> >>> Cela marche-t-il mieux si vous sauvegardez le document au codage >>> Windows-1252 (vous pouvez aussi le trouver sous le nom cp1252, ou >>> =C2=AB=E2=80=AFWindows Latin 1=E2=80=AF=C2=BB), et que utilisez le paqu= et inputenc=20=20 >>> avec l'option >>> cp1252, au lieu de 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( [86.212.96.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id l32sm3945764nfa.2006.12.12.10.12.14; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:12:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <457EF0FC.2040704@ens.fr> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 19:12:12 +0100 User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061115) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] en marge de latex: gnumeric References: <80C8FAB8-F6BF-487B-80C4-6C996919E7D7@wanadoo.fr> <20061212121704.127b13d7@localhost> <6D302E69-B326-49D4-8945-B9DDFB426946@wanadoo.fr> <20061212150205.GB10795@clipper.ens.fr> <20061212152018.GC10795@clipper.ens.fr> <457ECA10.20104@ens.fr> <20061212153538.GD10795@clipper.ens.fr> <457ECCF8.30705@ens.fr> <488B99A8-FF54-42A0-83F1-4CECA2456206@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <488B99A8-FF54-42A0-83F1-4CECA2456206@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: sebastien.gautrin@gmail.com X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 12 Dec 2006 19:12:23 +0100 (CET) Texmaker est effectivement un éditeur pour LaTeX. D'habitude j'utilise Kile en fait sous Linux, mais les deux étant installés sur ma machine je n'avais pas configuré correctement alternatives et c'est texmaker qui a été pris par défaut lors de l'ouverture depuis la pièce jointe. http://www.xm1math.net/texmaker/index.html D'ailleurs en testant l'ouverture avec Kile, il me dit que c'est un fichier binaire, et lors de l'ouverture, le fichier commence par ÿþ et sur la suite un espace est inséré entre chaque caractère (je n'ai même pas essayé de le compiler tel quel). Comme disait Arthur Reutenauer, Texmaker avait donc visiblement automatiquement transcodé le fichier, ce que Kile ne fait pas, et qui n'est bien sûr pas fait lors d'un appel en ligne de commande. pir2.jv wrote: > Qu'est Texmaker ? un éditeur ? > > Le 12 déc. 06 à 16:38, sebastien.gautrin@gmail.com a écrit : > >> Exactement, je l'ai ouvert directement avec TexMaker. >> >> Arthur Reutenauer wrote: >>>> Si ça peut aider à comprendre ce qu'il se passe, j'ai testé le >>>> fichier tex de pir2, et il compile sans trop de problème >>>> >>> >>> J'imagine que TeXMaker l'a recodé quand vous l'avez ouvert dans >>> l'éditeur. C'est ce que vous avez fait, vous n'avez pas directement >>> tapé >>> « latex exco » dans un terminal, n'est-ce pas ? >>> >>> >> >> > > Jacques Vernin > > > > > From - Wed Dec 13 14:48:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp23.orange.fr (smtp23.orange.fr [193.252.23.111]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBDDmH3i021801 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:48:17 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2307.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 617DB1C0008C for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:48:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from [86.219.62.56] (AMarseille-256-1-15-56.w86-219.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.219.62.56]) by mwinf2307.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D89031C00088 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:48:16 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061213134816887.D89031C00088@mwinf2307.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <482A45C4-306A-4BF5-B198-3DA5AE124129@wanadoo.fr> References: <80C8FAB8-F6BF-487B-80C4-6C996919E7D7@wanadoo.fr> <20061212121704.127b13d7@localhost> <482A45C4-306A-4BF5-B198-3DA5AE124129@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <7B40D885-20E6-4ED6-9398-AE4F34B117E2@wanadoo.fr> From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: [gut] en marge de latex: gnumeric Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:48:14 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 13 Dec 2006 14:48:18 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBDDmH3i021801 Je tente de résumer les différents messages et les "conclusions" J'ai, en effet, installé calc2latex qui ne fait peut-être pas tout, mais que je trouve bien préférable à gnumeric qui me crache des tableaux qui sont peut-être mieux (à l'exception des packages ucs et utf8) mais qui sont illisibles et, par conséquent, difficilement modifiables. Merci donc. Mais j'ai eu (et j'ai) de multiples problèmes. Je vous les donne car ils vous intéressent peut-être: Je travaille sur Mac OS X.4.8. Mon éditeur est emacs. - D'abord, dans openoffice, il faut, je pense, modifier les préférences. Pour cela, aller dans " Outils, options, "chargement/ enregistrelment"" et on a un tableau avec "jeu de caractères" On choisit iso 8859-1. - On obtient un fichier truc.tex - Si je l'ouvre avec emacs, il est horrible et contient un paquet de caractères chinois. - Comme je n'ose pas l'intégrer, tel quel, dans un fichier de latex, je l'intègre par \input{truc}. Je compile ... et çà marche çà marche à peu près, les "é" deviennent des "E aigu", ... et les apostrophes des "?"; mais en gros, çà marche. Ce qui m'emmerde est de traîner des fichiers qui sont illisibles, même si leur compilation me donne, en gros, quelque chose d'acceptable. - Si j'ouvre truc.tex par texmaker, il n'y a que l'apostrophe qui disparaît. Si je compile un fichier réalisé avec texmaker et contenant mon \input{truc}, j'obtiens la même chose que lorsque j'ai fait pareil avec emacs. En conclusion, il faut que je fasse encore un effort, mais je ne sais foutre pas dans quelle direction. PS: Quand je travaille sur un tableau comportant des couleurs, calc2latex me les perd. Existe-t-il une macro qui me code, en plus, des trucs du genre \cellcolor, ... Meilleures salutations JV From - Mon Dec 18 01:20:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (smtp6-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.36]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBI0KFoi018467 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 01:20:20 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [192.168.0.2] (bob75-3-82-225-66-210.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.66.210]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D194843375 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 01:20:14 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) To: gut-ens Message-Id: <4869D98E-0A54-4103-A808-AF8ADF62254D@spim.jussieu.fr> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-10--884226608 From: Jean Charlet free Subject: Couvertures CD Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 01:25:34 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 18 Dec 2006 01:20:20 +0100 (CET) --Apple-Mail-10--884226608 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Bonsoir, Je cherche =E0 faire des couvertures de CD que j'ai grav=E9s (en tout=20=20 bien tout honneur :-)) Quand je fais une recherche sur CTAN de package permettant de faire=20=20 les couvertures, j'en trouve plusieurs. 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--Apple-Mail-10--884226608-- From - Mon Dec 18 12:01:38 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from rissala173.outgw.tn (rissala175.outgw.tn [193.95.17.175]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBIB1MqW053454 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:01:28 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtp.rnu.tn (smtp.rnu.tn [193.95.32.173]) Received: from localhost (smtp.rnu.tn [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.rnu.tn (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A3ECB38B for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:00:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.rnu.tn ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.rnu.tn [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10508-08 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:00:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.34.22] (unknown [196.203.125.90]) by smtp.rnu.tn (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA17ECB38A for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:00:01 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <458673E5.4040803@fss.rnu.tn> Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 11:56:37 +0100 From: Marouane Ben Miled User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7-1.4.1 (X11/20050929) X-Accept-Language: fr, en, ar MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: \renewcommand et varioref Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rnu.tn X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:01:30 +0100 (CET) Bonjour, que me voici étonné de découvrir que \renewcommand ne produit pas ce que j'attends, si je le mets dans le préambule: la compilation du fichier suivant donne : "de la présente page" \documentclass{article} \usepackage[french]{babel} \usepackage[french]{varioref} \renewcommand{\reftextcurrent}{xxxxxxxxxxxx×} \begin{document} %\renewcommand{\reftextcurrent}{xxxxxxxx×} \reftextcurrent \end{document} tandis que la compilation de ce fichier donne: "xxxxxxxx×" \documentclass{article} \usepackage[french]{babel} \usepackage[french]{varioref} %\renewcommand{\reftextcurrent}{xxxxxxxxxxxx×} \begin{document} \renewcommand{\reftextcurrent}{xxxxxxxx×} \reftextcurrent \end{document} qui m'éclairera, merci marouane From - Mon Dec 18 12:21:34 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr (amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.2.202]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBIBLO0G072139 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:21:24 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr (tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.18.74]) by amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7/Configured by JE 21 07 2006) with ESMTP id kBIBLOBG043442 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:21:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6E28198424 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:21:24 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Scanned on tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr Received: from tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Fd5xsB7iXEgY for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:21:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from tibre2.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre2.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.24.10]) by tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CFEC198421 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:21:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from euclide.ujf-grenoble.fr (euclide.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.48.255.207]) by tibre2.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id kBIBLOFZ011853 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:21:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from thierry.bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr) Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:21:16 +0100 From: Thierry Bouche Organization: Institut Fourier X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <449970931.20061218122116@ujf-grenoble.fr> To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] \renewcommand et varioref In-Reply-To: <458673E5.4040803@fss.rnu.tn> References: <458673E5.4040803@fss.rnu.tn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:21:25 +0100 (CET) M> qui m'éclairera, \DeclareOption{french} {\vref@addto\extrasfrench{% % ... \def\reftextcurrent {de la pr\'esente page}% % ... }} la première ligne ajoute les définitions qui suivent à la macro \extrasfrench la macro \extrasfrench est activée à chaque fois que babel passe à la langue de Molière. La bonne façon serait donc de charger varioref sans option, et de définir à la main les trucs voulus (ce qui revient à se faire sa propre option de langue) \documentclass{article} \usepackage[french]{babel} \usepackage{varioref} \renewcommand{\reftextcurrent}{xxxxxxxxxxxx×} \begin{document} \reftextcurrent \end{document} Ou sinon d'ajouter soi-même \makeatletter \vref@addto\extrasfrench{% \renewcommand{\reftextcurrent}{xxxxxxxxxxxx×} } \makeatother avant begin{document} ? parce que là, si vous sortez du français et le réactivez ensuite, vous allez découvrire que vous revenez au défaut de varioref ! Thierry From - Mon Dec 18 12:40:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from rissala173.outgw.tn (rissala175.outgw.tn [193.95.17.175]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBIBdrJs088979 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:39:58 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtp.rnu.tn (smtp.rnu.tn [193.95.32.173]) Received: from localhost (smtp.rnu.tn [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.rnu.tn (Postfix) with ESMTP id A759ECB38B for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:38:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.rnu.tn ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.rnu.tn [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10875-02 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:38:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.34.22] (unknown [196.203.125.90]) by smtp.rnu.tn (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B40CB384 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:38:30 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45867CE9.7020908@fss.rnu.tn> Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:35:05 +0100 From: Marouane Ben Miled User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7-1.4.1 (X11/20050929) X-Accept-Language: fr, en, ar MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] \renewcommand et varioref References: <458673E5.4040803@fss.rnu.tn> <449970931.20061218122116@ujf-grenoble.fr> In-Reply-To: <449970931.20061218122116@ujf-grenoble.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rnu.tn X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:39:59 +0100 (CET) merci pour cette savante explication. J'ai fait le plus simple, évidemment: Thierry Bouche wrote: >\documentclass{article} >\usepackage[french]{babel} >\usepackage{varioref} >\renewcommand{\reftextcurrent}{xxxxxxxxxxxx×} >\begin{document} >\reftextcurrent >\end{document} > > j'ai choisi la solution ci dessus, la plus simple. merci encore, marouane From - Mon Dec 18 12:55:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from rissala173.outgw.tn (rissala175.outgw.tn [193.95.17.175]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBIBstms002145 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:55:00 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtp.rnu.tn (smtp.rnu.tn [193.95.32.173]) Received: from localhost (smtp.rnu.tn [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.rnu.tn (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A97CB38B for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:53:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.rnu.tn ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.rnu.tn [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10846-09 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:53:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.34.22] (unknown [196.203.125.90]) by smtp.rnu.tn (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50CCCB384 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:53:30 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4586806E.7060402@fss.rnu.tn> Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:50:06 +0100 From: Marouane Ben Miled User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7-1.4.1 (X11/20050929) X-Accept-Language: fr, en, ar MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] \renewcommand et varioref References: <458673E5.4040803@fss.rnu.tn> <449970931.20061218122116@ujf-grenoble.fr> <45867CE9.7020908@fss.rnu.tn> In-Reply-To: <45867CE9.7020908@fss.rnu.tn> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at rnu.tn X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 18 Dec 2006 12:55:01 +0100 (CET) Marouane Ben Miled wrote: > merci pour cette savante explication. J'ai fait le plus simple, > évidemment: > > > Thierry Bouche wrote: > >> \documentclass{article} >> \usepackage[french]{babel} >> \usepackage{varioref} >> \renewcommand{\reftextcurrent}{xxxxxxxxxxxx×} >> \begin{document} >> \reftextcurrent >> \end{document} >> >> > j'ai choisi la solution ci dessus, la plus simple. > non, cette solution n'est pas bonne, car varioref n'est plus francisé. j'ai mis \usepackage[frech]{varioref} dans le préambule et j'ai placé \renewcommand{\reftextcurrent}{xxxxxxxxxxxx×} juste après \begin{document}, vu que mon document n'utilise que l'option frenh de babel. > merci encore, > marouane > From - Mon Dec 18 14:29:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from relay-am.club-internet.fr (relay-am.club-internet.fr [194.158.104.67]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBIDTkTj082782 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:29:52 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from rbastian (c01m-62-34-73-40.n.club-internet.fr [62.34.73.40]) by relay-am.club-internet.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 118D025644 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:29:45 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Ren=E9=20Bastian?= Organization: Ecchymoses To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Couvertures CD Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:26:36 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <4869D98E-0A54-4103-A808-AF8ADF62254D@spim.jussieu.fr> In-Reply-To: <4869D98E-0A54-4103-A808-AF8ADF62254D@spim.jussieu.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <06121814263600.00754@rbastian> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:29:53 +0100 (CET) Le Lundi 18 Décembre 2006 01:25, Jean Charlet free a écrit : > Bonsoir, > > Je cherche à faire des couvertures de CD que j'ai gravés (en tout > bien tout honneur :-)) > > Quand je fais une recherche sur CTAN de package permettant de faire > les couvertures, j'en trouve plusieurs. Au moins 4 et je n'ai pas fini. > > Avant d'étudier la chose de plus près, des utilisateurs peuvent-ils > me conseiller ? Quel est le meilleur package ? Question idiote peut- > être... :-) > > En tous cas, je cherche un package qui prenne en charge, le recto > comme le verso, tranche comprise. > > Si quelque personne expérimenté pouvait me donner quelques > indications je lui en serais reconnaissant. Je n'ai pas d'expérience, mais j'ai essayé - sans utiliser de paquetage cétanien - simplement avec ps-tricks (peut-être même en put PS - en évitant les mots accentués :-) ) Mais votre possible synthèse ou comparatif des paquetages m'intéresse. > > Cordialement, > > JC > > ,,,, > (o-o) > --------oOO-(_)-OOo------------------------------------------o0O-OOo---- > Jean Charlet URL : http://estime.spim.jussieu.fr/~jc > INSERM UMR_S729 Mél : Jean.Charlet@spim.jussieu.fr > 15, rue de l'École de Médecine Tél : +33/0 1 53 10 92 10 > 75006 Paris, France > Mission de recherche en > sciences et technologies de l'information en médecine : > DSI, Assistance publique - Hôpitaux de Paris > INSERM UMR_S 729, Centre des Cordeliers, Univ. Paris V/VI > ----------o0O-OOo------------------------------------------oOO-( )-OOo-- > (o-o) > ```` ---------------------------------------- Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="Pièces jointes : 1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: ---------------------------------------- -- René Bastian http://www.musiques-rb.org http://pythoneon.musiques-rb.org From - Mon Dec 18 14:56:29 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBIDuOPY007041 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:56:25 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from monaco.spim.jussieu.fr (monaco.spim.jussieu.fr [134.157.234.5]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.13.7/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id kBIDsSC8079577 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:56:24 +0100 (CET) X-Ids: 164 Received: from [134.157.234.100] ([134.157.234.100]) by monaco.spim.jussieu.fr with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:50:15 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <06121814263600.00754@rbastian> References: <4869D98E-0A54-4103-A808-AF8ADF62254D@spim.jussieu.fr> <06121814263600.00754@rbastian> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <632436C0-52B5-4E84-A1DF-8F06D341A74A@spim.jussieu.fr> From: Jean Charlet Subject: Re: [gut] Couvertures CD Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:56:37 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Dec 2006 13:50:15.0991 (UTC) FILETIME=[728C7C70:01C722AB] X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:56:25 +0100 (CET) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.164]); Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:56:24 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.5/2354/Mon Dec 18 09:50:31 2006 on shiva.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBIDuOPY007041 Le 18 déc. 06 à 14:26, René Bastian a écrit : > Le Lundi 18 Décembre 2006 01:25, Jean Charlet free a écrit : >> Bonsoir, >> >> Je cherche à faire des couvertures de CD que j'ai gravés (en tout >> bien tout honneur :-)) >> >> Quand je fais une recherche sur CTAN de package permettant de faire >> les couvertures, j'en trouve plusieurs. Au moins 4 et je n'ai pas >> fini. >> >> Avant d'étudier la chose de plus près, des utilisateurs peuvent-ils >> me conseiller ? Quel est le meilleur package ? Question idiote peut- >> être... :-) >> >> En tous cas, je cherche un package qui prenne en charge, le recto >> comme le verso, tranche comprise. >> >> Si quelque personne expérimenté pouvait me donner quelques >> indications je lui en serais reconnaissant. > > Je n'ai pas d'expérience, mais j'ai essayé - sans utiliser de > paquetage cétanien - simplement avec ps-tricks (peut-être même > en put PS - en évitant les mots accentués :-) ) Je crois que je veux pouvoir utiliser des mots accentués pour les chansons françaises... C'est comme les majuscules non accentuées, ça pose parfois des problèmes de compréhension (pour réactiver - non, non, c'est pour rire - de sempiternelles discussions d'une autre liste pour ceux, et ils sont nombreux, qui sont sur GUT et TYPOGRAPHIE :-)) J'ai eu des réponses persos : je vais tester et j'enverrai un message de synthèse ensuite. ,,,, (o-o) --------oOO-(_)-OOo------------------------------------------o0O-OOo---- Jean Charlet URL : http://estime.spim.jussieu.fr/~jc INSERM UMR_S729 Mél : Jean.Charlet@spim.jussieu.fr 15, rue de l'École de Médecine Tél : +33/0 1 53 10 92 10 75006 Paris, France Mission de recherche en sciences et technologies de l'information en médecine : DSI, Assistance publique - Hôpitaux de Paris INSERM UMR_S 729, Centre des Cordeliers, Univ. Paris V/VI ----------o0O-OOo------------------------------------------oOO-( )-OOo-- (o-o) ```` From - Mon Dec 18 16:53:51 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr (smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr [193.252.23.120] (may be forged)) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBIFrg8P019405 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:53:43 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0114.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D12DF700008F for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:53:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (ALille-257-1-107-28.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.207.50.28]) by mwinf0114.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 90D0F700008A for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:53:42 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061218155342593.90D0F700008A@mwinf0114.orange.fr X-ME-User-Auth: dbitouze Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:54:11 +0100 From: Denis =?ISO-8859-1?B?Qml0b3V66Q==?= To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Couvertures CD Message-ID: <20061218165411.6cff8cba@localhost> In-Reply-To: <4869D98E-0A54-4103-A808-AF8ADF62254D@spim.jussieu.fr> References: <4869D98E-0A54-4103-A808-AF8ADF62254D@spim.jussieu.fr> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.3; i586-mandriva-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:53:43 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBIFrg8P019405 Le Mon, 18 Dec 2006 01:25:34 +0100 Jean Charlet free a écrit : > Avant d'étudier la chose de plus près, des utilisateurs peuvent-ils > me conseiller ? Quel est le meilleur package ? Question idiote peut- > être... :-) Je ne réponds pas vraiment mais je me sers parfois (pour des CD que j'ai *achetés* et que je grave pour écouter en voiture : j'en profite tant qu'on en a encore le droit !) du site : http://jvhemert.cjb.net/disc-cover -- Denis From - Mon Dec 18 16:57:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from thetis.univ-poitiers.fr (thetis.univ-poitiers.fr [195.220.223.1]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBIFvKfm022592 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:57:25 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from goldorak.univ-poitiers.fr (goldorak1.campus.univ-poitiers.fr [195.83.66.1]) by thetis.univ-poitiers.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B282845095 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:57:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from lapmhcap.mshs.univ-poitiers.fr (lapmhcap.mshs.univ-poitiers.fr [195.220.222.203]) by goldorak.univ-poitiers.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDAB917A64 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:57:16 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Camille-Aim=E9_Possama=EF?= Organization: =?utf-8?q?Universit=C3=A9_de?= Poitiers To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Couvertures CD Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:57:22 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <4869D98E-0A54-4103-A808-AF8ADF62254D@spim.jussieu.fr> <20061218165411.6cff8cba@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20061218165411.6cff8cba@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200612181657.22828.Camille-Aime.Possamai@mshs.univ-poitiers.fr> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at univ-poitiers.fr X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:57:28 +0100 (CET) Le lundi 18 décembre 2006 16:54, Denis Bitouzé a écrit : > Le Mon, 18 Dec 2006 01:25:34 +0100 > > Jean Charlet free a écrit : > > Avant d'étudier la chose de plus près, des utilisateurs peuvent-ils > > me conseiller ? Quel est le meilleur package ? Question idiote peut- > > être... :-) > > Je ne réponds pas vraiment mais je me sers parfois (pour des CD que > j'ai *achetés* et que je grave pour écouter en voiture : j'en profite > tant qu'on en a encore le droit !) du site : > > http://jvhemert.cjb.net/disc-cover Not Found The requested URL /disc-cover/ was not found on this server. Petite erreur d'adresse peut-être ! Ou elle a disparu. A+, --Camille From - Mon Dec 18 17:06:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBIG5q88029947 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:05:57 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 32so1309231ugm for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 08:05:52 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MczE0BhDQnG6Wtrt82asLUhYRrFfQivcViY5BhWG2MhBNeY63D8c+ExEEXK3YVk2SVR3YSjZ7cPh5PfZVWNYhp4lqAUDDG/FDa/tebTKgGe5Mr0ivSNG9RFYklU6qqggsVFJMzBh5OFIpD1GIDCwB17LuM8ZfRs6RwINyVorGBg= Received: by 10.67.97.7 with SMTP id z7mr5273513ugl.1166457951600; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 08:05:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? ( [84.102.172.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id q40sm9368355ugc.2006.12.18.08.05.49; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 08:05:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4586BC5A.8030106@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:05:46 +0100 From: Alban User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (Windows/20061025) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Couvertures CD References: <4869D98E-0A54-4103-A808-AF8ADF62254D@spim.jussieu.fr> <20061218165411.6cff8cba@localhost> <200612181657.22828.Camille-Aime.Possamai@mshs.univ-poitiers.fr> In-Reply-To: <200612181657.22828.Camille-Aime.Possamai@mshs.univ-poitiers.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:05:57 +0100 (CET) Camille-Aimé Possamaï a écrit : >> http://jvhemert.cjb.net/disc-cover > > Not Found > The requested URL /disc-cover/ was not found on this server. > > Petite erreur d'adresse peut-être ! Ou elle a disparu. Celui-ci a le même nom... mais je serais surpris que ce soit lui ! - Payant - Pour Mac uniquement (Denis est bien évidemment sous Linux) http://www.belightsoft.com/products/disccover/overview.php From - Mon Dec 18 17:11:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr (smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr [193.252.23.120] (may be forged)) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBIGBTNg035419 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:11:29 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0114.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1F934700008A for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:11:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (ALille-257-1-107-28.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.207.50.28]) by mwinf0114.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DD47B7000085 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:11:28 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061218161128906.DD47B7000085@mwinf0114.orange.fr X-ME-User-Auth: dbitouze Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:11:57 +0100 From: Denis =?ISO-8859-1?B?Qml0b3V66Q==?= To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Couvertures CD Message-ID: <20061218171157.24545e95@localhost> In-Reply-To: <200612181657.22828.Camille-Aime.Possamai@mshs.univ-poitiers.fr> References: <4869D98E-0A54-4103-A808-AF8ADF62254D@spim.jussieu.fr> <20061218165411.6cff8cba@localhost> <200612181657.22828.Camille-Aime.Possamai@mshs.univ-poitiers.fr> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.3; i586-mandriva-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:11:29 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBIGBTNg035419 Le Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:57:22 +0100 Camille-Aimé Possamaï a écrit : > > http://jvhemert.cjb.net/disc-cover > Petite erreur d'adresse peut-être ! Ou elle a disparu. Alors là, c'est assez curieux car j'ai le même problème que toi avec firefox en cliquant sur l'adresse depuis mon client mail ; je suis d'ailleurs immédiatement redirigé vers une autre adresse : http://zeist0.grif.nl/disc-cover (alors qu'avec Konqueror, c'est OK). En tous cas, l'adresse suivante semble ne pas poser problème : http://www.liacs.nl/~jvhemert/disc-cover/ Si ? -- Denis From - Mon Dec 18 17:20:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from thetis.univ-poitiers.fr (thetis.univ-poitiers.fr [195.220.223.1]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBIGJo2V043203 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:19:55 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from goldorak.univ-poitiers.fr (goldorak1.campus.univ-poitiers.fr [195.83.66.1]) by thetis.univ-poitiers.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E02450CB for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:19:50 +0100 (CET) Received: from lapmhcap.mshs.univ-poitiers.fr (lapmhcap.mshs.univ-poitiers.fr [195.220.222.203]) by goldorak.univ-poitiers.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2351645A for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:19:48 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Camille-Aim=E9_Possama=EF?= Organization: =?utf-8?q?Universit=C3=A9_de?= Poitiers To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Couvertures CD Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:19:54 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <4869D98E-0A54-4103-A808-AF8ADF62254D@spim.jussieu.fr> <200612181657.22828.Camille-Aime.Possamai@mshs.univ-poitiers.fr> <20061218171157.24545e95@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20061218171157.24545e95@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200612181719.54608.Camille-Aime.Possamai@mshs.univ-poitiers.fr> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at univ-poitiers.fr X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:19:55 +0100 (CET) Le lundi 18 décembre 2006 17:11, Denis Bitouzé a écrit : > Le Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:57:22 +0100 > Camille-Aimé Possamaï a > > écrit : > > > http://jvhemert.cjb.net/disc-cover > > > > Petite erreur d'adresse peut-être ! Ou elle a disparu. > > Alors là, c'est assez curieux car j'ai le même problème que toi avec > firefox en cliquant sur l'adresse depuis mon client mail ; je suis > d'ailleurs immédiatement redirigé vers une autre adresse : > http://zeist0.grif.nl/disc-cover (alors qu'avec Konqueror, c'est OK). > En tous cas, l'adresse suivante semble ne pas poser problème : > > http://www.liacs.nl/~jvhemert/disc-cover/ > > Si ? Celle-ci est ok. Par contre, chez moi, la première plante également avec Konqueror ! --Camille From - Tue Dec 19 22:33:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp14.orange.fr (smtp14.orange.fr [193.252.23.69]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBJLXVnV009362 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:33:31 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [90.0.8.86] (AMarseille-256-1-33-86.w90-0.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.0.8.86]) by mwinf1403.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E484B700008C for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:33:30 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061219213330937.E484B700008C@mwinf1403.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: gut@ens.fr From: "pir2.jv" Subject: notes de pied de page Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:33:29 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:33:31 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBJLXVnV009362 Bonjour. Quand on a plusieurs notes de pieds de pages qui se suivent, on obtient, comme appel de note, par exemple 34, pour indiquer qu'il y a la note 3 et qu'il y a la note 4. A priori, rien ne distingue d'une note 34. Pour distinguer, j'utilise quelque chose qui doit être considéré comme horrible, c'est ... \footnote{tchabada}$^,$\footnote{tchibidi} ... qui me donne quelque chose qui n'a pas trop mauvaise figure. Existe-t-il une solution plus "canonique"? Jacques Vernin From - Tue Dec 19 22:33:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp14.orange.fr (smtp14.orange.fr [193.252.23.69]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBJLXa61009417 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:33:36 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [90.0.8.86] (AMarseille-256-1-33-86.w90-0.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.0.8.86]) by mwinf1403.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1C3177000081 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:33:36 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061219213336115.1C3177000081@mwinf1403.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: gut@ens.fr From: "pir2.jv" Subject: stop police! Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:33:35 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:33:36 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBJLXa61009417 Un petit problème que je ne sais résoudre: Dans un fichier latex, j'ai qqch du genre: \newcommand{\tr}{\textsc{truc et chose}} qui devrait m'écrire "truc et chose" en petites majuscules lors de l'appel de \tr Bien entendu, cela marche parfaitement ... presque partout. Presque partout, car, j'ai, dans un titre: \subsection[\tr] {Point de vue de la \tr} Et là, bizarrerie: - Le titre court que je retrouve dans la table des matières ou dans mes hauts de page est bien en petites majuscules; - Mais, dans le titre long, j'obtiens "truc et chose" dans le caractère du titre. Un petit tour dans le log m'indique: --- [34] LaTeX Font Warning: Font shape `OT1/cmr/bx/sc' undefined (Font) using `OT1/cmr/bx/n' instead on input line 16. ) ------ ce qui "doit" signifier, je pense, que mon caractère textsc est inconnu au bataillon, là. Là et pas ailleurs! Y puis-je quelque chose ? Quelqu'un a-t-il eu ce problème ? Merci d'avance. Jacques Vernin From - Tue Dec 19 22:43:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr (smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr [193.252.23.120] (may be forged)) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBJLgxVK015262 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:42:59 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0114.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 501087000089 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:42:59 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (ALille-257-1-183-201.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.1.110.201]) by mwinf0114.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 23EB57000088 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:42:59 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061219214259147.23EB57000088@mwinf0114.orange.fr X-ME-User-Auth: dbitouze Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:43:29 +0100 From: Denis =?ISO-8859-1?B?Qml0b3V66Q==?= To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] notes de pied de page Message-ID: <20061219224329.1bbb9458@localhost> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.3; i586-mandriva-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:43:00 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBJLgxVK015262 Le Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:33:29 +0100 "pir2.jv" a écrit : > Existe-t-il une solution plus "canonique"? Cf. option « multiple » du package footmisc (page 5 de http://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/footmisc/footmisc.pdf). -- Denis From - Tue Dec 19 22:46:25 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp8.orange.fr (smtp8.orange.fr [193.252.22.23]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBJLkJs7017360 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:46:19 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [90.0.8.86] (AMarseille-256-1-33-86.w90-0.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.0.8.86]) by mwinf0813.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2487C1C000A7 for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:46:19 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061219214619149.2487C1C000A7@mwinf0813.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20061219224329.1bbb9458@localhost> References: <20061219224329.1bbb9458@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <29F0B444-215A-47F9-8E9C-E26127A19812@wanadoo.fr> From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: [gut] notes de pied de page Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:46:17 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:46:19 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBJLkJs7017360 Bravo ... et merci! JV Le 19 déc. 06 à 22:43, Denis Bitouzé a écrit : > Le Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:33:29 +0100 > "pir2.jv" a écrit : > >> Existe-t-il une solution plus "canonique"? > > Cf. option « multiple » du package footmisc (page 5 de > http://tug.ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/footmisc/ > footmisc.pdf). > -- > Denis > > > Jacques Vernin From - Wed Dec 20 00:45:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr (smtp19.orange.fr [80.12.242.1]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBJNixcd012558 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:45:04 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [192.168.1.11] (ARennes-357-1-6-197.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.1.133.197]) by mwinf1902.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 29B591C00082 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:44:59 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061219234459170.29B591C00082@mwinf1902.orange.fr Message-ID: <4588797A.6040804@wanadoo.fr> Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:44:58 +0100 From: Jean-Michel Le Bot User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: polices anciennes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 20 Dec 2006 00:45:04 +0100 (CET) Bonjour Existe-t-il des polices permettant de reproduire des documents comme celui-ci : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bill_of_Mortality.jpg ? Jean-Michel Le Bot From - Wed Dec 20 06:48:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from gama.ool.fr (gama.resot.net [217.175.160.24]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBK5lpTn077991 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 06:47:57 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: (qmail 10307 invoked by uid 501); 20 Dec 2006 05:47:50 -0000 Received: from 89.16.3.51 by gama (envelope-from , uid 102) with qmail-scanner-2.01st (clamdscan: 0.88.7/2335. spamassassin: 3.1.7. perlscan: 2.01st. Clear:RC:1(89.16.3.51):SA:0(?/?):. Processed in 3.06844 secs); 20 Dec 2006 05:47:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.1.5]) ([89.16.3.51]) (envelope-sender ) by gama.ool.fr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 20 Dec 2006 05:47:47 -0000 From: Sebastien Morin To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] polices anciennes Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 09:47:43 +0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.4 References: <4588797A.6040804@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <4588797A.6040804@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200612200947.44897.sebsweb@free.fr> X-Milter-DNSRBL: GOOD relayIP match 127.0.0.4 (blacklisted) for 89.16.3.51 in sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org X-Milter-DNSRBL: GOOD relayIP match 127.0.0.4 (blacklisted) for 89.16.3.51 in sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 20 Dec 2006 06:47:57 +0100 (CET) Le mercredi 20 décembre 2006 03:44, Jean-Michel Le Bot a écrit : > Existe-t-il des polices permettant de reproduire des documents > comme celui-ci : > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bill_of_Mortality.jpg Je ne suis pas sûr que la police soit exactement la même, mais DayRoman me semble convenir (S long et les chiffres bas de casse). ftp://cam.ctan.org/tex-archive/fonts/DayRoman From - Wed Dec 20 10:07:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr (smtp3-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.29]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBK97Flb024637 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:07:20 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [192.168.0.2] (dan75-5-82-234-241-117.fbx.proxad.net [82.234.241.117]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B54B4A16B; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:07:15 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Bella=EFche?= From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Bella=EFche?= Subject: Re: [gut] stop police! Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:06:29 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:07:20 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBK97Flb024637 Le 19 déc. 06 à 22:33, pir2.jv a écrit : > Un petit problème que je ne sais résoudre: > Dans un fichier latex, j'ai qqch du genre: > \newcommand{\tr}{\textsc{truc et chose}} > qui devrait m'écrire "truc et chose" en petites majuscules lors de > l'appel de \tr > Bien entendu, cela marche parfaitement ... presque partout. > Presque partout, car, j'ai, dans un titre: > \subsection[\tr] {Point de vue de la \tr} > Et là, bizarrerie: > - Le titre court que je retrouve dans la table des matières ou dans > mes hauts de page est bien en petites majuscules; > - Mais, dans le titre long, j'obtiens "truc et chose" dans le > caractère du titre. > > Un petit tour dans le log m'indique: > > LaTeX Font Warning: Font shape `OT1/cmr/bx/sc' undefined > (Font) using `OT1/cmr/bx/n' instead on input line 16. > ) > > ce qui "doit" signifier, je pense, que mon caractère textsc est > inconnu au bataillon, là. Là et pas ailleurs! Cela provient du fait que votre titre est en gras (bx). Quand il arrive, dans le titre, à \textsc, LaTeX cherche le gras petites capitales (bx/sc) et ne le trouve pas. Il cherche quelque chose d'approchant, et le gras normal lui semble plus approprié que le maigre petites capitales. (C'est évidemment programmé quelque part...) Si vous tenez aux petites capitales (maigres), vous pouvez toujours employer \hbox{\textsc{...}}, mais il faudra sans doute adapter la taille à l'intérieur de la \hbox : par exemple hbox{\Large\textsc {...}} (par défaut, dans LaTeX, les titres de section sont en \Large, cela se voit en faisant \show\section). > > Y puis-je quelque chose ? > Quelqu'un a-t-il eu ce problème ? > > Merci d'avance. > > Jacques Vernin André Bellaïche From - Wed Dec 20 10:43:09 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (smtp20.orange.fr [80.12.242.27]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBK9gtU5052739 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:43:00 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [90.0.8.86] (AMarseille-256-1-33-86.w90-0.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.0.8.86]) by mwinf2009.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EE3811C000A3 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:42:54 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061220094254975.EE3811C000A3@mwinf2009.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <76A7ACBA-DAE2-47D1-BB5E-F3228112E69E@wanadoo.fr> From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: [gut] stop police! Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:42:53 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:43:02 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBK9gtU5052739 Merci, c'est très clair. Ce n'est d'ailleurs pas le drame du siècle, mais je voulais savoir. Je sais. Et comme c'est dans une sous-section, dans la table des matières, les caractères sont normaux, si bien que, pour: >> \subsection[\tr] {Point de vue de la \tr} [\tr] fonctionne. En revanche, l'introduction d'une hbox, faite pour voir ne m'a rien modifié: ------- [34] LaTeX Font Warning: Font shape `OT1/cmr/bx/sc' undefined (Font) using `OT1/cmr/bx/n' instead on input line 16. ----------- Tant pis; mais quand j'aurai un moment, je regarderai mieux. Merci beaucoup. JV Le 20 déc. 06 à 10:06, André Bellaïche a écrit : > > Le 19 déc. 06 à 22:33, pir2.jv a écrit : > >> Un petit problème que je ne sais résoudre: >> Dans un fichier latex, j'ai qqch du genre: >> \newcommand{\tr}{\textsc{truc et chose}} >> qui devrait m'écrire "truc et chose" en petites majuscules lors de >> l'appel de \tr >> Bien entendu, cela marche parfaitement ... presque partout. >> Presque partout, car, j'ai, dans un titre: >> \subsection[\tr] {Point de vue de la \tr} >> Et là, bizarrerie: >> - Le titre court que je retrouve dans la table des matières ou >> dans mes hauts de page est bien en petites majuscules; >> - Mais, dans le titre long, j'obtiens "truc et chose" dans le >> caractère du titre. >> >> Un petit tour dans le log m'indique: >> >> LaTeX Font Warning: Font shape `OT1/cmr/bx/sc' undefined >> (Font) using `OT1/cmr/bx/n' instead on input line 16. >> ) >> >> ce qui "doit" signifier, je pense, que mon caractère textsc est >> inconnu au bataillon, là. Là et pas ailleurs! > > Cela provient du fait que votre titre est en gras (bx). Quand il > arrive, dans le titre, à \textsc, LaTeX cherche le gras petites > capitales (bx/sc) et ne le trouve pas. Il cherche quelque chose > d'approchant, et le gras normal lui semble plus approprié que le > maigre petites capitales. (C'est évidemment programmé quelque part...) > > Si vous tenez aux petites capitales (maigres), vous pouvez toujours > employer \hbox{\textsc{...}}, mais il faudra sans doute adapter la > taille à l'intérieur de la \hbox : par exemple hbox{\Large\textsc > {...}} (par défaut, dans LaTeX, les titres de section sont en > \Large, cela se voit en faisant \show\section). >> >> Y puis-je quelque chose ? >> Quelqu'un a-t-il eu ce problème ? >> >> Merci d'avance. >> >> Jacques Vernin > > André Bellaïche > > > Jacques Vernin From - Wed Dec 20 10:55:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from clipper.ens.fr (clipper-gw.ens.fr [129.199.1.22]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBK9tkXe063958 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:55:46 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from (noirel@localhost) by clipper.ens.fr (8.13.1/jb-1.1) Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:55:46 +0100 From: Josselin Noirel To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] stop police! Message-ID: <20061220095546.GA27947@clipper.ens.fr> References: <76A7ACBA-DAE2-47D1-BB5E-F3228112E69E@wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <76A7ACBA-DAE2-47D1-BB5E-F3228112E69E@wanadoo.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:55:47 +0100 (CET) On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 10:42:53AM +0100, pir2.jv wrote: > En revanche, l'introduction d'une hbox, faite pour voir ne m'a rien > modifié: Une \hbox ne réinitialise pas la police courante. \makeatletter % Switches to medium series if the current series is bold or bold extended \newcommand*{\maybemd}% {\ifthenelse{\equal{\f@series}{b}\OR\equal{\f@series}{bx}}{\mdseries}{}} \makeatother \section[\tr]{ . . . {\maybemd \tr} . . . } -- Joss From - Wed Dec 20 13:34:12 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2-g19.free.fr (smtp2-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.28]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBKCY2dj000157 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:34:07 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [192.168.0.2] (dan75-5-82-234-241-117.fbx.proxad.net [82.234.241.117]) by smtp2-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C662D7D35; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:34:01 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <20061220095546.GA27947@clipper.ens.fr> References: <76A7ACBA-DAE2-47D1-BB5E-F3228112E69E@wanadoo.fr> <20061220095546.GA27947@clipper.ens.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <1C22BED1-A77D-4A50-9299-4159C1BF28BB@math.jussieu.fr> Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Bella=EFche?= From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Bella=EFche?= Subject: Re: [gut] stop police! Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:33:03 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:34:07 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBKCY2dj000157 Le 20 déc. 06 à 10:55, Josselin Noirel a écrit : > On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 10:42:53AM +0100, pir2.jv wrote: >> En revanche, l'introduction d'une hbox, faite pour voir ne m'a rien >> modifié: > > Une \hbox ne réinitialise pas la police courante. > > \makeatletter > % Switches to medium series if the current series is bold or bold > extended > \newcommand*{\maybemd}% > {\ifthenelse{\equal{\f@series}{b}\OR\equal{\f@series}{bx}} > {\mdseries}{}} > \makeatother > > \section[\tr]{ . . . {\maybemd \tr} . . . } > > -- > Joss > Oui, j'ai gravement déliré. Je me croyais en mode math, et je voulais utiliser la \hbox pour repasser en mode texte. Il suffit en fait de faire \subsection[...]{Essai {\rm\textsc {Essai}}} André From - Wed Dec 20 14:02:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.4 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp23.orange.fr (smtp23.orange.fr [193.252.22.126]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBKD1sRR028484 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:01:54 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2324.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 83EFC70000A8 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:01:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (ARennes-257-1-123-19.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.210.58.19]) by mwinf2324.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 64AC870000A6 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:01:53 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061220130154412.64AC870000A6@mwinf2324.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <4588797A.6040804@wanadoo.fr> References: <4588797A.6040804@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jacques_Andr=E9?= Subject: Re: [gut] polices anciennes Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:03:32 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:01:55 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBKD1sRR028484 Le 20 déc. 06, à 00:44, Jean-Michel Le Bot a écrit : > Bonjour > Existe-t-il des polices permettant de reproduire des documents comme > celui-ci : > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Bill_of_Mortality.jpg > Tout d'abord vous ne trouverez rien qui permette de reproduire un tel document, sauf à utiliser la même fonte (en plomb), le même papier, la même encre. Si maintenant c'est du style de caractères dont vous parlez, avec les Q allongés, les ligatures st, les doubles s, etc. quasi toutes les fontes copies de fontes anciennes (p.ex. Fournier d'Adobe ou ITC Founders Caslon) vous offrent ça (mais il faut en général regarder la police expert). Si maintenant vous cherchez une fonte ± domaine publique, je vous recommande une fonte avec un look un peu plus ancien (xvie siècle) , mais plein de caractères spéciaux (tels que "e ogonek" du vieux français, les longs s, etc.) et gratuite qui a été proposée par Michaud sur la liste typo il y a un an environ: http://geneamichaud.free.fr/telechargements/1550-00.html Jacques.AndreNN@orange.fr Nouvelle adresse avec NN=Ille et Vilaine (35) From - Wed Dec 20 14:19:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp10.orange.fr (smtp10.orange.fr [193.252.22.21]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBKDJL66046910 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:19:21 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [90.0.8.86] (AMarseille-256-1-33-86.w90-0.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.0.8.86]) by mwinf1007.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 70A712800143 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:19:21 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061220131921461.70A712800143@mwinf1007.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <1C22BED1-A77D-4A50-9299-4159C1BF28BB@math.jussieu.fr> References: <76A7ACBA-DAE2-47D1-BB5E-F3228112E69E@wanadoo.fr> <20061220095546.GA27947@clipper.ens.fr> <1C22BED1-A77D-4A50-9299-4159C1BF28BB@math.jussieu.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <8CB4C707-FC6B-4A1B-906D-AD27039B4EF2@wanadoo.fr> From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: [gut] stop police! Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:19:19 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:19:22 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBKDJL66046910 Impeccable; juste un peu maigrelet, mais vous m'avez expliqué pourquoi. Merci Le 20 déc. 06 à 13:33, André Bellaïche a écrit : > > Le 20 déc. 06 à 10:55, Josselin Noirel a écrit : > >> On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 10:42:53AM +0100, pir2.jv wrote: >>> En revanche, l'introduction d'une hbox, faite pour voir ne m'a rien >>> modifié: >> >> Une \hbox ne réinitialise pas la police courante. >> >> \makeatletter >> % Switches to medium series if the current series is bold or >> bold extended >> \newcommand*{\maybemd}% >> {\ifthenelse{\equal{\f@series}{b}\OR\equal{\f@series}{bx}} >> {\mdseries}{}} >> \makeatother >> >> \section[\tr]{ . . . {\maybemd \tr} . . . } >> >> -- >> Joss >> > Oui, j'ai gravement déliré. Je me croyais en mode math, et je > voulais utiliser la \hbox pour repasser en mode texte. > > Il suffit en fait de faire \subsection[...]{Essai {\rm\textsc > {Essai}}} > > André > > > > > Jacques Vernin From - Wed Dec 20 14:45:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp21.orange.fr (smtp21.orange.fr [80.12.242.46] (may be forged)) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBKDim4j073354 for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:44:53 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [192.168.1.11] (ARennes-357-1-6-197.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.1.133.197]) by mwinf2101.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 304351C0009E for ; Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:44:44 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061220134444197.304351C0009E@mwinf2101.orange.fr Message-ID: <45893DCF.5030003@wanadoo.fr> Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:42:39 +0100 From: Jean-Michel Le Bot User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] polices anciennes References: <4588797A.6040804@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:44:54 +0100 (CET) Jacques André a écrit : > Tout d'abord vous ne trouverez rien qui permette de reproduire un tel > document, sauf à utiliser la même fonte (en plomb), le même papier, la > même encre. > > Si maintenant c'est du style de caractères dont vous parlez, avec les Q > allongés, les ligatures st, les doubles s, etc. Oui, quand je parlais de "reproduire" c'était bien de cela qu'il s'agissait. Merci pour votre réponse Jean-Michel Le Bot From - Fri Dec 22 10:41:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp23.orange.fr (smtp23.orange.fr [80.12.242.50]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBM9fCUC060526 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 10:41:17 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2304.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A677D1C000A3 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 10:41:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from [86.219.183.186] (AMarseille-256-1-24-186.w86-219.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.219.183.186]) by mwinf2304.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4D71B1C0009C for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 10:41:12 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061222094112317.4D71B1C0009C@mwinf2304.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Message-Id: <4FF9A300-01C3-456A-97D4-A7B7AAD333FF@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: gut@ens.fr From: "pir2.jv" Subject: pstricks, asymptote, pgf Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 10:41:10 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 22 Dec 2006 10:41:19 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBM9fCUC060526 Honte!!! Ayant besoin de quelques croquis dans un document qui est assez lourd, je les ai réalisés avec pstricks (splendide, après quelques tatonnements) ... Puis, j'ai voulu les intégrer dans mon document jusqu'à ce que je me rappelle que je ne pouvais utiliser pdflatex pour des croquis en pstricks. J'ai donc, du, horreur, dans l'urgence, rogner ma sortie (dvips ...) pour en faire un document pdf que j'ai intégré. Mais la qualité est moyenne; puis, c'est tout de même peu élégant!! Alors, je consulte le document de M Bitouzé, qui est très bien fait (http://www- lmpa.univ- littoral.fr/) sur Latex, qui vante les mérites, si on utilise pdflatex, d'Asymptote (http:// asymptote.sourceforge.net/index.html) et de pkg ( http:// sourceforge.net/projects/pgf/). J'essaie d'abord Asymptote, qui, sur le papier (l'écran) paraît en effet pas mal. Las, je ne suis jamais arrivé à l'installer: ./configure RAS make all qui se termine par: ---- runtime.in:3751: error: 'run::store_history' cannot be used as a function make: *** [runtime.o] Error 1 ----- J'ai lu et relu 25 fois INSTALL; rien n'y fait. Alors, je regarde pgf. Sur le papier aussi, cela paraît me convenir. Mais je suis confronté à un problème 1000 fois rencontré, 1000 fois résolu, mais jamais tout à fait: Il faut tout installer dans un texmf. Je choisis sw/share/texmf/ que je complète ainsi:sw/share/texmf/tex/generic/pgf ainsi que me le conseille la page 53 de pgfmanual. Là, je mets l'ensemble des fichiers que j'avais "downloadé" et qui étaient dans pgf-1.10 (Il s'agit des fichiers context,doc,generic,latex,plain) Ceci fait, toujours le manuel, je fais texhash, ou mktelsr: ---- amarseille-256-1-33-86:~/Desktop/segece jver$ mktexlsr mktexlsr: Updating /sw/etc/texmf-config/ls-R... mktexlsr: /sw/share/texmf: directory not writable. Skipping... mktexlsr: /sw/share/texmf-dist: directory not writable. Skipping... mktexlsr: /sw/share/texmf-local: directory not writable. Skipping... mktexlsr: Updating /sw/var/lib/texmf/ls-R... mktexlsr: Done. ------ (directory non writable : ?????) Puis, je lance mon fichier de test: pdflatex pgf.tex ..... ! LaTeX Error: File `pgffor.sty' not found. ..... Il est dans sw/share/texmf/tex/generic/pgf /latex/pgf/utilities Donc, deux questions: - Quelqu'un a-t-il utilisé asymptote sur Mac OS x.4 (J'ai essayé l'installation à partir de deux fichiers, l'un "multiplateforme", l'autre OS X.4) ? - Pour pgf, où est ma bêtise ? Merci aux courageux qui me viendraient en aide!. Salut Jacques Vernin From - Fri Dec 22 13:40:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp7-g19.free.fr (smtp7-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.64]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBMCeMqc005491 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 13:40:28 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (sju13-3-82-234-221-201.fbx.proxad.net [82.234.221.201]) by smtp7-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C8455DE for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 13:40:22 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <458BD23F.1030402@geo.hmg.inpg.fr> Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 13:40:31 +0100 From: xavier roguiez User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tex Subject: Empdef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 22 Dec 2006 13:40:28 +0100 (CET) Bonjour J'utilise l'environnement empdef afin de compiler du métapost sous latex; Ca marche bien quand il n'y a pas d'erreur. Mais quand je fais des erreurs de frappe ou de codage, la compilation se plante sous metapost et je n'ai pas d'arrêt avec le célèbre ?> et le numéro de ligne permettant de traiter l'erreur. Existe il un moyen de faire afficher le numéro de ligne à l'erreur ? Il n'y a rien dans le fichier log. D'avance merci xavier roguiez From - Fri Dec 22 14:30:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from reserv6.univ-lille1.fr (reserv6.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.20]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBMDUjHB044367 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:30:50 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from reserv1.univ-lille1.fr (root@reserv1.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.15]) by reserv6.univ-lille1.fr (8.13.7/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id kBMDUZlK002580 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:30:35 +0100 Received: from [192.168.134.106] ([192.168.134.106]) (authenticated bits=0) by reserv1.univ-lille1.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id kBMDUjwT007334 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:30:46 +0100 Message-ID: <458BDDFB.4080709@univ-lille1.fr> Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:30:35 +0100 From: Daniel Flipo User-Agent: Icedove 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061128) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] pstricks, asymptote, pgf References: <4FF9A300-01C3-456A-97D4-A7B7AAD333FF@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <4FF9A300-01C3-456A-97D4-A7B7AAD333FF@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:30:50 +0100 (CET) X-Greylist: Sender DNS name whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (reserv6.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.20]); Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:30:35 +0100 (CET) X-USTL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-USTL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-USTL-MailScanner-From: daniel.flipo@univ-lille1.fr pir2.jv a écrit le 22.12.2006 10:41 : > Alors, je regarde pgf. Sur le papier aussi, cela paraît me convenir. > Mais je suis confronté à un problème 1000 fois rencontré, 1000 fois > résolu, mais jamais tout à fait: > Il faut tout installer dans un texmf. Je choisis sw/share/texmf/ > que je complète ainsi:sw/share/texmf/tex/generic/pgf ainsi que me le > conseille la page 53 de pgfmanual. Là, je mets l'ensemble des fichiers > que j'avais "downloadé" et qui étaient dans pgf-1.10 (Il s'agit des > fichiers context,doc,generic,latex,plain) > > Ceci fait, toujours le manuel, je fais texhash, ou mktelsr: > ---- > amarseille-256-1-33-86:~/Desktop/segece jver$ mktexlsr > mktexlsr: Updating /sw/etc/texmf-config/ls-R... > mktexlsr: /sw/share/texmf: directory not writable. Skipping... > mktexlsr: /sw/share/texmf-dist: directory not writable. Skipping... > mktexlsr: /sw/share/texmf-local: directory not writable. Skipping... > mktexlsr: Updating /sw/var/lib/texmf/ls-R... > mktexlsr: Done. > ------ > (directory non writable : ?????) Le fichier ls-R n'a pas pu être écrit sur le disque semble-t-il faute de droits d'accès (normal si mktexlsr est lancé opar un utilisateur non privilégié). Essayez sudo mktexlsr (il faudra donner votre mot de passe usuel, pas testé je n'ai pas de mac...) -- Daniel Flipo From - Fri Dec 22 14:31:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp.unilim.fr (mail.unilim.fr [164.81.1.45]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBMDUkmo044377 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:30:51 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (webmail.unilim.fr [164.81.1.32]) by smtp.unilim.fr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id kBMDUcFS017280 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:30:38 +0100 Received: from 164.81.23.251 ([164.81.23.251]) by webmail.unilim.fr (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:30:39 +0100 Message-ID: <20061222143039.84w33umdk408skcw@webmail.unilim.fr> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:30:39 +0100 From: Pierre Fournier To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] pstricks, asymptote, pgf References: <4FF9A300-01C3-456A-97D4-A7B7AAD333FF@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <4FF9A300-01C3-456A-97D4-A7B7AAD333FF@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.5) X-Univ-Limoges-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (smtp.unilim.fr [164.81.1.45]); Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:30:38 +0100 (CET) X-Univ-Limoges-MailScanner-Information: Serveur Anti-virus Please contact the SCI, Univ. of Limoges, for more information X-Univ-Limoges-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Univ-Limoges-MailScanner-SpamCheck: n'est pas un polluriel, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.389, requis 6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60, NO_RDNS2 0.01) X-Univ-Limoges-MailScanner-Envelope-From: pierre.fournier@unilim.fr X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:30:51 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBMDUkmo044377 Quoting "pir2.jv" : > Honte!!! > > Ayant besoin de quelques croquis dans un document qui est assez > lourd, je les ai réalisés avec pstricks (splendide, après quelques > tatonnements) ... > Puis, j'ai voulu les intégrer dans mon document jusqu'à ce que je me > rappelle que je ne pouvais utiliser pdflatex pour des croquis en > pstricks. J'ai donc, du, horreur, dans l'urgence, rogner ma sortie > (dvips ...) pour en faire un document pdf que j'ai intégré. Mais la > qualité est moyenne; puis, c'est tout de même peu élégant!! > > Alors, je consulte le document de M Bitouzé, qui est très bien fait > (http://www- lmpa.univ- littoral.fr/) sur Latex, qui vante les > mérites, si on utilise pdflatex, d'Asymptote (http:// > asymptote.sourceforge.net/index.html) et de pkg ( http:// > sourceforge.net/projects/pgf/). > [...] > Donc, deux questions: > - Quelqu'un a-t-il utilisé asymptote sur Mac OS x.4 (J'ai essayé > l'installation à partir de deux fichiers, l'un "multiplateforme", > l'autre OS X.4) ? > - Pour pgf, où est ma bêtise ? > > > Merci aux courageux qui me viendraient en aide!. > Salut > > Jacques Vernin > > Bonjour J'ai réussi à installer asymptote sous Max OS X 4, mais pas du premier coup et surtout pas par le darwinPort. En dernier recours j'ai suivi la méthode ./configure, make, make install et ça a marché. Mais bon, je ne sais pas trop pourquoi. J'ai essayé Asymptote et je l'ai adopté, mais je regrette qq aspects de MetaPost, quand même, même si Asymptote est plus ergonomique que MetaPost ! > > -- Pierre Fournier I.U.T. Allée ANDRE MAUROIS 87065 LIMOGES CEDEX From - Fri Dec 22 14:43:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp4.orange.fr (smtp4.orange.fr [193.252.22.27]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBMDhdwr053669 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:43:39 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [86.219.183.186] (AMarseille-256-1-24-186.w86-219.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.219.183.186]) by mwinf0407.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 25CEF1C003C4 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:43:39 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061222134339154.25CEF1C003C4@mwinf0407.orange.fr In-Reply-To: <20061222143039.84w33umdk408skcw@webmail.unilim.fr> References: <4FF9A300-01C3-456A-97D4-A7B7AAD333FF@wanadoo.fr> <20061222143039.84w33umdk408skcw@webmail.unilim.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: [gut] pstricks, asymptote, pgf Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:43:36 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 22 Dec 2006 14:43:39 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBMDhdwr053669 Le 22 déc. 06 à 14:30, Pierre Fournier a écrit : >> > Bonjour > > J'ai réussi à installer asymptote sous Max OS X 4, mais pas du > premier coup et surtout pas par le darwinPort. En dernier recours > j'ai suivi la méthode ./configure, make, make install et ça a > marché. Mais bon, je ne sais pas trop pourquoi. J'ai essayé > Asymptote et je l'ai adopté, mais je regrette qq aspects de > MetaPost, quand même, même si Asymptote est plus ergonomique que > MetaPost ! > >> >> > > > > -- > Pierre Fournier > I.U.T. > Allée ANDRE MAUROIS > 87065 LIMOGES CEDEX > > > J'ai essayé de la même manière (\configure ...), mais sans aucun succès. Donc, je n'ai pas d'avis sur Asymptote!! Merci Jacques Vernin From - Fri Dec 22 15:52:24 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (smtp20.orange.fr [193.252.22.29]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBMEqJtQ012677 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:52:19 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [86.219.183.186] (AMarseille-256-1-24-186.w86-219.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.219.183.186]) by mwinf2013.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8D1BD1C000A2 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:52:18 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061222145218578.8D1BD1C000A2@mwinf2013.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <458BDDFB.4080709@univ-lille1.fr> References: <4FF9A300-01C3-456A-97D4-A7B7AAD333FF@wanadoo.fr> <458BDDFB.4080709@univ-lille1.fr> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-59--486623899 Message-Id: <3BF77ABB-59A2-4A77-9C99-520303CCAE47@wanadoo.fr> From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: [gut] pstricks, asymptote, pgf Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:52:16 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:52:19 +0100 (CET) --Apple-Mail-59--486623899 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Le 22 d=E9c. 06 =E0 14:30, Daniel Flipo a =E9crit : > > Le fichier ls-R n'a pas pu =EAtre =E9crit sur le disque semble-t-il=20=20 > faute de droits d'acc=E8s (normal si mktexlsr est lanc=E9 opar un=20=20 > utilisateur non privil=E9gi=E9). Essayez > sudo mktexlsr > (il faudra donner votre mot de passe usuel, pas test=E9 je n'ai pas=20=20 > de mac...) > --=20 > Daniel Flipo > Bien entendu, je suis cr=E9tin de ne pas y avoir pens=E9. Merci Donc: sudo texhash Tout a l'air de bien se passer. J'=E9cris, piqu=E9 dans une doc: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D \documentclass[a4paper,12pt%,draft ]{article} \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc} \usepackage[francais]{babel} \usepackage{tikz} \begin{document} \tikz \draw[thick,rounded corners=3D8pt] (0,0) -- (0,2) -- (1,3.25) -- (2,2) -- (2,0) -- (0,2) -- (2,2) --=20=20 (0,0) -- (2,0); \end{document} =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D En effet, tous les .sty requis ont l'air, maintenant, compris. Mais: l.15 \usepgflibrary {plothandlers} ? ! LaTeX Error: Missing \begin{document}. See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation. Type H for immediate help. ... l.15 \usepgflibrary{p lothandlers} ? x No pages of output. 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Undefined control sequence. l.15 \usepgflibrary {plothandlers} ? ! LaTeX Error: Missing \begin{document}. See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation. Type H for immediate help. ... l.15 \usepgflibrary{p lothandlers} ? x Here is how much of TeX's memory you used: 2367 strings out of 94500 29877 string characters out of 1176113 87642 words of memory out of 1000000 5540 multiletter control sequences out of 10000+50000 3938 words of font info for 15 fonts, out of 500000 for 2000 580 hyphenation exceptions out of 1000 39i,0n,42p,205b,46s stack positions out of 1500i,500n,5000p,200000b,5000s PDF statistics: 0 PDF objects out of 300000 0 named destinations out of 131072 1 words of extra memory for PDF output out of 65536 No pages of output. --Apple-Mail-59--486623899 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Jacques Vernin --Apple-Mail-59--486623899-- From - Fri Dec 22 16:13:00 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from reserv6.univ-lille1.fr (reserv6.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.20]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBMFClpi030274 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:12:53 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from reserv1.univ-lille1.fr (root@reserv1.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.15]) by reserv6.univ-lille1.fr (8.13.7/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id kBMFCVst032376 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:12:31 +0100 Received: from [192.168.134.106] ([192.168.134.106]) (authenticated bits=0) by reserv1.univ-lille1.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id kBMFCirV007920 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:12:45 +0100 Message-ID: <458BF5DF.2050108@univ-lille1.fr> Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:12:31 +0100 From: Daniel Flipo User-Agent: Icedove 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061128) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] pstricks, asymptote, pgf References: <4FF9A300-01C3-456A-97D4-A7B7AAD333FF@wanadoo.fr> <458BDDFB.4080709@univ-lille1.fr> <3BF77ABB-59A2-4A77-9C99-520303CCAE47@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <3BF77ABB-59A2-4A77-9C99-520303CCAE47@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:12:53 +0100 (CET) X-Greylist: Sender DNS name whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (reserv6.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.20]); Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:12:31 +0100 (CET) X-USTL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-USTL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-USTL-MailScanner-From: daniel.flipo@univ-lille1.fr pir2.jv a écrit le 22.12.2006 15:52 : > J'écris, piqué dans une doc: > ================ > \documentclass[a4paper,12pt%,draft > ]{article} > \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc} > \usepackage[francais]{babel} > \usepackage{tikz} > > \begin{document} > > > \tikz \draw[thick,rounded corners=8pt] > (0,0) -- (0,2) -- (1,3.25) -- (2,2) -- (2,0) -- (0,2) -- (2,2) -- (0,0) > -- (2,0); > \end{document} > ======================== > > En effet, tous les .sty requis ont l'air, maintenant, compris. > > Mais: > l.15 \usepgflibrary > {plothandlers} Le fichier pgf.log dit plus précisément : ! Undefined control sequence. l.15 \usepgflibrary {plothandlers} Ce n'est plus un problème de fichier non trouvé, c'est la définition de \usepgflibrary qui n'a pas été trouvée, il doit falloir charger un paquet supplémentaire, lequel ? je donne ma langue au chat (je suis encore avec pgf v.1.7, j'attends le texlive nouveau pour avoir la mise à jour ;-) -- Daniel Flipo From - Fri Dec 22 16:17:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp23.orange.fr (smtp23.orange.fr [193.252.23.111]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBMFHBbt033483 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:17:11 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2309.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1013D70000A8 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:17:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from [86.219.183.186] (AMarseille-256-1-24-186.w86-219.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.219.183.186]) by mwinf2309.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DC70170000A7 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:17:09 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061222151709903.DC70170000A7@mwinf2309.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <3BF77ABB-59A2-4A77-9C99-520303CCAE47@wanadoo.fr> References: <4FF9A300-01C3-456A-97D4-A7B7AAD333FF@wanadoo.fr> <458BDDFB.4080709@univ-lille1.fr> <3BF77ABB-59A2-4A77-9C99-520303CCAE47@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-65--485133281 Message-Id: From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: [gut] pstricks, asymptote, pgf Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:17:07 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:17:11 +0100 (CET) --Apple-Mail-65--485133281 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed J'ajoute que l'ajout de: \usepgflibrary{plothandlers} n'arrange pas grand chose! Ni \begin{tikzpicture} \end ... Une g=E9n=E9ralit=E9: les auteurs de tutoriaux(?) et autres doc mettraient,= =20=20 quelquefois, un exemple minimum qui fonctionne, sans qu'on se creuse=20=20 la t=EAte pour savoir ce qu'on doit mettre dedans, ce serait une riche=20= =20 id=E9e! Je prends l'exemple de la doc pgfmanual, page 17, qui donne l'exemple: +++++++++ \documentclass{article} % say \usepackage{tikz} \begin{document} We are working on \begin{tikzpicture} \draw (-1.5,0) -- (1.5,0); \draw (0,-1.5) -- (0,1.5); \end{tikzpicture}. \end{document} ++++++++++++++++ Chez moi, =E7=E0 ne marche absolument pas. Peut-=EAtre que c'est de ma=20= =20 faute ? Peut-=EAtre ai-je un vieux pgf dans usr/... et qu'il y a=20=20 m=E9lange de pinceaux. Mais comment le savoir? Salut -------------------------- Le 22 d=E9c. 06 =E0 15:52, pir2.jv a =E9crit : > > Le 22 d=E9c. 06 =E0 14:30, Daniel Flipo a =E9crit : > >> >> Le fichier ls-R n'a pas pu =EAtre =E9crit sur le disque semble-t-il=20= =20 >> faute de droits d'acc=E8s (normal si mktexlsr est lanc=E9 opar un=20=20 >> utilisateur non privil=E9gi=E9). Essayez >> sudo mktexlsr >> (il faudra donner votre mot de passe usuel, pas test=E9 je n'ai pas=20= =20 >> de mac...) >> --=20 >> Daniel Flipo >> > > Bien entendu, je suis cr=E9tin de ne pas y avoir pens=E9. Merci > > Donc: > sudo texhash > Tout a l'air de bien se passer. > > J'=E9cris, piqu=E9 dans une doc: > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > \documentclass[a4paper,12pt%,draft > ]{article} > \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc} > \usepackage[francais]{babel} > \usepackage{tikz} > > \begin{document} > > > \tikz \draw[thick,rounded corners=3D8pt] > (0,0) -- (0,2) -- (1,3.25) -- (2,2) -- (2,0) -- (0,2) -- (2,2) --=20=20 > (0,0) -- (2,0); > \end{document} > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > En effet, tous les .sty requis ont l'air, maintenant, compris. > > Mais: > l.15 \usepgflibrary > {plothandlers} > ? > > ! LaTeX Error: Missing \begin{document}. > > See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation. > Type H for immediate help. > ... > > l.15 \usepgflibrary{p > lothandlers} > ? x > No pages of output. > Transcript written on pgf.log. > > > Or cette librairie me semble pr=E9sente en sw/share/texmf/tex/generic/=20 > pgf/libraries > > > Jacques Vernin > > > Jacques Vernin --Apple-Mail-65--485133281 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: image/jpeg; x-unix-mode=0644; name=pirY.jpg Content-Disposition: inline; filename=pirY.jpg /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQEASABIAAD/2wBDAAEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEB AQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQH/ 2wBDAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEB AQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQH/wAARCABQALQDASIAAhEBAxEB/8QA HQAAAgICAwEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQcACAYJAgUKBP/EAFcQAAECAwMGCAoFAxAL AAAAAAECAwAEBQYRFgcSExQVkSExQVJTY5LRCBgiYYGhosHh8BcjJFFiV7HS GSYyMzU3QkNFSHGChZey1SUnKERVZ4aHlcbW/8QAHQEAAQQDAQEAAAAAAAAA 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09:47:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (anancy-153-1-19-116.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.196.130.116]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin06/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id kBMHlGn4021314 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:47:26 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <4FF9A300-01C3-456A-97D4-A7B7AAD333FF@wanadoo.fr> <458BDDFB.4080709@univ-lille1.fr> <3BF77ABB-59A2-4A77-9C99-520303CCAE47@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <246C72BE-0232-4667-8F9B-0A0D6DE78865@mac.com> From: Frank STENGEL Subject: Re: [gut] pstricks, asymptote, pgf Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 18:47:19 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 22 Dec 2006 18:47:34 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBMHlSFW063219 Le 22 déc. 06 à 16:17, pir2.jv a écrit : > > Une généralité: les auteurs de tutoriaux(?) et autres doc > mettraient, quelquefois, un exemple minimum qui fonctionne, sans > qu'on se creuse la tête pour savoir ce qu'on doit mettre dedans, ce > serait une riche idée! chez moi, les exemples de la doc marchent sans autre forme de procès... > > Peut-être ai-je un vieux pgf dans usr/... et qu'il y a mélange de > pinceaux. Mais comment le savoir? Dans Terminal : kpsewhich pgf.sty kpsewhich tikz.sty donne où TeX cherche pgf et ses petits copains... -- Frank STENGEL (fstengelmac.com) From - Fri Dec 22 19:40:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp5.orange.fr (smtp5.orange.fr [193.252.22.26]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBMIduv0003847 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 19:39:56 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [86.211.125.33] (AMarseille-256-1-178-33.w86-211.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.211.125.33]) by mwinf0513.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9F04F1C000A0 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 19:39:52 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061222183952651.9F04F1C000A0@mwinf0513.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <246C72BE-0232-4667-8F9B-0A0D6DE78865@mac.com> References: <4FF9A300-01C3-456A-97D4-A7B7AAD333FF@wanadoo.fr> <458BDDFB.4080709@univ-lille1.fr> <3BF77ABB-59A2-4A77-9C99-520303CCAE47@wanadoo.fr> <246C72BE-0232-4667-8F9B-0A0D6DE78865@mac.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-81--472970690 Message-Id: <3F367B5A-5CC7-47AA-9250-E4DBD25C3444@wanadoo.fr> From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: [gut] pstricks, asymptote, pgf Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 19:39:50 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 22 Dec 2006 19:39:57 +0100 (CET) --Apple-Mail-81--472970690 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Le 22 d=E9c. 06 =E0 18:47, Frank STENGEL a =E9crit : > > Dans Terminal : > > kpsewhich pgf.sty > kpsewhich tikz.sty > > J'avais cherch=E9: amarseille-256-1-33-86:~/Desktop/segece jver$ kpsewhich pgf.sty /sw/share/texmf/tex/generic/pgf/latex/pgf/basiclayer/pgf.sty Il est bien l=E0 o=F9 je l'ai mis (entre temps, j'avais cherch=E9 dans=20= =20 usr/ et il n'y avait rien. Pour tikz, : amarseille-256-1-33-86:~/Desktop/segece jver$ kpsewhich tikz.sty /sw/share/texmf/tex/generic/pgf/latex/pgf/frontendlayer/tikz.sty Je reprends l'exemple copi=E9 de la page 17 du manuel (J'ai essay=E9=20=20 \usepackage{pgflibraryplothandlers} et \usepgflibrary{plothandlers} sans succ=E8s): ------------------ \documentclass{article} % say \usepackage{tikz} %\usepackage{pgflibraryplothandlers} %\usepgflibrary{plothandlers} \begin{document} \begin{tikzpicture} \draw (-1.5,0) -- (1.5,0); \draw (0,-1.5) -- (0,1.5); \end{tikzpicture}. \end{document} ---------------------- et =E7=E0 merdouille lamentablement: --Apple-Mail-81--472970690 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: application/octet-stream; x-unix-mode=0644; name=p17.log Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=p17.log This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4) (format=pdflatex 2005.12.16) 22 DEC 2006 19:34 entering extended mode **p17.tex (./p17.tex LaTeX2e <2003/12/01> Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman, b ahasa, basque, bulgarian, catalan, croatian, czech, danish, dutch, esperanto, e stonian, finnish, greek, icelandic, irish, italian, latin, magyar, norsk, polis h, portuges, romanian, russian, serbian, slovak, slovene, spanish, swedish, tur kish, ukrainian, nohyphenation, loaded. 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Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! LaTeX Error: Missing \begin{document}. See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation. Type H for immediate help. ... l.324 \pgfdeclareverticalshading[ tikz@axis@top,tikz@axis@middle,tikz@axis@bo... You're in trouble here. Try typing to proceed. If that doesn't work, type X to quit. Overfull \hbox (91.14009pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 324--330 []\OT1/cmr/m/n/10 [tikz@axis@top,tikz@axis@middle,tikz@axis@bottom]axis100bpcol or(0bp)=(tikz@axis@bottom); [] Overfull \hbox (87.93637pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 324--330 \OT1/cmr/m/n/10 color(25bp)=(tikz@axis@bottom); color(50bp)=(tikz@axis@middle); color(75bp)=(tikz@axis@top); [] ! Undefined control sequence. l.335 \pgfdeclareradialshading [tikz@ball]{ball}{\pgfqpoint{-10bp}{10bp}}{% The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! LaTeX Error: Missing \begin{document}. See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation. Type H for immediate help. ... l.335 \pgfdeclareradialshading[ tikz@ball]{ball}{\pgfqpoint{-10bp}{10bp}}{% You're in trouble here. Try typing to proceed. If that doesn't work, type X to quit. ! Undefined control sequence. l.335 ...radialshading[tikz@ball]{ball}{\pgfqpoint {-10bp}{10bp}}{% The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. Overfull \hbox (66.26031pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 335--341 []\OT1/cmr/m/n/10 [tikz@ball]ball-10bp10bpcolor(0bp)=(tikz@ball!15!white); colo r(9bp)=(tikz@ball!75!white); [] Overfull \hbox (42.49178pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 335--341 \OT1/cmr/m/n/10 color(18bp)=(tikz@ball!70!black); color(25bp)=(tikz@ball!50!bla ck); color(50bp)=(black) [] ! Undefined control sequence. l.344 \pgfdeclareradialshading [tikz@radial@inner,tikz@radial@outer]{radial}{... The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! LaTeX Error: Missing \begin{document}. See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation. Type H for immediate help. ... l.344 \pgfdeclareradialshading[ tikz@radial@inner,tikz@radial@outer]{radial}{... You're in trouble here. Try typing to proceed. If that doesn't work, type X to quit. ! Undefined control sequence. l.344 ...ikz@radial@outer]{radial}{\pgfpointorigin }{% The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. Overfull \hbox (4.94533pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 344--348 []\OT1/cmr/m/n/10 [tikz@radial@inner,tikz@radial@outer]radialcolor(0bp)=(tikz@r adial@inner); [] ! Undefined control sequence. l.526 \pgfresetnontranslationattimetrue % The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. \pgfarrowsdeclarealias {tikzs@<@to}{tikze@>@to}{\pgf@arrows@inver... l.677 \tikz@set@pointed{\pgf@arrows@invertto}{to} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! LaTeX Error: Missing \begin{document}. See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation. Type H for immediate help. ... l.677 \tikz@set@pointed{\pgf@arrows@invertto}{to} You're in trouble here. Try typing to proceed. If that doesn't work, type X to quit. ! Undefined control sequence. ...o}{tikze@>@to}{\pgf@arrows@invertto }{to}\pgfarrowsdeclarereve... l.677 \tikz@set@pointed{\pgf@arrows@invertto}{to} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. ...rtto }{to}\pgfarrowsdeclarereversed {tikzs@>@to}{tikze@<@to}{\... l.677 \tikz@set@pointed{\pgf@arrows@invertto}{to} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. ...o}{tikze@<@to}{\pgf@arrows@invertto }{to}\pgfarrowsdeclarecomb... l.677 \tikz@set@pointed{\pgf@arrows@invertto}{to} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. ...ertto }{to}\pgfarrowsdeclarecombine *{tikz@|<@to}{tikz@>|@to}{... l.677 \tikz@set@pointed{\pgf@arrows@invertto}{to} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. ...o}{tikz@>|@to}{\pgf@arrows@invertto }{to}{|}{|}\pgfarrowsdecla... l.677 \tikz@set@pointed{\pgf@arrows@invertto}{to} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. ... }{to}{|}{|}\pgfarrowsdeclaredouble [\pgflinewidth ]{tikzs@<<@... l.677 \tikz@set@pointed{\pgf@arrows@invertto}{to} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. ...farrowsdeclaredouble [\pgflinewidth ]{tikzs@<<@to}{tikze@>>@to... l.677 \tikz@set@pointed{\pgf@arrows@invertto}{to} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. ...}{tikze@>>@to}{\pgf@arrows@invertto }{to}\pgfarrowsdeclarereve... l.677 \tikz@set@pointed{\pgf@arrows@invertto}{to} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. ...rtto }{to}\pgfarrowsdeclarereversed {tikzs@>>@to}{tikze@<<@to}... l.677 \tikz@set@pointed{\pgf@arrows@invertto}{to} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. Overfull \hbox (355.55728pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 677--679 []\OT1/cmr/m/n/10 tikzs@<@totikze@>@tototikzs@>@totikze@<@toto*tikz@|<@totikz@> |@toto||[]tikzs@<<@totikze@>>@tototikzs@>>@totikze@<<@totikzs@<<@totikze@>>@to [] Underfull \hbox (badness 10000) in paragraph at lines 677--679 [] ! Undefined control sequence. \tikz@set@growth ...=#1\relax \else \c@pgf@counta =\csname tikz@grow@directi... l.821 \tikz@orig@setkeys{tikz}{grow=down} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! LaTeX Error: Missing \begin{document}. See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation. Type H for immediate help. ... l.821 \tikz@orig@setkeys{tikz}{grow=down} You're in trouble here. Try typing to proceed. If that doesn't work, type X to quit. ! Undefined control sequence. \tikz@set@growth ...ngle@grow {\the \c@pgf@counta }\advance \c@pgf@counta by... l.821 \tikz@orig@setkeys{tikz}{grow=down} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! You can't use `end-group character }' after \the. \tikz@set@growth ...gle@grow {\the \c@pgf@counta } \advance \c@pgf@counta by-... l.821 \tikz@orig@setkeys{tikz}{grow=down} I'm forgetting what you said and using zero instead. ! Undefined control sequence. \tikz@set@growth ...ounta }\advance \c@pgf@counta by-90\relax \edef \tikz@an... l.821 \tikz@orig@setkeys{tikz}{grow=down} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. \tikz@set@growth ...x \edef \tikz@angle@grow@left {\the \c@pgf@counta }\adva... l.821 \tikz@orig@setkeys{tikz}{grow=down} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. \tikz@set@growth ...grow@left {\the \c@pgf@counta }\advance \c@pgf@counta by... l.821 \tikz@orig@setkeys{tikz}{grow=down} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! You can't use `end-group character }' after \the. \tikz@set@growth ...row@left {\the \c@pgf@counta } \advance \c@pgf@counta by1... l.821 \tikz@orig@setkeys{tikz}{grow=down} I'm forgetting what you said and using zero instead. ! Undefined control sequence. \tikz@set@growth ...ounta }\advance \c@pgf@counta by180\relax \edef \tikz@an... l.821 \tikz@orig@setkeys{tikz}{grow=down} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. \tikz@set@growth ... \edef \tikz@angle@grow@right {\the \c@pgf@counta } l.821 \tikz@orig@setkeys{tikz}{grow=down} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. \tikz@set@growth ...row@right {\the \c@pgf@counta } l.821 \tikz@orig@setkeys{tikz}{grow=down} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! You can't use `end-group character }' after \the. \tikz@set@growth ...ow@right {\the \c@pgf@counta } l.821 \tikz@orig@setkeys{tikz}{grow=down} I'm forgetting what you said and using zero instead. ! Undefined control sequence. l.852 \let\pgf@snake@mirror =\pgfutil@empty% The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. l.1633 \pgfpathmoveto {\tikz@last@position}% The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. l.1633 \pgfpathmoveto{\tikz@last@position }% The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. l.1634 \let\tikz@moveto@waiting =\relax% The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. l.1636 \tikz@scan@next@command % The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. l.1639 \let\tikz@moveto@waiting =\relax % normally, nothing is waiting... The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. l.1641 \def\tikz@flush@moveto {% The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. l.1644 \pgfpathmoveto {\tikz@last@position}% The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. l.1644 \pgfpathmoveto{\tikz@last@position }% The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. l.1646 \let\tikz@moveto@waiting =\relax% The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. l.1650 \def\tikz@flush@moveto@toward #1#2#3{% The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Illegal parameter number in definition of \tikz@angle@grow. 1 l.1650 \def\tikz@flush@moveto@toward#1 #2#3{% You meant to type ## instead of #, right? Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere earlier, and things are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##. ! Illegal parameter number in definition of \tikz@angle@grow. 2 l.1650 \def\tikz@flush@moveto@toward#1#2 #3{% You meant to type ## instead of #, right? Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere earlier, and things are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##. ! Illegal parameter number in definition of \tikz@angle@grow. 3 l.1650 \def\tikz@flush@moveto@toward#1#2#3 {% You meant to type ## instead of #, right? Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere earlier, and things are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##. ! Undefined control sequence. \pgfpointshapeborder {\tikz@moveto@waiting }{##1} l.1657 ...ntshapeborder{\tikz@moveto@waiting}{#1}} % The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. ...ntshapeborder {\tikz@moveto@waiting }{##1} l.1657 ...ntshapeborder{\tikz@moveto@waiting}{#1}} % The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Illegal parameter number in definition of \tikz@angle@grow. 1 l.1657 ...ntshapeborder{\tikz@moveto@waiting}{#1}} % You meant to type ## instead of #, right? Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere earlier, and things are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##. ! Illegal parameter number in definition of \tikz@angle@grow. 2 l.1658 #2 =\pgf@x% You meant to type ## instead of #, right? Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere earlier, and things are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##. ! Illegal parameter number in definition of \tikz@angle@grow. 3 l.1659 #3 =\pgf@y% You meant to type ## instead of #, right? Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere earlier, and things are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##. ! Undefined control sequence. l.1660 \edef\tikz@timer@start {\noexpand\pgfqpoint{\the\pgf@x}{\the\pgf@y}}% The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. l.1661 \pgfpathmoveto {\pgfqpoint{\pgf@x}{\pgf@y}}% The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. l.1661 \pgfpathmoveto{\pgfqpoint {\pgf@x}{\pgf@y}}% The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. l.1663 \let\tikz@moveto@waiting =\relax% The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. l.1671 \def\tikz@collect@coordinate@onpath #1coordinate{% The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Illegal parameter number in definition of \tikz@angle@grow. 1 l.1671 \def\tikz@collect@coordinate@onpath#1 coordinate{% You meant to type ## instead of #, right? Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere earlier, and things are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##. ! Undefined control sequence. \pgfutil@ifnextchar ...->\let \pgfutil@reserved@d =#1\def \pgfutil@reserved@... l.1672 ...pt#1}{\tikz@@collect@coordinate@opt#1[]} }%} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. \pgfutil@ifnextchar ...#1\def \pgfutil@reserved@a {#2}\def \pgfutil@reserved... l.1672 ...pt#1}{\tikz@@collect@coordinate@opt#1[]} }%} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. \tikz@@collect@coordinate@opt ##1 l.1672 ...pt#1}{\tikz@@collect@coordinate@opt#1[]} }%} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Illegal parameter number in definition of \tikz@angle@grow. 1 l.1672 ...pt#1}{\tikz@@collect@coordinate@opt#1[]} }%} You meant to type ## instead of #, right? Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere earlier, and things are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##. ! Undefined control sequence. \pgfutil@ifnextchar ...2}\def \pgfutil@reserved@b {#3}\futurelet \pgfutil@le... l.1672 ...pt#1}{\tikz@@collect@coordinate@opt#1[]} }%} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. \tikz@@collect@coordinate@opt ##1[] l.1672 ...pt#1}{\tikz@@collect@coordinate@opt#1[]} }%} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Illegal parameter number in definition of \tikz@angle@grow. 1 l.1672 ...pt#1}{\tikz@@collect@coordinate@opt#1[]} }%} You meant to type ## instead of #, right? Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere earlier, and things are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##. ! Undefined control sequence. \pgfutil@ifnextchar ...turelet \pgfutil@let@token \pgfutil@ifnch l.1672 ...pt#1}{\tikz@@collect@coordinate@opt#1[]} }%} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. \pgfutil@ifnch ...rved@d \let \pgfutil@reserved@c \pgfutil@reserved@a \else ... l.1672 ...pt#1}{\tikz@@collect@coordinate@opt#1[]} }%} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. \pgfutil@ifnch ...@reserved@c \pgfutil@reserved@a \else \let \pgfutil@reserv... l.1672 ...pt#1}{\tikz@@collect@coordinate@opt#1[]} }%} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. \pgfutil@ifnch ...d@b \fi \fi \pgfutil@reserved@c l.1672 ...pt#1}{\tikz@@collect@coordinate@opt#1[]} }%} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. l.1673 \def\tikz@@collect@coordinate@opt #1[#2]{% The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Illegal parameter number in definition of \tikz@angle@grow. 1 l.1673 \def\tikz@@collect@coordinate@opt#1 [#2]{% You meant to type ## instead of #, right? Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere earlier, and things are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##. ! Illegal parameter number in definition of \tikz@angle@grow. 2 l.1673 \def\tikz@@collect@coordinate@opt#1[#2 ]{% You meant to type ## instead of #, right? Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere earlier, and things are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##. ! Undefined control sequence. \pgfutil@ifnextchar ...->\let \pgfutil@reserved@d =#1\def \pgfutil@reserved@... l.1675 ...bel@onpath#1node[shape=coordinate,#2]{}} }%} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. \pgfutil@ifnextchar ...#1\def \pgfutil@reserved@a {#2}\def \pgfutil@reserved... l.1675 ...bel@onpath#1node[shape=coordinate,#2]{}} }%} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. \tikz@@collect@coordinate ##1[##2] l.1675 ...bel@onpath#1node[shape=coordinate,#2]{}} }%} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Illegal parameter number in definition of \tikz@angle@grow. 1 l.1675 ...bel@onpath#1node[shape=coordinate,#2]{}} }%} You meant to type ## instead of #, right? Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere earlier, and things are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##. ! Illegal parameter number in definition of \tikz@angle@grow. 2 l.1675 ...bel@onpath#1node[shape=coordinate,#2]{}} }%} You meant to type ## instead of #, right? Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere earlier, and things are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##. ! Undefined control sequence. \pgfutil@ifnextchar ...2}\def \pgfutil@reserved@b {#3}\futurelet \pgfutil@le... l.1675 ...bel@onpath#1node[shape=coordinate,#2]{}} }%} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. \tikz@collect@label@onpath ##1node[shape=coordinate,##2]{} l.1675 ...bel@onpath#1node[shape=coordinate,#2]{}} }%} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Illegal parameter number in definition of \tikz@angle@grow. 1 l.1675 ...bel@onpath#1node[shape=coordinate,#2]{}} }%} You meant to type ## instead of #, right? Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere earlier, and things are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##. ! Illegal parameter number in definition of \tikz@angle@grow. 2 l.1675 ...bel@onpath#1node[shape=coordinate,#2]{}} }%} You meant to type ## instead of #, right? Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere earlier, and things are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##. ! Undefined control sequence. \pgfutil@ifnextchar ...turelet \pgfutil@let@token \pgfutil@ifnch l.1675 ...bel@onpath#1node[shape=coordinate,#2]{}} }%} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. \pgfutil@ifnch ...rved@d \let \pgfutil@reserved@c \pgfutil@reserved@a \else ... l.1675 ...bel@onpath#1node[shape=coordinate,#2]{}} }%} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. \pgfutil@ifnch ...@reserved@c \pgfutil@reserved@a \else \let \pgfutil@reserv... l.1675 ...bel@onpath#1node[shape=coordinate,#2]{}} }%} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. \pgfutil@ifnch ...d@b \fi \fi \pgfutil@reserved@c l.1675 ...bel@onpath#1node[shape=coordinate,#2]{}} }%} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. l.1676 \def\tikz@@collect@coordinate #1[#2](#3){% The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Illegal parameter number in definition of \tikz@angle@grow. 1 l.1676 \def\tikz@@collect@coordinate#1 [#2](#3){% You meant to type ## instead of #, right? Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere earlier, and things are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##. ! Illegal parameter number in definition of \tikz@angle@grow. 2 l.1676 \def\tikz@@collect@coordinate#1[#2 ](#3){% You meant to type ## instead of #, right? Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere earlier, and things are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##. ! Illegal parameter number in definition of \tikz@angle@grow. 3 l.1676 \def\tikz@@collect@coordinate#1[#2](#3 ){% You meant to type ## instead of #, right? Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere earlier, and things are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##. ! Undefined control sequence. l.1677 \tikz@collect@label@onpath #1node[shape=coordinate,#2](#3){}} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Illegal parameter number in definition of \tikz@angle@grow. 1 l.1677 \tikz@collect@label@onpath#1 node[shape=coordinate,#2](#3){}} You meant to type ## instead of #, right? Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere earlier, and things are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##. ! Illegal parameter number in definition of \tikz@angle@grow. 2 l.1677 ...t@label@onpath#1node[shape=coordinate,#2 ](#3){}} You meant to type ## instead of #, right? Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere earlier, and things are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##. ! Illegal parameter number in definition of \tikz@angle@grow. 3 l.1677 ...bel@onpath#1node[shape=coordinate,#2](#3 ){}} You meant to type ## instead of #, right? Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere earlier, and things are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##. ! Undefined control sequence. l.1679 \def\tikz@collect@label@onpath #1node{% The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Illegal parameter number in definition of \tikz@angle@grow. 1 l.1679 \def\tikz@collect@label@onpath#1 node{% You meant to type ## instead of #, right? Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere earlier, and things are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##. ! Undefined control sequence. l.1680 ...npath\expandafter{\tikz@collected@onpath node}% The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. \tikz@collected@onpath l.1680 ...npath\expandafter{\tikz@collected@onpath node}% The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. l.1681 \tikz@collect@label@scan #1} The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Illegal parameter number in definition of \tikz@angle@grow. 1 l.1681 \tikz@collect@label@scan#1 } You meant to type ## instead of #, right? Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere earlier, and things are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##. ! Undefined control sequence. l.1683 \def\tikz@collect@label@scan #1{% The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Illegal parameter number in definition of \tikz@angle@grow. 1 l.1683 \def\tikz@collect@label@scan#1 {% You meant to type ## instead of #, right? Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere earlier, and things are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##. ! Undefined control sequence. \pgfutil@ifnextchar ...->\let \pgfutil@reserved@d =#1\def \pgfutil@reserved@... l.1687 {#1}}} % The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. \pgfutil@ifnextchar ...#1\def \pgfutil@reserved@a {#2}\def \pgfutil@reserved... l.1687 {#1}}} % The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. \tikz@collect@paran ##1 l.1687 {#1}}} % The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Illegal parameter number in definition of \tikz@angle@grow. 1 l.1687 {#1}}} % You meant to type ## instead of #, right? Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere earlier, and things are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##. ! Undefined control sequence. \pgfutil@ifnextchar ...2}\def \pgfutil@reserved@b {#3}\futurelet \pgfutil@le... l.1687 {#1}}} % The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. \pgfutil@ifnextchar ...->\let \pgfutil@reserved@d =#1\def \pgfutil@reserved@... l.1687 {#1}}} % The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. \pgfutil@ifnextchar ...#1\def \pgfutil@reserved@a {#2}\def \pgfutil@reserved... l.1687 {#1}}} % The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. \tikz@collect@options ##1 l.1687 {#1}}} % The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Illegal parameter number in definition of \tikz@angle@grow. 1 l.1687 {#1}}} % You meant to type ## instead of #, right? Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere earlier, and things are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##. ! Undefined control sequence. \pgfutil@ifnextchar ...2}\def \pgfutil@reserved@b {#3}\futurelet \pgfutil@le... l.1687 {#1}}} % The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. \pgfutil@ifnextchar ...->\let \pgfutil@reserved@d =#1\def \pgfutil@reserved@... l.1687 {#1}}} % The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. \pgfutil@ifnextchar ...#1\def \pgfutil@reserved@a {#2}\def \pgfutil@reserved... l.1687 {#1}}} % The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. \tikz@collect@arg ##1 l.1687 {#1}}} % The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Illegal parameter number in definition of \tikz@angle@grow. 1 l.1687 {#1}}} % You meant to type ## instead of #, right? Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere earlier, and things are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##. ! Undefined control sequence. \pgfutil@ifnextchar ...2}\def \pgfutil@reserved@b {#3}\futurelet \pgfutil@le... l.1687 {#1}}} % The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Illegal parameter number in definition of \tikz@angle@grow. 1 l.1687 {#1}}} % You meant to type ## instead of #, right? Or maybe a } was forgotten somewhere earlier, and things are all screwed up? I'm going to assume that you meant ##. ! Undefined control sequence. \pgfutil@ifnextchar ...turelet \pgfutil@let@token \pgfutil@ifnch l.1687 {#1}}} % The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. \pgfutil@ifnch ...rved@d \let \pgfutil@reserved@c \pgfutil@reserved@a \else ... l.1687 {#1}}} % The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. \pgfutil@ifnch ...@reserved@c \pgfutil@reserved@a \else \let \pgfutil@reserv... l.1687 {#1}}} % The control sequence at the end of the top line of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue, and I'll forget about whatever was undefined. ! Undefined control sequence. \pgfutil@ifnch ...d@b \fi \fi \pgfutil@reserved@c l.1687 {#1}}} % (That makes 100 errors; please try again.) Here is how much of TeX's memory you used: 2278 strings out of 94500 31962 string characters out of 1176113 81140 words of memory out of 1000000 5470 multiletter control sequences out of 10000+50000 3640 words of font info for 14 fonts, out of 500000 for 2000 580 hyphenation exceptions out of 1000 39i,0n,42p,205b,46s stack positions out of 1500i,500n,5000p,200000b,5000s PDF statistics: 0 PDF objects out of 300000 0 named destinations out of 131072 1 words of extra memory for PDF output out of 65536 No pages of output. --Apple-Mail-81--472970690 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: application/octet-stream; x-unix-mode=0644; name=p17.tex Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=p17.tex \listfiles \documentclass{article} % say \usepackage{tikz} %\usepackage{pgflibraryplothandlers} %\usepgflibrary{plothandlers} \begin{document} \begin{tikzpicture} \draw (-1.5,0) -- (1.5,0); \draw (0,-1.5) -- (0,1.5); \end{tikzpicture}. \end{document} --Apple-Mail-81--472970690 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Ma foi!!! Bon No=EBl tout de m=EAme. Jacques Vernin --Apple-Mail-81--472970690-- From - Fri Dec 22 19:40:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr (smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr [193.252.23.120] (may be forged)) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBMIe3nE003984 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 19:40:03 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0113.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7FE1B700008F for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 19:40:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (ALille-257-1-118-106.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.198.237.106]) by mwinf0113.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 47A39700008E for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 19:40:03 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061222184003293.47A39700008E@mwinf0113.orange.fr X-ME-User-Auth: dbitouze Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 19:40:36 +0100 From: Denis =?ISO-8859-1?B?Qml0b3V66Q==?= To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] pstricks, asymptote, pgf Message-ID: <20061222194037.0d24d01a@localhost> In-Reply-To: <4FF9A300-01C3-456A-97D4-A7B7AAD333FF@wanadoo.fr> References: <4FF9A300-01C3-456A-97D4-A7B7AAD333FF@wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.3; i586-mandriva-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 22 Dec 2006 19:40:03 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBMIe3nE003984 Le Fri, 22 Dec 2006 10:41:10 +0100 "pir2.jv" a écrit : > Honte!!! Meuh nan ! > Ayant besoin de quelques croquis dans un document qui est assez > lourd, je les ai réalisés avec pstricks (splendide, après quelques > tatonnements) ... Bonne idée. > Puis, j'ai voulu les intégrer dans mon document jusqu'à ce que je me > rappelle que je ne pouvais utiliser pdflatex pour des croquis en > pstricks. Effectivement. > J'ai donc, du, horreur, dans l'urgence, rogner ma sortie > (dvips ...) Pas compris, là. > pour en faire un document pdf que j'ai intégré. Mais la > qualité est moyenne; Ah bon ?! Comment ça ? > puis, c'est tout de même peu élégant!! Ça dépend, ça peut l'un des deux seuls moyens de faire (du .pdf avec des vrais morceaux de pstricks dans le .tex) : 1) .tex -> .dvi (par latex) puis .dvi -> .ps (par dvips) puis .ps -> .pdf (par ps2pdf) 2) .tex -> .pdf (par ps4pdf, en recourant au package pst-pdf). > Alors, je consulte le document de M Bitouzé, qui est très bien fait > (http://www- lmpa.univ- littoral.fr/) sur Latex, Merci, je rougis... mais est-ce vraiment à cette adresse que tu as trouvé ce(s) document(s) ? > qui vante les > mérites, si on utilise pdflatex, d'Asymptote (http:// > asymptote.sourceforge.net/index.html) et de pkg ( http:// > sourceforge.net/projects/pgf/). > > [...] Joker... pour l'instant : il faut reconnaître que tikz est alléchant (cf. par exemple les dernières réalisations d'Alain Matthes : http://altermundus.fr/SandBox/fonct-annales.pdf). Son problème est l'absence quasi totale de bibliothèques spécialisées. -- Denis From - Fri Dec 22 19:51:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (smtp20.orange.fr [193.252.22.29]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBMIpjBu012832 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 19:51:45 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [86.211.125.33] (AMarseille-256-1-178-33.w86-211.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.211.125.33]) by mwinf2017.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4529B1C0009D for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 19:51:45 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061222185145283.4529B1C0009D@mwinf2017.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20061222194037.0d24d01a@localhost> References: <4FF9A300-01C3-456A-97D4-A7B7AAD333FF@wanadoo.fr> <20061222194037.0d24d01a@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0349464A-E6C2-4672-90E6-0A83B16074BC@wanadoo.fr> From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: [gut] pstricks, asymptote, pgf Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 19:51:42 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 22 Dec 2006 19:51:45 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBMIpjBu012832 Le 22 déc. 06 à 19:40, Denis Bitouzé a écrit : > >> pour en faire un document pdf que j'ai intégré. Mais la >> qualité est moyenne; > > Ah bon ?! Comment ça ? Simple et bête. J'ai le document pdf (à partir du dvi). Je l'ouvre avec graphic converter, je prends le morceau qui m'intéresse, je crée un nouveau fichier pdf que j'intègre dans mon texte. > >> puis, c'est tout de même peu élégant!! > > Ça dépend, ça peut l'un des deux seuls moyens de faire (du .pdf avec > des vrais morceaux de pstricks dans le .tex) : > > 1) .tex -> .dvi (par latex) puis .dvi -> .ps (par dvips) puis .ps > -> .pdf (par ps2pdf) > > 2) .tex -> .pdf (par ps4pdf, en recourant au package pst-pdf). Sur Mac, quand je "double-clique" sur un .dvi, il s'ouvre avec Texshop (que je n'utilise pas) et me fabrique un pdf directement. Il y a aussi la solution d'imagemagick: convert truc.dvi truc.pdf > >> Alors, je consulte le document de M Bitouzé, qui est très bien fait >> (http://www- lmpa.univ- littoral.fr/) sur Latex, > > Merci, je rougis... mais est-ce vraiment à cette adresse que tu as > trouvé ce(s) document(s) ? Non, peut-être pas, mais c'est l'adresse de la couverture du document. Merci pour ce travail bien fait. Rougissez! > >> qui vante les >> mérites, si on utilise pdflatex, d'Asymptote (http:// >> asymptote.sourceforge.net/index.html) et de pkg ( http:// >> sourceforge.net/projects/pgf/). >> >> [...] > > Joker... pour l'instant : il faut reconnaître que tikz est alléchant > (cf. par exemple les dernières réalisations d'Alain Matthes : > http://altermundus.fr/SandBox/fonct-annales.pdf). Son problème est > l'absence quasi totale de bibliothèques spécialisées. > -- > Denis > > > et moi, je ne suis pas arrivé à faire quoi que ce soit. Ca a toujours merdouillé. Mais ce doit être ma faute, très grande faute ...! Bon Noël Jacques Vernin From - Fri Dec 22 20:18:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.172]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBMJHlFn036752 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 20:17:53 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from mac.com (smtpin06-en2 [10.13.10.151]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout02/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id kBMJHlWm006716 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:17:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (anancy-153-1-19-116.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.196.130.116]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin06/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id kBMJHhCL021342 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:17:45 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <3F367B5A-5CC7-47AA-9250-E4DBD25C3444@wanadoo.fr> References: <4FF9A300-01C3-456A-97D4-A7B7AAD333FF@wanadoo.fr> <458BDDFB.4080709@univ-lille1.fr> <3BF77ABB-59A2-4A77-9C99-520303CCAE47@wanadoo.fr> <246C72BE-0232-4667-8F9B-0A0D6DE78865@mac.com> <3F367B5A-5CC7-47AA-9250-E4DBD25C3444@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: From: Frank STENGEL Subject: Re: [gut] pstricks, asymptote, pgf Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 20:17:47 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 22 Dec 2006 20:17:53 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBMJHlFn036752 Le 22 déc. 06 à 19:39, pir2.jv a écrit : > J'avais cherché: > amarseille-256-1-33-86:~/Desktop/segece jver$ kpsewhich pgf.sty > /sw/share/texmf/tex/generic/pgf/latex/pgf/basiclayer/pgf.sty > Il est bien là où je l'ai mis (entre temps, j'avais cherché dans > usr/ et il n'y avait rien. > > Pour tikz, : > amarseille-256-1-33-86:~/Desktop/segece jver$ kpsewhich tikz.sty > /sw/share/texmf/tex/generic/pgf/latex/pgf/frontendlayer/tikz.sty OK > et çà merdouille lamentablement: > Dans ton log je vois la ligne : (/sw/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/pgf/pgf.sty Package: pgf 2004/10/08 ver 0.65 Ouille ! Il y a un problème de version. Je pense que cette version un peu antique de pgf est la cause de tes problèmes. La ligne ci- dessus devrait être : (/sw/share/texmf/tex/generic/pgf/latex/pgf/basiclayer/pgf.sty De plus il semble que deux versions de pgf se contredisent. D'un côté tu as la version 0.65 (a supprimer au plus vite) et de l'autre la version 1.10... > Ma foi!!! Bon Noël tout de même. De même :-) -- Frank STENGEL (fstengelmac.com) From - Fri Dec 22 21:18:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr (smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr [193.252.23.120] (may be forged)) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBMKIeSG090349 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 21:18:40 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0114.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8907F7000087 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 21:18:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (ALille-257-1-118-106.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.198.237.106]) by mwinf0114.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4E8337000085 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 21:18:38 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061222201840321.4E8337000085@mwinf0114.orange.fr X-ME-User-Auth: dbitouze Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 21:19:12 +0100 From: Denis =?ISO-8859-1?B?Qml0b3V66Q==?= To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] pstricks, asymptote, pgf Message-ID: <20061222211912.0ca4a3bd@localhost> In-Reply-To: <0349464A-E6C2-4672-90E6-0A83B16074BC@wanadoo.fr> References: <4FF9A300-01C3-456A-97D4-A7B7AAD333FF@wanadoo.fr> <20061222194037.0d24d01a@localhost> <0349464A-E6C2-4672-90E6-0A83B16074BC@wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.3; i586-mandriva-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 22 Dec 2006 21:18:40 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBMKIeSG090349 Le Fri, 22 Dec 2006 19:51:42 +0100 "pir2.jv" a écrit : > Simple et bête. J'ai le document pdf (à partir du dvi). Obtenu comment ? Via dvipdf ? > Je l'ouvre avec graphic converter, je prends le morceau qui > m'intéresse, je crée un nouveau fichier pdf que j'intègre dans mon > texte. Ah oui, beurk en effet alors ! Ouah, la honte ! ;) Je pense que le mieux dans un premier temps est d'utiliser la méthode 1) préconisée ci-dessous. Y aurait-il un utilisateur de Mac dans la salle pour indiquer à Jacques comment la mettre en oeuvre sous cet OS si... réjouissant (?) > >> puis, c'est tout de même peu élégant!! > > > > Ça dépend, ça peut l'un des deux seuls moyens de faire (du .pdf avec > > des vrais morceaux de pstricks dans le .tex) : > > > > 1) .tex -> .dvi (par latex) puis .dvi -> .ps (par dvips) puis .ps > > -> .pdf (par ps2pdf) > > > > 2) .tex -> .pdf (par ps4pdf, en recourant au package pst-pdf). > > Sur Mac, quand je "double-clique" sur un .dvi, il s'ouvre avec > Texshop (que je n'utilise pas) et me fabrique un pdf directement. Je me demande quelle est la moulinette sous-jacente. > Il y a aussi la solution d'imagemagick: > convert truc.dvi truc.pdf Euh, hum, là je n'y aurais jamais pensé ! ;) > Non, peut-être pas, mais c'est l'adresse de la couverture du > document. Merci pour ce travail bien fait. Rougissez! Ah, OK. L'ensemble des documents peut être consulté là : http://latexdunkerque.objectis.net/Members/dbitouze/DiaposConferences > et moi, je ne suis pas arrivé à faire quoi que ce soit. Ca a > toujours merdouillé. Mais ce doit être ma faute, très grande > faute ...! On en a pendu pour moi que ça, sais-tu ? > Bon Noël De même. -- Denis From - Fri Dec 22 22:13:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (smtp20.orange.fr [80.12.242.27]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBMLDnle037314 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 22:13:54 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [10.0.1.103] (APlessis-Bouchard-111-1-2-159.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr [80.11.193.159]) by mwinf2007.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 86DE91C00098 for ; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 22:13:48 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061222211348552.86DE91C00098@mwinf2007.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20061222211912.0ca4a3bd@localhost> References: <4FF9A300-01C3-456A-97D4-A7B7AAD333FF@wanadoo.fr> <20061222194037.0d24d01a@localhost> <0349464A-E6C2-4672-90E6-0A83B16074BC@wanadoo.fr> <20061222211912.0ca4a3bd@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: From: Philippe Michel Subject: Re: [gut] pstricks, asymptote, pgf Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 22:13:45 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 22 Dec 2006 22:13:55 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBMLDnle037314 Le 22 déc. 06 à 21:19, Denis Bitouzé a écrit : > Le Fri, 22 Dec 2006 19:51:42 +0100 > "pir2.jv" a écrit : > >> Simple et bête. J'ai le document pdf (à partir du dvi). > > Obtenu comment ? Via dvipdf ? > >> Je l'ouvre avec graphic converter, je prends le morceau qui >> m'intéresse, je crée un nouveau fichier pdf que j'intègre dans mon >> texte. > > Ah oui, beurk en effet alors ! Ouah, la honte ! ;) Je pense que le > mieux dans un premier temps est d'utiliser la méthode 1) préconisée > ci-dessous. Y aurait-il un utilisateur de Mac dans la salle pour > indiquer à Jacques comment la mettre en oeuvre sous cet OS si... > réjouissant (?) > >>>> puis, c'est tout de même peu élégant!! >>> >>> Ça dépend, ça peut l'un des deux seuls moyens de faire (du .pdf avec >>> des vrais morceaux de pstricks dans le .tex) : >>> >>> 1) .tex -> .dvi (par latex) puis .dvi -> .ps (par dvips) puis .ps >>> -> .pdf (par ps2pdf) >>> >>> 2) .tex -> .pdf (par ps4pdf, en recourant au package pst-pdf). >> >> Sur Mac, quand je "double-clique" sur un .dvi, il s'ouvre avec >> Texshop (que je n'utilise pas) et me fabrique un pdf directement. > > Je me demande quelle est la moulinette sous-jacente. > Un certain dvipdfm sauf erreur. Dr Philippe MICHEL From - Sat Dec 23 10:04:59 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp10.orange.fr (smtp10.orange.fr [193.252.22.21]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBN94qAu099747 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 10:04:52 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [86.211.125.33] (AMarseille-256-1-178-33.w86-211.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.211.125.33]) by mwinf1012.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D9D312400181 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 10:04:51 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061223090451893.D9D312400181@mwinf1012.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <4FF9A300-01C3-456A-97D4-A7B7AAD333FF@wanadoo.fr> <458BDDFB.4080709@univ-lille1.fr> <3BF77ABB-59A2-4A77-9C99-520303CCAE47@wanadoo.fr> <246C72BE-0232-4667-8F9B-0A0D6DE78865@mac.com> <3F367B5A-5CC7-47AA-9250-E4DBD25C3444@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2A9D6267-B2C7-4FF2-9087-CF47B60DA2E6@wanadoo.fr> From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: [gut] pstricks, asymptote, pgf Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 10:04:49 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sat, 23 Dec 2006 10:04:52 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBN94qAu099747 Le 22 déc. 06 à 20:17, Frank STENGEL a écrit : > > Dans ton log je vois la ligne : > > (/sw/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/pgf/pgf.sty > Package: pgf 2004/10/08 ver 0.65 > > Ouille ! Il y a un problème de version. Je pense que cette version > un peu antique de pgf est la cause de tes problèmes. La ligne ci- > dessus devrait être : > > (/sw/share/texmf/tex/generic/pgf/latex/pgf/basiclayer/pgf.sty > > De plus il semble que deux versions de pgf se contredisent. D'un > côté tu as la version 0.65 (a supprimer au plus vite) et de l'autre > la version 1.10... > Merci, merci. Je n'avais pas vu. La première version avait du être dans la distribution, et je ne l'avais pas vue. Merci beaucoup. L'exemple simplissime testé marche maintenant, après nettoyage. Je vais m'atteler à plus compliqué. Salut Jacques Vernin From - Sat Dec 23 10:17:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp23.orange.fr (smtp23.orange.fr [80.12.242.50]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBN9HaNU007712 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 10:17:41 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2328.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 49D55700008A for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 10:17:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from [86.211.125.33] (AMarseille-256-1-178-33.w86-211.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.211.125.33]) by mwinf2328.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0698C700008C for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 10:17:35 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061223091736271.0698C700008C@mwinf2328.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20061222211912.0ca4a3bd@localhost> References: <4FF9A300-01C3-456A-97D4-A7B7AAD333FF@wanadoo.fr> <20061222194037.0d24d01a@localhost> <0349464A-E6C2-4672-90E6-0A83B16074BC@wanadoo.fr> <20061222211912.0ca4a3bd@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: [gut] pstricks, asymptote, pgf Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 10:17:34 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sat, 23 Dec 2006 10:17:41 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBN9HaNU007712 Le 22 déc. 06 à 21:19, Denis Bitouzé a écrit : > > Ah oui, beurk en effet alors ! Ouah, la honte ! ;) Je pense que le > mieux dans un premier temps est d'utiliser la méthode 1) préconisée > ci-dessous. Y aurait-il un utilisateur de Mac dans la salle pour > indiquer à Jacques comment la mettre en oeuvre sous cet OS si... > réjouissant (?) Je ne comprends pas. Avec tes méthodes, quelle qu'elle soit, tu obtiens un .pdf. Mais là n'est pas la question. Sauf si je me trompe, ce pdf est une page, même si le graphique est de , par ex, 3x3 cm. (peut-être des paramètrages existent-ils pour cliper directement, mais je ne les connais pas ?) Donc, pour l'intégrer je suis bien obligé d'en rogner les bords (cliper ?) pour avoir un document 3x3. Ce que je trouve puissant dans pstricks, c'est de mettre le code à l'intérieur de mon fichier latex. C'est propre et la qualité est meilleure que le résultat des manipulations de colle et de ciseaux. Donc, d'après moi, l'élégance, elle ne réside pas dans la manière d'obtenir un pdf, elle réside dans la possibilité de ne pas en avoir besoin ! D'où mes tentatives (peu fructueuses) de pgf. > > > Jacques Vernin From - Sat Dec 23 11:09:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from relay-bv.club-internet.fr (relay-bv.club-internet.fr [194.158.96.102]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBNA9jFq039190 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 11:09:50 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from rbastian (c01m-62-34-75-6.n.club-internet.fr [62.34.75.6]) by relay-bv.club-internet.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 30B382560E for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 11:09:44 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Ren=E9=20Bastian?= Organization: Ecchymoses To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] pstricks, asymptote, pgf Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 11:03:50 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <4FF9A300-01C3-456A-97D4-A7B7AAD333FF@wanadoo.fr> <20061222211912.0ca4a3bd@localhost> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <06122311035000.00752@rbastian> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sat, 23 Dec 2006 11:09:50 +0100 (CET) Le Samedi 23 Décembre 2006 10:17, pir2.jv a écrit : [...] > Donc, pour l'intégrer je suis bien obligé d'en rogner les bords > (cliper ?) pour avoir un document 3x3. [...] > > Jacques Vernin Pour inclure des textes/images prduits par la chaîne "tex - dvi - ps" dans des pages HTML je fabrique des images jpg avec la ligne : -------------- convert $1.ps -colorize 0,100,0 -crop 460x322+77+113 $1.jpg #le crop place le (x,y) initial à (77,133) en-dessous #du coin gauche supérieur de l'image primitive #à partir de ce coin il découpe une image de 460x322 #toutes les mesures en pts PostScript ## tout ça est à adapter - mais un exemple explique mieux ## qu'une généralisation --------------- Latex a l'avantage de mettre un texte (quel qu'il soit) toujours au même endroit. Le rognage devient "reproductible" et toute la chaîne se met dans un script : convert est, je crois, un sous-produit (?) d'image-magic qui (peut-être) se trouve aussi sur le unix-like caché sous le OS X. -- René Bastian http://www.musiques-rb.org http://pythoneon.musiques-rb.org From - Sat Dec 23 11:48:40 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp6.orange.fr (smtp6.orange.fr [193.252.22.25]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBNAmUJK066510 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 11:48:30 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [86.211.125.33] (AMarseille-256-1-178-33.w86-211.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.211.125.33]) by mwinf0607.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C510B1C001E1 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 11:48:29 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061223104829807.C510B1C001E1@mwinf0607.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <06122311035000.00752@rbastian> References: <4FF9A300-01C3-456A-97D4-A7B7AAD333FF@wanadoo.fr> <20061222211912.0ca4a3bd@localhost> <06122311035000.00752@rbastian> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0B0BEAC2-F6F8-4B2C-B2AC-1FA6588CE23F@wanadoo.fr> From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: [gut] pstricks, asymptote, pgf Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 11:48:27 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sat, 23 Dec 2006 11:48:30 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBNAmUJK066510 Bonjour! Le 23 déc. 06 à 11:03, René Bastian a écrit : > > Pour inclure des textes/images prduits par la chaîne "tex - dvi - ps" > dans des pages HTML je fabrique des images jpg avec la ligne : > > -------------- > convert $1.ps -colorize 0,100,0 -crop 460x322+77+113 $1.jpg > #le crop place le (x,y) initial à (77,133) en-dessous > #du coin gauche supérieur de l'image primitive > #à partir de ce coin il découpe une image de 460x322 > #toutes les mesures en pts PostScript > > ## tout ça est à adapter - mais un exemple explique mieux > ## qu'une généralisation > --------------- > > Latex a l'avantage de mettre un texte (quel qu'il soit) toujours > au même endroit. Le rognage devient "reproductible" et toute la > chaîne se met dans un script : > > convert est, je crois, un sous-produit (?) d'image-magic qui (peut- > être) > se trouve aussi sur le unix-like caché sous le OS X. Pourquoi unix-like. Pour moi, mais peut-être ai-je mal compris, c'est unix auquel on a ajouté une couche (ou linux, je ne sais pas) > > Oui, j'obtiens ainsi un truc.jpg; Je peux même obtenir directement un pdf: amarseille-256-1-33-86:~/Desktop/segece jver$ convert pst.dvi - colorize 0,100,0 -crop 220x160+77+113 pst.pdf (les teintes ne sont pas terribles!!). Mais la question n'est pas là. Finalement, tu obtiens un fichier que je peux intégrer dans mon latex. Certes. Mais si tu l'agrandis, mettons, 10 fois, on voit que sa qualité est abominable. Si je fais avec pstricks et traite par latex ..., la qualité est snobante; Si j'essaie pgf, et traite par pdflatex, idem D'où mes tentatives de m'affranchir de la chaîne qui aboutit à des croquis de mauvaise qualité. Salut Jacques Vernin From - Sat Dec 23 12:10:48 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp14.orange.fr (smtp14.orange.fr [193.252.23.69]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBNBAeuK082183 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 12:10:40 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [86.211.125.33] (AMarseille-256-1-178-33.w86-211.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.211.125.33]) by mwinf1401.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 317B2700008B for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 12:10:40 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061223111040202.317B2700008B@mwinf1401.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <0B0BEAC2-F6F8-4B2C-B2AC-1FA6588CE23F@wanadoo.fr> References: <4FF9A300-01C3-456A-97D4-A7B7AAD333FF@wanadoo.fr> <20061222211912.0ca4a3bd@localhost> <06122311035000.00752@rbastian> <0B0BEAC2-F6F8-4B2C-B2AC-1FA6588CE23F@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <8736A01F-90CB-4AFB-984D-CC2D393B72A9@wanadoo.fr> From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: [gut] pstricks, asymptote, pgf Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 12:10:38 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sat, 23 Dec 2006 12:10:40 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBNBAeuK082183 Grâce soit rendue à votre précieuse aide. Je remercie tous ceux qui m'ont dépatouillé. J'en profite maintenant que je suis arrivé à créer quelques graphiques avec pgf, pour poser une nouvelle question. Je sais créer un croquis qui mesure, par exemple, 5x5 cm. Je voudrais l'intégrer dans mon texte de manière à ce qu'il soit à gauche , par exemple, de la page, et le texte étant autour. Quand il s'agit d'une image que j'ajoute, par ex chose.pdf, je dispose du package picins, et j'écris, dans mon texte: \parpic{\fbox{\includegraphics[width=5cm]{chose}}} tchabada .... J'ai quelquefois des surprises, mais cela marche assez bien. Qui sait si je peux faire la même chose avec des croquis créés avec pgf? ou avec pstricks d'ailleurs. Je regarde la doc et je ne vois pas. Merci Jacques Vernin From - Sat Dec 23 15:04:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.181]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBNE3lTP029361 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 15:03:52 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from mac.com (smtpin04-en2 [10.13.10.149]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout11/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id kBNE3kLx005173 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 06:03:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (anancy-153-1-81-59.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.51.108.59]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin04/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id kBNE3hkS007180 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 06:03:45 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <8736A01F-90CB-4AFB-984D-CC2D393B72A9@wanadoo.fr> References: <4FF9A300-01C3-456A-97D4-A7B7AAD333FF@wanadoo.fr> <20061222211912.0ca4a3bd@localhost> <06122311035000.00752@rbastian> <0B0BEAC2-F6F8-4B2C-B2AC-1FA6588CE23F@wanadoo.fr> <8736A01F-90CB-4AFB-984D-CC2D393B72A9@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5A490C06-8F0E-4D3E-832C-CA9A4FC7B154@mac.com> From: Frank STENGEL Subject: Re: [gut] pstricks, asymptote, pgf Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 15:03:46 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sat, 23 Dec 2006 15:03:53 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBNE3lTP029361 Le 23 déc. 06 à 12:10, pir2.jv a écrit : > Je voudrais l'intégrer dans mon texte de manière à ce qu'il soit à > gauche , par exemple, de la page, et le texte étant autour. > > Quand il s'agit d'une image que j'ajoute, par ex chose.pdf, je > dispose du package picins, et j'écris, dans mon texte: > \parpic{\fbox{\includegraphics[width=5cm]{chose}}} tchabada .... Ben : \fbox{% \begin{tikzpicture} \node[circle, draw] (n0) at (0,1) {0}; \node[circle, draw] (n1) at (0,0) {1}; \node[circle, draw] (n2) at (1,0) {2}; % etc. \end{tikzpicture}% } Marche très bien, donc ton parpic devrait marcher... -- Frank STENGEL (fstengelmac.com) From - Sat Dec 23 15:20:17 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr (smtp19.orange.fr [80.12.242.19]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBNEK2qT041430 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 15:20:08 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1923.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D66311C000CD for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 15:20:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from [86.211.125.33] (AMarseille-256-1-178-33.w86-211.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.211.125.33]) by mwinf1923.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8EAD71C000B9 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 15:20:02 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061223142002584.8EAD71C000B9@mwinf1923.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <5A490C06-8F0E-4D3E-832C-CA9A4FC7B154@mac.com> References: <4FF9A300-01C3-456A-97D4-A7B7AAD333FF@wanadoo.fr> <20061222211912.0ca4a3bd@localhost> <06122311035000.00752@rbastian> <0B0BEAC2-F6F8-4B2C-B2AC-1FA6588CE23F@wanadoo.fr> <8736A01F-90CB-4AFB-984D-CC2D393B72A9@wanadoo.fr> <5A490C06-8F0E-4D3E-832C-CA9A4FC7B154@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: [gut] pstricks, asymptote, pgf Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 15:19:59 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sat, 23 Dec 2006 15:20:08 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBNEK2qT041430 Merci beaucoup; je vais essayer. Pour l'instant, donc, tous mes "problèmes" seraien résolus. J'en profite pour dire que, sur Mac, il y a un moyen d'installer facilement toutes les applications linux; ce moyen est "fink" qui est assez pratique. Je ne l'avais pas utilisé pour installer pgf. Mais je viens de regarder: il installe la version 0.65 que j'avais (je ne sais pas par quelle opération du Saint Esprit). Merci encore, pour la compétence et ... la réactivité, voire la compassion! Bonne journée. Jacques Vernin 10, Boulevard de Brazza 13008 Marseille 0491 734 736 pir2.jv@wanadoo.fr Le 23 déc. 06 à 15:03, Frank STENGEL a écrit : > > Le 23 déc. 06 à 12:10, pir2.jv a écrit : > > > >> Je voudrais l'intégrer dans mon texte de manière à ce qu'il soit >> à gauche , par exemple, de la page, et le texte étant autour. >> >> Quand il s'agit d'une image que j'ajoute, par ex chose.pdf, je >> dispose du package picins, et j'écris, dans mon texte: >> \parpic{\fbox{\includegraphics[width=5cm]{chose}}} tchabada .... > > Ben : > > \fbox{% > \begin{tikzpicture} > \node[circle, draw] (n0) at (0,1) {0}; > \node[circle, draw] (n1) at (0,0) {1}; > \node[circle, draw] (n2) at (1,0) {2}; > % etc. > \end{tikzpicture}% > } > > Marche très bien, donc ton parpic devrait marcher... > > -- > Frank STENGEL (fstengelmac.com) > > > From - Sat Dec 23 15:40:44 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.3 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.182]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBNEeWic055688 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 15:40:37 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from mac.com (smtpin04-en2 [10.13.10.149]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout12/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id kBNEeVLl027067 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 06:40:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (anancy-153-1-81-59.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.51.108.59]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin04/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id kBNEeSBt014640 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 06:40:30 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <4FF9A300-01C3-456A-97D4-A7B7AAD333FF@wanadoo.fr> <20061222211912.0ca4a3bd@localhost> <06122311035000.00752@rbastian> <0B0BEAC2-F6F8-4B2C-B2AC-1FA6588CE23F@wanadoo.fr> <8736A01F-90CB-4AFB-984D-CC2D393B72A9@wanadoo.fr> <5A490C06-8F0E-4D3E-832C-CA9A4FC7B154@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <398122A3-DA72-4EED-B6E4-06DF28C93709@mac.com> From: Frank STENGEL Subject: Re: [gut] pstricks, asymptote, pgf Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 15:40:32 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sat, 23 Dec 2006 15:40:38 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBNEeWic055688 Le 23 déc. 06 à 15:19, pir2.jv a écrit : > Merci beaucoup; je vais essayer. Pour l'instant, donc, tous mes > "problèmes" seraien résolus. > > J'en profite pour dire que, sur Mac, il y a un moyen d'installer > facilement toutes les applications linux; ce moyen est "fink" qui > est assez pratique. > Je ne l'avais pas utilisé pour installer pgf. Y'a même sans fink... Les outils unix de MikTeX sont aussi pas mal. Voir les liens suivants : http://dojo.miktex.org/blogs/christian_schenk/articles/mpmunix.aspx http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php? group_id=10783&package_id=160151 Bon, il faut le compiler, mais (chez moi) ça marche directement... -- Frank STENGEL (fstengelmac.com) From - Sat Dec 23 16:48:26 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr (smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr [193.252.23.120] (may be forged)) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBNFmIb3006847 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 16:48:19 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0113.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D05D47000087 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 16:48:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (ALille-257-1-179-224.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.1.46.224]) by mwinf0113.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A51097000083 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 16:48:18 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061223154818676.A51097000083@mwinf0113.orange.fr X-ME-User-Auth: dbitouze Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 16:48:53 +0100 From: Denis =?ISO-8859-1?B?Qml0b3V66Q==?= To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] pstricks, asymptote, pgf Message-ID: <20061223164853.5ab5f0fb@localhost> In-Reply-To: References: <4FF9A300-01C3-456A-97D4-A7B7AAD333FF@wanadoo.fr> <20061222194037.0d24d01a@localhost> <0349464A-E6C2-4672-90E6-0A83B16074BC@wanadoo.fr> <20061222211912.0ca4a3bd@localhost> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.3; i586-mandriva-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sat, 23 Dec 2006 16:48:19 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBNFmIb3006847 Le Sat, 23 Dec 2006 10:17:34 +0100 "pir2.jv" a écrit : > Je ne comprends pas. Moi non plus ! > Avec tes méthodes, quelle qu'elle soit, tu obtiens un .pdf. > Mais là n'est pas la question. Sauf si je me trompe, ce pdf est une > page, même si le graphique est de , par ex, 3x3 cm. (peut-être des > paramètrages existent-ils pour cliper directement, mais je ne les > connais pas ?) > Donc, pour l'intégrer je suis bien obligé d'en rogner les bords > (cliper ?) pour avoir un document 3x3. Je comprends rrrrien... Pourrais-tu fournir, avec un cahier des charges précis, un ECM de ce que tu veux ? -- Denis From - Sat Dec 23 18:18:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr (smtp19.orange.fr [80.12.242.1]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBNHI0GJ068237 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 18:18:05 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1926.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0078D1C000C1 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 18:18:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from [86.211.125.33] (AMarseille-256-1-178-33.w86-211.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.211.125.33]) by mwinf1926.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 942041C000B9 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 18:17:51 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061223171751606.942041C000B9@mwinf1926.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20061223164853.5ab5f0fb@localhost> References: <4FF9A300-01C3-456A-97D4-A7B7AAD333FF@wanadoo.fr> <20061222194037.0d24d01a@localhost> <0349464A-E6C2-4672-90E6-0A83B16074BC@wanadoo.fr> <20061222211912.0ca4a3bd@localhost> <20061223164853.5ab5f0fb@localhost> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-117--391493077 Message-Id: From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: [gut] pstricks, asymptote, pgf Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 18:17:47 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sat, 23 Dec 2006 18:18:05 +0100 (CET) --Apple-Mail-117--391493077 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Le 23 d=E9c. 06 =E0 16:48, Denis Bitouz=E9 a =E9crit : > Le Sat, 23 Dec 2006 10:17:34 +0100 > "pir2.jv" a =E9crit : > >> Je ne comprends pas. > > Moi non plus ! > >> Avec tes m=E9thodes, quelle qu'elle soit, tu obtiens un .pdf. >> Mais l=E0 n'est pas la question. Sauf si je me trompe, ce pdf est une >> page, m=EAme si le graphique est de , par ex, 3x3 cm. (peut-=EAtre des >> param=E8trages existent-ils pour cliper directement, mais je ne les >> connais pas ?) >> Donc, pour l'int=E9grer je suis bien oblig=E9 d'en rogner les bords >> (cliper ?) pour avoir un document 3x3. > > Je comprends rrrrien... Pourrais-tu fournir, avec un cahier des=20=20 > charges > pr=E9cis, un ECM de ce que tu veux ? > --=20 > Denis > > Un exemple, le fichier joint, fera mieux qu'un long discours. J'ai deux possibilit=E9s: - la premi=E8re: je cr=E9e le dessin avec n'importe quoi, j'en fais un=20= =20 pdf avec l'un ou l'autre des outils =E0 ma disposition, je l'int=E8gre=20= =20 avec \includegraphics? Ca marche bien, mais la qualit=E9 est d=E9gueulasse; - la deuxi=E8me; je cr=E9e =E0 l'int=E9rieur du fichier latex, avec pgf=20= =20 (puisque je suis oblig=E9, par le reste du document, d'utiliser=20=20 pdflatex, m'interdisant pstricks) Apr=E8s de nombreux tatonnements, je crois que j'obtiens exactement ce=20= =20 que je veux. 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X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr (smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr [193.252.23.120] (may be forged)) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBNMiWcS065828 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 23:44:32 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0114.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5BAC47000088 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 23:44:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (ALille-257-1-101-220.w86-198.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.198.232.220]) by mwinf0114.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2DD357000083 for ; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 23:44:32 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061223224432187.2DD357000083@mwinf0114.orange.fr X-ME-User-Auth: dbitouze Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 23:45:07 +0100 From: Denis =?ISO-8859-1?B?Qml0b3V66Q==?= To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] pstricks, asymptote, pgf Message-ID: <20061223234507.62379e6d@localhost> In-Reply-To: References: <4FF9A300-01C3-456A-97D4-A7B7AAD333FF@wanadoo.fr> <20061222194037.0d24d01a@localhost> <0349464A-E6C2-4672-90E6-0A83B16074BC@wanadoo.fr> <20061222211912.0ca4a3bd@localhost> <20061223164853.5ab5f0fb@localhost> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.3; i586-mandriva-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sat, 23 Dec 2006 23:44:32 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBNMiWcS065828 Le Sat, 23 Dec 2006 18:17:47 +0100 "pir2.jv" a écrit : > (puisque je suis obligé, par le reste du document, d'utiliser > pdflatex, m'interdisant pstricks) Tu es obligé d'utiliser pdflatex, ou bien d'obtenir un .pdf ? -- Denis From - Sun Dec 24 09:46:02 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp10.orange.fr (smtp10.orange.fr [193.252.22.21]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBO8jsgd094112 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2006 09:45:54 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [90.14.92.163] (AMarseille-256-1-169-163.w90-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.14.92.163]) by mwinf1002.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5A7442400088 for ; Sun, 24 Dec 2006 09:45:54 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061224084554371.5A7442400088@mwinf1002.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20061223234507.62379e6d@localhost> References: <4FF9A300-01C3-456A-97D4-A7B7AAD333FF@wanadoo.fr> <20061222194037.0d24d01a@localhost> <0349464A-E6C2-4672-90E6-0A83B16074BC@wanadoo.fr> <20061222211912.0ca4a3bd@localhost> <20061223164853.5ab5f0fb@localhost> <20061223234507.62379e6d@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: [gut] pstricks, asymptote, pgf Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 09:45:51 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sun, 24 Dec 2006 09:45:54 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBO8jsgd094112 Le 23 déc. 06 à 23:45, Denis Bitouzé a écrit : > Le Sat, 23 Dec 2006 18:17:47 +0100 > "pir2.jv" a écrit : > >> (puisque je suis obligé, par le reste du document, d'utiliser >> pdflatex, m'interdisant pstricks) > > Tu es obligé d'utiliser pdflatex, ou bien d'obtenir un .pdf ? Non, d'utiliser pdflatex. Enfin, obligé, plus ou moins. J'ai un document assez lourd qui contient des dizaines de figures qui ont été réalisées en pdf. Je pourrais, bien sûr, me prendre par la main et toutes les transformer en eps, mais c'est "plus simple" (???) de trouver le pstricks de pdflatex! D'autant plus que mon document contient des morceaux d'un document pdf que je n'ai pas réalisé moi-même et que j'intègre modulo pdfpages (et je ne sais pas si çà marche avec latex ??) Bon, mais la situation me semble, maintenant, sous contrôle. Grâce aux nombreuses participations obtenues ici-même. J'en remercie tous les auteurs. Bon Noël à tous! Jacques Vernin From - Mon Dec 25 15:13:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBPEDQq4005060 for ; Mon, 25 Dec 2006 15:13:31 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p48so3976269nfa for ; Mon, 25 Dec 2006 06:13:26 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=X1U9NNxZvo+sJHFDrLdu1qwubhvI96CIsjlXVZKaIiKJyQs6q26ejFiGVHw41k6Vplg0vcZBBGtoPpGCRUv/OcAVr9nUd11HRLHLduaY8CCIttio1ue3oH7ok9oqOd0pegjC+DzwxtsI+e7QeCYxZzWIsnJ7WX8BbtJu7w8Psp8= Received: by 10.49.8.15 with SMTP id l15mr15087650nfi.1167056006098; Mon, 25 Dec 2006 06:13:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.5? ( [212.198.108.3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id g1sm5781540nfe.2006.12.25.06.13.25; Mon, 25 Dec 2006 06:13:25 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <458FDC81.4070600@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2006 15:13:21 +0100 From: Alban User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061115) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LaTeX Aide Subject: Opposition \\ et \par Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 25 Dec 2006 15:13:31 +0100 (CET) Bonjour ! je pense que je vais relancer un débat sur les "\\" c'est pas bien, mais la question se pose toujours pour moi... À la place de de grandes phrases, je vais poser ma question à partir de deux exemples. 1. Minipage \begin{minipage} Premi\`ere ligne\par Autre ligne\par Derni\`ere ligne \end{minipage} 2. Author \author{Me, mine and myself\\ At home\\ Ma ville\\ Mon pays} Je sais bien que \\ produit un saut de ligne et \par un saut de paragraphe... mais quand utiliser l'un plus que l'autre, surtout quand la rendu est le même (puisque pas d'indentation par défaut dans les minipage). Plus généralement, où utiliser l'un (et ne pas l'utiliser) et où utiliser l'autre (idem). Je me pose la question d'autant plus que j'ai régulièrement entendu crier sur des gens qui utilisaient toujours "\\" (promis, je le le fais plus... d'ailleurs, je n'ose même plus les utiliser...). Merci de m'éclairer sur ce point ! (ça me ferait un beau cadeau de Noël) Joyeux Noël à tous ! Alban From - Tue Dec 26 20:37:21 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp8.orange.fr (smtp8.orange.fr [193.252.22.23]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBQJbHav017768 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 2006 20:37:17 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [86.219.60.137] (AMarseille-256-1-13-137.w86-219.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.219.60.137]) by mwinf0807.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 27CCF1C001D4 for ; Tue, 26 Dec 2006 20:37:17 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061226193717163.27CCF1C001D4@mwinf0807.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <398122A3-DA72-4EED-B6E4-06DF28C93709@mac.com> References: <4FF9A300-01C3-456A-97D4-A7B7AAD333FF@wanadoo.fr> <20061222211912.0ca4a3bd@localhost> <06122311035000.00752@rbastian> <0B0BEAC2-F6F8-4B2C-B2AC-1FA6588CE23F@wanadoo.fr> <8736A01F-90CB-4AFB-984D-CC2D393B72A9@wanadoo.fr> <5A490C06-8F0E-4D3E-832C-CA9A4FC7B154@mac.com> <398122A3-DA72-4EED-B6E4-06DF28C93709@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <16F5AA7D-9127-4F91-A972-77900769D78A@wanadoo.fr> From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: [gut] pstricks, asymptote, pgf Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 20:37:14 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 26 Dec 2006 20:37:17 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBQJbHav017768 Le 23 déc. 06 à 15:40, Frank STENGEL a écrit : > > Le 23 déc. 06 à 15:19, pir2.jv a écrit : > >> Merci beaucoup; je vais essayer. Pour l'instant, donc, tous mes >> "problèmes" seraien résolus. >> >> J'en profite pour dire que, sur Mac, il y a un moyen d'installer >> facilement toutes les applications linux; ce moyen est "fink" qui >> est assez pratique. >> Je ne l'avais pas utilisé pour installer pgf. > > Y'a même sans fink... Les outils unix de MikTeX sont aussi pas mal. > Voir les liens suivants : > > http://dojo.miktex.org/blogs/christian_schenk/articles/mpmunix.aspx > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php? > group_id=10783&package_id=160151 > > Bon, il faut le compiler, mais (chez moi) ça marche directement... > > > > -- > Frank STENGEL (fstengelmac.com) > > > Je réponds avec retard. J'ai peur de faire une c... J'installe mktex. çà fait quoi ? même genre que fink ? çà ne va pas me désorganiser tout ? Merci A Marseille, on ne souhaite pas une bonne année avant la fin de la précédente; alors, on dit "bon bout d'an". Ce que je fais! 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( [82.240.214.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id i39sm24434044ugd.2006.12.28.02.48.26; Thu, 28 Dec 2006 02:48:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4593A10B.4010307@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:48:43 +0100 From: Ghislain Dutheil User-Agent: Icedove 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] livret sous latex References: <200610271131.32936.frederic38300@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <200610271131.32936.frederic38300@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:48:33 +0100 (CET) Frederic Baldit wrote: > Bonjour, > quelqu'un sait-il s'il est possible de faire un livret sous LaTeX ? > Ce que j'entends par livret est un document dont les pages sont au format A5 > et tel que l'impression soit prévue sur des feuilles A4 (ensuite pliées et > réunies). Par exemple, pour un document tenant sur 8 pages A5, les deux > feuilles A4 doivent être ainsi imprimées : > > recto verso > feuille 1 > (imprimée en mode paysage) > ______________ ______________ > | | | | | | > | p8 | p1 | | p2 | p7 | > | | | | | | > |_______| ______| |______ |_______| > > recto verso > feuille 2 > (imprimée en mode paysage) > ______________ ______________ > | | | | | | > | p6 | p3 | | p4 | p5 | > | | | | | | > |_______| ______| |______ |_______| > > Merci pour toute aide. > Cordialement, > F.Baldit. > > > > Bonjour, je voudrais faire la même chose mais avec 4 pages sur chaque feuille a4 pour apres faire un livret une fois plier au format a6. J'ai essayé les outils postscript mais en vain je n'y arrive pas (j'ai réussi à faire ce que demande F. Baldit, mais pas mon problème...) si vous avez une idée merci Ghislain From - Thu Dec 28 11:59:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr (smtp19.orange.fr [80.12.242.1]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBSAx0QO064748 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:59:05 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1904.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id AA0411C00045 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:59:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (ABayonne-152-1-90-116.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.217.188.116]) by mwinf1904.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4A8C31C00059 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:59:00 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061228105900305.4A8C31C00059@mwinf1904.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <4593A10B.4010307@gmail.com> References: <200610271131.32936.frederic38300@aol.com> <4593A10B.4010307@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-17778695 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Denis_Verg=E8s?= Subject: Re: [gut] livret sous latex Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:58:59 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:59:05 +0100 (CET) --Apple-Mail-1-17778695 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Bonjour, Si vous =EAtes sous Mac, Cocoa Booklet =E0 http://fabien.iconus.ch/cocoabooklet/ vous permet de faire ceci sans effort. Il suffit de d=E9placer votre=20=20 fichier A4 en .pdf sur l'ic=F4ne Cocoa Booklet et le livret en A5 est=20=20 aussit=F4t cr=E9=E9. Cordialement. Denis Verg=E8s Le 28 d=E9c. 06 =E0 11:48, Ghislain Dutheil a =E9crit : > Frederic Baldit wrote: >> Bonjour, >> quelqu'un sait-il s'il est possible de faire un livret sous LaTeX ? >> Ce que j'entends par livret est un document dont les pages sont au=20=20 >> format A5 >> et tel que l'impression soit pr=E9vue sur des feuilles A4 (ensuite=20=20 >> pli=E9es et >> r=E9unies). Par exemple, pour un document tenant sur 8 pages A5, les=20= =20 >> deux >> feuilles A4 doivent =EAtre ainsi imprim=E9es : >> >> recto verso >> feuille 1 >> (imprim=E9e en mode paysage) >> ______________ ______________ >> | | | |=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20=20=20 >> | | >> | p8 | p1 | | p2 | p7 | >> | | | |=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20=20=20 >> | | >> |_______| ______| |______ |_______| >> >> recto verso >> feuille 2 >> (imprim=E9e en mode paysage) >> ______________ ______________ >> | | | |=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20=20=20 >> | | >> | p6 | p3 | | p4 | p5 | >> | | | |=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20=20=20 >> | | >> |_______| ______| |______ |_______| >> >> Merci pour toute aide. >> Cordialement, >> F.Baldit. >> >> > > > > --Apple-Mail-1-17778695 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bonjour,
Si vous =EAtes sous Mac,=A0 = Cocoa Booklet =E0=A0

=

vous permet de faire ceci sans effort. Il suffit de d=E9placer vot= re fichier A4 en .pdf sur l'ic=F4ne Cocoa Booklet et le livret en A5 est au= ssit=F4t cr=E9=E9.
Cordialement.
Denis Verg=E8s
Le 28 d=E9c. 06 =E0 11:48, Ghislain Dutheil a =E9crit :

Fr= ederic Baldit wrote:
Bonjour= ,
quelqu'un sait-il s'il est possible de faire un livre= t sous LaTeX ?
Ce que j'entends par livret est un docum= ent dont les pages sont au format A5= =A0
et tel que l'impression soit pr=E9vue sur de= s feuilles A4 (ensuite pli=E9es et=A0=
r=E9unies). Par exemple, pour un document tenan= t sur 8 pages A5, les deux=A0<= /DIV>
feuilles A4 doivent =EAtre ainsi imprim=E9es :

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 recto =A0 =A0 =A0 verso
feuille 1=A0
(imprim= =E9e en mode paysage)
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ______________=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ______________
=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 |=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 |=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0 |= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 |=A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 |
=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0 p8=A0 | = =A0 =A0 p1 =A0 | =A0 = =A0 |=A0 =A0 p2=A0 =A0 | =A0 p7=A0 =A0 |
=A0=A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A0 |=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 |=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 <= /SPAN>| =A0 =A0 |=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 |=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 |
= =A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 |______= _| ______|=A0 =A0 =A0 |______ = |_______|

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A0 recto =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A0 =A0 verso
feuille 2
(imprim=E9e en mode paysage)
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ______________=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ______________
=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 |<= SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 |=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0 |=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 |=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 |
=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0 p6=A0 | =A0 =A0 p3 =A0 | =A0 =A0 |=A0 =A0 p4<= SPAN class=3D"Apple-converted-space">=A0 =A0 | =A0 p5=A0 =A0= |
=A0=A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 |=A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 |=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 | =A0 =A0 |=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 |=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 |
=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = |_______| ______|=A0 =A0 =A0 |= ______ |_______|

Merci pour toute aide.
Cordialement,
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--Apple-Mail-1-17778695-- From - Thu Dec 28 14:34:45 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2-g19.free.fr (smtp2-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.28]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBSDYV1Y060007 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 2006 14:34:37 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [192.168.0.1] (sac91-1-82-232-90-131.fbx.proxad.net [82.232.90.131]) by smtp2-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 925D97D30 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 2006 14:34:31 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <4593A10B.4010307@gmail.com> References: <200610271131.32936.frederic38300@aol.com> <4593A10B.4010307@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-7-27115314 Message-Id: <1EA1CF03-8F2A-4795-B958-613B7C9F6161@supelec.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric_Boulanger?= Subject: Re: [gut] livret sous latex Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 14:34:36 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 28 Dec 2006 14:34:37 +0100 (CET) --Apple-Mail-7-27115314 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed J'ai =E9crit un package LaTeX qui utilise pdfpages pour produire un=20=20 livret A6 =E0 partir d'un document A4. Je l'utilise pour cr=E9er une version papier de mon carnet d'adresse Palm. Le document obtenu, imprim=E9 en A4 recto-verso est ensuite coup=E9 en deux pour obtenir des feuillets A5 que j'empile,=20= =20 plie en deux et agrafe en leur milieu (par exemple avec une agrafeuse=20=20 d=E9pli=E9e, en positionnant le pli du papier =E0 la limite entre deux tables pour=20=20 maintenir le papier tout en laissant les agrafes passer entre les tables. Je=20=20 replie ensuite les agrafes =E0 la main). Si le document d'origine est "source.pdf", on =E9crit le nombre de=20=20 pages de ce document dans un fichier "source.pages", puis on compile le document suivant avec pdflatex : \documentclass[a4paper,twoside]{article} \usepackage{pdfbooklet} \begin{document} \makepdfbooklet{source}% \end{document} pour obtenir le livret. Si le document d'origine est produit avec LaTeX, le fichier=20=20 "source.pages" peut =EAtre obtenu automatiquement en ajoutant : \AtEndDocument{% \newwrite{\numberofpages} \immediate\openout\numberofpages\jobname.pages% \immediate\write\numberofpages{\thepage}% \immediate\closeout\numberofpages } au pr=E9ambule du document "source.tex". Fr=E9d=E9ric Boulanger. --Apple-Mail-7-27115314 Content-Type: multipart/appledouble; boundary=Apple-Mail-8-27115315 Content-Disposition: attachment --Apple-Mail-8-27115315 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: application/applefile; name=pdfbooklet.sty Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=pdfbooklet.sty AAUWBwACAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMAAAAJAAAAPgAAAAoAAAADAAAA SAAAAA4AAAACAAAAVgAAAR5URVhUQUxGQQAAcGRmYm9va2xldC5zdHkAAAEA AAABAAAAAAAAAAAeAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAAAAQAAAAAAAAAAHgAA AAAAAAAAABwAHv// --Apple-Mail-8-27115315 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Id: <6F0D15B7-FAB8-44DD-9A29-4A16A139017A@local> Content-Type: application/octet-stream; x-mac-type=54455854; x-unix-mode=0644; x-mac-creator=414C4641; name=pdfbooklet.sty Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=pdfbooklet.sty %% -*-TeX-*- % ################################################################### %=20 % FILE: "pdfbooklet.sty" % created: 2002-03-11 14:18:51=20 % last update: 2006-12-28 14:32:17=20 % Author: Fr=E9d=E9ric Boulanger % E-mail: Frederic.Boulanger@supelec.fr % mail: Sup=E9lec -- Service Informatique % Plateau de Moulon, 3 rue Joliot-Curie, 91192 Gif-sur-Yvette ced= ex % www: http://wwwsi.supelec.fr/fb/ %=20=20 % Description:=20 %=20=20 % A small package to build 4-up, duplex-printing A6 booklets from a pdf= =20 % file. Intended to replace the following PostScript specific stuff: % psbook % pstops 8:0,1,4,5,2,3,6,7 % psnup -p a4 -4 %=20=20 % Once printed in duplex mode, the pages should be cut in two A5=20 % sheets. Thoses sheets should then be folded, stacked and stappled % in there middle to build a A6 booklet. %=20=20 % In the following diagram, n is the smallest multiple of 8 which is=20 % greater or equal to the number of pages in the original document. %=20=20 % +----------+----------+ % 1 | | | n % | | |=20=20 % | | 2 | n-1 | | % +-> | | | <-+ % | | | % | | | % +----------+----------+ <-- cut here, stack the bottom part=20 % | | | on top of the top part, repeat=20 % | | | with the following pages. % +-> | 4 | n-3 | <-+ % | | | | | % | | |=20=20=20 % 3 | | | n-2 % +----------+----------+ %=20=20 % ^ % | % +------ fold here %=20=20 % Usage: %=20=20 % Write the number of page of your source.pdf document into a % source.pages text file. This can be done automatically with the % following code in the preamble of the LaTeX source of the=20 % document : %=20=20 % \AtEndDocument{% % \newwrite{\numberofpages} % \immediate\openout\numberofpages\jobname.pages% % \immediate\write\numberofpages{\thepage}% % \immediate\closeout\numberofpages % } %=20=20 % Write a booklet.tex LaTeX source file as follows: %=20=20 % \documentclass[a4paper,twoside]{article} % \usepackage{pdfbooklet} %=20 % \begin{document} % \makepdfbooklet{source}% % \end{document} % % Then compile booklet.tex with pdflatex. If the source.pages % file does not exist, pdfbooklet will ask you the number of pages % of the source.pdf document. %=20=20 %=20=20 % History %=20 % modified by rev reason % ---------- --- --- ----------- % 2002-03-11 FBO 1.0 original % ################################################################### %% \RequirePackage{ifthen} \RequirePackage{pdfpages} % Those are missing in LaTeX \newcommand{\dividecounter}[2]{% \global\divide\csname c@#1\endcsname by #2% } \newcommand{\multiplycounter}[2]{% \global\multiply\csname c@#1\endcsname by #2% } %%% % Page counters %%% % Get a new page counter \newcommand{\pdfbooklet@newpagenumber}[1]{% \newcounter{pdfbooklet@page\romannumeral#1}% } % Set a page counter \newcommand{\pdfbooklet@setpagenumber}[2]{% \setcounter{pdfbooklet@page\romannumeral#1}{#2}% } % Add to a page counter \newcommand{\pdfbooklet@addpagenumber}[2]{% \addtocounter{pdfbooklet@page\romannumeral#1}{#2}% } % Get the value of a page counter \newcommand{\pdfbooklet@pagevalue}[1]{% \value{pdfbooklet@page\romannumeral#1}% } % Get the representation of a page counter \newcommand{\thepdfbooklet@page}[1]{% \expandafter\csname thepdfbooklet@page\romannumeral#1\endcsname } % %% % Page before the initial page in the page set \newcounter{pdfbooklet@startpage} \setcounter{pdfbooklet@startpage}{0} % % Number of pages in the output document (multiple of 8) \newcounter{pdfbooklet@lastpage} % % Create the 8 page counters (4 pages per sheet with duplex printing) \newcounter{pdfbooklet@tmpcount} \setcounter{pdfbooklet@tmpcount}{1} \whiledo{\value{pdfbooklet@tmpcount}<9}{% \pdfbooklet@newpagenumber{\thepdfbooklet@tmpcount}% \addtocounter{pdfbooklet@tmpcount}{1}% } %% % The main command which includes the PDF pages in the right order \newcommand{\pdfbooklet@includepages}[1]{% % First, initialize the 4 first page numbers to the start number % These page numbers start from the beginning of the document \setcounter{pdfbooklet@tmpcount}{1}% \whiledo{\value{pdfbooklet@tmpcount}<5}{% \pdfbooklet@setpagenumber{\thepdfbooklet@tmpcount}{\value{pdfbooklet@st= artpage}}% \addtocounter{pdfbooklet@tmpcount}{1}% } % Then, initialize the 4 last page numbers to the last page number % These page numbers start from the end of the document (n-x) \setcounter{pdfbooklet@tmpcount}{5}% \whiledo{\value{pdfbooklet@tmpcount}<9}{% \pdfbooklet@setpagenumber{\thepdfbooklet@tmpcount}{\value{pdfbooklet@la= stpage}}% \addtocounter{pdfbooklet@tmpcount}{1}% } % % Then, compute the number of pages 1, 2, 3 and 4 in the set \setcounter{pdfbooklet@tmpcount}{1}% \whiledo{\value{pdfbooklet@tmpcount}<5}{% \pdfbooklet@addpagenumber{\thepdfbooklet@tmpcount}{\value{pdfbooklet@tm= pcount}}% \addtocounter{pdfbooklet@tmpcount}{1}% } % And the number of pages n, n-1, n-2, n-3 in the set \setcounter{pdfbooklet@tmpcount}{5}% \whiledo{\value{pdfbooklet@tmpcount}<9}{% \pdfbooklet@addpagenumber{\thepdfbooklet@tmpcount}{5}% \pdfbooklet@addpagenumber{\thepdfbooklet@tmpcount}{-\value{pdfbooklet@t= mpcount}}% \addtocounter{pdfbooklet@tmpcount}{1}% } % % If pages are beyond the total page number of the original document,=20 % insert blank pages. \setcounter{pdfbooklet@tmpcount}{1}% \whiledo{\value{pdfbooklet@tmpcount}<9}{% \ifthenelse{\pdfbooklet@pagevalue{\thepdfbooklet@tmpcount}>\pdfbooklet@= totalpages}{% \expandafter\def\csname pdfbooklet@\romannumeral\thepdfbooklet@tmpcou= nt\endcsname{{}}% }{% \expandafter\edef\csname pdfbooklet@\romannumeral\thepdfbooklet@tmpco= unt\endcsname{% \thepdfbooklet@page{\thepdfbooklet@tmpcount}% }% }% \addtocounter{pdfbooklet@tmpcount}{1}% }% % % Include the pages 2, n-1, 4, n-3 on one side, n, 1, n-2, 3 on the other= =20 % side so that page 1 is on the back of page 2, page n on the back=20 % of page n-1, page 3 on the back of page 4 and page n-2 on the back of= =20 % page n-3. % \typeout{^^J\includepdf[% % nup=3D4, % pages=3D{% % \pdfbooklet@ii,\pdfbooklet@vi,\pdfbooklet@iv,\pdfbooklet@viii,% % \pdfbooklet@v,\pdfbooklet@i,\pdfbooklet@vii,\pdfbooklet@iii % } % ]{#1}^^J}% \includepdf[% nup=3D4, pages=3D{% \pdfbooklet@ii,\pdfbooklet@vi,\pdfbooklet@iv,\pdfbooklet@viii,% \pdfbooklet@v,\pdfbooklet@i,\pdfbooklet@vii,\pdfbooklet@iii } ]{#1}% % Go to the next set of 8 pages. \addtocounter{pdfbooklet@startpage}{4}% \addtocounter{pdfbooklet@lastpage}{-4}% } % The command to make a 4-up duplex-printing booklet from a PDF document. % The argument is the base name of the file. % The number of pages of the original document is read from a file=20 % with the same base name as the PDF document, but with a .pages=20 % extension. If no such file exists, the user is asked for the number=20 % of pages. %=20 % A .pages file is easy to create. Just add the following to the=20 % preamble of your document: % \AtEndDocument{% % \newwrite{\numberofpages} % \immediate\openout\numberofpages\jobname.pages% % \immediate\write\numberofpages{\thepage}% % \immediate\closeout\numberofpages % } %=20 \newcommand{\makepdfbooklet}[1]{% \newread\pdfbooklet@numberofpages % Try to read from the .pages file \immediate\openin\pdfbooklet@numberofpages#1.pages \ifeof\pdfbooklet@numberofpages % No .pages file -> ask the user \immediate\closein\pdfbooklet@numberofpages \message{^^J^^J No file #1.pages^^J}% \message{ Enter the number of pages of #1.pdf: }% \immediate\read-1 to \pdfbooklet@totalpages \else % Read the number of pages from the .pages file \immediate\read\pdfbooklet@numberofpages to \pdfbooklet@totalpages \immediate\closein\pdfbooklet@numberofpages \fi % Compute the number of pages to output (smallest multiple of 8=20 % which is greater or equal to the number of pages in the=20=20 % original document) \setcounter{pdfbooklet@lastpage}{\pdfbooklet@totalpages}% \dividecounter{pdfbooklet@lastpage}{8}% \multiplycounter{pdfbooklet@lastpage}{8}% \ifthenelse{\value{pdfbooklet@lastpage}<\pdfbooklet@totalpages}{% \addtocounter{pdfbooklet@lastpage}{8}% }{}% % Include pages while there are pages to include... \whiledo{\value{pdfbooklet@startpage} < \value{pdfbooklet@lastpage}}{% \pdfbooklet@includepages{#1.pdf}% }% } --Apple-Mail-8-27115315-- --Apple-Mail-7-27115314 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Le 28 d=E9c. 06 =E0 11:48, Ghislain Dutheil a =E9crit : > Frederic Baldit wrote: >> Bonjour, >> quelqu'un sait-il s'il est possible de faire un livret sous LaTeX ? >> Ce que j'entends par livret est un document dont les pages sont au=20=20 >> format A5 >> et tel que l'impression soit pr=E9vue sur des feuilles A4 (ensuite=20=20 >> pli=E9es et >> r=E9unies). Par exemple, pour un document tenant sur 8 pages A5, les=20= =20 >> deux >> feuilles A4 doivent =EAtre ainsi imprim=E9es : >> >> recto verso >> feuille 1 >> (imprim=E9e en mode paysage) >> ______________ ______________ >> | | | |=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20=20=20 >> | | >> | p8 | p1 | | p2 | p7 | >> | | | |=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20=20=20 >> | | >> |_______| ______| |______ |_______| >> >> recto verso >> feuille 2 >> (imprim=E9e en mode paysage) >> ______________ ______________ >> | | | |=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20=20=20 >> | | >> | p6 | p3 | | p4 | p5 | >> | | | |=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20= =20=20=20=20 >> | | >> |_______| ______| |______ |_______| >> >> Merci pour toute aide. >> Cordialement, >> F.Baldit. >> >> >> >> > Bonjour, > > je voudrais faire la m=EAme chose mais avec 4 pages sur chaque=20=20 > feuille a4 > pour apres faire un livret une fois plier au format a6. > J'ai essay=E9 les outils postscript mais en vain je n'y arrive pas (j'ai > r=E9ussi =E0 faire ce que demande F. Baldit, mais pas mon probl=E8me...) > > si vous avez une id=E9e merci > > Ghislain +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Fr=E9d=E9ric Boulanger | Frederic.Boulanger@supelec.fr| | Sup=E9lec - D=E9partement Informatique | tel: +33 [0]1 69 85 14 84 | | Plateau de Moulon, 3 rue Joliot-Curie | fax: +33 [0]1 69 85 14 99 | | 91192 Gif-sur-Yvette Cedex, France | Supelec:+33 [0]1 69 85 12 12 | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ --Apple-Mail-7-27115314-- From - Thu Dec 28 20:11:03 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBSJAqun024444 for ; Thu, 28 Dec 2006 20:10:57 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 32so4487460ugm for ; Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:10:52 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=PdFvCVaErUP+LyMgaAY86gin3L7ruW7esHnREWrtfWvHTT2LLvxCBOVZae4LA3sZ+AqCUXb46Es0HiGqNuNzQPR7/oznxH4rFa0yskV2Vj9lgt0+17rsAJ6IK9Bmp7TD4MXyIpuexQSLRwWzfgNHPkxT22Awszg8fSRKW9qBtOk= Received: by 10.66.232.10 with SMTP id e10mr20262574ugh.1167333052102; Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:10:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.103? ( [82.240.214.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id a1sm24980493ugf.2006.12.28.11.10.49; Thu, 28 Dec 2006 11:10:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <459416C9.7080909@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 20:11:05 +0100 From: Ghislain Dutheil User-Agent: Icedove 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] livret sous latex References: <200610271131.32936.frederic38300@aol.com> <4593A10B.4010307@gmail.com> <1EA1CF03-8F2A-4795-B958-613B7C9F6161@supelec.fr> In-Reply-To: <1EA1CF03-8F2A-4795-B958-613B7C9F6161@supelec.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 28 Dec 2006 20:10:57 +0100 (CET) Frédéric Boulanger wrote: > J'ai écrit un package LaTeX qui utilise pdfpages pour produire un > livret A6 > à partir d'un document A4. Je l'utilise pour créer une version papier de > mon carnet d'adresse Palm. Le document obtenu, imprimé en A4 recto-verso > est ensuite coupé en deux pour obtenir des feuillets A5 que j'empile, > plie > en deux et agrafe en leur milieu (par exemple avec une agrafeuse dépliée, > en positionnant le pli du papier à la limite entre deux tables pour > maintenir > le papier tout en laissant les agrafes passer entre les tables. Je replie > ensuite les agrafes à la main). > > Si le document d'origine est "source.pdf", on écrit le nombre de pages > de ce > document dans un fichier "source.pages", puis on compile le document > suivant avec pdflatex : > > \documentclass[a4paper,twoside]{article} > \usepackage{pdfbooklet} > > \begin{document} > \makepdfbooklet{source}% > \end{document} > > pour obtenir le livret. > > Si le document d'origine est produit avec LaTeX, le fichier > "source.pages" peut > être obtenu automatiquement en ajoutant : > > \AtEndDocument{% > \newwrite{\numberofpages} > \immediate\openout\numberofpages\jobname.pages% > \immediate\write\numberofpages{\thepage}% > \immediate\closeout\numberofpages > } > > au préambule du document "source.tex". > > Frédéric Boulanger. > > > Le 28 déc. 06 à 11:48, Ghislain Dutheil a écrit : > >> Frederic Baldit wrote: >>> Bonjour, >>> quelqu'un sait-il s'il est possible de faire un livret sous LaTeX ? >>> Ce que j'entends par livret est un document dont les pages sont au >>> format A5 >>> et tel que l'impression soit prévue sur des feuilles A4 (ensuite >>> pliées et >>> réunies). Par exemple, pour un document tenant sur 8 pages A5, les deux >>> feuilles A4 doivent être ainsi imprimées : >>> >>> recto verso >>> feuille 1 >>> (imprimée en mode paysage) >>> ______________ ______________ >>> | | | | | | >>> | p8 | p1 | | p2 | p7 | >>> | | | | | | >>> |_______| ______| |______ |_______| >>> >>> recto verso >>> feuille 2 >>> (imprimée en mode paysage) >>> ______________ ______________ >>> | | | | | | >>> | p6 | p3 | | p4 | p5 | >>> | | | | | | >>> |_______| ______| |______ |_______| >>> >>> Merci pour toute aide. >>> Cordialement, >>> F.Baldit. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Bonjour, >> >> je voudrais faire la même chose mais avec 4 pages sur chaque feuille a4 >> pour apres faire un livret une fois plier au format a6. >> J'ai essayé les outils postscript mais en vain je n'y arrive pas (j'ai >> réussi à faire ce que demande F. Baldit, mais pas mon problème...) >> >> si vous avez une idée merci >> >> Ghislain > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Frédéric Boulanger | Frederic.Boulanger@supelec.fr| > | Supélec - Département Informatique | tel: +33 [0]1 69 85 14 84 | > | Plateau de Moulon, 3 rue Joliot-Curie | fax: +33 [0]1 69 85 14 99 | > | 91192 Gif-sur-Yvette Cedex, France | Supelec:+33 [0]1 69 85 12 12 | > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > Merci, ça marche trés bien Ghislain From - Fri Dec 29 09:22:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.185]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBT8MYh1000201 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 09:22:39 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from mac.com (smtpin05-en2 [10.13.10.150]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout15/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id kBT8MXcm013122 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 00:22:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (anancy-153-1-28-234.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.196.155.234]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin05/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id kBT8MUob006248 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 00:22:32 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <16F5AA7D-9127-4F91-A972-77900769D78A@wanadoo.fr> References: <4FF9A300-01C3-456A-97D4-A7B7AAD333FF@wanadoo.fr> <20061222211912.0ca4a3bd@localhost> <06122311035000.00752@rbastian> <0B0BEAC2-F6F8-4B2C-B2AC-1FA6588CE23F@wanadoo.fr> <8736A01F-90CB-4AFB-984D-CC2D393B72A9@wanadoo.fr> <5A490C06-8F0E-4D3E-832C-CA9A4FC7B154@mac.com> <398122A3-DA72-4EED-B6E4-06DF28C93709@mac.com> <16F5AA7D-9127-4F91-A972-77900769D78A@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <95B22E1B-A8A7-464F-BAE0-26F61AB1B67E@mac.com> From: Frank STENGEL Subject: Re: [gut] pstricks, asymptote, pgf Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 09:22:33 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 29 Dec 2006 09:22:39 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBT8MYh1000201 Le 26 déc. 06 à 20:37, pir2.jv a écrit : > Je réponds avec retard. Et moi donc. J'espère que malgré la petite casquette je serai clair > J'ai peur de faire une c... J'installe mktex. çà fait quoi ? même > genre que fink ? çà ne va pas me désorganiser tout ? Non, non, mikteX n'est pas nécessaire... Les outils (mpm notamment) peuvent être installés sans mikTeX (qui ne marche que sous 'doze). En fait mpm permet de gérer les paquets qu'il installe (d'habitude dans l'arborescence texmf.local ou similaire). En gros il y a 8 mois j'ai installé le bazar (lecture de README et de INSTALL, ./configure, make, sudo make install ; le tout dans un dossier sans espace dans le nom...) il y a 6 mois j'ai fait (un exemple) : sudo mpm --install pgf récemment j'ai fait sudo mpm --find-upates et il m'a répondu (entre autres) pgf et donc j'ai fait : sudo mpm --update pgf Un coup de sudo texhash et tout est bon. Une remarque cependant, mpm ne gère que les paquets qu'il installe (et donc disponibles pour mikTeX) et les paquets sont mis à jour avec un peu de retard par rapport à leur sortie officielle (pas longtemps : de l'ordre de quelques semaines) > Merci > > A Marseille, on ne souhaite pas une bonne année avant la fin de la > précédente; alors, on dit "bon bout d'an". Ce que je fais! Et je réciproque... -- Frank STENGEL (fstengelmac.com) From - Fri Dec 29 14:16:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp006.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp006.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.11.95]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with SMTP id kBTDG45o000551 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 14:16:04 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: (qmail 78077 invoked from network); 29 Dec 2006 13:16:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Subject:From:To:Content-Type:Date:Message-Id:Mime-Version:X-Mailer:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Imwa/qjSfNw8HwZL8RB1+xg6goA9c8IE7OnJKMzlzvHaasREmkdxD1Hq2pNG44mulu0l5GY6+unVVHfmkQVABhDgSH3FtRy2lbPEr2pXk5Ner4iguqFHJHZFznC3sKN8Enm8q8RcP8EfW0c6dyvuhRgrnt19bqCI4AD2nPALB9A= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Unknown-00-50-bf-d4-a9-6f.lan) (f_stre@83.186.170.109 with plain) by smtp006.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Dec 2006 13:16:03 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: dcOOFSMVM1m_pkMEqYyrgm2QkZTB_xMXy2bUqIqcvpuEjFYlPErE2lMZRjtahEbtDxSEqmkLzlHJx_NFRPCS_SugqwXW5bPwef7sX_SZLxO2UmS1zRR0NCFoaDTq_CReg3Hm1MU9bE_z Subject: slides avec ifmslide From: Frans To: Liste GUT LaTeX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 14:16:38 +0100 Message-Id: <1167398198.16755.35.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 29 Dec 2006 14:16:04 +0100 (CET) Bonjour, j'essaye de faire une présentation avec le package ifmslide. Je prends exemple sur la présentation de Daniel Filipo lors des journées GUT2004. Lorsque je compile le fichier source, il n'y a aucune erreur mais il y a quelques lignes dans la console qui m'interpellent: Trying to make PK font contnav at 512 DPI... Running makemf... makemf: The contnav source file could not be found. Running ttf2pk... makepk: PK font contnav could not be created. Warning: (file contnav): Font contnav at 512 not found lorsque j'ouvre le fichier PDF, la première page s'ouvre convenablement mais lorsque je passe à la seconde, j'ai un message qui dit qu'il ne peut pas trouver the Ressources dictionary et qu'il utilise Helvetica. Pour la suite, je n'ai aucune pause dans ma présentation et à la place de chaque pause, j'ai un rectangle orange. Pour compiler, j'utilise MiKTeX 2.5. J'espère que vous voyez ce qui ne va pas et je vous souhaite déjà une bonne année 2007 ou pour ceux qui veulent un bon bout d'an 2006... Merci, Frans ___________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From - Fri Dec 29 16:21:55 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from reserv5.univ-lille1.fr (reserv5.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.19]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBTFLjhb085419 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:21:50 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from reserv1.univ-lille1.fr (root@reserv1.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.15]) by reserv5.univ-lille1.fr (8.13.7/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id kBTFLY4g013731 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:21:34 +0100 Received: from [192.168.134.110] ([192.168.134.110]) (authenticated bits=0) by reserv1.univ-lille1.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id kBTFLlYB015911 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:21:48 +0100 Message-ID: <4595327D.2090400@univ-lille1.fr> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:21:33 +0100 From: Daniel Flipo User-Agent: Icedove 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] slides avec ifmslide References: <1167398198.16755.35.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1167398198.16755.35.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:21:50 +0100 (CET) X-Greylist: Sender DNS name whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (reserv5.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.19]); Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:21:34 +0100 (CET) X-USTL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-USTL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-USTL-MailScanner-From: daniel.flipo@univ-lille1.fr Frans a écrit le 29.12.2006 14:16 : > j'essaye de faire une présentation avec le package ifmslide. Je prends > exemple sur la présentation de Daniel Filipo lors des journées GUT2004. > > Lorsque je compile le fichier source, il n'y a aucune erreur mais il y a > quelques lignes dans la console qui m'interpellent: > > Trying to make PK font contnav at 512 DPI... > Running makemf... > makemf: The contnav source file could not be found. > Running ttf2pk... > makepk: PK font contnav could not be created. > ... > Pour compiler, j'utilise MiKTeX 2.5. Bonjour, Le message signifie que la fonte contnav n'est pas reconnue en tant que fonte type 1. Essayez ceci : 1) créer un fichier 'contnav.map' contenant cette unique ligne à l'emplacement suivant (ceci est important) : C:/localtexmf/fonts/map/dvips/contnav.map 2) ajouter la ligne suivante Map contnav.map à la fin du fichier C:/texmf/web2c/updmap.cfg 3) lancer la commande initexmf --mkmaps dans une fenêtre de commande. Ceci devrait suffire (je pense que la fonte contvav' est présente chez vous, vu ce que vous avez comme message d'erreur...). Assurez-vous quand même que vous avez bien les deux fichiers contnav.tfm et contnav.pfb quelque part dans C:/texmf. Je dis ceci complètement à l'aveugle car je n'ai pas de système Win$ donc pas de MikTeX à ma disposition :-), il faudra peut-être adapter... Les allemands se souhaitent en cette période « ein glückliches Rutch ins Neue Jahr », c'est ce que je vous souhaite à tous. Je trouve l'expression encore plus jolie que le « bon bout d'an » des Provençaux ;-) -- Daniel Flipo From - Fri Dec 29 16:50:49 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.11.35]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with SMTP id kBTFohDp004447 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:50:43 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: (qmail 71435 invoked from network); 29 Dec 2006 15:50:43 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Subject:From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Date:Message-Id:Mime-Version:X-Mailer:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=E3TtKSAm1b7Q3IQR6jpoJRd2mtY4e4koRqXcagaOvutGnd6dxPx+KdaqE726Yzg8PGu1BT1TTdVDdmnLBQTiDcNnczVx138hD2bBFfvQPldR+Qxg9iwjRcFS6XLch3cKbgq9F6F9wkzETCk5NFuShZ1Ziek4/EYkUZE06U6zOwI= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Unknown-00-50-bf-d4-a9-6f.lan) (f_stre@83.186.170.109 with plain) by smtp004.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Dec 2006 15:50:43 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: .divzbcVM1nbj2In7nwrpwuBcgjfRjp4FwtNIKBL8t3.ZoLb5SdUGAnY4jItlY1p47mlIf07iM3mqIxc43Nefu2N5XpXm1uWt5GoxQi1Jj55PCzeliEcNC2EF9VcWVg606kTRkY5IHLT Subject: Re: [gut] slides avec ifmslide From: Frans To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: <4595327D.2090400@univ-lille1.fr> References: <1167398198.16755.35.camel@localhost> <4595327D.2090400@univ-lille1.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:51:07 +0100 Message-Id: <1167407467.16755.58.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:50:43 +0100 (CET) Bonjour, Le vendredi 29 décembre 2006 à 16:21 +0100, Daniel Flipo a écrit : > Frans a écrit le 29.12.2006 14:16 : > > > j'essaye de faire une présentation avec le package ifmslide. Je prends > > exemple sur la présentation de Daniel Filipo lors des journées GUT2004. > > > > Lorsque je compile le fichier source, il n'y a aucune erreur mais il y a > > quelques lignes dans la console qui m'interpellent: > > > > Trying to make PK font contnav at 512 DPI... > > Running makemf... > > makemf: The contnav source file could not be found. > > Running ttf2pk... > > makepk: PK font contnav could not be created. > > ... > > Pour compiler, j'utilise MiKTeX 2.5. > > Bonjour, > > Le message signifie que la fonte contnav n'est pas reconnue en tant que > fonte type 1. > > Essayez ceci : > 1) créer un fichier 'contnav.map' contenant cette unique ligne > à l'emplacement suivant (ceci est important) : > C:/localtexmf/fonts/map/dvips/contnav.map mon fichier contnav.map est dans C:/localtexmf/fonts/map/dvips/tetex/contnav.map et j'en ai créé un comme tu l'as dit. > > 2) ajouter la ligne suivante > Map contnav.map > à la fin du fichier C:/texmf/web2c/updmap.cfg Il n'y avait pas ce fichier dans C:/texmf/web2c/, j'en ai créé un avec la seule ligne que tu as dis d'ajouter > > 3) lancer la commande > initexmf --mkmaps > dans une fenêtre de commande. Sans problème > > Ceci devrait suffire (je pense que la fonte contvav' est présente chez > vous, vu ce que vous avez comme message d'erreur...). Assurez-vous quand > même que vous avez bien les deux fichiers contnav.tfm et contnav.pfb > quelque part dans C:/texmf. En recompilant, je n'ai plus l'erreur, merci. Mes boutons (qui étaient vides, je ne l'ai pas dit) sont maintenant comme il faut, il n'y a plus de message dans acroread pour dire que la fonte n'est pas reconnue mais je n'ai toujours que des rectangles de la taille d'un caractère à la place des instructions \pause. Ce que je n'ai pas dit, c'est qu'il ne connaît pas no plus cork-lmss.cfg (normal vu que je n'ai pas sur mon PC) et j'ai mis en commentaire les lignes \fonts\ifont=cork-lmss12 at 12truept et suivantes. En tout cas, je pourrai faire une belle présentation et je ne mettrai pas de pauses dans les transparents (je n'en ait pas vraiment besoin pour cette présentation-ci mais si le problème peut être réglé, ce serait mieux, je vais y regarder un autre jour). Un grand merci. > > Je dis ceci complètement à l'aveugle car je n'ai pas de système Win$ > donc pas de MikTeX à ma disposition :-), il faudra peut-être adapter... C'est sur le PC du boulot et je n'ai pas le choix de l'OS. > > Les allemands se souhaitent en cette période « ein glückliches Rutch ins > Neue Jahr », c'est ce que je vous souhaite à tous. Je trouve > l'expression encore plus jolie que le « bon bout d'an » des Provençaux ;-) > Je ne suis pas contre mais je ne voulais pas vexer les plus vexables... ;-) Frans ___________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From - Fri Dec 29 18:21:15 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from reserv5.univ-lille1.fr (reserv5.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.19]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBTHL5Qx066760 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:21:10 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from reserv1.univ-lille1.fr (root@reserv1.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.15]) by reserv5.univ-lille1.fr (8.13.7/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id kBTHKxVm004609 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:20:59 +0100 Received: from [192.168.134.110] ([192.168.134.110]) (authenticated bits=0) by reserv1.univ-lille1.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id kBTHLF3q016302 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:21:16 +0100 Message-ID: <45954E7A.4050105@univ-lille1.fr> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:20:58 +0100 From: Daniel Flipo User-Agent: Icedove 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] slides avec ifmslide References: <1167398198.16755.35.camel@localhost> <4595327D.2090400@univ-lille1.fr> <1167407467.16755.58.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1167407467.16755.58.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:21:10 +0100 (CET) X-Greylist: Sender DNS name whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (reserv5.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.19]); Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:20:59 +0100 (CET) X-USTL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-USTL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-USTL-MailScanner-From: daniel.flipo@univ-lille1.fr Frans a écrit le 29.12.2006 16:51 : > je n'ai toujours que des rectangles de la taille d'un caractère à la > place des instructions \pause. Ça c'est normal ! il faut faire un post-traitement du fichier PDF obtenu avec ppower4 (c'est un programme en Java qui interprète les balises mises par \pause dans le PDF initial et découpe les transparents en plusieurs couches à l'endroit des balises) : ppower4 fichier1.pdf fichier2.pdf Site de référence : http://www-sp.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/software/ppower4/ N.B. : Un des avantages de beamer est de produire directement le PDF multi-couches sans recours à ppower4. -- Daniel Flipo From - Fri Dec 29 18:34:57 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from relay-cm.club-internet.fr (relay-cm.club-internet.fr [194.158.104.39]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBTHYosE075429 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:34:55 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from magellan (di275-1-87-91-253-47.dsl.club-internet.fr [87.91.253.47]) by relay-cm.club-internet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 379A625614 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:34:50 +0100 (CET) Received: by magellan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E2389A566; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:35:38 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:35:38 +0100 From: Philippe Delavalade To: gut@ens.fr Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Probl=E8me?= de page vide Message-ID: <20061229173538.GA7746@club-internet.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:34:55 +0100 (CET) Bonjour. Je viens chercher de l'aide au sujet d'un petit souci. Dans un document book, je voudrais avoir le sommaire au verso de la page de titre mais ce verso (page 2 en fait) reste vide et le sommaire est sur la page 3. Voici, non pas un ECM (le sommaire me pose problème dans ce cas) mais quelques lignes : \documentclass[11pt,a4paper]{book} \title{titre} \author{} \date{} \begin{document} \maketitle \thispagestyle{empty} \renewcommand{\contentsname}{Sommaire} \tableofcontents \thispagestyle{empty} Merci d'avance et meilleurs voeux à tous. Philippe Delavalade From - Fri Dec 29 18:42:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp006.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp006.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.11.95]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with SMTP id kBTHgZXC080261 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:42:35 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: (qmail 65826 invoked from network); 29 Dec 2006 17:42:35 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Subject:From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Date:Message-Id:Mime-Version:X-Mailer:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=NwQyGepFX6kRwpOtGqjobZ+X33AKAyUhNtKFjnm7kaLOEiusO0AQ88QNB3wZ8vJs8bdpfrDwSS1trDwVBti1RIoWPD2gARipExrAnCuEfbhcPEcItgW4GWIStukvs8L96KgBowfdqgPikyzykoHDRW70FRLrkhbraSmdhiSwBd0= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Unknown-00-50-bf-d4-a9-6f.lan) (f_stre@83.186.170.109 with plain) by smtp006.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Dec 2006 17:42:34 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: nfZYiMcVM1nAxFUbQCc8HVDQb4oiWvZ5EvIrcOODa1fh_F2pwQx3yT40QYpUlkJHv53n5cF54iwMCfddJ9GzJJ7iijUUbosguwoqqn9kzxae2VTgvrRKrNNsnCUCEJs9PYZWZKc8Zv36 Subject: Re: [gut] slides avec ifmslide From: Frans To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: <45954E7A.4050105@univ-lille1.fr> References: <1167398198.16755.35.camel@localhost> <4595327D.2090400@univ-lille1.fr> <1167407467.16755.58.camel@localhost> <45954E7A.4050105@univ-lille1.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:43:10 +0100 Message-Id: <1167414190.28207.1.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:42:35 +0100 (CET) Le vendredi 29 décembre 2006 à 18:20 +0100, Daniel Flipo a écrit : > Frans a écrit le 29.12.2006 16:51 : > > > je n'ai toujours que des rectangles de la taille d'un caractère à la > > place des instructions \pause. > > Ça c'est normal ! il faut faire un post-traitement du fichier PDF obtenu > avec ppower4 (c'est un programme en Java qui interprète les balises > mises par \pause dans le PDF initial et découpe les transparents en > plusieurs couches à l'endroit des balises) : > ppower4 fichier1.pdf fichier2.pdf > > Site de référence : > http://www-sp.iti.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/software/ppower4/ > > N.B. : Un des avantages de beamer est de produire directement le PDF > multi-couches sans recours à ppower4. Est-ce alors mieux d'utiliser beamer? En lisant ta présentation que j'ai pris comme exemple, j'avais l'impression que ifmslide était mieux... Et je pense qu'il n'est pas possible de faire le style que l'on veut avec beamer. > Frans ___________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From - Fri Dec 29 18:49:47 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from reserv6.univ-lille1.fr (reserv6.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.20]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBTHna1g084748 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:49:41 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from reserv2.univ-lille1.fr (root@reserv2.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.90]) by reserv6.univ-lille1.fr (8.13.7/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id kBTHnQLr026476 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:49:26 +0100 Received: from [192.168.134.110] ([192.168.134.110]) (authenticated bits=0) by reserv2.univ-lille1.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id kBTHngPU007134 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:49:43 +0100 Message-ID: <45955525.9000802@univ-lille1.fr> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:49:25 +0100 From: Daniel Flipo User-Agent: Icedove 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Probl=E8me_de_page_vide?= References: <20061229173538.GA7746@club-internet.fr> In-Reply-To: <20061229173538.GA7746@club-internet.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:49:41 +0100 (CET) X-Greylist: Sender DNS name whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (reserv6.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.20]); Fri, 29 Dec 2006 18:49:26 +0100 (CET) X-USTL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-USTL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-USTL-MailScanner-From: daniel.flipo@univ-lille1.fr Philippe Delavalade a écrit le 29.12.2006 18:35 : > Dans un document book, je voudrais avoir le sommaire au verso de la page > de titre mais ce verso (page 2 en fait) reste vide et le sommaire est > sur la page 3. > > Voici, non pas un ECM (le sommaire me pose problème dans ce cas) > mais quelques lignes : > > \documentclass[11pt,a4paper]{book} > \title{titre} > \author{} > \date{} > \begin{document} > > \maketitle > \thispagestyle{empty} > \renewcommand{\contentsname}{Sommaire} > \tableofcontents > \thispagestyle{empty} Bonjour, La classe book commence par défaut les chapitres sur une « belle page » (c'est-à-dire toujours impaire), d'où le résultat : page blanche entre la page de titre et le sommaire. Solution : remplacer book par report \documentclass[11pt,a4paper]{report} ou bien utiliser l'option openany \documentclass[11pt,a4paper,openany]{book} mais il faudra faire des \cleardoublepage à la main si on veut que les chapitres commencent sur une belle page... -- Daniel Flipo From - Fri Dec 29 19:03:35 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.0 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,SPF_PASS, SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from relay-em.club-internet.fr (relay-em.club-internet.fr [194.158.104.223]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBTI3Mcf093299 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:03:27 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from magellan (di275-1-87-91-253-47.dsl.club-internet.fr [87.91.253.47]) by relay-em.club-internet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4045B25612 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:03:22 +0100 (CET) Received: by magellan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EDC6FA566; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:04:10 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:04:10 +0100 From: Philippe Delavalade To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] =?iso-8859-1?Q?Probl=E8m?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?e?= de page vide Message-ID: <20061229180410.GA9514@club-internet.fr> References: <20061229173538.GA7746@club-internet.fr> <45955525.9000802@univ-lille1.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <45955525.9000802@univ-lille1.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:03:27 +0100 (CET) Merci, c'est parfait avec openany. Le vendredi 29 décembre à 18:49, Daniel Flipo a écrit : > Philippe Delavalade a écrit le 29.12.2006 18:35 : > > >Dans un document book, je voudrais avoir le sommaire au verso de la page > >de titre mais ce verso (page 2 en fait) reste vide et le sommaire est > >sur la page 3. > > > >Voici, non pas un ECM (le sommaire me pose problème dans ce cas) > >mais quelques lignes : > > > >\documentclass[11pt,a4paper]{book} > >\title{titre} > >\author{} > >\date{} > >\begin{document} > > > >\maketitle > >\thispagestyle{empty} > >\renewcommand{\contentsname}{Sommaire} > >\tableofcontents > >\thispagestyle{empty} > > Bonjour, > > La classe book commence par défaut les chapitres sur une « belle page » > (c'est-à-dire toujours impaire), d'où le résultat : page blanche entre > la page de titre et le sommaire. > > Solution : remplacer book par report > \documentclass[11pt,a4paper]{report} > ou bien utiliser l'option openany > \documentclass[11pt,a4paper,openany]{book} > mais il faudra faire des \cleardoublepage à la main si on veut que les > chapitres commencent sur une belle page... > > -- > Daniel Flipo > > From - Fri Dec 29 19:04:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from reserv5.univ-lille1.fr (reserv5.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.19]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBTI4kUv094335 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:04:51 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from reserv1.univ-lille1.fr (root@reserv1.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.15]) by reserv5.univ-lille1.fr (8.13.7/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id kBTI4fce020090 for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:04:41 +0100 Received: from [192.168.134.110] ([192.168.134.110]) (authenticated bits=0) by reserv1.univ-lille1.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id kBTI4wbJ016496 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:04:59 +0100 Message-ID: <459558B8.1000608@univ-lille1.fr> Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:04:40 +0100 From: Daniel Flipo User-Agent: Icedove 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] slides avec ifmslide References: <1167398198.16755.35.camel@localhost> <4595327D.2090400@univ-lille1.fr> <1167407467.16755.58.camel@localhost> <45954E7A.4050105@univ-lille1.fr> <1167414190.28207.1.camel@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1167414190.28207.1.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:04:51 +0100 (CET) X-Greylist: Sender DNS name whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (reserv5.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.19]); Fri, 29 Dec 2006 19:04:41 +0100 (CET) X-USTL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-USTL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-USTL-MailScanner-From: daniel.flipo@univ-lille1.fr Frans a écrit le 29.12.2006 18:43 : > Est-ce alors mieux d'utiliser beamer? En lisant ta présentation que > j'ai pris comme exemple, j'avais l'impression que ifmslide était > mieux... Et je pense qu'il n'est pas possible de faire le style que > l'on veut avec beamer. Si ta présentation est déjà prête (ou quasi) avec ifmslide, il ne faut pas changer de cheval... tout est question d'habitude, exemple : certains _préfèrent_ devoir faire un post-traitement pour séparer les couches car ça permet d'aller plus vite pour relire/corriger les transparents. Une fois tout en place on lance ppower4 (une fois). D'autres préfèrent voir le résultat final tout de suite. J'avais essayé de comparer 2 ou 3 solutions (dont beamer et ifmslide), il y a un tableau récapitulatif à la fin de http://daniel.flipo.free.fr/doc/pres-GUT2004/presentations.pdf Depuis, beamer a bien progressé aussi... Effectivement, il y a beaucoup de feuilles de styles toutes faites dans beamer mais si aucune ne te convient et que tu veux faire la tienne ça ne va pas être facile (voir le volumineux manuel de beamer). -- Daniel Flipo From - Sat Dec 30 05:36:13 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from relay-bv.club-internet.fr (relay-bv.club-internet.fr [194.158.96.102]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBU4a5Rs084137 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 05:36:10 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from magellan (di275-1-87-91-253-47.dsl.club-internet.fr [87.91.253.47]) by relay-bv.club-internet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57EA025602 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 05:36:05 +0100 (CET) Received: by magellan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 72517A566; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 05:36:54 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 05:36:54 +0100 From: Philippe Delavalade To: gut@ens.fr Subject: nopagebreak Message-ID: <20061230043654.GA4947@club-internet.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sat, 30 Dec 2006 05:36:10 +0100 (CET) Bonjour. Je travaille sur un document dans lequel je définis un environnement de la façon suivante : \newenvironment{truc}[1]% {\pagebreak[3]% pour inciter latex à changer de page avant le début \texttt{#1}\hspace*{\fill}% #1 tient toujours sur une ligne \nopagebreak% là je ne veux pas de saut de page \begin{list}{}{\topsep=0pt \parsep=0pt \partopsep=0pt \itemsep=0pt}}% {\end{list}} le document est exclusivement constitué de ce genre d'environnement ; les listes sont très courtes en général (un, deux ou trois items) ; le résultat est presque toujours conforme à mon attente mais, dans deux ou trois cas, latex fait un saut de page après le « titre » et place la liste sur la page suivante. Est-ce que j'ai mal fait ou mal compris quelque chose ? Sinon, quel remède apporter ? Merci d'avance. Philippe Delavalade From - Sat Dec 30 09:54:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (smtp6-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.36]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBU8sABo003009 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 09:54:15 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [127.0.0.1] (sju13-3-82-234-221-201.fbx.proxad.net [82.234.221.201]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13F6D435A9 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 09:54:10 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4596293B.3070304@geo.hmg.inpg.fr> Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 09:54:19 +0100 From: xavier roguiez User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] nopagebreak References: <20061230043654.GA4947@club-internet.fr> In-Reply-To: <20061230043654.GA4947@club-internet.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sat, 30 Dec 2006 09:54:15 +0100 (CET) Philippe Delavalade wrote: > Bonjour. > > Je travaille sur un document dans lequel je définis un environnement de la > façon suivante : > > \newenvironment{truc}[1]% > {\pagebreak[3]% pour inciter latex à changer de page avant le début > \texttt{#1}\hspace*{\fill}% #1 tient toujours sur une ligne > \nopagebreak% là je ne veux pas de saut de page > \begin{list}{}{\topsep=0pt \parsep=0pt \partopsep=0pt \itemsep=0pt}}% > {\end{list}} > > le document est exclusivement constitué de ce genre d'environnement ; les > listes sont très courtes en général (un, deux ou trois items) ; > le résultat est presque toujours conforme à mon attente mais, dans deux > ou trois cas, latex fait un saut de page après le « titre » et place la > liste sur la page suivante. > > Est-ce que j'ai mal fait ou mal compris quelque chose ? > Sinon, quel remède apporter ? > Bonjour Je ne reponds pas directement à la question, mais en modifiant la macro avec l'environnement minipage vous créez des boites non sécables. \newenvironment{truc}[1]% {\pagebreak[3]% pour inciter latex à changer de page avant le début \begin{minipage}% {\textwidth}\texttt{#1}\hspace*{\fill}% #1 tient toujours sur une ligne \nopagebreak% là je ne veux pas de saut de page \begin{list}{}{\topsep=0pt \parsep=0pt \partopsep=0pt \itemsep=0pt}}% {\end{list}% \end{minipage}} J'ai testé votre environnement, sur une liste un peu longue la page coupe la liste au milieu est ce voulu ou recherché ? Xavier roguiez From - Sat Dec 30 10:20:37 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from relay-av.club-internet.fr (relay-av.club-internet.fr [194.158.96.107]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBU9KU2E016055 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 10:20:35 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from magellan (di275-1-87-91-253-47.dsl.club-internet.fr [87.91.253.47]) by relay-av.club-internet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B2725612 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 10:20:30 +0100 (CET) Received: by magellan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 748DDA566; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 10:21:19 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 10:21:19 +0100 From: Philippe Delavalade To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] nopagebreak Message-ID: <20061230092119.GA5697@club-internet.fr> References: <20061230043654.GA4947@club-internet.fr> <4596293B.3070304@geo.hmg.inpg.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4596293B.3070304@geo.hmg.inpg.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sat, 30 Dec 2006 10:20:35 +0100 (CET) Bonjour. Le samedi 30 décembre à 09:54, xavier roguiez a écrit : > Bonjour > Je ne reponds pas directement à la question, mais en modifiant la macro > avec l'environnement minipage vous créez des boites non sécables. > \newenvironment{truc}[1]% > {\pagebreak[3]% pour inciter latex à changer de page avant le début > \begin{minipage}% > {\textwidth}\texttt{#1}\hspace*{\fill}% #1 tient toujours sur une ligne > \nopagebreak% là je ne veux pas de saut de page > \begin{list}{}{\topsep=0pt \parsep=0pt \partopsep=0pt \itemsep=0pt}}% > {\end{list}% > \end{minipage}} > > J'ai testé votre environnement, sur une liste un peu longue la page > coupe la liste au milieu est ce voulu ou recherché ? Non voulu mais accepté ; c'est pourquoi je n'ai pas essayé minipage ; ce que je veux vraiment éviter c'est mon « titre » seul en bas de page. Philippe Delavalade > > Xavier roguiez > > From - Sat Dec 30 10:27:52 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.172]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBU9Rdba019770 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 10:27:44 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 32so4833685ugm for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 01:27:38 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Feuy6vHJw+WFtHwAh2AHG/M0qaQQnGK4gwmyhzDaVGzZvA8NmcC+dC1H1XS0Yn9P4TBNK1eQ8s7jvZuv9mul931hrIU1WaG5y1welSZQsZ/+KLyoYj5F/qo2LhWxe+oqd4Rtu1VFge1dNw02b7sFY8kVI3lFJBRZ/C4igZayDys= Received: by 10.66.221.6 with SMTP id t6mr22216188ugg.1167470858834; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 01:27:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.103? ( [82.240.214.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e1sm27105209ugf.2006.12.30.01.27.37; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 01:27:38 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4596311D.7050604@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 10:27:57 +0100 From: Ghislain Dutheil User-Agent: Icedove 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] livret sous latex References: <200610271131.32936.frederic38300@aol.com> <4593A10B.4010307@gmail.com> <1EA1CF03-8F2A-4795-B958-613B7C9F6161@supelec.fr> In-Reply-To: <1EA1CF03-8F2A-4795-B958-613B7C9F6161@supelec.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sat, 30 Dec 2006 10:27:44 +0100 (CET) Frédéric Boulanger wrote: > J'ai écrit un package LaTeX qui utilise pdfpages pour produire un > livret A6 > à partir d'un document A4. Je l'utilise pour créer une version papier de > mon carnet d'adresse Palm. Le document obtenu, imprimé en A4 recto-verso > est ensuite coupé en deux pour obtenir des feuillets A5 que j'empile, > plie > en deux et agrafe en leur milieu (par exemple avec une agrafeuse dépliée, > en positionnant le pli du papier à la limite entre deux tables pour > maintenir > le papier tout en laissant les agrafes passer entre les tables. Je replie > ensuite les agrafes à la main). > > Si le document d'origine est "source.pdf", on écrit le nombre de pages > de ce > document dans un fichier "source.pages", puis on compile le document > suivant avec pdflatex : > > \documentclass[a4paper,twoside]{article} > \usepackage{pdfbooklet} > > \begin{document} > \makepdfbooklet{source}% > \end{document} > > pour obtenir le livret. > > Si le document d'origine est produit avec LaTeX, le fichier > "source.pages" peut > être obtenu automatiquement en ajoutant : > > \AtEndDocument{% > \newwrite{\numberofpages} > \immediate\openout\numberofpages\jobname.pages% > \immediate\write\numberofpages{\thepage}% > \immediate\closeout\numberofpages > } > > au préambule du document "source.tex". > > Frédéric Boulanger. > > > Le 28 déc. 06 à 11:48, Ghislain Dutheil a écrit : > >> Frederic Baldit wrote: >>> Bonjour, >>> quelqu'un sait-il s'il est possible de faire un livret sous LaTeX ? >>> Ce que j'entends par livret est un document dont les pages sont au >>> format A5 >>> et tel que l'impression soit prévue sur des feuilles A4 (ensuite >>> pliées et >>> réunies). Par exemple, pour un document tenant sur 8 pages A5, les deux >>> feuilles A4 doivent être ainsi imprimées : >>> >>> recto verso >>> feuille 1 >>> (imprimée en mode paysage) >>> ______________ ______________ >>> | | | | | | >>> | p8 | p1 | | p2 | p7 | >>> | | | | | | >>> |_______| ______| |______ |_______| >>> >>> recto verso >>> feuille 2 >>> (imprimée en mode paysage) >>> ______________ ______________ >>> | | | | | | >>> | p6 | p3 | | p4 | p5 | >>> | | | | | | >>> |_______| ______| |______ |_______| >>> >>> Merci pour toute aide. >>> Cordialement, >>> F.Baldit. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Bonjour, >> >> je voudrais faire la même chose mais avec 4 pages sur chaque feuille a4 >> pour apres faire un livret une fois plier au format a6. >> J'ai essayé les outils postscript mais en vain je n'y arrive pas (j'ai >> réussi à faire ce que demande F. Baldit, mais pas mon problème...) >> >> si vous avez une idée merci >> >> Ghislain > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Frédéric Boulanger | Frederic.Boulanger@supelec.fr| > | Supélec - Département Informatique | tel: +33 [0]1 69 85 14 84 | > | Plateau de Moulon, 3 rue Joliot-Curie | fax: +33 [0]1 69 85 14 99 | > | 91192 Gif-sur-Yvette Cedex, France | Supelec:+33 [0]1 69 85 12 12 | > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > Grace à Frederic j'ai reussi à faire le livret, mon problème maintenant c'est que pour que ça reste lisible aprés réduction je fais \Large dans le document d'origine, mais dans le livret cela donne des polices assez laides ("s" plus grand que les autres lettres par exemple). La solution \Large ne doit pas être la bonne, que me conseillerez vous ? Merci Ghislain From - Sat Dec 30 12:01:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp8-g19.free.fr (smtp8-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.65]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBUB0sJL073143 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 12:00:59 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [192.168.0.1] (sac91-1-82-232-90-131.fbx.proxad.net [82.232.90.131]) by smtp8-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABBD3550D for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 12:00:54 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <4596311D.7050604@gmail.com> References: <200610271131.32936.frederic38300@aol.com> <4593A10B.4010307@gmail.com> <1EA1CF03-8F2A-4795-B958-613B7C9F6161@supelec.fr> <4596311D.7050604@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric_Boulanger?= Subject: Re: [gut] livret sous latex Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 12:01:01 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sat, 30 Dec 2006 12:00:59 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBUB0sJL073143 Est-ce uniquement à l'écran ou la "laideur" persiste-t-elle à l'impression ? Si vous utilisez des polices bitmaps, la mise à l'échelle pour passer du A4 au A6 peut avoir des effets désagréables, surtout à l'écran car sa résolution est faible. Personnellement, je n'utilise que des polices de type 1 depuis de nombreuses années, les polices bitmap étant rendues trop mal à l'écran dans les documents PDF, et je n'ai pas ce type de problème. Est-ce que \usepackage{fourier}, ou à défaut, \usepackage{times} arrange les choses ? Frédéric. Le 30 déc. 06 à 10:27, Ghislain Dutheil a écrit : > Grace à Frederic j'ai reussi à faire le livret, mon problème > maintenant > c'est que pour que ça reste lisible aprés réduction je fais \Large > dans > le document d'origine, mais dans le livret cela donne des polices > assez > laides ("s" plus grand que les autres lettres par exemple). > La solution \Large ne doit pas être la bonne, que me conseillerez > vous ? > > Merci > > Ghislain +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Frédéric Boulanger | Frederic.Boulanger@supelec.fr| | Supélec - Département Informatique | tel: +33 [0]1 69 85 14 84 | | Plateau de Moulon, 3 rue Joliot-Curie | fax: +33 [0]1 69 85 14 99 | | 91192 Gif-sur-Yvette Cedex, France | Supelec:+33 [0]1 69 85 12 12 | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From - Sat Dec 30 13:05:04 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr (smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr [193.252.23.120] (may be forged)) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBUC4wHH011574 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 13:04:58 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0113.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 539AD7000086 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 13:04:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (ALille-257-1-129-176.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.207.12.176]) by mwinf0113.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 25C127000083 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 13:04:58 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20061230120458154.25C127000083@mwinf0113.orange.fr X-ME-User-Auth: dbitouze Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 13:05:41 +0100 From: Denis =?ISO-8859-1?B?Qml0b3V66Q==?= To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] livret sous latex Message-ID: <20061230130541.2ab00bef@localhost> In-Reply-To: References: <200610271131.32936.frederic38300@aol.com> <4593A10B.4010307@gmail.com> <1EA1CF03-8F2A-4795-B958-613B7C9F6161@supelec.fr> <4596311D.7050604@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.3; i586-mandriva-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sat, 30 Dec 2006 13:04:58 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id kBUC4wHH011574 Le Sat, 30 Dec 2006 12:01:01 +0100 Frédéric Boulanger a écrit : > Est-ce que \usepackage{fourier}, ou à défaut, \usepackage{times} > arrange les choses ? Ou encore \usepackage{lmodern} ? -- Denis From - Sat Dec 30 17:46:36 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.171]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBUGkOpX071015 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 17:46:29 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 32so4872790ugm for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 08:46:24 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=dNDjvbgIGSGcDXO5hWZa/RAgYRxOAstCzCrvTxfCfWXJoWnyO/XaWvooKPqEU+ooPVC/HvOOQKbH2LTAGzb/ywkiwfhVKHRhqhyQZMVtt5zbQN1LkpZpY/sFgMG6tWlIt/Qgn530MoMIq8Y4YZGEg1tA/nnabFn78X8Htv3oNiY= Received: by 10.67.20.3 with SMTP id x3mr10871883ugi.1167497182743; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 08:46:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.103? ( [82.240.214.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id x33sm23236632ugc.2006.12.30.08.46.21; Sat, 30 Dec 2006 08:46:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <459697ED.8020903@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 17:46:37 +0100 From: Ghislain Dutheil User-Agent: Icedove 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] livret sous latex References: <200610271131.32936.frederic38300@aol.com> <4593A10B.4010307@gmail.com> <1EA1CF03-8F2A-4795-B958-613B7C9F6161@supelec.fr> <4596311D.7050604@gmail.com> <20061230130541.2ab00bef@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20061230130541.2ab00bef@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sat, 30 Dec 2006 17:46:29 +0100 (CET) Denis Bitouzé wrote: > Le Sat, 30 Dec 2006 12:01:01 +0100 > Frédéric Boulanger a écrit : > > >> Est-ce que \usepackage{fourier}, ou à défaut, \usepackage{times} >> arrange les choses ? >> > > Ou encore \usepackage{lmodern} ? > Toutes ces solutions amméliorent grandement les choses, merci. Savez vous où je peux trouver une listes de ces packages de caractères avec des exemples qui permettent de se rendre compte de ce que ça peut donner ?? From - Sun Dec 31 13:51:27 2006 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from esna.cc.strath.ac.uk (vif-mailread-e.cc.strath.ac.uk [130.159.16.86]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id kBVCpGvO025785 for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2006 13:51:21 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from unit218.murray.village.strath.ac.uk ([10.1.17.218]:49284) by esna.cc.strath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.34 #1) id 1H109j-000451-4K for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2006 12:51:15 +0000 Message-ID: <4597B1C7.9060108@strath.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 12:49:11 +0000 From: Anthony JACOB User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: GUT Subject: Ecriture en =?UTF-8?B?dGNow6hxdWUgPSBwcm9ibMOobWUgZCdhY2NlbnRz?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Strath-Information: Contact for more information X-Strath-Scan: clean X-Strath-UBECheck: X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sun, 31 Dec 2006 13:51:21 +0100 (CET) Bonjour, Un copain tchèque se met au LaTeX sous Windows avec MikTeX. Le problème c'est que pour le moment il ne lui ai pas possible de taper les caractères accentués en tchèque. Il utilisait TeXniCenter mais celui-ci ne peut pas d'encoder les caractères en UTF-8 (il me semble), donc je lui ai conseillé de passer à TeXMaker et d'encoder en UTF-8 pour tenter de saisir directement son texte. Dans le préambule, il a juste : \documentclass[a4paper,11pt]{book} \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} et lorsqu'on le met des lettres tchèques par exemple un "u" avec un accent aigü soit en le saisissant directement au clavier soit par \'u nous avons l'erreur du genre : "Font not availabe, use substitued" Je n'explique pas cette erreur car chez moi (sous Mac OS X), cela fonctionne très bien si je fais l'essai. Faut-il mettre \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} dans le préambule pour arranger les choses ? Merci d'avance pour votre aide, Anthony