From - Mon Jan 1 17:20:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.168]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l01GJwCA086252 for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 17:20:04 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 32so5046666ugm for ; Mon, 01 Jan 2007 08:19:58 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=cQJ4lB14S69ggeVHK2UXIplJfHMB/nIBR8+AAL0uxJgThfihaLcqgJhxf2hrGM5ossCm9bHvDh46h0hy4+FjpNcbHuCSbcqN+sC/YeYDe43bR6nn5wQ1VFfT6HkVrx+tQS1tJyIw1H2VzoaO+znGy86sITpAySwVEKz5SgigN3c= Received: by 10.67.20.3 with SMTP id x3mr12819406ugi.1167668398674; Mon, 01 Jan 2007 08:19:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from DFCGXC1J ( [83.134.217.242]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id x33sm25148216ugc.2007.01.01.08.19.58; Mon, 01 Jan 2007 08:19:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000901c72dc0$ad47c0c0$f2d98653@DFCGXC1J> From: "Cristian" To: Subject: Un nouveau Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 17:19:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 01 Jan 2007 17:20:04 +0100 (CET) Bonjour, Je viens de m'inscrire sur la liste, je me suis dit que j'allais me présenter. Sauf que je ne sais pas trop quoi dire... à part que j'ai l'intention d'apprendre à utiliser LaTeX, j'en suis encore à la lecture et que vous pourriez peut-être répondre à certaines de mes questions. Voilà. En passant, je souhaite à tout le monde une très joyeuse année 2007 ! A bientôt, Cristian From - Tue Jan 2 00:08:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.5 required=5.0 tests=SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp8-g19.free.fr (smtp8-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.65]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l01N8Thx062480 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 00:08:34 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [81.56.205.98] (lns-bzn-50f-81-56-205-98.adsl.proxad.net [81.56.205.98]) by smtp8-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D8B5489 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 00:08:29 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45999460.6030106@free.fr> Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 00:08:16 +0100 From: MAROT Jacques User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060915) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Ecriture en =?UTF-8?B?dGNow6hxdWUgPSBwcm9ibMOobWUgZCdh?= =?UTF-8?B?Y2NlbnRz?= References: <4597B1C7.9060108@strath.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <4597B1C7.9060108@strath.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 02 Jan 2007 00:08:34 +0100 (CET) Anthony JACOB a écrit : > Bonjour, > > Un copain tchèque se met au LaTeX sous Windows avec MikTeX. Le > problème c'est que pour le moment il ne lui ai pas possible de taper > les caractères accentués en tchèque. Il utilisait TeXniCenter mais > celui-ci ne peut pas d'encoder les caractères en UTF-8 (il me semble), > donc je lui ai conseillé de passer à TeXMaker et d'encoder en UTF-8 > pour tenter de saisir directement son texte. > Dans le préambule, il a juste : > \documentclass[a4paper,11pt]{book} > \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} > et lorsqu'on le met des lettres tchèques par exemple un "u" avec un > accent aigü soit en le saisissant directement au clavier soit par \'u > nous avons l'erreur du genre : > "Font not availabe, use substitued" Ce n'est pas texniccenter qui est en cause, puisqu'il est entièrement dépendant du codage de caractère utilisé par windows. Deux possibilités : 1) Votre ami tchèque utilise un windows configuré en tchèque et son préambule doit être : \documentclass[a4paper,11pt]{book} \usepackage[LC2]{fontenc} \usepackage[cp1250]{inputenc} \usepackage[czech]{babel} \begin{document} ....... \end{document} 2) S'il s'agit d'un windows configuré en français, le code ascii étendu pour les langues latines ne contient pas tous les caractères possibles de l'alphabet tchèque, qu'il contiendrait si windows était configuré pour le tchèque. Il faut alors utiliser le préambule habituel en France et coder les 3 signes diacritiques tchèques selon cet exemple : \documentclass[a4paper,11pt]{book} \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc} \usepackage[francais]{babel} \begin{document} 1) hacek ----> \v ex : \v Cestinou 2) La longueur ( identique à l'accent français) \' ex : Dobr\' y den 3) krouzek ----> \r ex : d\r um \end{document} V\v{e]chno n\v{e}lep\v{s}i do nov\'{e}ho roku 2007 Jacques From - Tue Jan 2 18:54:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.5 required=5.0 tests=SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from esna.cc.strath.ac.uk (vif-mailread-e.cc.strath.ac.uk [130.159.16.86]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l02HrwEp011360 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 18:54:03 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from unit218.murray.village.strath.ac.uk ([10.1.17.218]:50279) by esna.cc.strath.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.34 #1) id 1H1npl-0005I1-RH for ; Tue, 02 Jan 2007 17:53:57 +0000 Message-ID: <459A8156.5080703@strath.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 15:59:18 +0000 From: Anthony JACOB User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Macintosh/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Ecriture en =?UTF-8?B?dGNow6hxdWUgPSBwcm9ibMOobWUgZCdh?= =?UTF-8?B?Y2NlbnRz?= References: <4597B1C7.9060108@strath.ac.uk> <45999460.6030106@free.fr> In-Reply-To: <45999460.6030106@free.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Strath-Information: Contact for more information X-Strath-Scan: clean X-Strath-UBECheck: X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 02 Jan 2007 18:54:03 +0100 (CET) MAROT Jacques wrote: > Ce n'est pas texniccenter qui est en cause, puisqu'il est entièrement > dépendant du codage de caractère utilisé par windows. Deux > possibilités : > 1) Votre ami tchèque utilise un windows configuré en > tchèque et son préambule doit être : > \documentclass[a4paper,11pt]{book} > \usepackage[LC2]{fontenc} > \usepackage[cp1250]{inputenc} > \usepackage[czech]{babel} > \begin{document} ....... \end{document} Très bien merci, je pense que c'est sûrement la meilleure solution pour le moment. Cela dit, je pensais qu'un encodage en UTF-8 était plus approprié, est-ce que je me trompe ou pas ? En effet, on pourrait imaginer que mon copain passe un jour à Linux et ça pourrait être plutôt génant non ? C'est pquoi j'avais pensé à un préambule \documentclass[a4paper,11pt]{book} \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} Mais je ne savais pas quoi mettre comme fonte. Chez moi avec un \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} cela fonctionne bien. Je savais lui proposer cette solution car elle me semble pour l'instant le plus pratique puisque son Windows est en tchèque, mais ça ne me plait pas trop au niveau de la portabilité, j'ai l'impression qu'il ne sera pas possible d'utiliser ces fichiers simplement sur un autre système d'exploitation non ? > 2) S'il s'agit d'un windows configuré en français, le code ascii > étendu pour les langues latines ne contient pas tous les caractères > possibles de l'alphabet tchèque, qu'il contiendrait si windows était > configuré pour le tchèque. Il faut alors utiliser le préambule > habituel en France et coder les 3 signes diacritiques tchèques selon > cet exemple : > \documentclass[a4paper,11pt]{book} > \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc} > \usepackage[francais]{babel} > \begin{document} > 1) hacek ----> \v ex : \v Cestinou > 2) La longueur (identique à l'accent français) \' ex : Dobr\' y den > 3) krouzek ----> \r ex : d\r um > \end{document} J'avais essayé cette méthode, mais je ne savais pas comment faire pour obtenir l'accent donné par \v et le \' u m'avait donné des erreurs, il semblerait donc que \r u soit plus adapté non ? (sous Mac je n'ai aucun problème pour taper cela). > V\v{e]chno n\v{e}lep\v{s}i do nov\'{e}ho roku 2007 Je ne comprends pas le tchèque mais j'imagine que cela veut dire : "bonne année 2007", alors MERCI ET TOI AUSSI ! :) Merci pour l'aide et le cours de tchèque :) Anthony From - Tue Jan 2 21:28:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.5 required=5.0 tests=SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp7-g19.free.fr (smtp7-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.64]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l02KS3pK023280 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 21:28:08 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [81.56.205.98] (unknown [81.56.205.98]) by smtp7-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4A4556F for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 21:28:02 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <459AC046.20604@free.fr> Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 21:27:50 +0100 From: MAROT Jacques User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Ecriture en =?UTF-8?B?dGNow6hxdWUgPSBwcm9ibMOobWUgZCdh?= =?UTF-8?B?Y2NlbnRz?= References: <4597B1C7.9060108@strath.ac.uk> <45999460.6030106@free.fr> <459A8156.5080703@strath.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <459A8156.5080703@strath.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 02 Jan 2007 21:28:08 +0100 (CET) Anthony JACOB a écrit : > MAROT Jacques wrote: >> Ce n'est pas texniccenter qui est en cause, puisqu'il est entièrement >> dépendant du codage de caractère utilisé par windows. Deux >> possibilités : 1) Votre ami tchèque utilise un windows configuré en >> tchèque et son préambule doit être : >> \documentclass[a4paper,11pt]{book} \usepackage[LC2]{fontenc} >> \usepackage[cp1250]{inputenc} \usepackage[czech]{babel} >> \begin{document} ....... \end{document} > > Très bien merci, je pense que c'est sûrement la meilleure solution > pour le moment. Cela dit, je pensais qu'un encodage en UTF-8 était > plus approprié, est-ce que je me trompe ou pas ? En effet, on pourrait > imaginer que mon copain passe un jour à Linux et ça pourrait être > plutôt génant non ? non au contraire, jai travaillé au début sous windows en latin1, j'ai migré sous linux il y a quelques petites années, tout mes textes en latin1 étaient entièrement utilisables. J'ai adopté maintenant un linux tout UTF8, et mon éditeur KILE permet de lire des sources en latin1 ou latin2 et de les enregistrer en UTF8. Mon préambule est alors : \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} \usepackage{czech,francais} et les caractères sont tapés tels quels dans l'éditeur sans passer par \v ou \r. soit avec un linux configuré en tchèque ou si le clavier est en français on obtient les caractères avec signes diacritiques avec la touche "compose " de linux qui est en fait la touche avec le logo de windows à droite de la barre d'espace. > donc que \r u soit plus adapté non ? (sous Mac je n'ai aucun problème > pour taper cela). la pronciation des voyelles tchèques est allongée par l'accent, sauf le u, qui dans 99% des cas est allongé par le rond dit kou\v{z}ek ( prononcer kro-ou-jek) Jacques From - Tue Jan 2 22:19:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr (smtp19.orange.fr [80.12.242.19]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l02LJf2q061535 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 22:19:46 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1921.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 514E71C0011B for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 22:19:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from [86.201.254.178] (AToulouse-254-1-79-178.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.201.254.178]) by mwinf1921.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D768D1C000FF for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 22:19:40 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20070102211940882.D768D1C000FF@mwinf1921.orange.fr Message-ID: <459ACC6C.5060808@wanadoo.fr> Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2007 22:19:40 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-C=F4me_Charpentier?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050927 Debian/1.7.8-1sarge3 X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Opposition \\ et \par References: <458FDC81.4070600@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <458FDC81.4070600@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 02 Jan 2007 22:19:46 +0100 (CET) Alban a écrit : > Bonjour ! > > je pense que je vais relancer un débat sur les "\\" c'est pas bien, mais > la question se pose toujours pour moi... > > À la place de de grandes phrases, je vais poser ma question à partir de > deux exemples. > > 1. Minipage > > \begin{minipage} > Premi\`ere ligne\par > Autre ligne\par > Derni\`ere ligne > \end{minipage} > > 2. Author > > \author{Me, mine and myself\\ > At home\\ > Ma ville\\ > Mon pays} > > Je sais bien que \\ produit un saut de ligne Oui. > et \par un saut de > paragraphe... Non. En tous cas, je n'aime pas cette dénomination. \par termine un paragraphe (au sens TeX du terme). C'est un peu plus qu'une subtilité. La commande \par ne sert pas qu'à placer un « saut » dans un document. > mais quand utiliser l'un plus que l'autre, surtout quand > la rendu est le même (puisque pas d'indentation par défaut dans les > minipage). Ben ce devrait être simple ! On emploie \\ lorsqu'on veut un saut de ligne en restant dans le même paragraphe et \par lorsqu'on veut terminer le paragraphe en cours. Le fait que dans l'exemple précis, le résultat soit le même ne devrait pas faire hésiter entre l'un ou l'autre. Il faudrait avoir une approche sémantique et non typographique des ordres que l'on donne une fois le \begin{document} passé : cela éviterait beaucoup de résultats « bizarres ». > Plus généralement, où utiliser l'un (et ne pas l'utiliser) et où > utiliser l'autre (idem). Je vais encore en oublier mais ce n'est pas grave. On utilise \\, pour les fins de vers d'une même strophe, les différentes lignes d'une adresse (le tout dans un boîte type minipage) et les différents item d'une liste. Voilà, j'en oublie sans doute mais ce serait point final autrement. > Je me pose la question d'autant plus que j'ai > régulièrement entendu crier sur des gens qui utilisaient toujours "\\" > (promis, je le le fais plus... d'ailleurs, je n'ose même plus les > utiliser...). On crie sur son utilisation intempestive en tant que marqueur de fin de paragraphe. Disons que l'on crie, de façon plus générale, sur une utilisation Wordienne de LaTeX : un ordre typographique au lieu d'un ordre sémantique. C'est comme mettre plein d'espaces pour faire une tabulation... sauf que là, TeX rappellera vite fait à l'ordre dans tous les cas :-) Enfin, on crie, on crie. D'abord, tout le monde ne crie pas :-) Et puis on crie plutôt sur le fait qu'on le ressasse sur tous les *bons* sites, listes de discussion et autres forii (malheureusement, quelques *mauvais* sites continuent à répandre de mauvaises informations sur la façon d'utiliser LaTeX). Cela peut être énervant de tomber sur une question qui dit : Ben ? TeX est fou ? J'ai fait « \\ \vspace{1cm} » et cela me donne n'importe quoi. On peut également ne pas s'énerver et dire de mettre \par à la place de \\ et d'ajouter un \setlength{\parindent}{0cm} en début de document si le retrait d'alinéa n'est pas voulu... et de préciser si c'est vraiment ce qui est voulu si on ne veut pas de retrait d'alinéa juste à cet endroit et si oui d'utiliser \noindent. Et de lire un bouquin sur TeX si on veut savoir techniquement pourquoi \\ \vspace{1cm} ne fonctionne pas comme souhaité. Pareil avec un « \\ \\ \\ \\ » qui ne donne pas franchement le résultat voulu. Si on raisonne de façon sémantique, les messages d'avertissement indiqués par LaTeX sont alors d'une évidence rare :-) > Merci de m'éclairer sur ce point ! (ça me ferait un beau cadeau de Noël) Rhâ, zut. Je suis maxi en retard pour Noël (ou super en avance) ! Jean-Côme Charpentier From - Wed Jan 3 00:12:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr (smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr [193.252.23.120] (may be forged)) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l02NCO3A032510 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 00:12:24 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0113.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 080EB700008C for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 00:12:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (ALille-257-1-9-196.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.198.208.196]) by mwinf0113.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D139D7000087 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 00:12:23 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20070102231223857.D139D7000087@mwinf0113.orange.fr X-ME-User-Auth: dbitouze Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 00:13:11 +0100 From: Denis =?ISO-8859-1?B?Qml0b3V66Q==?= To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Opposition \\ et \par Message-ID: <20070103001311.798b203b@localhost> In-Reply-To: <459ACC6C.5060808@wanadoo.fr> References: <458FDC81.4070600@gmail.com> <459ACC6C.5060808@wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.3; i586-mandriva-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 03 Jan 2007 00:12:24 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id l02NCO3A032510 Le Tue, 02 Jan 2007 22:19:40 +0100 Jean-Côme Charpentier a écrit : > On utilise \\, > pour [...] les différents > item d'une liste. Euh, t'es sûr, là ? -- Denis From - Wed Jan 3 15:20:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr (smtp19.orange.fr [80.12.242.1]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l03EKgYV073211 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 15:20:47 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1929.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0A57A1C00093 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 15:20:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from [86.201.254.178] (AToulouse-254-1-79-178.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.201.254.178]) by mwinf1929.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BE6A71C00086 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 15:20:41 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20070103142041780.BE6A71C00086@mwinf1929.orange.fr Message-ID: <459BBBB6.9040108@wanadoo.fr> Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 15:20:38 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-C=F4me_Charpentier?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050927 Debian/1.7.8-1sarge3 X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Opposition \\ et \par References: <458FDC81.4070600@gmail.com> <459ACC6C.5060808@wanadoo.fr> <20070103001311.798b203b@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20070103001311.798b203b@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 03 Jan 2007 15:20:47 +0100 (CET) Denis Bitouzé a écrit : > Le Tue, 02 Jan 2007 22:19:40 +0100 > Jean-Côme Charpentier a écrit : > >>On utilise \\, >>pour [...] les différents >>item d'une liste. > > Euh, t'es sûr, là ? De mon reste de réveillon et du voyage de retour ? Absolument sûr. Sinon, bien évidemment, pas de \\ pour les item, un \item suffira :-) Tiens ! cela fait encore moins d'occasions d'utiliser \\. Merci à mon ange gardien ! Jean-Côme Charpentier From - Wed Jan 3 17:51:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr (smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr [193.252.23.120] (may be forged)) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l03GpXwL064085 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 17:51:33 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0114.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 85EBF7000087 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 17:51:33 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (ALille-257-1-18-50.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.204.1.50]) by mwinf0114.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5AF0B7000088 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 17:51:33 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20070103165133372.5AF0B7000088@mwinf0114.orange.fr X-ME-User-Auth: dbitouze Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 17:52:21 +0100 From: Denis =?ISO-8859-1?B?Qml0b3V66Q==?= To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Opposition \\ et \par Message-ID: <20070103175221.643824ef@localhost> In-Reply-To: <459BBBB6.9040108@wanadoo.fr> References: <458FDC81.4070600@gmail.com> <459ACC6C.5060808@wanadoo.fr> <20070103001311.798b203b@localhost> <459BBBB6.9040108@wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.3; i586-mandriva-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 03 Jan 2007 17:51:33 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id l03GpXwL064085 Le Wed, 03 Jan 2007 15:20:38 +0100 Jean-Côme Charpentier a écrit : > Merci à mon ange gardien ! Jeuste colle mi Gabriel... -- Denis From - Wed Jan 3 18:41:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr (smtp19.orange.fr [80.12.242.1]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l03HfLdD091212 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 18:41:26 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1902.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 022251C0005A for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 18:41:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from [86.201.254.178] (AToulouse-254-1-79-178.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.201.254.178]) by mwinf1902.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 987DA1C0008C for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 18:41:20 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20070103174120624.987DA1C0008C@mwinf1902.orange.fr Message-ID: <459BEABF.4050705@wanadoo.fr> Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 18:41:19 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-C=F4me_Charpentier?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050927 Debian/1.7.8-1sarge3 X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Opposition \\ et \par References: <458FDC81.4070600@gmail.com> <459ACC6C.5060808@wanadoo.fr> <20070103001311.798b203b@localhost> <459BBBB6.9040108@wanadoo.fr> <20070103175221.643824ef@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20070103175221.643824ef@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 03 Jan 2007 18:41:26 +0100 (CET) Denis Bitouzé a écrit : > Le Wed, 03 Jan 2007 15:20:38 +0100 > Jean-Côme Charpentier a écrit : > >> Merci à mon ange gardien ! > > Jeuste colle mi Gabriel... Ïoure ouèlle comme maï Gabriel (boudiou). Jean-Côme Charpentier From - Wed Jan 3 19:06:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l03I6nEE007310 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 2007 19:06:54 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 32so5528550ugm for ; Wed, 03 Jan 2007 10:06:49 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=ZPIoX3oaXeAJ2mo88g18PUAg5RKIY0jUqeB+VfBYfmvexh2pM3E7MFtdmxDxPnofkom0bkRgMbwVJ0vC+dQhc4VHFGKnRaDH3CqDuVtJgGs5ynbIEt4TnVIQlzxEHB+HgrC0xoXJRMOYFwI2+mbbg3SLxH321SESE7LYxv/G9Ik= Received: by 10.66.216.1 with SMTP id o1mr27361606ugg.1167847608915; Wed, 03 Jan 2007 10:06:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? ( [84.102.172.228]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id o30sm32696432ugd.2007.01.03.10.06.47; Wed, 03 Jan 2007 10:06:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <459BF0B5.2030901@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2007 19:06:45 +0100 From: Alban User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Opposition \\ et \par References: <458FDC81.4070600@gmail.com> <459ACC6C.5060808@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <459ACC6C.5060808@wanadoo.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 03 Jan 2007 19:06:54 +0100 (CET) Jean-Côme Charpentier a écrit : > Rhâ, zut. Je suis maxi en retard pour Noël (ou super en avance) ! Y'a pas de mal, je n'avais pas Internet depuis une semaine (ah, les vacances à la compagne ;-p). En tout cas, merci beaucoup, au moins, j'ai compris quelque chose ! Merci aussi à Denis pour sa petite correction ! ;-) Bonne année à tous ! (même si je ne participe pas beaucoup, je lis pratiquement tous les messages de la liste... et j'apprends beaucoup !) Alban From - Sat Jan 6 14:21:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from relay-am.club-internet.fr (relay-am.club-internet.fr [194.158.104.67]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l06DLN80075340 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 2007 14:21:29 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from magellan (di275-1-87-91-253-47.dsl.club-internet.fr [87.91.253.47]) by relay-am.club-internet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1EBF25609 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 2007 14:21:22 +0100 (CET) Received: by magellan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 82570A568; Sat, 6 Jan 2007 14:22:15 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 14:22:15 +0100 From: Philippe Delavalade To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] nopagebreak Message-ID: <20070106132215.GA4903@club-internet.fr> References: <20061230043654.GA4947@club-internet.fr> <4596293B.3070304@geo.hmg.inpg.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <4596293B.3070304@geo.hmg.inpg.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sat, 06 Jan 2007 14:21:29 +0100 (CET) Bonjour. Le samedi 30 décembre à 09:54, xavier roguiez a écrit : > Philippe Delavalade wrote: > >Bonjour. > > > >Je travaille sur un document dans lequel je définis un environnement de la > >façon suivante : > > > >\newenvironment{truc}[1]% > >{\pagebreak[3]% pour inciter latex à changer de page avant le début > >\texttt{#1}\hspace*{\fill}% #1 tient toujours sur une ligne > >\nopagebreak% là je ne veux pas de saut de page > >\begin{list}{}{\topsep=0pt \parsep=0pt \partopsep=0pt \itemsep=0pt}}% > >{\end{list}} > > > >le document est exclusivement constitué de ce genre d'environnement ; les > >listes sont très courtes en général (un, deux ou trois items) ; > >le résultat est presque toujours conforme à mon attente mais, dans deux > >ou trois cas, latex fait un saut de page après le « titre » et place la > >liste sur la page suivante. > > > >Est-ce que j'ai mal fait ou mal compris quelque chose ? > >Sinon, quel remède apporter ? > > > Bonjour > Je ne reponds pas directement à la question, mais en modifiant la macro > avec l'environnement minipage vous créez des boites non sécables. > \newenvironment{truc}[1]% > {\pagebreak[3]% pour inciter latex à changer de page avant le début > \begin{minipage}% > {\textwidth}\texttt{#1}\hspace*{\fill}% #1 tient toujours sur une ligne > \nopagebreak% là je ne veux pas de saut de page > \begin{list}{}{\topsep=0pt \parsep=0pt \partopsep=0pt \itemsep=0pt}}% > {\end{list}% > \end{minipage}} > > J'ai testé votre environnement, sur une liste un peu longue la page > coupe la liste au milieu est ce voulu ou recherché ? > > Xavier roguiez > > J'ai finalement adopté la méthode proposée par Xavier mais du coup il m'arrive un truc bizarre, plutôt deux en vérité : -- la compilation est devenue extrêmement longue (près d'une minute) au lieu d'une demi-douzaine de secondes ; -- dans certains cas, si je compile (le même fichier), plusieurs fois il arrive que tout s'arrête et que j'obtienne dans le fichier log le message suivant : Runaway argument? {language@active\string ~ ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [main memory size=1500000]. ...\string ~}{language@active\string ~} Est-ce que le principe des minipages est gourmand en mémoire ? Mon document est constitué à 99% de ces minipages, il y en a plus de 7600 :-) Je profite de ce message pour évoquer un autre problème : la table des matières (25 enrées environ) qui devrait tenir sur une page, tient en deux car les interlignes entre les entrées sont extrêmement grands ; je suit en classe book, les seules entrées sont des chapitres ; si je remplace « chapter » par « section », là tout va bien (du moins comme je le souhaite) ; de plus, avec les chapitres, il n'y a pas de points de conduite entre l'entrée et la page alors qu'il y en a avec les sections et que j'en voudrais avec les chapitres. Merci d'avance pour vos aides et conseils. Philippe Delavalade From - Mon Jan 8 16:41:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp8.orange.fr (smtp8.orange.fr [193.252.22.23]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l08FfOlr067038 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 16:41:25 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [90.14.222.83] (AMarseille-256-1-175-83.w90-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.14.222.83]) by mwinf0803.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 805D01C0018B for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 16:41:24 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20070108154124525.805D01C0018B@mwinf0803.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <95B22E1B-A8A7-464F-BAE0-26F61AB1B67E@mac.com> References: <4FF9A300-01C3-456A-97D4-A7B7AAD333FF@wanadoo.fr> <20061222211912.0ca4a3bd@localhost> <06122311035000.00752@rbastian> <0B0BEAC2-F6F8-4B2C-B2AC-1FA6588CE23F@wanadoo.fr> <8736A01F-90CB-4AFB-984D-CC2D393B72A9@wanadoo.fr> <5A490C06-8F0E-4D3E-832C-CA9A4FC7B154@mac.com> <398122A3-DA72-4EED-B6E4-06DF28C93709@mac.com> <16F5AA7D-9127-4F91-A972-77900769D78A@wanadoo.fr> <95B22E1B-A8A7-464F-BAE0-26F61AB1B67E@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <460C2223-C74B-4E62-BE36-A6B7198E11AD@wanadoo.fr> From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: [gut] pstricks, asymptote, pgf Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 16:41:13 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 08 Jan 2007 16:41:25 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id l08FfOlr067038 J'hésite à sauter!!! Le 29 déc. 06 à 09:22, Frank STENGEL a écrit : > > Non, non, mikteX n'est pas nécessaire... Les outils (mpm notamment) > peuvent être installés sans mikTeX (qui ne marche que sous 'doze). > En fait mpm permet de gérer les paquets qu'il installe (d'habitude > dans l'arborescence texmf.local ou similaire). En gros > > il y a 8 mois j'ai installé le bazar (lecture de README et de > INSTALL, ./configure, make, sudo make install ; le tout dans un > dossier sans espace dans le nom...) Ce que tu as installé, c'est quoi ? mpm ou mktex ? Parce que, mpm, je ne l'ai pas. Donc, il faut charger l'ensemble. Oui ? > > il y a 6 mois j'ai fait (un exemple) : > > sudo mpm --install pgf > > récemment j'ai fait > > sudo mpm --find-upates > > et il m'a répondu (entre autres) pgf et donc j'ai fait : > > sudo mpm --update pgf > > Un coup de sudo texhash et tout est bon. Une remarque cependant, > mpm ne gère que les paquets qu'il installe (et donc disponibles > pour mikTeX) et les paquets sont mis à jour avec un peu de retard > par rapport à leur sortie officielle (pas longtemps : de l'ordre de > quelques semaines) > Salut; merci pour tes mots ... et meilleurs vœux! Jacques Vernin From - Mon Jan 8 17:55:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.185]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l08GtbIg039838 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:55:43 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from mac.com (smtpin06-en2 [10.13.10.151]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout15/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id l08Gtbf1005382 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 08:55:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (anancy-153-1-16-79.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.196.31.79]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin06/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id l08GtEED017062 for ; Mon, 8 Jan 2007 08:55:35 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <460C2223-C74B-4E62-BE36-A6B7198E11AD@wanadoo.fr> References: <4FF9A300-01C3-456A-97D4-A7B7AAD333FF@wanadoo.fr> <20061222211912.0ca4a3bd@localhost> <06122311035000.00752@rbastian> <0B0BEAC2-F6F8-4B2C-B2AC-1FA6588CE23F@wanadoo.fr> <8736A01F-90CB-4AFB-984D-CC2D393B72A9@wanadoo.fr> <5A490C06-8F0E-4D3E-832C-CA9A4FC7B154@mac.com> <398122A3-DA72-4EED-B6E4-06DF28C93709@mac.com> <16F5AA7D-9127-4F91-A972-77900769D78A@wanadoo.fr> <95B22E1B-A8A7-464F-BAE0-26F61AB1B67E@mac.com> <460C2223-C74B-4E62-BE36-A6B7198E11AD@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <8BEE7818-A381-4595-90F9-A830FA22C4EA@mac.com> From: Frank STENGEL Subject: Re: [gut] pstricks, asymptote, pgf Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:55:11 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 08 Jan 2007 17:55:46 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id l08GtbIg039838 Le 8 janv. 07 à 16:41, pir2.jv a écrit : > J'hésite à sauter!!! > Ça se comprend ;-) > Ce que tu as installé, c'est quoi ? mpm ou mktex ? Parce que, mpm, > je ne l'ai pas. Donc, il faut charger l'ensemble. Oui ? En fait : 1. je télécharge ceci : http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php? group_id=10783&package_id=160151 2. je lis le INSTALL et autre README ; 3. je suis les instructions... donc, on ne télécharge pas tout miktex, juste une série d'outils qui permettent d'utiliser la base de données de paquets de miktex. -- Frank STENGEL (fstengelmac.com) From - Tue Jan 9 09:05:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp9.orange.fr (smtp9.orange.fr [193.252.22.22]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0985HC5094273 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 09:05:18 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [192.168.0.6] (ASt-Lambert-153-1-93-20.w86-205.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.205.112.20]) by mwinf0908.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 82B7D1C00131 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 09:05:17 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20070109080517536.82B7D1C00131@mwinf0908.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) To: gut@ens.fr Message-Id: <36ED3B7C-7580-485F-BF41-314152912B63@enst.fr> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-5-1044155500" From: Laurent Decreusefond Subject: Extraction de listes LaTeX vers csv Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 09:05:16 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.1.2 (Tiger) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 09 Jan 2007 09:05:18 +0100 (CET) This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --Apple-Mail-5-1044155500 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-1044155465 --Apple-Mail-4-1044155465 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Bonjour, imaginons que j'ai une liste \begin{enumerate} \item \label{item:1} \begin{shortitem} Shorttitle pour cet item \end=20 {shortitem} Un item looooong \item \label{item:2} \begin{shortitem} Shorttitle pour cet autre item=20=20 \end{shortitem} Un autre item looooong \end{enumerate} Je voudrais dans un fichier texte annexe avoir la sortie 1;Shorttitle pour cet item 2;Shorttitle pour cet autre item M En clair (j'esp=E8re), je voudrais un r=E9sum=E9 de chaque item (rentr=E9 = =E0=20=20 la main par l'utilisateur dans un environnement idoine) avec son=20=20 num=E9ro r=E9el en LaTeX dans un fichier annexe. J'imagine qu'il y a un style LaTeX qui aide =E0 faire =E7a mais lequel ??? Merci. -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin) mQGiBEUg+o4RBAC59J5qx4LcjX0uolq/nAqT1p0oTrJY3R8AUy6P8OtdkBM7T8Y9 6IGUU4b1J9BrQ/gzUTD+4aB/4s7DJXVlJUuIBpAEqrgxa6z0ObLgpEoolABlyKn4 Qht6CBW1eTaR22C9OePpJ0eBk4xI7jC+UZho8OIMKj8+cCDpC1WNgoXhkwCggjJx NmDHJ6pOkeieutbIdqq4eKUD/jn0jyit6vRNdMZI4R5yABj18qW4kE9K/1jJwC/X +QuqvgckAZNVQmc2XKmSnlTsMixiA2HIhe+2/YOqsINAAB2g6fG6D8pdfJGMPjOH NTNn2nA43wpNOhAWPKLiQukeXXW/hRbFrwum4tlAb/Ul379uBT3wJ30bjPEiscFF Y8xGA/4/faKb8wRqlCkm+ikjStQKWcUUcmQnDIC1F1UGF8FO8wbdYTzINcZLkF+n 6izDmzo+7rDOlObOJjztFaXFFovOS3yGJd1tp+8Ki1lnKfqeirmi3UGjA664oe6H iv6GYyvduuPOXX7q0sIpy/qHkqAwwlzGYbzdDj7gm8ytTslGkbQzTGF1cmVudCBE ZWNyZXVzZWZvbmQgPExhdXJlbnQuRGVjcmV1c2Vmb25kQGVuc3QuZnI+iGAEExEC ACAFAkUg+o4CGwMGCwkIBwMCBBUCCAMEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRAeEdaI/aCIQrUI AJ45FI1B0HuCyCLiVaDiC9jXVRVAzACfVGFA6JoJkLmLphUSnc21HO6TCey5Ag0E RSD6oRAIANEdzVr631CTnMfakG/OrrygLo8eF8s7cbgCevUi8mrEQy3IQFq6atL3 we/vMIjMoj3yW6AiDcKIT+7EPa0l5QnhTz7QJO258EAEfeUTAgPH74I8WYZwqzGT R2JBd85CAGSfDSGDgn+ywS5IE9IG6n+/drB5Ba2dMB8znDcyvmGSlsZyhtHMQwBb Y8kOQ9MytnBK42SfefGD6FmqwmatKI1OeS8nfjhI4PBw7Y/Dn81/eWu52YeHOaU2 yyQYG6auXuqo9gR91zEU+Pln1ioc1TImNtcyTPNA4BWKVk6qXQe0VngaCGT/BBKH A3APs8r2gXOsTC8Q73F0yEkLjs3MAUcABA0IAL/jmgFwgQeiavDPlqrr/johHoMd RcXjR0Lj//SZDAPWj/tXMSTgvBVqKzGZ9obaFj29uHaxlWy7nnPE5tzMbva7nAF3 UT1CoL456Uhoc9qafWur9TBdqaZJqM2R0KWTrQ9GDLL4TQp/56O5gwymSOEs4IHk xIGgJ97fA3XQWlVSV3Mw4iG0+JMlpFPuQCnCk7nlro2E0lMML3pwIoPqBv2x9QeY 6KyWUKOCpD1xv4JJIvQhFeGKR9qz6n7fMNfsDYlRFnzlVdzVeB0xcR9zMnAEyoY3 qm5jTWaexK4tCGxPLxYtyG49WuA4E6Yvf/gsmXXRAK8toOEorA+C1sNjlpSISQQY EQIACQUCRSD6oQIbDAAKCRAeEdaI/aCIQgB5AJ9JMPslB4KvGscklD4DKSRC63kW PgCeI7r/yMWTNYmRO5QsykkiCDEoB/g=3D =3DCTsU -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- [LemonFresca:~] Laurent$ mv laurent-public.key /Volumes/KINGSTON/Cle=20 \314\201s/ [LemonFresca:~] Laurent$ gpg -ao laurent-public.key --export FDA08842 [LemonFresca:~] Laurent$ gpg --output revoke-laurent.asc --gen-revoke=20=20 FDA08842 sec 1024D/FDA08842 2006-10-02 Laurent Decreusefond=20=20 Create a revocation certificate for this key? (y/N) y Please select the reason for the revocation: 0 =3D No reason specified 1 =3D Key has been compromised 2 =3D Key is superseded 3 =3D Key is no longer used Q =3D Cancel (Probably you want to select 1 here) Your decision? Q [LemonFresca:~] Laurent$ cd /Volumes/KINGSTON/ [LemonFresca:/Volumes/KINGSTON] Laurent$ cd Cle\314\201s/ [LemonFresca:/Volumes/KINGSTON/Cl=E9s] Laurent$ more laurent-public.key -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin) mQGiBEUg+o4RBAC59J5qx4LcjX0uolq/nAqT1p0oTrJY3R8AUy6P8OtdkBM7T8Y9 6IGUU4b1J9BrQ/gzUTD+4aB/4s7DJXVlJUuIBpAEqrgxa6z0ObLgpEoolABlyKn4 Qht6CBW1eTaR22C9OePpJ0eBk4xI7jC+UZho8OIMKj8+cCDpC1WNgoXhkwCggjJx NmDHJ6pOkeieutbIdqq4eKUD/jn0jyit6vRNdMZI4R5yABj18qW4kE9K/1jJwC/X +QuqvgckAZNVQmc2XKmSnlTsMixiA2HIhe+2/YOqsINAAB2g6fG6D8pdfJGMPjOH NTNn2nA43wpNOhAWPKLiQukeXXW/hRbFrwum4tlAb/Ul379uBT3wJ30bjPEiscFF Y8xGA/4/faKb8wRqlCkm+ikjStQKWcUUcmQnDIC1F1UGF8FO8wbdYTzINcZLkF+n 6izDmzo+7rDOlObOJjztFaXFFovOS3yGJd1tp+8Ki1lnKfqeirmi3UGjA664oe6H iv6GYyvduuPOXX7q0sIpy/qHkqAwwlzGYbzdDj7gm8ytTslGkbQzTGF1cmVudCBE ZWNyZXVzZWZvbmQgPExhdXJlbnQuRGVjcmV1c2Vmb25kQGVuc3QuZnI+iGAEExEC ACAFAkUg+o4CGwMGCwkIBwMCBBUCCAMEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRAeEdaI/aCIQrUI AJ45FI1B0HuCyCLiVaDiC9jXVRVAzACfVGFA6JoJkLmLphUSnc21HO6TCey5Ag0E RSD6oRAIANEdzVr631CTnMfakG/OrrygLo8eF8s7cbgCevUi8mrEQy3IQFq6atL3 we/vMIjMoj3yW6AiDcKIT+7EPa0l5QnhTz7QJO258EAEfeUTAgPH74I8WYZwqzGT R2JBd85CAGSfDSGDgn+ywS5IE9IG6n+/drB5Ba2dMB8znDcyvmGSlsZyhtHMQwBb Y8kOQ9MytnBK42SfefGD6FmqwmatKI1OeS8nfjhI4PBw7Y/Dn81/eWu52YeHOaU2 yyQYG6auXuqo9gR91zEU+Pln1ioc1TImNtcyTPNA4BWKVk6qXQe0VngaCGT/BBKH A3APs8r2gXOsTC8Q73F0yEkLjs3MAUcABA0IAL/jmgFwgQeiavDPlqrr/johHoMd RcXjR0Lj//SZDAPWj/tXMSTgvBVqKzGZ9obaFj29uHaxlWy7nnPE5tzMbva7nAF3 UT1CoL456Uhoc9qafWur9TBdqaZJqM2R0KWTrQ9GDLL4TQp/56O5gwymSOEs4IHk xIGgJ97fA3XQWlVSV3Mw4iG0+JMlpFPuQCnCk7nlro2E0lMML3pwIoPqBv2x9QeY 6KyWUKOCpD1xv4JJIvQhFeGKR9qz6n7fMNfsDYlRFnzlVdzVeB0xcR9zMnAEyoY3 qm5jTWaexK4tCGxPLxYtyG49WuA4E6Yvf/gsmXXRAK8toOEorA+C1sNjlpSISQQY EQIACQUCRSD6oQIbDAAKCRAeEdaI/aCIQgB5AJ9JMPslB4KvGscklD4DKSRC63kW PgCeI7r/yMWTNYmRO5QsykkiCDEoB/g=3D =3DCTsU -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Laurent Decreusefond Laurent.Decreusefond@enst.fr --Apple-Mail-4-1044155465 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bonjour,

imaginons que j'ai une liste

\begin{enumerate}

\item \label{item:1} \begin{shortitem} = Shorttitle pour cet item \end{shortitem} Un item looooong=A0

\item \label{item:2} \begin{sh= ortitem} Shorttitle pour cet autre item \end{shortitem} Un autre item loooo= ong

\end{enumera= te}

Je voudrais = dans un fichier texte annexe avoir la sortie=A0

1;Shorttitle pour cet item=A0
2;S= horttitle pour cet autre item=A0M

En clair (j'esp=E8re), je voudrais un r=E9sum=E9 de chaqu= e item (rentr=E9 =E0 la main par l'utilisateur dans un environnement idoine= ) avec son num=E9ro r=E9el en LaTeX dans un fichier annexe.

J'imagine qu'il y a un style La= TeX qui aide =E0 faire =E7a mais lequel ???

Merci.



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[LemonFresca:~] Laurent$ mv l= aurent-public.key /Volumes/KINGSTON/Cle\314\201s/
[LemonFresca:~]= Laurent$ gpg -ao laurent-public.key --export FDA08842
[LemonFres= ca:~] Laurent$ gpg --output revoke-laurent.asc --gen-revoke FDA08842
<= DIV>
sec=A0 1024D/FDA08842 = 2006-10-02 Laurent Decreusefond <Laurent.Decreusefond@enst.fr>

Create a revocation certificate for this key?= (y/N) y
Please select the reason for the revocation:
= =A0 0 =3D No reason specified
=A0 1 =3D Key has been compromised<= /DIV>
=A0 2 =3D Key is superseded
=A0 3 =3D Key is no longer = used
=A0 Q =3D Cancel
(Probably you want to select 1 he= re)
Your decision? Q
[LemonFresca:~] Laurent$ cd /Volum= es/KINGSTON/
[LemonFresca:/Volumes/KINGSTON] Laurent$ cd Cle\314\= 201s/
[LemonFresca:/Volumes/KINGSTON/Cl=E9s] Laurent$ more lauren= t-public.key
-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Versi= on: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin)

<= /DIV>
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Y8xGA/4/faKb8wRqlCkm+ikjStQKWcUUcmQnDIC1F1UGF8FO8wbdYTzINcZLkF+n<= /DIV>
6izDmzo+7rDOlObOJjztFaXFFovOS3yGJd1tp+8Ki1lnKfqeirmi3UGjA664oe6H<= /DIV>
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AJ45FI1B0HuCyCLiVaDiC9jXVRVAzACfVGFA6JoJkLmLphUSnc21HO6TCey5Ag0E<= /DIV>
RSD6oRAIANEdzVr631CTnMfakG/OrrygLo8eF8s7cbgCevUi8mrEQy3IQFq6atL3<= /DIV>
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Laurent Decreusefond


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--Apple-Mail-4-1044155465-- --Apple-Mail-5-1044155500 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ceci_est_une_signature_=E9lectronique_PGP?= content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFo0y8HhHWiP2giEIRAvPHAJ0bg8rbCN6bxMupBRfew7HcAOkwiwCZAWpu rVkBeVHsbo/mTWSaRu1HXGE= =gOOd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-5-1044155500-- From - Tue Jan 9 12:58:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from clipper.ens.fr (clipper-gw.ens.fr [129.199.1.22]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l09BwpGd093180 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2007 12:58:51 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from (noirel@localhost) by clipper.ens.fr (8.13.1/jb-1.1) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 12:58:50 +0100 From: Josselin Noirel To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Extraction de listes LaTeX vers csv Message-ID: <20070109115850.GC7055@clipper.ens.fr> References: <36ED3B7C-7580-485F-BF41-314152912B63@enst.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <36ED3B7C-7580-485F-BF41-314152912B63@enst.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 09 Jan 2007 12:58:51 +0100 (CET) On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 09:05:16AM +0100, Laurent Decreusefond wrote: > Je voudrais dans un fichier texte annexe avoir la sortie > > 1;Shorttitle pour cet item > 2;Shorttitle pour cet autre item M > > En clair (j'espère), je voudrais un résumé de chaque item (rentré à > la main par l'utilisateur dans un environnement idoine) avec son > numéro réel en LaTeX dans un fichier annexe. > > J'imagine qu'il y a un style LaTeX qui aide à faire ça mais lequel ??? moreverb. Le seul inconvénient, c'est qu'il faut placer le titre sur une ligne à part. % Preamble \usepackage{moreverb} \makeatletter \newwrite \verbatim@outii \newcommand*{\setoutputfile}[1]{\immediate \openout \verbatim@outii #1 }% \AtEndDocument{\immediate \closeout \verbatim@outii} \makeatother \setoutputfile{\jobname.item} \makeatletter \newenvironment*{shortitem}{% \ifhmode \@bsphack \fi \let \do = \@makeother \dospecials \catcode`\^^M = \active \catcode`\^^I = 12 \def \verbatim@processline {% \immediate \write \verbatim@outii {\verbatim@prefix \the \verbatim@line}% \def \verbatim@prefix {}% }% \protected@edef \verbatim@prefix {\@nameuse{the\@listctr};}% \verbatim@start }{% \ifhmode \@esphack \fi } \makeatother % Body \begin{enumerate} \item \label{enum=label1} \begin{shortitem} A Short Title. \end{shortitem} A Longer Title for that particular item. \item \label{enum=label2} \begin{shortitem} A Short Title, though different. \end{shortitem} A Longer Title for that particular item. \end{enumerate} -- Joss From - Thu Jan 11 21:45:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from chemistry.ohio-state.edu (chemistry.ohio-state.edu [128.146.235.235]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0BKjliG055406 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 21:45:53 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from chemistry.ohio-state.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chemistry.ohio-state.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l0BKjh5a020644 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:45:43 -0500 (EST) Received: (from pdupre@localhost) by chemistry.ohio-state.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l0BKjhq0020642 for gut@ens.fr; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:45:43 -0500 (EST) From: Patrick Dupre Message-Id: <200701112045.l0BKjhq0020642@chemistry.ohio-state.edu> Subject: belle To: gut@ens.fr (Gutenberg) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:45:43 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 11 Jan 2007 21:45:53 +0100 (CET) Bonjour, Est-ce que je peux avoir un conseil pour une fonte autre que la fonte standard pour des formules mathematiques. Merci. -- --- ============================================================================== Patrick DUPRE | | Department of Chemistry | | Phone: (614) 292-8406 Ohio State University | | Fax: (614) 292-1948 120 West 18th Avenue | | Columbus, OH 43210-1173 | | email: pdupre@chemistry.ohio-state.edu ============================================================================== From - Thu Jan 11 21:55:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr (smtp19.orange.fr [80.12.242.18]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0BKtcd6063051 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 21:55:43 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1914.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8782C1C00069 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 21:55:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from [86.201.117.201] (AToulouse-254-1-82-201.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.201.117.201]) by mwinf1914.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 302991C000A0 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 21:55:38 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20070111205538197.302991C000A0@mwinf1914.orange.fr Message-ID: <45A6A449.8040604@wanadoo.fr> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 21:55:37 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-C=F4me_Charpentier?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050927 Debian/1.7.8-1sarge3 X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] belle References: <200701112045.l0BKjhq0020642@chemistry.ohio-state.edu> In-Reply-To: <200701112045.l0BKjhq0020642@chemistry.ohio-state.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 11 Jan 2007 21:55:43 +0100 (CET) Patrick Dupre a écrit : > Bonjour, > > Est-ce que je peux avoir un conseil pour une fonte autre que la fonte standard > pour des formules mathematiques. À ma connaissance et en libre accès, il n'y a pas un choix phénoménal : 1. Computer Modern et ses variantes (Latin modern en particulier), je suppose que c'était ce qui était appelé « fonte standard ». 2. Times avec un \usepackage{mathptmx} 3. Palatino avec un \usepackage{mathpazo} 4. Utopia avec un \usepackage{fourier} Les ceusses qui veulent compléter mes oublis sont les bienvenus. Maintenant, ce n'était peut-être pas la question. Ici, j'ai répertorié les solutions où l'on propose des fontes mathématiques basées sur les fontes de texte. Jean-Côme Charpentier From - Thu Jan 11 21:58:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from chemistry.ohio-state.edu (chemistry.ohio-state.edu [128.146.235.235]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0BKvso1064860 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 21:57:59 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from chemistry.ohio-state.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chemistry.ohio-state.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l0BKvk4T026959 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:57:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from pdupre@localhost) by chemistry.ohio-state.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l0BKvk10026954 for gut@ens.fr; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:57:46 -0500 (EST) From: Patrick Dupre Message-Id: <200701112057.l0BKvk10026954@chemistry.ohio-state.edu> Subject: Re: [gut] belle To: gut@ens.fr Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 15:57:45 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <45A6A449.8040604@wanadoo.fr> from "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-C=F4me_Charpentier?=" at Jan 11, 2007 09:55:37 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 11 Jan 2007 21:58:00 +0100 (CET) SI, je pense que c'est bien la question. > > > Bonjour, > > > > Est-ce que je peux avoir un conseil pour une fonte autre que la fonte standard > > pour des formules mathematiques. > > À ma connaissance et en libre accès, il n'y a pas un choix phénoménal : > 1. Computer Modern et ses variantes (Latin modern en particulier), je > suppose que c'était ce qui était appelé « fonte standard ». > 2. Times avec un \usepackage{mathptmx} > 3. Palatino avec un \usepackage{mathpazo} > 4. Utopia avec un \usepackage{fourier} > > Les ceusses qui veulent compléter mes oublis sont les bienvenus. > > Maintenant, ce n'était peut-être pas la question. Ici, j'ai > répertorié les solutions où l'on propose des fontes mathématiques basées > sur les fontes de texte. > > Jean-Côme Charpentier > > -- --- ============================================================================== Patrick DUPRE | | Department of Chemistry | | Phone: (614) 292-8406 Ohio State University | | Fax: (614) 292-1948 120 West 18th Avenue | | Columbus, OH 43210-1173 | | email: pdupre@chemistry.ohio-state.edu ============================================================================== From - Thu Jan 11 22:08:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp1-g19.free.fr (smtp1-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.27]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0BL87F3072480 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:08:12 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from TH?O (vig38-2-82-225-223-57.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.223.57]) by smtp1-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302A39BB6E for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:08:07 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:08:02 +0100 From: Thierry Bouche X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.80.06) Educational Organization: Nonsense Inc. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <691580864.20070111220802@ujf-grenoble.fr> To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] belle In-Reply-To: <45A6A449.8040604@wanadoo.fr> References: <200701112045.l0BKjhq0020642@chemistry.ohio-state.edu> <45A6A449.8040604@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:08:12 +0100 (CET) Le jeudi 11 janvier 2007 à 21:55:37, Jean-Côme écrivit : JCC> Maintenant, ce n'était peut-être pas la question. Ici, j'ai JCC> répertorié les solutions où l'on propose des fontes mathématiques basées JCC> sur les fontes de texte. et gratuites. Il y a d'autres possibilités si on sort quelques piécettes. Mais même avec cette contrainte, il y a au moins Concrete et Euler. Thierry From - Thu Jan 11 23:46:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr (smtp19.orange.fr [80.12.242.18]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0BMkVKm040072 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 23:46:36 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1913.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 82D886000092 for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 23:46:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from [86.201.117.201] (AToulouse-254-1-82-201.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.201.117.201]) by mwinf1913.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 30FE7600009C for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 23:46:31 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20070111224631200.30FE7600009C@mwinf1913.orange.fr Message-ID: <45A6BE46.7000509@wanadoo.fr> Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 23:46:30 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-C=F4me_Charpentier?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050927 Debian/1.7.8-1sarge3 X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] belle References: <200701112045.l0BKjhq0020642@chemistry.ohio-state.edu> <45A6A449.8040604@wanadoo.fr> <691580864.20070111220802@ujf-grenoble.fr> In-Reply-To: <691580864.20070111220802@ujf-grenoble.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 11 Jan 2007 23:46:36 +0100 (CET) Thierry Bouche a écrit : > Le jeudi 11 janvier 2007 à 21:55:37, Jean-Côme écrivit : > > JCC> Maintenant, ce n'était peut-être pas la question. Ici, j'ai > JCC> répertorié les solutions où l'on propose des fontes mathématiques basées > JCC> sur les fontes de texte. > > et gratuites. Il y a d'autres possibilités si on sort quelques > piécettes. Oui, c'était sous-entendu ! > Mais même avec cette contrainte, il y a au moins Concrete et Euler. Un point pour Thierry. Tiens ! Juste pour entamer un troll de typographes ! J'ai essayé de faire joujou avec les fontes concretes, je ne sais pas si c'est moi mais le résultat me semble au minimum bizarre. Jean-Côme Charpentier From - Fri Jan 12 04:13:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from chemistry.ohio-state.edu (chemistry.ohio-state.edu [128.146.235.235]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0C3DEcS094287 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 04:13:20 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from chemistry.ohio-state.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by chemistry.ohio-state.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l0C3DAvk016793 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:13:10 -0500 (EST) Received: (from pdupre@localhost) by chemistry.ohio-state.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id l0C3DAKe016792 for gut@ens.fr; Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:13:10 -0500 (EST) From: Patrick Dupre Message-Id: <200701120313.l0C3DAKe016792@chemistry.ohio-state.edu> Subject: texi To: gut@ens.fr (Gutenberg) Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:13:10 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 12 Jan 2007 04:13:20 +0100 (CET) Bonjour, Merci pour les infos sur les fontes. Autre question, comment est-ce que je peux compiler simplement (facilement) un fichier texi ? -- --- ============================================================================== Patrick DUPRE | | Department of Chemistry | | Phone: (614) 292-8406 Ohio State University | | Fax: (614) 292-1948 120 West 18th Avenue | | Columbus, OH 43210-1173 | | email: pdupre@chemistry.ohio-state.edu ============================================================================== From - Fri Jan 12 19:32:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr (smtp19.orange.fr [80.12.242.18]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0CIWURX079319 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 19:32:36 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1917.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DAFB91C00064 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 19:32:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.12] (ARennes-357-1-67-17.w90-12.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.12.86.17]) by mwinf1917.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id ACA711C00048 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 19:32:28 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20070112183228707.ACA711C00048@mwinf1917.orange.fr Message-ID: <45A7D43B.6040407@wanadoo.fr> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 19:32:27 +0100 From: Jean-Michel Le Bot User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: fancyhdr et report Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 12 Jan 2007 19:32:36 +0100 (CET) Bonsoir J'utilise le package fancyhdr avec la classe report. Mon problème est que pour les premières pages de chaque chapitre (celles où figure "chapitre 1", etc.). l'en-tête et le pied de page ne sont pas ceux que j'ai définis (ils sont bons partout ailleurs). Y a-t-il un moyen de paramétrer cela (avoir les en-têtes et pieds de page définis avec fancyhdr sur *toutes* les pages) ? -- /* _\|/_ (o o) +----oOO-{_}-OOo--------+ |Jean-Michel Le Bot | +----------------------*/ From - Fri Jan 12 21:12:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (smtp5-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.35]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0CKCOkr058116 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 21:12:29 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [81.56.205.98] (unknown [81.56.205.98]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81DC727C01 for ; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 21:12:24 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45A7EB86.1030808@free.fr> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 21:11:50 +0100 From: MAROT Jacques User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Opposition \\ et \par References: <458FDC81.4070600@gmail.com> <459ACC6C.5060808@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <459ACC6C.5060808@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 12 Jan 2007 21:12:29 +0100 (CET) Jean-Côme Charpentier a écrit : > Ben ? TeX est fou ? J'ai fait « \\ \vspace{1cm} » et cela me donne > n'importe quoi. > On peut également ne pas s'énerver et dire de mettre \par à la place > de \\ et d'ajouter un \setlength{\parindent}{0cm} en début de document > si le retrait d'alinéa n'est pas voulu... et me ferais-je incendier si je dis qu'il m'arrive d'utiliser : //[1cm] pour laisser la place à une réponse manuscrite sur mes poly. ;-) J.Marot From - Sat Jan 13 00:28:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp7.orange.fr (smtp7.orange.fr [193.252.22.24]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0CNSHih091091 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 00:28:17 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [81.250.103.103] (AToulouse-254-1-48-103.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.250.103.103]) by mwinf0701.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 565687000091 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 00:28:17 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20070112232817353.565687000091@mwinf0701.orange.fr Message-ID: <45A81990.10807@wanadoo.fr> Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 00:28:16 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-C=F4me_Charpentier?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050927 Debian/1.7.8-1sarge3 X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Opposition \\ et \par References: <458FDC81.4070600@gmail.com> <459ACC6C.5060808@wanadoo.fr> <45A7EB86.1030808@free.fr> In-Reply-To: <45A7EB86.1030808@free.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sat, 13 Jan 2007 00:28:17 +0100 (CET) MAROT Jacques a écrit : > Jean-Côme Charpentier a écrit : > >> Ben ? TeX est fou ? J'ai fait « \\ \vspace{1cm} » et cela me donne >> n'importe quoi. >> On peut également ne pas s'énerver et dire de mettre \par à la place >> de \\ et d'ajouter un \setlength{\parindent}{0cm} en début de document >> si le retrait d'alinéa n'est pas voulu... et > > me ferais-je incendier si je dis qu'il m'arrive d'utiliser : > //[1cm] pour laisser la place à une réponse manuscrite sur mes poly. ;-) Il faut voir où se situe l'emplacement réservé mais on peut penser à un \par\vspace{1cm} (ou \addvspace{1cm} selon les souhaits de l'auteur) en lieu et place de \\[1cm]. De toutes façons, je n'incendierai jamais pour cela, ni même pour n'importe quel péché en LaTeX, fusse-t-il portel. Jean-Côme Charpentier (hippie non violent) From - Sat Jan 13 14:06:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0DD6BAP044170 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 14:06:16 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 32so920640ugm for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 05:06:11 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=PM0U/5/dgfJW4mdjlvaaRN7eL05Vt2pF8FhQGFMQsPCuRfy6BeIwO7azP8ZLZkX5dKOL4bsfQ/MV8cJaL29ZTJgV5utIsQdn2w7GtFNqK6SSxWQmNhyt9TfNW5+yak82OPTAPpqxcVu7hJb6UrO2ruAHb8DQ6On5R47gzkA216E= Received: by 10.67.100.17 with SMTP id c17mr1425206ugm.1168693571643; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 05:06:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from DFCGXC1J ( [83.134.220.248]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id i39sm3732633ugd.2007.01.13.05.06.10; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 05:06:11 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000d01c73713$9688c300$f8dc8653@DFCGXC1J> From: "Cristian" To: References: <458FDC81.4070600@gmail.com> <459ACC6C.5060808@wanadoo.fr> <45A7EB86.1030808@free.fr> Subject: Help Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 14:06:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sat, 13 Jan 2007 14:06:17 +0100 (CET) Help From - Sat Jan 13 15:45:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.190]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0DEitSH003322 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 15:45:00 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p48so1401781nfa for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 06:44:55 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=YabC9FR6EzU8d8JG10f7juQXyMJUA0AhQQEQqrzVDpE5EAuho86Sa9/3Ojxt+HURoEPblMZluNbi5QvYEgDBYVF6UntBOnwKrQ623Z78Xc3dddFwAkl6/v9g/HEGAyq6NaJJIEbWb3MQdoUJY0vdcJrWPWtdooswBtc4ULEZpoM= Received: by 10.48.48.18 with SMTP id v18mr1626283nfv.1168699493082; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 06:44:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.3? ( [212.198.108.3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id n22sm13693252nfc.2007.01.13.06.44.51; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 06:44:51 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45A8F062.5070008@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 15:44:50 +0100 From: Alban User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Help References: <458FDC81.4070600@gmail.com> <459ACC6C.5060808@wanadoo.fr> <45A7EB86.1030808@free.fr> <000d01c73713$9688c300$f8dc8653@DFCGXC1J> In-Reply-To: <000d01c73713$9688c300$f8dc8653@DFCGXC1J> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sat, 13 Jan 2007 15:45:00 +0100 (CET) Cristian a écrit : > Help Ça arrive ;-) From - Sat Jan 13 17:46:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.170]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0DGklQG074615 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 17:46:52 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 32so943852ugm for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 08:46:47 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=eojHVLf7AjphfD6MnB67JhnrXNULRPTaycja0kQKPFVIuwtGrwJVvUBjOFDWMpgHgb/5PIAc7CJas3PCKsqVo9etoxocUfsSja1yLno1c0rxirFdQBSXYNr0jnt5IHzLTB02/RlzG+iaEN6ncvYSwNtRNde7XWjQxVBnYakRKjk= Received: by 10.67.26.7 with SMTP id d7mr2657047ugj.1168706806591; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 08:46:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from DFCGXC1J ( [83.134.203.25]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 72sm3243144ugb.2007.01.13.08.46.45; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 08:46:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <000501c73732$68f81610$19cb8653@DFCGXC1J> From: "Cristian" To: References: <458FDC81.4070600@gmail.com> <459ACC6C.5060808@wanadoo.fr> <45A7EB86.1030808@free.fr> <000d01c73713$9688c300$f8dc8653@DFCGXC1J> <45A8F062.5070008@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gut] Help Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 17:46:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sat, 13 Jan 2007 17:46:52 +0100 (CET) lol... comment on fait pour avoir les commandes de la liste ? C'est ça que je voulais faire en fait... Cristian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alban" To: Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 3:44 PM Subject: Re: [gut] Help > Cristian a écrit : >> Help > > Ça arrive ;-) > From - Sat Jan 13 19:38:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (smtp6-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.36]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0DIcOH5038476 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 19:38:29 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [192.168.0.1] (ax113-1-82-66-163-32.fbx.proxad.net [82.66.163.32]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E7543884 for ; Sat, 13 Jan 2007 19:38:24 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <000501c73732$68f81610$19cb8653@DFCGXC1J> References: <458FDC81.4070600@gmail.com> <459ACC6C.5060808@wanadoo.fr> <45A7EB86.1030808@free.fr> <000d01c73713$9688c300$f8dc8653@DFCGXC1J> <45A8F062.5070008@gmail.com> <000501c73732$68f81610$19cb8653@DFCGXC1J> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2C8A10A8-FADE-4764-A7FE-4D1928A68865@free.fr> From: Pierre Albarede Subject: Re: [gut] Help Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 19:36:01 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sat, 13 Jan 2007 19:38:29 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id l0DIcOH5038476 Le 13 janv. 07 à 17:46, Cristian a écrit : > lol... comment on fait pour avoir les commandes de la liste ? C'est > ça que je voulais faire en fait... envoyer un message à sympa@ens.fr avec help dans le corps voilà ce qu'on obtient Available commands are: HELp * This help file INFO * Information about a list LISts * Directory of lists managed on this node REView * Displays the subscribers to WHICH * Displays which lists you are subscribed to SUBscribe * To subscribe or to confirm a subscription to , is an optional information about subscriber. UNSubscribe * To quit . is an optional email address, usefull if different from your "From:" address. UNSubscribe * * To quit all lists. SET NOMAIL * To suspend the message reception for SET DIGEST * Message reception in compilation mode SET SUMMARY * Receiving the message index only SET NOTICE * Receiving message subject only SET MAIL * reception in normal mode SET CONCEAL * To become unlisted (hidden subscriber address) SET NOCONCEAL * Subscriber address visible via REView INDex * archive file list GET * To get of archive LAST * Used to received the last message from INVITE * Invite for subscribtion in CONFIRM * Confirmation for sending a message (depending on the list's configuration) QUIT * Indicates the end of the commands (to ignore a signature) From - Mon Jan 15 17:56:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.4 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ILLEGAL_CHARS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from net.univ-savoie.fr (net.univ-savoie.fr [193.48.120.75]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0FGu4fe041794 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:56:09 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from post.bourget.univ-savoie.fr (post.bourget.univ-savoie.fr [193.48.120.73]) by net.univ-savoie.fr (8.12.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id l0FGu1rO013914 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:56:01 +0100 Received: from sixtyfour.univ-savoie.fr ([192.168.135.135]) by post.bourget.univ-savoie.fr (8.12.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id l0FGtwKp004704 ; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:55:59 +0100 Message-Id: <200701151655.l0FGtwKp004704@post.bourget.univ-savoie.fr> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:56:17 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr, gut@ens.fr From: Lionel Flandin Subject: Acobat 8.0 à daubé ? In-Reply-To: <2C8A10A8-FADE-4764-A7FE-4D1928A68865@free.fr> References: <458FDC81.4070600@gmail.com> <459ACC6C.5060808@wanadoo.fr> <45A7EB86.1030808@free.fr> <000d01c73713$9688c300$f8dc8653@DFCGXC1J> <45A8F062.5070008@gmail.com> <000501c73732$68f81610$19cb8653@DFCGXC1J> <2C8A10A8-FADE-4764-A7FE-4D1928A68865@free.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.33 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 15 Jan 2007 17:56:10 +0100 (CET) Bonsoir, Depuis une récente mise à jour d'acrobat vers la version 8.0 (par ailleurs plus rapide que le 7.0.9) j'ai de terribles soucis de "plantage" du reader. Cela arrive si - on lit un fichier (i.e. F5 sur TeXnicCenter) puis on recompile le tex (F7) - ou si on lit un fichier (i.e. F5 sur TeXnicCenter) puis ferme le fichier pdf depuis le reader d'acrobat Une parade (assez rapidement pénible...) est d'ouvrir deux fois le PDF (avec F5, retour l"éditeur de source puis re F5) Quelqu'un connaît-il une parade plus glorieuse que de ré-installer le Acrobat Reader 7.0.9. (ce que j'ai fait...) ? Cordialement, Lionel Flandin From - Mon Jan 15 22:42:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from mailcluster.lagoon.nc (mailcluster2.lagoon.nc [202.22.158.57]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0FLfiC2030928 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2007 22:41:51 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [202.166.178.25] (helo=[10.1.1.2]) by mulder.lagoon.nc with esmtp (Serveur SMTP Lagoon) id 1H6ZaG-0002ye-5K for gut@ens.fr; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 08:41:41 +1100 Message-ID: <45ABF514.2070505@lagoon.nc> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 08:41:40 +1100 From: LE GOFF Jean-Yves User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; fr-FR; rv:1.8.0.7) Gecko/20060405 SeaMonkey/1.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Acobat 8.0 =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E0daub=E9_=3F?= References: <458FDC81.4070600@gmail.com> <459ACC6C.5060808@wanadoo.fr> <45A7EB86.1030808@free.fr> <000d01c73713$9688c300$f8dc8653@DFCGXC1J> <45A8F062.5070008@gmail.com> <000501c73732$68f81610$19cb8653@DFCGXC1J> <2C8A10A8-FADE-4764-A7FE-4D1928A68865@free.fr> <200701151655.l0FGtwKp004704@post.bourget.univ-savoie.fr> In-Reply-To: <200701151655.l0FGtwKp004704@post.bourget.univ-savoie.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.0.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020508060803030200060800" X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 15 Jan 2007 22:41:52 +0100 (CET) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020508060803030200060800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lionel Flandin a écrit : > Bonsoir, > > Depuis une récente mise à jour d'acrobat vers la version 8.0 (par > ailleurs plus rapide que le 7.0.9) j'ai de terribles soucis de > "plantage" du reader. > Cela arrive si > - on lit un fichier (i.e. F5 sur TeXnicCenter) puis on recompile le tex > (F7) > - ou si on lit un fichier (i.e. F5 sur TeXnicCenter) puis ferme le > fichier pdf depuis le reader d'acrobat > > Une parade (assez rapidement pénible...) est d'ouvrir deux fois le PDF > (avec F5, retour l"éditeur de source puis re F5) > > Quelqu'un connaît-il une parade plus glorieuse que de ré-installer le > Acrobat Reader 7.0.9. (ce que j'ai fait...) ? > > Cordialement, > > Lionel Flandin > > > > une solution ? utiliser kpdf : tout y est, le programme s'est vraiment amélioré ces derniers temps. reader devient pratiquement sans objet. cordialement, jy --------------020508060803030200060800 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="jeanyves.le-goff.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="jeanyves.le-goff.vcf" begin:vcard fn:Jean-Yves LE GOFF n:;Jean-Yves LE GOFF adr;quoted-printable;dom:BP 5439;;17 rue rambaud - portes d'argent;NOUM=C3=89A;;98 853 email;internet:jeanyves.le-goff@lagoon.nc tel;home:43 53 35 version:2.1 end:vcard --------------020508060803030200060800-- From - Tue Jan 16 07:59:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr (smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr [193.252.23.120] (may be forged)) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0G6xWFQ070599 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 07:59:32 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2352.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1E14C7000087 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 07:59:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (ALille-257-1-72-242.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.204.99.242]) by mwinf2352.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E528B7000085 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 07:59:31 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20070116065931938.E528B7000085@mwinf2352.orange.fr X-ME-User-Auth: dbitouze Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 08:00:35 +0100 From: Denis =?ISO-8859-1?B?Qml0b3V66Q==?= To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Acobat 8.0 =?ISO-8859-1?B?4GRhdWLp?= ? Message-ID: <20070116080035.4d890dfa@localhost> In-Reply-To: <45ABF514.2070505@lagoon.nc> References: <458FDC81.4070600@gmail.com> <459ACC6C.5060808@wanadoo.fr> <45A7EB86.1030808@free.fr> <000d01c73713$9688c300$f8dc8653@DFCGXC1J> <45A8F062.5070008@gmail.com> <000501c73732$68f81610$19cb8653@DFCGXC1J> <2C8A10A8-FADE-4764-A7FE-4D1928A68865@free.fr> <200701151655.l0FGtwKp004704@post.bourget.univ-savoie.fr> <45ABF514.2070505@lagoon.nc> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.7.0 (GTK+ 2.10.3; i586-mandriva-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 16 Jan 2007 07:59:32 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id l0G6xWFQ070599 Le Tue, 16 Jan 2007 08:41:40 +1100 LE GOFF Jean-Yves a écrit : > une solution ? utiliser kpdf Euh, le monsieur semble travailler sous Windows. -- Denis, qui est sous Linux et qui préfère xpdf à kpdf... From - Tue Jan 16 12:12:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from qb-out-0506.google.com (qb-out-0506.google.com [72.14.204.232]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0GBBkVI054184 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:11:52 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: by qb-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id f10so271878qba for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 03:11:46 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=UD1Wtq81eyDLR4CuWJXoQ43mrj/lHJp2j2W/K1fRGSCY4xk0KWlSOlvjyTZc7RpGciZDXzfoSKIxj6S+nc43/igq4w+Z9Eev2uc1i2NTSMrjHofxjBzq8BXq358ju9nElXyAsnkUInFsjalJFrwDc87vS4D7P4DcHiS9hNYvRR0= Received: by 10.49.8.1 with SMTP id l1mr5612525nfi.1168945905154; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 03:11:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.12? ( [90.12.155.181]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id n23sm25141698nfc.2007.01.16.03.11.44; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 03:11:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45AC7A5B.20306@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 08:10:19 +0100 From: Alban User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Acobat 8.0 =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E0daub=E9_=3F?= References: <458FDC81.4070600@gmail.com> <459ACC6C.5060808@wanadoo.fr> <45A7EB86.1030808@free.fr> <000d01c73713$9688c300$f8dc8653@DFCGXC1J> <45A8F062.5070008@gmail.com> <000501c73732$68f81610$19cb8653@DFCGXC1J> <2C8A10A8-FADE-4764-A7FE-4D1928A68865@free.fr> <200701151655.l0FGtwKp004704@post.bourget.univ-savoie.fr> <45ABF514.2070505@lagoon.nc> In-Reply-To: <45ABF514.2070505@lagoon.nc> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 16 Jan 2007 12:11:52 +0100 (CET) LE GOFF Jean-Yves a écrit : > une solution ? utiliser kpdf : tout y est, le programme s'est vraiment amélioré ces derniers temps. > reader devient pratiquement sans objet. > cordialement, > jy Excellente, idée ! Maaiiss... petit problème : > X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Y'a pas un lecteur libre sous Win$ ? From - Tue Jan 16 13:16:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from aicha.lcpc.fr (aicha.lcpc.fr [137.121.254.80]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0GCGEVg035843 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:16:19 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from lpposte.lcpc.fr (lpposte.lcpc.fr [137.121.22.19]) by aicha.lcpc.fr (Macrosoft Exchange) with ESMTP id 7880D5F770 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:16:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from lnlogic.lcpc.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lpposte.lcpc.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00391 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:16:14 +0100 (MET) Received: from [137.121.74.193] (pc74-193 [137.121.74.193]) by lnlogic.lcpc.fr (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id l0GCEf601727 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:14:41 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:16:13 +0100 From: Tristan Lorino X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.95.6) Home Reply-To: Tristan Lorino Organization: LCPC X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1135166676.20070116131613@lcpc.fr> To: "Alban on gut " Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re_:_[gut]_Acobat_8.0_=E0daub=E9_=3F?= In-Reply-To: <45AC7A5B.20306@gmail.com> References: <458FDC81.4070600@gmail.com> <459ACC6C.5060808@wanadoo.fr> <45A7EB86.1030808@free.fr> <000d01c73713$9688c300$f8dc8653@DFCGXC1J> <45A8F062.5070008@gmail.com> <000501c73732$68f81610$19cb8653@DFCGXC1J> <2C8A10A8-FADE-4764-A7FE-4D1928A68865@free.fr> <200701151655.l0FGtwKp004704@post.bourget.univ-savoie.fr> <45ABF514.2070505@lagoon.nc> <45AC7A5B.20306@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:16:19 +0100 (CET) Message de Alban, reçu le mardi 16 janvier 2007 à 08:10 : A> Y'a pas un lecteur libre sous Win$ ? Foxit Reader ? -- Laboratoire Central des Ponts et Chaussées [Division ESAR — Section AGR] Route de Bouaye BP 4129 44341 Bouguenais Cedex France Tél. 33 (0)2 40 84 56 18 From - Tue Jan 16 13:45:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr (smtp-msa-out01.orange.fr [193.252.23.120] (may be forged)) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0GCjQuS073558 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:45:27 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2353.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8C205700008E; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:45:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (ALille-257-1-72-242.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.204.99.242]) by mwinf2353.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 425FC7000087; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:45:26 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20070116124526271.425FC7000087@mwinf2353.orange.fr X-ME-User-Auth: dbitouze Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:46:29 +0100 From: Denis =?ISO-8859-1?B?Qml0b3V66Q==?= To: gut@ens.fr Cc: Tristan Lorino Subject: Re: Re : [gut] Acobat 8.0 =?ISO-8859-1?B?4GRhdWLp?= ? Message-ID: <20070116134629.48e8d11b@localhost> In-Reply-To: <1135166676.20070116131613@lcpc.fr> References: <458FDC81.4070600@gmail.com> <459ACC6C.5060808@wanadoo.fr> <45A7EB86.1030808@free.fr> <000d01c73713$9688c300$f8dc8653@DFCGXC1J> <45A8F062.5070008@gmail.com> <000501c73732$68f81610$19cb8653@DFCGXC1J> <2C8A10A8-FADE-4764-A7FE-4D1928A68865@free.fr> <200701151655.l0FGtwKp004704@post.bourget.univ-savoie.fr> <45ABF514.2070505@lagoon.nc> <45AC7A5B.20306@gmail.com> <1135166676.20070116131613@lcpc.fr> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.7.0 (GTK+ 2.10.3; i586-mandriva-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:45:27 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id l0GCjQuS073558 Le Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:16:13 +0100 Tristan Lorino a écrit : > Foxit Reader ? Vraiment pas au point ce truc : les images s'affichent mal, les liens de la table des matières sont présents mais vides dans l'onglet de gauche, etc. Ça ne vaut vraiment pas les logiciels équivalents sous Linux (xpdf, gpdf, kpdf, evince, etc.). -- Denis From - Tue Jan 16 13:53:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from aicha.lcpc.fr (aicha.lcpc.fr [137.121.254.80]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0GCrDwi082091 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:53:18 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from lpposte.lcpc.fr (lpposte.lcpc.fr [137.121.22.19]) by aicha.lcpc.fr (Macrosoft Exchange) with ESMTP id 9E8455F783 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:53:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from lnlogic.lcpc.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lpposte.lcpc.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA04465 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:53:13 +0100 (MET) Received: from [137.121.74.193] (pc74-193 [137.121.74.193]) by lnlogic.lcpc.fr (8.11.6+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id l0GCpe604412 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:51:40 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:53:12 +0100 From: Tristan Lorino X-Mailer: The Bat! (v3.95.6) Home Reply-To: Tristan Lorino Organization: LCPC X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1371710270.20070116135312@lcpc.fr> To: gut@ens.fr Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re_:_Re_:_[gut]_Acobat_8.0_=E0daub=E9_=3F?= In-Reply-To: <20070116134629.48e8d11b@localhost> References: <458FDC81.4070600@gmail.com> <459ACC6C.5060808@wanadoo.fr> <45A7EB86.1030808@free.fr> <000d01c73713$9688c300$f8dc8653@DFCGXC1J> <45A8F062.5070008@gmail.com> <000501c73732$68f81610$19cb8653@DFCGXC1J> <2C8A10A8-FADE-4764-A7FE-4D1928A68865@free.fr> <200701151655.l0FGtwKp004704@post.bourget.univ-savoie.fr> <45ABF514.2070505@lagoon.nc> <45AC7A5B.20306@gmail.com> <1135166676.20070116131613@lcpc.fr> <20070116134629.48e8d11b@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:53:19 +0100 (CET) Message de Denis Bitouzé, reçu le mardi 16 janvier 2007 à 13:46 : DB> Vraiment pas au point ce truc : les images s'affichent mal, les liens DB> de la table des matières sont présents mais vides dans l'onglet de DB> gauche, etc. Ça ne vaut vraiment pas les logiciels équivalents sous DB> Linux (xpdf, gpdf, kpdf, evince, etc.). GhostPDF ? http://ghostpdf.com/new.html -- Laboratoire Central des Ponts et Chaussées [Division ESAR — Section AGR] Route de Bouaye BP 4129 44341 Bouguenais Cedex France Tél. 33 (0)2 40 84 56 18 From - Tue Jan 16 19:57:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from net.univ-savoie.fr (net.univ-savoie.fr [193.48.120.75]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0GIvDEW048789 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:57:18 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from post.bourget.univ-savoie.fr (post.bourget.univ-savoie.fr [193.48.120.73]) by net.univ-savoie.fr (8.12.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id l0GIv9Cp029445 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:57:09 +0100 Received: from sixtyfour.univ-savoie.fr ([192.168.135.135]) by post.bourget.univ-savoie.fr (8.12.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id l0GIv6ZU026880 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:57:06 +0100 Message-Id: <200701161857.l0GIv6ZU026880@post.bourget.univ-savoie.fr> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:57:26 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr From: Lionel Flandin Subject: Re : Re : [gut] Acrobat 8.0 a daubé ? In-Reply-To: <1371710270.20070116135312@lcpc.fr> References: <458FDC81.4070600@gmail.com> <459ACC6C.5060808@wanadoo.fr> <45A7EB86.1030808@free.fr> <000d01c73713$9688c300$f8dc8653@DFCGXC1J> <45A8F062.5070008@gmail.com> <000501c73732$68f81610$19cb8653@DFCGXC1J> <2C8A10A8-FADE-4764-A7FE-4D1928A68865@free.fr> <200701151655.l0FGtwKp004704@post.bourget.univ-savoie.fr> <45ABF514.2070505@lagoon.nc> <45AC7A5B.20306@gmail.com> <1135166676.20070116131613@lcpc.fr> <20070116134629.48e8d11b@localhost> <1371710270.20070116135312@lcpc.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.33 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 16 Jan 2007 19:57:20 +0100 (CET) Bonsoir, J'ai reçu hier une réponse très pertinente qui mérite d'être connue, voir ci-dessous (cela ressemble probablement à ghostpdf). Au bilan la version 7.0.9 d'Acrobat reader est peut être la plus adaptée à mes besoins/habitudes... J'attendrai une version 8.0.1 compatible (ou de pdfopen). Merci à tous, Lionel >Bonsoir, > >En effet la version 8 n'est pas compatible avec pdfopen utilisé par >Miktex et texniccenter. La seule parade que j'ai trouvée est de >définir un nouveau profil dans texniccenter pour les compilations >amenant à un pdf et d'utiliser pour la visualisation ghostview. Le >plus facile est de recopier les paramètres pour les compilations en >postscript en modifiant l'extension en .pdf. De plus cette approche >permet de réouvrir automatiquement à la dernière page visualisée. Pour >cela il faut la toute rpemière fois compiler et visualiser puis >ensuite il suffit de compiler sans passer par l'étape visualisation de >Texniccenter. Il suffit de cliquer sur la fenêtre de ghostview pour >que l'affichage se mette à jour automatiquemlent. > >Cordialement @ 13:53 16/01/2007, >>>Tristan Lorino<<< Wrote ------------------------:wq! >Message de Denis Bitouzé, reçu le mardi 16 janvier 2007 à 13:46 : > >DB> Vraiment pas au point ce truc : les images s'affichent mal, les liens >DB> de la table des matières sont présents mais vides dans l'onglet de >DB> gauche, etc. Ça ne vaut vraiment pas les logiciels équivalents sous >DB> Linux (xpdf, gpdf, kpdf, evince, etc.). > >GhostPDF ? >http://ghostpdf.com/new.html > >-- >Laboratoire Central des Ponts et Chaussées >[Division ESAR — Section AGR] >Route de Bouaye BP 4129 >44341 Bouguenais Cedex >France >Tél. 33 (0)2 40 84 56 18 From - Wed Jan 17 14:44:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (smtp20.orange.fr [80.12.242.26]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0HDi1Xa006950 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:44:06 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2004.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 678841C00099 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:44:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from [86.219.187.154] (AMarseille-256-1-28-154.w86-219.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.219.187.154]) by mwinf2004.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 34D461C00094 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:44:01 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20070117134401216.34D461C00094@mwinf2004.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Message-Id: <1286B76B-BE80-4677-A1BB-A3B2F09CFCA8@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: gut@ens.fr From: "pir2.jv" Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Tabular_et_=E9quations?= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:43:45 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:44:06 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id l0HDi1Xa006950 Pourquoi le tableau suivant refuse absolument un résultat, que j'obtiens en remplaçant "$$" par "$" \begin{tabular}{l c l} $$u= e^{-\alpha}(t+\frac{1}{t})$$ &;& $$u'=- \alpha(1-\frac{1}{t^2})\times e^{-\alpha}(t+\frac{1}{t})$$ \\ $$v'=t^k$$ &;& $$v=\frac{1}{k+1}t^{k+1}$$ \end{tabular} Peut-être ne faut-il pas utiliser tabular dans cet usage ? Merci Jacques Vernin From - Wed Jan 17 14:55:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.11.96]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with SMTP id l0HDt1qw016922 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:55:02 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: (qmail 17506 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2007 13:55:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=qX2fZK0mfkBcoOt6c34lQdaIG034Nv4XxzXk7MAWp/HopMgJAbzOH1bgoZGeVEAZx4Jtxb5FYUS8WV/dPpmMTViuTqTE0MELmNmtGbJd2AiC1S/P577/Tdl+DLzQRQd6dTVHuMveY6rleoTUDhmSH6s6365OWwBGvB42vTmwgxU= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?130.104.226.164?) (f_stre@130.104.226.164 with plain) by smtp007.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jan 2007 13:55:01 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: RZ3su74VM1llvbcT7aGL4L5HvsdJd9Ji881gX.aM4G5_gBG_aJI6w52Ol7pmGYebkcsrXW6Fw1aK5Ptsq0fNae6s6ar7pk1sn8zueD7zmrrw2H2oxzCVoi5.l4xriFAu7Y_quPGPGM4- Message-ID: <45AE2AAE.3020709@yahoo.fr> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:54:54 +0100 From: Frans User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Tabular et =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E9quations?= References: <1286B76B-BE80-4677-A1BB-A3B2F09CFCA8@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <1286B76B-BE80-4677-A1BB-A3B2F09CFCA8@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:55:02 +0100 (CET) Bonjour, pir2.jv a écrit : > Pourquoi le tableau suivant refuse absolument un résultat, que j'obtiens > en remplaçant "$$" par "$" Je ne comprends pas l'utilité de mettre $$ qui est utilisé pour mettre les équations hors du texte? Si c'est pour avoir une disposition des équations comme si elles étaient hors texte, tu peux utiliser $\displaystyle "l'équation"$ > > \begin{tabular}{l c l} > $$u= e^{-\alpha}(t+\frac{1}{t})$$ &;& $$u'=- > \alpha(1-\frac{1}{t^2})\times e^{-\alpha}(t+\frac{1}{t})$$ \\ > $$v'=t^k$$ &;& $$v=\frac{1}{k+1}t^{k+1}$$ > \end{tabular} > > Peut-être ne faut-il pas utiliser tabular dans cet usage ? je pense que ça dépend plus de la manière dont tu veux utiliser ton environnement. > > Merci > Jacques Vernin Frans > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From - Wed Jan 17 14:59:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from reld01.insa-rennes.fr (reld01.insa-rennes.fr [193.52.94.2]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with SMTP id l0HDwuDe020673 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:59:01 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (zeus.insa-rennes.fr [127.0.0.1]) by reld01.insa-rennes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8FFA29ABCD for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:58:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from reld01.insa-rennes.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zeus.insa-rennes.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21953-12 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:58:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from barbu.insa-rennes.fr (barbu.insa-rennes.fr [10.1.1.143]) by reld01.insa-rennes.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id BFABE29ABC2 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:58:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (barbu [127.0.0.1]) by barbu.insa-rennes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EF291629C4 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:58:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from barbu.insa-rennes.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (barbu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14859-04 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:58:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.1.45.203] (pc-telecom78 [10.1.45.203]) by barbu.insa-rennes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E54711629C3 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:58:53 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45AE2CFA.4060905@IETR.insa-rennes.fr> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:04:42 +0100 From: Jean-Yves Baudais User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060313) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Tabular et =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E9quations?= References: <1286B76B-BE80-4677-A1BB-A3B2F09CFCA8@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <1286B76B-BE80-4677-A1BB-A3B2F09CFCA8@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at insa-rennes.fr X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at insa-rennes.fr X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:59:01 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id l0HDwuDe020673 Bonjour, pir2.jv a écrit : > Pourquoi le tableau suivant refuse absolument un résultat, que j'obtiens > en remplaçant "$$" par "$" > > \begin{tabular}{l c l} > $$u= e^{-\alpha}(t+\frac{1}{t})$$ &;& $$u'=- > \alpha(1-\frac{1}{t^2})\times e^{-\alpha}(t+\frac{1}{t})$$ \\ > $$v'=t^k$$ &;& $$v=\frac{1}{k+1}t^{k+1}$$ > \end{tabular} Parce que '$$' c'est pas bien ! il est préférable d'utiliser '\[' et ' \]' mais c'est du hors texte donc ça va pas marcher dans un tableau, on peut alors utiliser '\displaystyle' mais le mieux est sans doute d'utiliser les environnements AMSmath avec un truc du genre \begin{align*} u&= e^{-\alpha}(t+\frac{1}{t}) & &; & u'&=-\alpha(1-\frac{1}{t^2})\times e^{-\alpha}(t+\frac{1}{t}) \\ v'&=t^k & &; & v&=\frac{1}{k+1}t^{k+1} \end{align*} Cela dit, il y a peut être mieux que align. --Jyb From - Wed Jan 17 15:01:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp24.orange.fr (smtp24.orange.fr [193.252.22.28]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0HE1iA4023098 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:01:44 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2434.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8700A1C00094 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:01:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from [86.219.187.154] (AMarseille-256-1-28-154.w86-219.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.219.187.154]) by mwinf2434.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 423FB1C00086 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:01:44 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20070117140144271.423FB1C00086@mwinf2434.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <45AE2AAE.3020709@yahoo.fr> References: <1286B76B-BE80-4677-A1BB-A3B2F09CFCA8@wanadoo.fr> <45AE2AAE.3020709@yahoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <1760EF0F-6F0F-4072-92E9-654CAEECB0EF@wanadoo.fr> From: "pir2.jv" Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_Tabular_et_=E9quations?= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:01:28 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:01:44 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id l0HE1iA4023098 Le 17 janv. 07 à 14:54, Frans a écrit : > Bonjour, > > pir2.jv a écrit : >> Pourquoi le tableau suivant refuse absolument un résultat, que >> j'obtiens en remplaçant "$$" par "$" > Je ne comprends pas l'utilité de mettre $$ qui est utilisé pour > mettre les équations hors du texte? > Si c'est pour avoir une disposition des équations comme si elles > étaient hors texte, tu peux utiliser $\displaystyle "l'équation"$ >> \begin{tabular}{l c l} >> $$u= e^{-\alpha}(t+\frac{1}{t})$$ &;& $$u'=- >> \alpha(1-\frac{1}{t^2})\times e^{-\alpha}(t+\frac{1}{t})$$ \\ >> $$v'=t^k$$ &;& $$v=\frac{1}{k+1}t^{k+1}$$ >> \end{tabular} La réponse est peut-être erronée, mais ce que je voulais est simple. Si je mets une équation entre "$", j'obtiens une présentation qui se mets facilement sur une ligne. Par exemple les sigma ou les signes d'intégration sont réduits ... Avec la même équation entre "$$", la typographie est plus aérée. C'était ce que je cherchais, mais en mettant deux lignes et deux colonnes de "formules". J'imagine qu'il existe un moyen meilleur!. Merci Jacques Vernin From - Wed Jan 17 15:03:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from reld01.insa-rennes.fr (reld01.insa-rennes.fr [193.52.94.2]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with SMTP id l0HE2uiK024085 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:03:01 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (zeus.insa-rennes.fr [127.0.0.1]) by reld01.insa-rennes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE74829ABCD for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:02:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from reld01.insa-rennes.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zeus.insa-rennes.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 22111-07 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:02:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from barbu.insa-rennes.fr (barbu.insa-rennes.fr [10.1.1.143]) by reld01.insa-rennes.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id DE13129ABC2 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:02:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (barbu [127.0.0.1]) by barbu.insa-rennes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E369D1629C4 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:02:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from barbu.insa-rennes.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (barbu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 15335-06 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:02:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.1.45.203] (pc-telecom78 [10.1.45.203]) by barbu.insa-rennes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A7B71629C3 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:02:54 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45AE2DEA.60909@IETR.insa-rennes.fr> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:08:42 +0100 From: Jean-Yves Baudais User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060313) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Tabular et =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E9quations?= References: <1286B76B-BE80-4677-A1BB-A3B2F09CFCA8@wanadoo.fr> <45AE2AAE.3020709@yahoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <45AE2AAE.3020709@yahoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at insa-rennes.fr X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at insa-rennes.fr X-Greylist: Default is to whitelist mail, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:03:01 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id l0HE2uiK024085 Frans a écrit : > Je ne comprends pas l'utilité de mettre $$ qui est utilisé pour mettre > les équations hors du texte? Chut ! il faut pas le dire trop fort car '$$' c'est pas bien ! Voici ce que dit l'indispensable document à lire l2tabufr : "S'il vous plaît, ne le faites pas ! $$... $$ est une commande plain TEX. Cela modifiera les placements verticaux à l'intérieur des formules, les rendant incohérents. [...]". --Jyb From - Wed Jan 17 15:03:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp24.orange.fr (smtp24.orange.fr [193.252.22.28]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0HE3FQv024329 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:03:15 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2434.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2D61D1C00094 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:03:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from [86.219.187.154] (AMarseille-256-1-28-154.w86-219.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.219.187.154]) by mwinf2434.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DFF7F1C0008B for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:03:14 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20070117140314917.DFF7F1C0008B@mwinf2434.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <45AE2CFA.4060905@IETR.insa-rennes.fr> References: <1286B76B-BE80-4677-A1BB-A3B2F09CFCA8@wanadoo.fr> <45AE2CFA.4060905@IETR.insa-rennes.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <9F248982-F09D-4D1A-83D6-83B8B647A727@wanadoo.fr> From: "pir2.jv" Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_Tabular_et_=E9quations?= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:02:58 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:03:15 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id l0HE3FQv024329 D'accord; je vais essayer ainsi. Merci beaucoup. Le 17 janv. 07 à 15:04, Jean-Yves Baudais a écrit : > Bonjour, > > pir2.jv a écrit : >> Pourquoi le tableau suivant refuse absolument un résultat, que >> j'obtiens en remplaçant "$$" par "$" >> \begin{tabular}{l c l} >> $$u= e^{-\alpha}(t+\frac{1}{t})$$ &;& $$u'=- >> \alpha(1-\frac{1}{t^2})\times e^{-\alpha}(t+\frac{1}{t})$$ \\ >> $$v'=t^k$$ &;& $$v=\frac{1}{k+1}t^{k+1}$$ >> \end{tabular} > > Parce que '$$' c'est pas bien ! il est préférable d'utiliser '\[' > et ' \]' mais c'est du hors texte donc ça va pas marcher dans un > tableau, on peut alors utiliser '\displaystyle' mais le mieux est > sans doute d'utiliser les environnements AMSmath avec un truc du genre > > \begin{align*} > u&= e^{-\alpha}(t+\frac{1}{t}) & &; & u'&=-\alpha(1-\frac{1}{t^2}) > \times e^{-\alpha}(t+\frac{1}{t}) \\ > v'&=t^k & &; & v&=\frac{1}{k+1}t^{k+1} > \end{align*} > > Cela dit, il y a peut être mieux que align. > > --Jyb > > Jacques Vernin From - Wed Jan 17 15:25:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (smtp20.orange.fr [80.12.242.26]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0HEP0fb040890 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:25:05 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2027.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C86501C000E3 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:25:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (ABayonne-152-1-41-30.w83-193.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.193.95.30]) by mwinf2027.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A36491C000B3 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:25:00 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20070117142500669.A36491C000B3@mwinf2027.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <1286B76B-BE80-4677-A1BB-A3B2F09CFCA8@wanadoo.fr> References: <1286B76B-BE80-4677-A1BB-A3B2F09CFCA8@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <7CF647DF-09CD-4F71-9245-C8D2E8D8498E@wanadoo.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Denis_Verg=E8s?= Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_Tabular_et_=E9quations?= Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:24:58 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:25:06 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id l0HEP0fb040890 Bonjour, J'utilise la solution suivante : %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \[\begin{array}{l c l} u= \text{e}^{-\alpha}\left(t+\dfrac{1}{t}\right) &;& u'=- \alpha\left(1-\dfrac{1}{t^2}\right)\times \text{e}^{-\alpha}\left(t +\dfrac{1}{t}\right) \\ v'=t^k &;& v=\dfrac{1}{k+1}t^{k+1} \end{array}\] %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Bonne journée. Denis Le 17 janv. 07 à 14:43, pir2.jv a écrit : > Pourquoi le tableau suivant refuse absolument un résultat, que > j'obtiens en remplaçant "$$" par "$" > > \begin{tabular}{l c l} > $$u= e^{-\alpha}(t+\frac{1}{t})$$ &;& $$u'=- > \alpha(1-\frac{1}{t^2})\times e^{-\alpha}(t+\frac{1}{t})$$ \\ > $$v'=t^k$$ &;& $$v=\frac{1}{k+1}t^{k+1}$$ > \end{tabular} > > Peut-être ne faut-il pas utiliser tabular dans cet usage ? > > Merci > Jacques Vernin > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------- > Orange vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus > mail.Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. > > > > From - Wed Jan 17 16:15:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (smtp20.orange.fr [193.252.22.29]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0HFFShS082460 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:15:28 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2014.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7455F1C000BA for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:15:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from [81.250.102.199] (AToulouse-254-1-47-199.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.250.102.199]) by mwinf2014.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1EE631C000AE for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:15:28 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20070117151528126.1EE631C000AE@mwinf2014.orange.fr Message-ID: <45AE3D8F.5020206@wanadoo.fr> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:15:27 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-C=F4me_Charpentier?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050927 Debian/1.7.8-1sarge3 X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Tabular et =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E9quations?= References: <1286B76B-BE80-4677-A1BB-A3B2F09CFCA8@wanadoo.fr> <7CF647DF-09CD-4F71-9245-C8D2E8D8498E@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <7CF647DF-09CD-4F71-9245-C8D2E8D8498E@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:15:28 +0100 (CET) Denis Vergès a écrit : > Bonjour, > J'utilise la solution suivante : > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > \[\begin{array}{l c l} > u= \text{e}^{-\alpha}\left(t+\dfrac{1}{t}\right) &;& u'=- > \alpha\left(1-\dfrac{1}{t^2}\right)\times \text{e}^{-\alpha}\left(t > +\dfrac{1}{t}\right) \\ > v'=t^k &;& v=\dfrac{1}{k+1}t^{k+1} > \end{array}\] > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Oui, mais comme il a été signalé, l'utilisation des environnements d'amsmath est nettement préférable. Dans le cas présent, par exemple, les signes '=' ne sont pas alignés... c'est peut-être voulu cela dit ! Jean-Côme Charpentier From - Fri Jan 19 10:30:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp7-g19.free.fr (smtp7-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.64]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0J9U1Ni062105 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:30:06 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [192.168.0.3] (pla25-1-82-225-17-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.17.10]) by smtp7-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53129560D for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:30:01 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45B08F98.3050005@univ-fcomte.fr> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:30:00 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?P=E9tiard_Fran=E7ois?= Reply-To: francois.petiard@univ-fcomte.fr User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Probl=E8me_listfiles?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:30:06 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id l0J9U1Ni062105 Bonjour Je compile le fichier ci-dessous : %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \listfiles \documentclass[a4paper,12pt,leqno]{book} \usepackage[francais]{babel} \begin{document} bla bla \end{document} %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% et dans le fichier log (voir le fichier plus bas), on s'aperçoit que le fichier babel.def est chargé, mais qu'il n'apparaît pas dans la liste des fichiers donnée par \listfiles. Pourquoi ? Un bug ? F. Pétiard %%%% Fichier log (extraits) %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.30.6-2.2 (MiKTeX 2.5) (preloaded format=latex 2007.1.6) 19 JAN 2007 10:21 entering extended mode **test-listfiles.tex (test-listfiles.tex LaTeX2e <2005/12/01> Babel and hyphenation patterns for english, dumylang, nohyphenation, german, ngerman, french, loaded. ("C:\Program Files\MiKTeX 2.5\tex\latex\base\book.cls" Document Class: book 2005/09/16 v1.4f Standard LaTeX document class ("C:\Program Files\MiKTeX 2.5\tex\latex\base\leqno.clo" File: leqno.clo 1998/08/17 v1.1c Standard LaTeX option (left equation numbers) ) ("C:\Program Files\MiKTeX 2.5\tex\latex\base\bk12.clo" File: bk12.clo 2005/09/16 v1.4f Standard LaTeX file (size option) ) ..... ) (babel.sty Package: babel 2005/05/21 v3.8g The Babel package ************************************* * Local config file bblopts.cfg used * ("C:\Program Files\MiKTeX 2.5\tex\latex\00miktex\bblopts.cfg" File: bblopts.cfg 2006/07/31 v1.0 MiKTeX 'babel' configuration ) (frenchb.ldf Language: french 2005/02/06 v1.6g French support from the babel system (babel.def File: babel.def 2005/05/21 v3.8g Babel common definitions ..... ) ..... ************************************* * Local config file frenchb.cfg used * ("C:\Program Files\MiKTeX 2.5\tex\generic\babel\frenchb.cfg"))) ..... ("C:\Program Files\MiKTeX 2.5\tex\latex\lm\t1lmr.fd" File: t1lmr.fd 2006/04/24 v1.2 Font defs for Latin Modern ) ..... [1] (test-listfiles.aux) *File List* book.cls 2005/09/16 v1.4f Standard LaTeX document class leqno.clo 1998/08/17 v1.1c Standard LaTeX option (left equation numbers) bk12.clo 2005/09/16 v1.4f Standard LaTeX file (size option) babel.sty 2005/05/21 v3.8g The Babel package bblopts.cfg 2006/07/31 v1.0 MiKTeX 'babel' configuration frenchb.ldf frenchb.cfg t1lmr.fd 2006/04/24 v1.2 Font defs for Latin Modern *********** ) Here is how much of TeX's memory you used: ...... Output written on test-listfiles.dvi (1 page, 248 bytes). %%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Fin du fichier log %%%%%%%%%%%%%%% -- francois.petiard@univ-fcomte.fr From - Fri Jan 19 13:16:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0JCGYiV091559 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:16:39 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p48so437728nfa for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 04:16:34 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=oh64LNsMjYhFzZo4Ovsw/BoKJ+DRqJ29dAAKyjmmZA265u+7Kzc5bonE+APobzWVeyBXBglghnoVICXC1nQEGAz84dsq/su/ORmCBpBZmm5ANGLhSDV1ImOvWPQkidXfs7X6ubcEYGhXUccAMoOE0CI1E+rbhPrjQgkYHDfF/hQ= Received: by 10.49.26.18 with SMTP id d18mr2107259nfj.1169208994102; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 04:16:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.3? ( [212.198.108.3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id p72sm5394013nfc.2007.01.19.04.16.33; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 04:16:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45B0B6A0.3030808@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:16:32 +0100 From: Alban User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LaTeX Aide Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?L=E9gende_d=27une_image_non_flottante?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:16:39 +0100 (CET) Bonjour, je suis en train de rédiger un document dont certaines annexes ne sont constituées que d'une seule (grosse) image (pas de texte du tout). Afin d'être certain que mon image soit bien dans l'annexe considérée, je n'utilise pas d'environnement flottant : > \section{Annexe blabla} > \includegraphics{image} > > \section{Annexe blibli} > \includegraphics{dessin} Je n'utilise pas les environnements flottant pour le pas avoir : > A. Annexe blabla > B. Annexe blibli > [image] > [dessin] Comment insérer une légende à ces images ? S'il n'y avait que le texte, pas de problème, mais il y a aussi la numérotation... Une remarque : peut-être ne faut-il pas insérer de légende dans ce genre d'annexe... il est possible que je me fourvoie en voulant absolument en mettre une ! Merci pour votre aide toujours aussi préciseuse ! Alban From - Fri Jan 19 13:29:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.185]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0JCTSOT099996 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:29:34 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from mac.com (smtpin05-en2 [10.13.10.150]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout15/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id l0JCTREi007392 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 04:29:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (har64-1-82-243-177-94.fbx.proxad.net [82.243.177.94]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin05/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id l0JCTOJI000685 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 04:29:26 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) To: GUTenberg Message-Id: <13AF4003-53EF-4F63-86CF-5BAE43F3A0CB@mac.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--223484328 From: Yves Akakpo Subject: Conflit entre \copyright et xcolor dans longtable et dans tabularx Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:29:20 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:29:34 +0100 (CET) --Apple-Mail-2--223484328 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Bonjour =E0 tous, Je souhaite r=E9aliser un tableau avec alternance des couleurs. Je=20=20 perds l'alternance des couleurs d=E8s que j'introduis \copyright sur=20= =20 une ligne. La perte de l'alternance ne concerne que la ligne avec=20=20 \copyright. Merci pour votre aide. Yves --Apple-Mail-2--223484328 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: application/octet-stream; x-mac-type=54455854; x-unix-mode=0644; x-mac-creator=54655873; name=couleur-alternance.tex Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=couleur-alternance.tex %! program =3D pdflatex \documentclass[a4paper, 14pt, pdftex, twoside, normalheadings, headinclude, footexclude, DIV16, BCOR15mm ]%{article}% {scrartcl} \usepackage{mathpazo} \usepackage[scaled=3D.95]{helvet} \usepackage{courier} \linespread{1.05} \usepackage[french]{babel} \usepackage[applemac]{inputenc}=20 \usepackage{graphicx} \usepackage[dvips]{geometry} % indispensable pour acc\'eder aux r\'eglages= fins des dimensions de votre empagement : blanc de couture, blanc de t\^e= te, blanc de grand fond, blanc de pied, largeur du rectangle d'empagement= =3Djustification et hauteur du rectangle d'empagement. %%--------------- Tout pour les tableaux ------------------ \usepackage{multicol} %fusion des colonnes dans un tableaau \usepackage {tabularx} % pour faire des tableaux avec colonne a largeur fixe \usepackage {multirow} % fusion des lignes dans un tableau \usepackage{array} \usepackage{varwidth} \usepackage{booktabs} % J'aime bien booktabs pour certains tableaux \usepackage{longtable} % tableaux sur plusieurs pages=20 \usepackage[table]{xcolor} % utiliser de la couleur, en d\'efinir des nouvelles. Sans l'option table,= pas de couleur dans les tables % depuis le bouquin page page 151 \usepackage{ifthen} \usepackage{calc} \newcounter{firstline} \newcounter{numdisplay} \newcommand\numline{% \setcounter{numdisplay} {\number\rownum~\value{firstline}+1}% \ifthenelse{\value{numdisplay}>0} {\thenumdisplay\quad} {}% } %---------------- BEGIN DOCUMENT \begin{document} \setcounter{firstline}{3} \rowcolors{3}{gray}{} % une ligne sur trois est en gris \begin{tabularx}{\linewidth}{>{\slshape}Xr} \multicolumn{2}{c}{\Large{Salle IOA}}\\ \rowcolor{red} \multicolumn{1}{c}{\cellcolor{red}\color{black}{\large{\te= xtbf{ D\'esignation }}}}& {\large{\textbf{ Quantit\'e}}} \\ \multicolumn{2}{c}{\textbf{Mobilier}}\\ Blabla blabla & 1 unit=8E\\ Blabla blabla & 1 unit=8E\\ Blabla blabla & 1 unit=8E\\ Blabla blabla\copyright & 1 unit=8E\\ Blabla blabla\copyright & 1 unit=8E\\ Blabla blabla & 1 unit=8E\\ Blabla blabla & 1 unit=8E\\ \end{tabularx} \end{document} --Apple-Mail-2--223484328 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed --Apple-Mail-2--223484328-- From - Fri Jan 19 13:39:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.4 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr (smtp19.orange.fr [80.12.242.1]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0JCdcPF007143 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:39:43 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1929.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A826D1C000A7 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:39:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (ARennes-257-1-134-175.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.210.85.175]) by mwinf1929.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 82D501C000A0 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:39:38 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20070119123938535.82D501C000A0@mwinf1929.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <45B0B6A0.3030808@gmail.com> References: <45B0B6A0.3030808@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jacques_Andr=E9?= Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_L=E9gende_d'une_image_non_flottante?= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:41:47 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:39:43 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id l0JCdcPF007143 Le 19 janv. 07, à 13:16, Alban a écrit : > Comment insérer une légende à ces images ? > S'il n'y avait que le texte, pas de problème, mais il y a aussi la > numérotation... > Pas bien compliqué: il suffit d'utiliser un compteur que vous incrémentez à chaque occurrence ce qui vous donne aussi la référence à la "figure" : \newcounter{numerofig}\setcounter{numerofig}{0} \newcommand{\mafig}[2]{% \refstepcounter{numerofig}% \begin{center}Figure \thenumerofig -- #1\end{center}% \label{#2}}%fin mafig [image] \mafig{Première légende}{A} [image] \mafig{Seconde légende}{B} Les figure \ref{B} et \ref{A}\ldots -- Jacques ANDRÉ Jacques.AndreNN@orange.fr <= y remplacer NN par 35 (Ille et Vilaine) From - Fri Jan 19 13:52:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from amazone1.ujf-grenoble.fr (amazone1.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.254]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0JCqBcM016045 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:52:11 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr (tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.18.74]) by amazone1.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7/Configured by JE 21 07 2006) with ESMTP id l0JCqB5B020897 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:52:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E166198419 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:52:11 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Scanned on tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr Received: from tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SxU8Kuo3S8yb for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:52:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from tibre2.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre2.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.24.10]) by tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFB3C19841A for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:52:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from ifapp1.ujf-grenoble.fr (mozart.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.5]) by tibre2.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id l0JCqAl3008044 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:52:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from thierry.bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr) Received: from euclide.ujf-grenoble.fr ([::ffff:193.48.255.207]) by fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr with esmtp; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:52:10 +0100 id 0000FDF2.45B0BEFA.00006527 Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:51:49 +0100 From: Thierry Bouche Organization: Institut Fourier X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <102211507.20070119135149@ujf-grenoble.fr> To: gut@ens.fr Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_L=E9gende_d'une_image_non_flottante?= In-Reply-To: <45B0B6A0.3030808@gmail.com> References: <45B0B6A0.3030808@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:52:11 +0100 (CET) Bonjour, Le vendredi 19 janvier 2007, vers 13:16:32, Alban écrivit : A> Bonjour, A> je suis en train de rédiger un document dont certaines annexes ne sont A> constituées que d'une seule (grosse) image (pas de texte du tout). A> Afin d'être certain que mon image soit bien dans l'annexe considérée, je A> n'utilise pas d'environnement flottant : >> \section{Annexe blabla} >> \includegraphics{image} >> >> \section{Annexe blibli} >> \includegraphics{dessin} A> Je n'utilise pas les environnements flottant pour le pas avoir : >> A. Annexe blabla >> B. Annexe blibli >> [image] >> [dessin] A> Comment insérer une légende à ces images ? A> S'il n'y avait que le texte, pas de problème, mais il y a aussi la A> numérotation... euh, avez-vous essayé \section{Annexe blabla} \includegraphics{image} \clearpage \section{Annexe blibli} \includegraphics{dessin} From - Fri Jan 19 14:20:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.5 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS, SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.188]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0JDKPip034575 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 14:20:30 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p48so448445nfa for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 05:20:25 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=iqUcfagh+7jPL0jVFXSUyRvkA9yNpDhfEBV2g7oH25SYlWE8QbupoJ7/cd8kOl5nj/g5lR8HXXvMDd0o7JyWZTWWSzWaRRf37g69UT89ovRYQoDh/hvM9mZqjtGBQpDEvQbOBegcRFAXW57P3Db0q9rfTCihvzceromyDz6/7qE= Received: by 10.49.12.4 with SMTP id p4mr2123894nfi.1169212824902; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 05:20:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.3? ( [212.198.108.3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id q28sm5563300nfc.2007.01.19.05.20.23; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 05:20:24 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45B0C597.5090607@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 14:20:23 +0100 From: Alban User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?L=E9gende_d=27une_image_non_flo?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ttante?= References: <45B0B6A0.3030808@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 19 Jan 2007 14:20:30 +0100 (CET) Jacques André a écrit : > \newcounter{numerofig}\setcounter{numerofig}{0} > \newcommand{\mafig}[2]{% > \refstepcounter{numerofig}% > \begin{center}Figure \thenumerofig -- #1\end{center}% > \label{#2}}%fin mafig > [image] > \mafig{Première légende}{A} > > [image] > \mafig{Seconde légende}{B} > > Les figure \ref{B} et \ref{A}\ldots L'idée de ce compteur est intéressante. Je ne peux pas en créer un nouveau (puisque j'ai déjà des figures numérotées automatiquement), mais je vais essayer d'utiliser celui qui est déjà en place. Si j'ai bien compris, seule cette partie du code est utile dans ce que je veux faire : > \newcommand{\mafig}[2]{% > \refstepcounter{numerofig}% > \begin{center}Figure \thenumerofig -- #1\end{center}% > \label{#2}}%fin mafig Et dans ce code, je remplace "numerofig" par le nom du compteur utilisé par défaut. En tout cas, merci pour votre aide ! Alban From - Fri Jan 19 14:22:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.5 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS, SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.191]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0JDMNVi035873 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 14:22:28 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id p48so448757nfa for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 05:22:23 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=VfxXH2SVKv5aBd9bTAKU/xhUcwB/7/lotr+PpqR3zsw6aKtjVkm8zCEjwvSMtoOXT0eFukjTz48S1fnoasprUlFd6Q5uWToKuE3qbfpTZfZrk3+DdwU6QoXBfe17ZeGvUOX2dCEGR6nrkKirKhg+j+kiDWKSeL93YGE3+ogD2nk= Received: by 10.49.12.4 with SMTP id p4mr2125417nfi.1169212943149; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 05:22:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.2.3? ( [212.198.108.3]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id d2sm5552119nfe.2007.01.19.05.22.18; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 05:22:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <45B0C609.7030801@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 14:22:17 +0100 From: Alban User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (X11/20070103) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?L=E9gende_d=27une_image_non_flo?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ttante?= References: <45B0B6A0.3030808@gmail.com> <102211507.20070119135149@ujf-grenoble.fr> In-Reply-To: <102211507.20070119135149@ujf-grenoble.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 19 Jan 2007 14:22:28 +0100 (CET) Thierry Bouche a écrit : > euh, avez-vous essayé > > \section{Annexe blabla} > \includegraphics{image} > \clearpage > \section{Annexe blibli} > \includegraphics{dessin} Euh... sur ce coup, non, j'avoue... Jusque là, j'avais été plutôt dubitatif quant au comportement de \clearpage, mais vu la simplicité de ce que je vais lui demander, ça devrait fonctionner, c'est vrai. Je vais essayer, et si ça ne va pas, j'utiliserai la méthode de Jacques qui devrait marcher (même si elle est un chouïa plus difficile à mettre en place). From - Fri Jan 19 16:05:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.4 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr (smtp19.orange.fr [80.12.242.17]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0JF5P3e004524 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:05:30 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1912.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3800F1C000AE for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:05:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (ARennes-257-1-134-175.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.210.85.175]) by mwinf1912.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 171F01C000A1 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:05:25 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20070119150525947.171F01C000A1@mwinf1912.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <45B0C597.5090607@gmail.com> References: <45B0B6A0.3030808@gmail.com> <45B0C597.5090607@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: <2e496107e560b6bcc6d175795ab8363a@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jacques_Andr=E9?= Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_L=E9gende_d'une_image_non_flottante?= Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:07:33 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 19 Jan 2007 16:05:30 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id l0JF5P3e004524 Le 19 janv. 07, à 14:20, Alban a écrit : > L'idée de ce compteur est intéressante. Je ne peux pas en créer un > nouveau (puisque j'ai déjà des figures numérotées automatiquement), Alors iol suffit d'utiliser thefigure lui même. Version légèrement différente sur l'utilisation du label: \newcommand{\malegende}[1]{% \refstepcounter{figure}% \begin{center}Figure \thefigure -- #1\end{center}}% \begin{figure} \caption{toto} \end{figure} \begin{figure} \caption{tata} \end{figure} [image] \malegende{Première légende}\label{A} [image] \malegende{Seconde légende}\label{B} Les figure \ref{B} et \ref{A}\ldots Mais attention, l en faut pas mélanger les figure flottante et les vôtres (il suffit de faire des clearpage alors) sous peine ded mélange de valeurs du compteur selon l'emplacement. Ce serait le cas dans cet exemple si on insérait, entre le premier appel de \malegende et le second [image] qq chose comme \begin{figure} \caption{tutu} \end{figure} -- Jacques ANDRÉ Jacques.AndreNN@orange.fr <= y remplacer NN par 35 (Ille et Vilaine) From - Fri Jan 19 18:12:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp3-g19.free.fr (smtp3-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.29]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0JHBsnD090302 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 18:11:59 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [192.168.0.3] (pla25-1-82-225-17-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.17.10]) by smtp3-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9E84A51C for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 18:11:54 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45B0FBD8.7070105@univ-fcomte.fr> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 18:11:52 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?P=E9tiard_Fran=E7ois?= Reply-To: francois.petiard@univ-fcomte.fr User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Conflit entre \copyright et xcolor dans longtable et dans tabularx References: <13AF4003-53EF-4F63-86CF-5BAE43F3A0CB@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <13AF4003-53EF-4F63-86CF-5BAE43F3A0CB@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 19 Jan 2007 18:11:59 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id l0JHBsnD090302 Yves Akakpo a écrit le 19/01/2007 13:29 : > Bonjour à tous, > > Je souhaite réaliser un tableau avec alternance des couleurs. Je perds > l'alternance des couleurs dès que j'introduis \copyright sur une ligne. > La perte de l'alternance ne concerne que la ligne avec \copyright. > > Merci pour votre aide. > > Yves > > Il semble que \copyright change la valeur de \rownum (elle est augmentée de 3) car, dans la décomposition de \copyright, il y a un appel à \ialign qui, lui-même, fait appel à \everycr et \everycr incrémente \rownum. La seule solution que j'ai trouvée (pas très élégante, mais elle a l'air de fonctionner), c'est de remplacer \copyright par : \global\advance\rownum by-1\copyright\global\advance\rownum by-2 F. Pétiard PS : la commande \rowcolors{3}{gray}{} ne veut pas dire qu'une ligne sur 3 est en gris (comme vous l'indiquez dans votre document) mais bien qu'une ligne sur 2 est en gris à partir de la troisième ligne... ce qui, dans un tabularx, n'a pas beaucoup de sens puisqu'il y a plusieurs passages du tableau (et \rownum s'incrémente à chaque fois) -- francois.petiard@univ-fcomte.fr From - Fri Jan 19 19:22:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp7.tech.numericable.fr (smtp7.tech.numericable.fr [82.216.111.43]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0JIMK3Y049737 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:22:25 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [10.0.1.3] (abo-176-218-68.trs.modulonet.fr [85.68.218.176]) by smtp7.tech.numericable.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9422A163841 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:22:20 +0100 (CET) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <13AF4003-53EF-4F63-86CF-5BAE43F3A0CB@mac.com> References: <13AF4003-53EF-4F63-86CF-5BAE43F3A0CB@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0CDFD6DA-574A-4293-A94C-B68E64E9073C@numericable.fr> From: Michel Bovani Subject: Re: [gut] Conflit entre \copyright et xcolor dans longtable et dans tabularx Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:22:18 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:22:25 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id l0JIMK3Y049737 Le 19 janv. 2007 à 13:29, Yves Akakpo a écrit : > Bonjour à tous, > > Je souhaite réaliser un tableau avec alternance des couleurs. Je > perds l'alternance des couleurs dès que j'introduis \copyright > sur une ligne. La perte de l'alternance ne concerne que la ligne > avec \copyright. ajouter un \usepackage{textcomp} du coup il faudra peut-être un \textup{\copyright} (à vous de voir) et même \textup{\textcopyright}, tant qu'à faire. -- Michel Bovani From - Tue Jan 23 11:01:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp009.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp009.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.11.63]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with SMTP id l0N9Ys6d091692 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:34:54 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: (qmail 57552 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2007 09:34:54 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type; b=4ElwkQp+XUgZ9at0mlPYnsIO3pLppY+sABZhSrcmYAoKibQaitfJAqSIGJzvgHIGsaZMNIgTcLdWhnNPbC0oETxJ/SOHgPtHNLFMvDBkxlNdqRKFJilEyfkkYO6+JecJQqc9dp0dSkUHiR4HdJbsQHAUdOYGSkCKkdZsjaK7Oow= ; Received: from unknown (HELO ?130.104.226.164?) (f_stre@130.104.226.164 with plain) by smtp009.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Jan 2007 09:34:53 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: RaWYs6IVM1mThtSwGwGeQ2saTmMZDpnjiwvwvsH5Lp1T5lK_ArloMdtLsHukXYfvOgY1BTAYTLbNxZUkrK2I7TSohirRw6e6VgJ1yBV1hFdEJgn7h3J1VurXP0sZ2afRtz.XmLC_qmJX Message-ID: <45B5D6B5.6000700@yahoo.fr> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:34:45 +0100 From: Frans User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: liste LaTeX Subject: transparents "papiers" Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------020706020303090906020101" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:34:54 +0100 (CET) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020706020303090906020101 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bonjour, j'ai réalisé des transparents avec la classe powersem et imfslide. mes transparents sont parfaits mais lorsque je veux compiler avec latex au lieu de pdflatex pour avoir des transparents imprimables, j'ai un problème avec les bords. J'ai une bande blanche de 2cm au dessus et à gauche. Mon transparent se retrouve donc décalé vers la droite et vers le bas sur la feuille (de laquelle il dépasse donc en bas et à droite). De plus, au lieu de sortir un fichier .dvi, la commande latex fichier.tex me sort un fichier .pdf. Ceci arrive aussi bien sous win avec MiKTeX que sous Fedora avec teTeX. J'ai joint un EMC mon log du fichier complet au mail et ce sont surtout les lignes suivantes qui m'interpellent même si je n'en comprends pas toute la signification. Package typearea Warning: Bad DIV-value! (typearea) You should e.g. decrease DIV, increase fontsize (typearea) or change papersize. 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Mail et son interface rivolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From - Sun Jan 28 20:44:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from mailironport.loria.fr (mailironport.loria.fr [152.81.144.100]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0SJi7gM062424 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 20:44:08 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from webloria.loria.fr ([152.81.144.22]) by mailironport.loria.fr with ESMTP; 28 Jan 2007 20:44:07 +0100 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.13,248,1167606000"; d="scan'208"; a="8162210:sNHT21125615" Received: from frege.loria.fr (frege.loria.fr [152.81.8.90]) by www.loria.fr (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 20:44:07 +0100 Message-ID: <1170013447.45bcfd078cd80@www.loria.fr> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 20:44:07 +0100 From: Denis.Roegel@loria.fr To: gut@ens.fr Cc: roegel@loria.fr Subject: identification d'un symbole MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.4 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sun, 28 Jan 2007 20:44:08 +0100 (CET) Bonjour, je cherche à utiliser en LaTeX le symbole qui figure à la fin de la troisième ligne dans http://www.loria.fr/~roegel/tmp/lettre.jpg Ce symbole existe-t-il dans une police ? Laquelle ? Et qu'est-ce ? Un \beta ? Un \delta ? Un C ? Merci Denis Roegel From - Sun Jan 28 20:57:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from clipper.ens.fr (clipper-gw.ens.fr [129.199.1.22]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0SJvlXc068757 ; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 20:57:47 +0100 (CET) Received: from bireme.ens.fr (root@bireme [129.199.129.2]) by clipper.ens.fr (8.13.1/jb-1.1) id l0SJvlLt014981 ; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 20:57:47 +0100 (MET) Received: from (reutenau@localhost) by bireme.ens.fr (8.13.6/jb-1.1) Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 20:57:47 +0100 From: Arthur Reutenauer To: gut@ens.fr Cc: roegel@loria.fr Subject: Re: [gut] identification d'un symbole Message-ID: <20070128195747.GA15769@clipper.ens.fr> Reply-To: gut@ens.fr References: <1170013447.45bcfd078cd80@www.loria.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1170013447.45bcfd078cd80@www.loria.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sun, 28 Jan 2007 20:57:48 +0100 (CET) > Ce symbole existe-t-il dans une police ? Laquelle ? C'est un beta, utilisé dans certains contextes par la tradition typographique française (je crois que c'est spécifique à la France, mais je ne me souviens plus des détails). Il existe une commande \varbeta mais je ne saurais pas dire quelle(s) police(s) ni quels packages il faut charger. From - Sun Jan 28 21:03:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from mailironport.loria.fr (mailironport.loria.fr [152.81.144.100]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0SK3BN5071484 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:03:11 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from webloria.loria.fr ([152.81.144.22]) by mailironport.loria.fr with ESMTP; 28 Jan 2007 21:03:10 +0100 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.13,248,1167606000"; d="scan'208"; a="8162640:sNHT16937816" Received: from frege.loria.fr (frege.loria.fr [152.81.8.90]) by www.loria.fr (IMP) with HTTP for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:03:10 +0100 Message-ID: <1170014590.45bd017e1b079@www.loria.fr> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:03:10 +0100 From: Denis.Roegel@loria.fr To: gut@ens.fr Cc: roegel@loria.fr Subject: Re: [gut] identification d'un symbole References: <1170013447.45bcfd078cd80@www.loria.fr> <20070128195747.GA15769@clipper.ens.fr> In-Reply-To: <20070128195747.GA15769@clipper.ens.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.4 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:03:11 +0100 (CET) Selon Arthur Reutenauer : > > Ce symbole existe-t-il dans une police ? Laquelle ? > > C'est un beta, utilisé dans certains contextes par la tradition > typographique française (je crois que c'est spécifique à la France, mais > je ne me souviens plus des détails). Il existe une commande \varbeta mais > je ne saurais pas dire quelle(s) police(s) ni quels packages il faut > charger. Apparemment c'est dans arevmath. Merci du conseil. Denis Roegel From - Sun Jan 28 21:03:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (smtp20.orange.fr [193.252.22.29]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0SK3OVL071615 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:03:24 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2018.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C11051C00096 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:03:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.0.0.1] (ALyon-156-1-87-162.w86-216.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.216.182.162]) by mwinf2018.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8E6FA1C000A1 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:03:24 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20070128200324583.8E6FA1C000A1@mwinf2018.orange.fr Message-ID: <45BD0197.5090202@wanadoo.fr> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:03:35 +0100 From: michel ROME User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; fr; rv:1.8.0.9) Gecko/20061207 Thunderbird/1.5.0.9 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] identification d'un symbole References: <1170013447.45bcfd078cd80@www.loria.fr> In-Reply-To: <1170013447.45bcfd078cd80@www.loria.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:03:24 +0100 (CET) Denis.Roegel@loria.fr a écrit : > Bonjour, > > je cherche à utiliser en LaTeX le symbole qui figure à > la fin de la troisième ligne dans > > http://www.loria.fr/~roegel/tmp/lettre.jpg > > Ce symbole existe-t-il dans une police ? Laquelle ? > Et qu'est-ce ? Un \beta ? Un \delta ? Un C ? > > Merci > > Denis Roegel > > D'après de petit Larousse illustré il s'agit d'un béta. A+ From - Sun Jan 28 21:11:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr (smtp19.orange.fr [80.12.242.1]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0SKAuXt075166 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:11:01 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1904.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A07E21C000AC for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:10:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from [86.207.189.45] (AToulouse-254-1-90-45.w86-207.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.207.189.45]) by mwinf1904.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 62F831C00094 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:10:56 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20070128201056405.62F831C00094@mwinf1904.orange.fr Message-ID: <45BD0354.4090009@wanadoo.fr> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:11:00 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-C=F4me_Charpentier?= User-Agent: IceDove 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] identification d'un symbole References: <1170013447.45bcfd078cd80@www.loria.fr> <45BD0197.5090202@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <45BD0197.5090202@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:11:02 +0100 (CET) michel ROME a écrit : > Denis.Roegel@loria.fr a écrit : >> Bonjour, >> >> je cherche à utiliser en LaTeX le symbole qui figure à >> la fin de la troisième ligne dans >> >> http://www.loria.fr/~roegel/tmp/lettre.jpg >> >> Ce symbole existe-t-il dans une police ? Laquelle ? >> Et qu'est-ce ? Un \beta ? Un \delta ? Un C ? >> >> Merci >> >> Denis Roegel >> > D'après de petit Larousse illustré il s'agit d'un béta. Pour être tout à fait précis, c'est la lettre béta utilisée en milieu ou fin de mot (lorsqu'on écrit en grec ancien en tous cas, je suis un ignare complet du grec moderne). L'« autre » béta est celui utilisé en début de mot. C'est rigolo de l'utiliser en math. Je ne l'ai pas vu très souvent... je me demande même si je l'ai vu une seule fois (jusqu'à aujourd'hui). Bien entendu, il n'y a aucune raison sérieuse de s'opposer à son utilisation. Après tout, cela fait un symbole de plus et c'est tant mieux par ses temps de pénuries. Jean-Côme Charpentier From - Sun Jan 28 21:19:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from clipper.ens.fr (clipper-gw.ens.fr [129.199.1.22]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0SKJ4IV078875 ; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:19:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from bireme.ens.fr (root@bireme [129.199.129.2]) by clipper.ens.fr (8.13.1/jb-1.1) id l0SKJ3NQ017466 ; Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:19:03 +0100 (MET) Received: from (reutenau@localhost) by bireme.ens.fr (8.13.6/jb-1.1) Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:19:03 +0100 From: Arthur Reutenauer To: gut@ens.fr Cc: roegel@loria.fr Subject: Re: [gut] identification d'un symbole Message-ID: <20070128201903.GB15769@clipper.ens.fr> Reply-To: gut@ens.fr References: <1170013447.45bcfd078cd80@www.loria.fr> <20070128195747.GA15769@clipper.ens.fr> <1170014590.45bd017e1b079@www.loria.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1170014590.45bd017e1b079@www.loria.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sun, 28 Jan 2007 21:19:04 +0100 (CET) > Apparemment c'est dans arevmath. Merci du conseil. Une recherche sur le CTAN indique aussi les polices Minion Pro qui sont livrées avec Acrobat Reader (cf. fonts/minionpro/MinionPro.pdf sur un miroir du CTAN, page 6). From - Mon Jan 29 15:17:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from relay-bv.club-internet.fr (relay-bv.club-internet.fr [194.158.96.102]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0TEGvSq012811 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:17:02 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from magellan (di275-1-87-91-253-47.dsl.club-internet.fr [87.91.253.47]) by relay-bv.club-internet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id F34F925618 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:16:56 +0100 (CET) Received: by magellan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2E93EA56A; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:18:02 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:18:02 +0100 From: Philippe Delavalade To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Interlinge dans un environnement amsmath Message-ID: <20070129141802.GA4947@club-internet.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 29 Jan 2007 15:17:02 +0100 (CET) Bonjour. Je viens de trouver dans le fichier amsldoc.tex l'information suivante : You can use the \cn{\\}|[|\|]| command to get extra vertical space between lines in all the \pkg{amsmath} displayed equation environments, as is usual in \latex/. amsldoc.tex n'en dit pas plus et je n'ai rien trouvé dans ma très maigre documentation (en gros la faq). Ordinairement j'incluais une commande du genre \rule[-x/2 mm]{0mm}{xmm} pour augmenter l'interligne mais apparemment c'est prévu par latex. Quelqu'un pourrait-il m'en dire plus ou m'indiquer où trouver une info plus explicite ? Merci d'avance Philippe Delavalade From - Mon Jan 29 17:48:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.171]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0TGmiW3051850 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:48:49 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from mac.com (smtpin06-en2 [10.13.10.151]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout01/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id l0TGmh7T019854 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 08:48:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (anancy-256-1-23-88.w90-13.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.13.246.88]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin06/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id l0TGmb5x016292 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 08:48:39 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20070129141802.GA4947@club-internet.fr> References: <20070129141802.GA4947@club-internet.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: From: Frank STENGEL Subject: Re: [gut] Interlinge dans un environnement amsmath Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:48:46 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:48:50 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id l0TGmiW3051850 Le 29 janv. 07 à 15:18, Philippe Delavalade a écrit : > Bonjour. > > Je viens de trouver dans le fichier amsldoc.tex l'information > suivante : > > You can use the \cn{\\}|[|\|]| command to get extra > vertical > space between lines in all the \pkg{amsmath} displayed equation > environments, as is usual in \latex/. > > amsldoc.tex n'en dit pas plus et je n'ai rien trouvé dans ma très > maigre > documentation (en gros la faq). > > Ordinairement j'incluais une commande du genre > \rule[-x/2 mm]{0mm}{xmm} > pour augmenter l'interligne mais apparemment c'est prévu par latex. > > Quelqu'un pourrait-il m'en dire plus ou m'indiquer où trouver une > info plus > explicite ? Un exemple (forcément moche) : \begin{align} A&=BB\\[5ex] CC&=DD \end{align} à comparer avec : \begin{align} A&=BB\\ CC&=DD \end{align} -- Frank STENGEL (fstengelmac.com) From - Mon Jan 29 18:12:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from relay-em.club-internet.fr (relay-em.club-internet.fr [194.158.104.223]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0THCAFG076825 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:12:15 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from magellan (di275-1-87-91-253-47.dsl.club-internet.fr [87.91.253.47]) by relay-em.club-internet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C87D42561E for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:12:10 +0100 (CET) Received: by magellan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 69C81A56A; Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:13:16 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:13:16 +0100 From: Philippe Delavalade To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Interlinge dans un environnement amsmath Message-ID: <20070129171316.GB4649@club-internet.fr> References: <20070129141802.GA4947@club-internet.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:12:18 +0100 (CET) Merci, C'est très clair ainsi. Philippe Delavalade Le lundi 29 janvier à 17:48, Frank STENGEL a écrit : > > Le 29 janv. 07 à 15:18, Philippe Delavalade a écrit : > > >Bonjour. > > > >Je viens de trouver dans le fichier amsldoc.tex l'information > >suivante : > > > >You can use the \cn{\\}|[|\|]| command to get extra > >vertical > >space between lines in all the \pkg{amsmath} displayed equation > >environments, as is usual in \latex/. > > > >amsldoc.tex n'en dit pas plus et je n'ai rien trouvé dans ma très > >maigre > >documentation (en gros la faq). > > > >Ordinairement j'incluais une commande du genre > >\rule[-x/2 mm]{0mm}{xmm} > >pour augmenter l'interligne mais apparemment c'est prévu par latex. > > > >Quelqu'un pourrait-il m'en dire plus ou m'indiquer où trouver une > >info plus > >explicite ? > > Un exemple (forcément moche) : > > \begin{align} > A&=BB\\[5ex] > CC&=DD > \end{align} > > à comparer avec : > > \begin{align} > A&=BB\\ > CC&=DD > \end{align} > > > -- > Frank STENGEL (fstengelmac.com) > > > > From - Tue Jan 30 10:24:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from relay-em.club-internet.fr (relay-em.club-internet.fr [194.158.104.223]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0U9NqBa050227 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 10:23:57 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from rbastian (c01v-212-194-173-73.n.club-internet.fr [212.194.173.73]) by relay-em.club-internet.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 1177B25605 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 10:23:51 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" From: =?iso-8859-15?q?Ren=E9=20Bastian?= Organization: Ecchymoses To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Helvetica, Latex, Tex Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 10:25:35 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <07013010253500.00752@rbastian> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 30 Jan 2007 10:23:57 +0100 (CET) Bonjour, Latex : le texte comprend la ligne \newcommand{\helb}[1]{\fontsize{6mm}{12mm}{\usefont{T1}{phvb}{n}{n}#1}} remplace Helvetica-Bold par une autre fonte après avoir émis un "Latex Font Warning" et le résultat est loin d'être bold. Tex: le texte comprend la ligne \font\helb=Helvetica-Bold at 22pt et le résultat est correct - le fichier .ps utilise bien Helvetica-Bold. Quelle est l'erreur ou l'omission dans le texte Latex que j'ai écrit ? avec mes remerciements -- René Bastian http://www.musiques-rb.org http://www.pythoneon.musiques-rb.org From - Tue Jan 30 10:45:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from reserv5.univ-lille1.fr (reserv5.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.19]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0U9jgTr064221 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 10:45:47 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from univ-lille1.fr (melba2.univ-lille1.fr [134.206.1.47]) by reserv5.univ-lille1.fr (8.13.7/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id l0U9jQnY024674 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 10:45:26 +0100 Received: from statpc9.univ-lille1.fr (statpc9.univ-lille1.fr [134.206.85.138]) by webmail.univ-lille1.fr (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 10:45:29 +0100 Message-ID: <20070130104529.jo9lc0l47sccwggc@webmail.univ-lille1.fr> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 10:45:29 +0100 From: Daniel Flipo To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Helvetica, Latex, Tex References: <07013010253500.00752@rbastian> In-Reply-To: <07013010253500.00752@rbastian> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 30 Jan 2007 10:45:47 +0100 (CET) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (reserv5.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.19]); Tue, 30 Jan 2007 10:45:26 +0100 (CET) X-USTL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-USTL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-USTL-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-USTL-MailScanner-From: daniel.flipo@univ-lille1.fr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id l0U9jgTr064221 Selon René Bastian : > Latex : > le texte comprend la ligne > \newcommand{\helb}[1]{\fontsize{6mm}{12mm}{\usefont{T1}{phvb}{n}{n}#1}} > > remplace Helvetica-Bold par une autre fonte après avoir émis un > "Latex Font Warning" Comme le dit LaTeX : LaTeX Font Warning: Font shape `T1/phvb/n/n' undefined la fonte que tu demandes n'existe pas. Essaie plutôt \newcommand{\helb}[1]{\fontsize{6mm}{12mm}{\usefont{T1}{phv}{bx}{n}#1}} Famille phv, gras étendu (bx) romain (n), voir LaTeX Companion 2 chapitre sur les fontes. -- Daniel Flipo From - Tue Jan 30 12:54:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from relay-dv.club-internet.fr (relay-dv.club-internet.fr [194.158.96.208]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0UBrpwk052392 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:53:56 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from rbastian (c01v-212-194-161-52.n.club-internet.fr [212.194.161.52]) by relay-dv.club-internet.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id 6FA8225605 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:53:50 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" From: =?utf-8?q?Ren=C3=A9=20Bastian?= Organization: Ecchymoses To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Helvetica, Latex, Tex Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:55:34 +0100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <07013010253500.00752@rbastian> <20070130104529.jo9lc0l47sccwggc@webmail.univ-lille1.fr> In-Reply-To: <20070130104529.jo9lc0l47sccwggc@webmail.univ-lille1.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <07013012553402.00752@rbastian> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:53:56 +0100 (CET) Le Mardi 30 Janvier 2007 10:45, Daniel Flipo a écrit : > Selon René Bastian : > > Latex : > > le texte comprend la ligne > > \newcommand{\helb}[1]{\fontsize{6mm}{12mm}{\usefont{T1}{phvb}{n}{n}#1}} > > > > remplace Helvetica-Bold par une autre fonte après avoir émis un > > "Latex Font Warning" > > Comme le dit LaTeX : > LaTeX Font Warning: Font shape `T1/phvb/n/n' undefined > la fonte que tu demandes n'existe pas. > > Essaie plutôt > > \newcommand{\helb}[1]{\fontsize{6mm}{12mm}{\usefont{T1}{phv}{bx}{n}#1}} > Famille phv, gras étendu (bx) romain (n), voir LaTeX Companion 2 > chapitre sur les fontes. J'ai lu : le phvb dont il parle, ça sert à quoi ? à perturber ? merci, avec ce qu tu dis, ça marche -- René Bastian http://www.musiques-rb.org http://www.pythoneon.musiques-rb.org From - Tue Jan 30 13:26:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp24.orange.fr (smtp24.orange.fr [193.252.22.26]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0UCQnIm076465 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:26:49 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2427.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A3F981C0008F for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:26:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from [83.203.50.24] (AToulouse-254-1-3-24.w83-203.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.203.50.24]) by mwinf2427.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 622CA1C00091 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:26:49 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20070130122649402.622CA1C00091@mwinf2427.orange.fr Message-ID: <45BF398D.6040709@wanadoo.fr> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:26:53 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Jean-C=F4me_Charpentier?= User-Agent: IceDove 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Helvetica, Latex, Tex References: <07013010253500.00752@rbastian> In-Reply-To: <07013010253500.00752@rbastian> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:26:49 +0100 (CET) René Bastian a écrit : > Bonjour, Salut, > Latex : > le texte comprend la ligne > \newcommand{\helb}[1]{\fontsize{6mm}{12mm}{\usefont{T1}{phvb}{n}{n}#1}} > [...] > Quelle est l'erreur ou l'omission dans le texte Latex que j'ai écrit ? Déjà répondu dans la liste GUT par Daniel Flipo. L'erreur est que la graisse d'une famille ne se stipule pas dans son nom de famille mais dans l'argument qui suit. On ne dit pas Famille "helvetica grasse", normale, normale mais Famille "helvetica", grasse, normale D'où : ----- Ici ! Fautes | | V V \usefont{T1}{phv}{b}{n}#1} Au passage, l'argument de graise ne peut pas être n(ormal), c'est m(edium). Sauf si le créateur du fichier fd est un petit coquinou. On peut même écrire bx au lieu de b (c'est ce que fait LaTeX avec ses \textbf et autre \bfseries), le fichier t1phv.fd demande la substitution des bx en b. Au passage, si on a un doute, on peut remarquer que le fichier t1phvb.fd n'existe pas... enfin, il n'existe pas chez moi en tous cas :-) C'est un signe ! Jean-Côme Charpentier > avec mes remerciements il faudrait plutôt remercier Daniel ! Jean-Côme Charpentier From - Tue Jan 30 13:34:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE, DNS_FROM_RFC_POST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp23.orange.fr (smtp23.orange.fr [80.12.242.50]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id l0UCYFjD081268 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:34:21 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2346.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C249B1C00086 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:34:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from [83.203.50.24] (AToulouse-254-1-3-24.w83-203.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.203.50.24]) by mwinf2346.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 88C741C00082 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:34:15 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20070130123415560.88C741C00082@mwinf2346.orange.fr Message-ID: <45BF3B4C.80304@wanadoo.fr> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:34:20 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?SmVhbi1Dw7RtZSBDaGFycGVudGllcg==?= User-Agent: IceDove 1.5.0.9 (X11/20061220) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Helvetica, Latex, Tex References: <07013010253500.00752@rbastian> <20070130104529.jo9lc0l47sccwggc@webmail.univ-lille1.fr> <07013012553402.00752@rbastian> In-Reply-To: <07013012553402.00752@rbastian> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.1.9 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:34:21 +0100 (CET) René Bastian a écrit : > Le Mardi 30 Janvier 2007 10:45, Daniel Flipo a écrit : >> Selon René Bastian : Oublie mon dernier message, il y a eu du croisement dans l'air ! >> [...] >> Essaie plutôt >> >> \newcommand{\helb}[1]{\fontsize{6mm}{12mm}{\usefont{T1}{phv}{bx}{n}#1}} >> Famille phv, gras étendu (bx) romain (n), voir LaTeX Companion 2 >> chapitre sur les fontes. > > J'ai lu : le phvb dont il parle, ça sert à quoi ? > à perturber ? Pouuuh lààà ! La peur :-) J'ai cru que j'avais fait une faute (de plus) dans le LC2. Si c'est le phvb du tableau de la page 380 (tableau 7.8), c'est indiqué dans le titre de la colonne :-) Il s'agit du nom de la fonte PostScript *externe*. Dans l'exemple, on a bien un phvb.tfm.