From - Tue Sep 2 12:24:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp.sfr.fr (smtp-out2.sfr.fr [160.92.187.251]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m82ANmYi006887 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 12:23:54 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: X-SFR-UUID: 20080902102347830.CAC5CE002278@msfrf0101.sfr.fr Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: gut@ens.fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?math=E9matiques_en_fran=E7ais?= Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 12:21:45 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:23:54 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m82ANmYi006887 Y-a-t-il moyen de modifier simplement les noms des fonctions mathématiques usuelles, en particulier trigonométriques, pour les franciser ? Ivan From - Tue Sep 2 12:44:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2f.orange.fr (smtp2f.orange.fr [80.12.242.151]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m82Ai5iZ013387 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 12:44:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2f12.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4D7DF7000093 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 12:44:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [90.15.104.23] (AMarseille-157-1-25-23.w90-15.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.15.104.23]) by mwinf2f12.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 035387000092 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 12:44:04 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080902104405137.035387000092@mwinf2f12.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <235FE834-68D6-45BD-A69E-B6B02A675738@wanadoo.fr> From: "pir2.jv" Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_math=E9matiques_en_fran=E7ais?= Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 12:44:02 +0200 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:44:10 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m82Ai5iZ013387 Le 2 sept. 08 à 12:21, Ivan Lavallée a écrit : > > Y-a-t-il moyen de modifier simplement les noms des fonctions > mathématiques usuelles, en particulier trigonométriques, pour les > franciser ? > Ivan La question que je n'osais poser!!! Merci, oh, Ivan! > Jacques Vernin From - Tue Sep 2 12:55:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from di.ens.fr (di.ens.fr [129.199.99.1]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m82At7DO017107 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 12:55:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (ccheval@localhost) by di.ens.fr (8.13.6/jb-1.1) id m82At4ZT005484 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 12:55:04 +0200 X-Envelope-To: X-Authentication-Warning: di.ens.fr: ccheval owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 12:55:03 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?C=E9line_Chevalier?= X-X-Sender: ccheval@di.ens.fr To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?math=E9matiques?= en =?ISO-8859-1?Q?fran=E7ais?= In-Reply-To: <235FE834-68D6-45BD-A69E-B6B02A675738@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: References: <235FE834-68D6-45BD-A69E-B6B02A675738@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-947846813-290557621-1220352903=:3318" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:55:07 +0200 (CEST) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---947846813-290557621-1220352903=:3318 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Bonjour, > Y-a-t-il moyen de modifier simplement les noms des fonctions mathématiques > usuelles, en particulier trigonométriques, pour les franciser ? Personnellement je les redéfinis... Plusieurs manières possibles dont la plus simple (= recopier les définitions): \makeatletter \def\sinh{\mathop{\operator@font sh}\nolimits} \def\cosh{\mathop{\operator@font ch}\nolimits} \def\tanh{\mathop{\operator@font th}\nolimits} \makeatother Céline ---947846813-290557621-1220352903=:3318-- From - Tue Sep 2 14:37:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.5 required=5.0 tests=SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m82CbcLS053051 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 14:37:43 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KaV8X-00066F-Qo for gut@ens.fr; Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:37:33 +0000 Received: from dmn19.ec-nantes.fr ([130.66.111.19]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:37:33 +0000 Received: from giggzounet by dmn19.ec-nantes.fr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:37:33 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gut@ens.fr From: GiGGz Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Probl=E8me_de_num=E9rotation_de_page_av?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ec_=5Clistoffigures_dans_=5Ctableofcontents?= Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:37:25 +0200 Lines: 31 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: dmn19.ec-nantes.fr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) Sender: news X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:37:43 +0200 (CEST) Bonjour, Dans ma thèse, je souhaite faire apparaitre dans la table des matières ma tables des figures. J'ai donc : % Table des matières \tableofcontents \addcontentsline{toc}{chapter}{Table des matières} % Liste des figures \listoffigures \addcontentsline{toc}{chapter}{Table des figures} La table des figures apparait bien. mais j'ai un problème de numéro de page. En effet la compilation se termine invariablement par : ! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{page.xvi} has been referenced but does not exist, replaced by a fixed one Et comme numéro de page pour ma table des figures j'ai droit à la dernière page de celle-ci et non la première page : en clair si ma table des figure va de la page 8 à 10. dans la table des matières je vais avoir "table des figures p.10" au lieu de "table des figures p.8". Il en va de même pour \tableofcontents et \listoftables si je les fais apparaitre dans la tables des matières. Auriez vous une solution propre (autre qu'éditer le fichier .toc) ? Merci d'avance Guillaume From - Tue Sep 2 14:40:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.5 required=5.0 tests=SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from briaree.onecert.fr (briaree.onecert.fr [134.212.190.4]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m82CeWoq054889 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 14:40:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from neree.onecert.fr (thetis.onecert.fr [134.212.178.12]) by briaree.onecert.fr (8.14.1/8.14.1/ONERA-SRI) with ESMTP id m82CeUaG018771 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 14:40:30 +0200 Received: from neree.onecert.fr (thetis.antiviral [127.0.0.1]) by neree.onecert.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/ONERA-SRI) with ESMTP id m82CeU56028715 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 14:40:30 +0200 Received: from atoll.onecert.fr (atoll.onecert.fr [134.212.90.5]) by neree.onecert.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/ONERA-SRI) with ESMTP id m82CeTpm028710 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 14:40:29 +0200 Received: from atoll.onecert.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by atoll.onecert.fr (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ONERA-SRI) with ESMTP id m82CeTH9017962 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 14:40:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from drucbert@localhost) by atoll.onecert.fr (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/Submit) id m82CeTdl017961 for gut@ens.fr; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 14:40:29 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 14:40:29 +0200 (CEST) From: Jean-Pierre Drucbert Message-Id: <200809021240.m82CeTdl017961@atoll.onecert.fr> To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Probl=E8me?= de =?ISO-8859-1?Q?num=E9rotation?= de page avec \listoffigures dans \tableofcontents X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:40:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (briaree.onecert.fr [134.212.190.4]); Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:40:30 +0200 (CEST) Bonjour, regardez le paquetage `tocbibind'; c'est LA bonne solution. Jean-Pierre. -- Jean-Pierre F. Drucbert (JPFD) Email: jean-pierre dot drucbert at onera dot fr ONERA/DCMP/SRI Tél. 05-62-25-25-15; FAX: 05-62-25-25-35 2, avenue Edouard Belin / B.P. 74025 / 31055 - TOULOUSE CEDEX 4 Look to windward: life never ceases to surprise. Avertissement/disclaimer http://www.onera.fr/onera-en/emails-terms From - Tue Sep 2 14:42:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from di.ens.fr (di.ens.fr [129.199.99.1]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m82CgFjG055822 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 14:42:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (ccheval@localhost) by di.ens.fr (8.13.6/jb-1.1) id m82CgCuc010533 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 14:42:12 +0200 X-Envelope-To: X-Authentication-Warning: di.ens.fr: ccheval owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 14:42:12 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?C=E9line_Chevalier?= X-X-Sender: ccheval@di.ens.fr To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Probl=E8me?= de =?ISO-8859-1?Q?num=E9rotation?= de page avec \listoffigures dans \tableofcontents In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-947846813-1798112541-1220359332=:3318" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:42:16 +0200 (CEST) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---947846813-1798112541-1220359332=:3318 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Bonjour, > % Liste des figures > \listoffigures > \addcontentsline{toc}{chapter}{Table des figures} \addcontentsline{toc}{chapter}{Table des figures} \listoffigures devrait marcher (\addcontentsline utilise la page en cours donc la dernière si vous le mettez après la liste). Céline ---947846813-1798112541-1220359332=:3318-- From - Tue Sep 2 15:02:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.4 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ILLEGAL_CHARS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from salsa.ec-nantes.fr (salsa.ec-nantes.fr [130.66.33.3]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m82D2B9C067665 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:02:17 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by salsa.ec-nantes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA396729 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:02:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from salsa.ec-nantes.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (salsa [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24191-09 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:02:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from boromir.ec-nantes.fr (boromir.ec-nantes.fr [130.66.240.5]) by salsa.ec-nantes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB77E6714 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:02:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dmn19.ec-nantes.fr (dmn19.ec-nantes.fr [130.66.111.19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by boromir.ec-nantes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 874C3FE86A for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:01:42 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48BD3936.5060003@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:01:42 +0200 From: GiGGz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-CentraleNantes-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: Re: [gut] Problème de numérotation de X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at ec-nantes.fr X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER Non-encoded 8-bit data (char E8 hex) in message header 'Subject' Subject: Re: [gut] Probl\350me de num\351rotat... ^ X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:02:17 +0200 (CEST) Céline Chevalier a écrit : > > Bonjour, > > >> % Liste des figures >> \listoffigures >> \addcontentsline{toc}{chapter}{Table des figures} > > \addcontentsline{toc}{chapter}{Table des figures} > \listoffigures > > devrait marcher (\addcontentsline utilise la page en cours donc la > dernière si vous le mettez après la liste). > Tout à fait le problème c'est qu'il utilise la dernière page en cours, i.e. la dernière page de \listoffigures pour \listoftables. J'ai donc à chaque fois un décalage de 1 page. j'ai essayé en rajoutant \newpage ou \clearpage. mais ça ne marche pas... merci From - Tue Sep 2 15:09:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.4 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ILLEGAL_CHARS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from salsa.ec-nantes.fr (salsa.ec-nantes.fr [130.66.33.3]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m82D9hm8071971 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:09:48 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by salsa.ec-nantes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F7386723 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:09:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from salsa.ec-nantes.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (salsa [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17146-04 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:09:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from boromir.ec-nantes.fr (boromir.ec-nantes.fr [130.66.240.5]) by salsa.ec-nantes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B98496720 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:09:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dmn19.ec-nantes.fr (dmn19.ec-nantes.fr [130.66.111.19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by boromir.ec-nantes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 985654C5F0 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:09:29 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48BD3B09.2060800@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:09:29 +0200 From: GiGGz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr References: <200809021240.m82CeTdl017961@atoll.onecert.fr> In-Reply-To: <200809021240.m82CeTdl017961@atoll.onecert.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-CentraleNantes-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: Re: [gut] Problème de numérotation de X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at ec-nantes.fr X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER Non-encoded 8-bit data (char E8 hex) in message header 'Subject' Subject: Re: [gut] Probl\350me de num\351rotat... ^ X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:09:48 +0200 (CEST) Jean-Pierre Drucbert a écrit : > Bonjour, > > regardez le paquetage `tocbibind'; c'est LA bonne solution. > > Jean-Pierre. > DAMNED! ça marche direct! merci bien. après 2 heures de lutte...le plaisir est à son paroxysme! From - Tue Sep 2 15:26:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.5 required=5.0 tests=SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (smtp20.orange.fr [193.252.22.31]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m82DQDNK081537 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:26:13 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2022.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 51A5A1C00051 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:26:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from drums (ALille-156-1-140-60.w92-131.abo.wanadoo.fr [92.131.179.60]) by mwinf2022.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 03EC81C00238 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:26:12 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080902132613162.03EC81C00238@mwinf2022.orange.fr Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:28:10 +0200 From: Denis =?UTF-8?B?Qml0b3V6w6k=?= To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] =?UTF-8?B?bWF0aMOpbWF0aXF1ZXM=?= en =?UTF-8?B?ZnJhbsOn?= =?UTF-8?B?YWlz?= Message-ID: <20080902152810.5b6374d9@drums> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i586-mandriva-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:26:13 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m82DQDNK081537 Le mardi 02/09/08 à 12h21, Ivan Lavallée a écrit : > Y-a-t-il moyen de modifier simplement les noms des fonctions > mathématiques usuelles, en particulier trigonométriques, pour les > franciser ? Par exemple : \usepackage{amsmath} \DeclareMathOperator{\Arccos}{Arccos} \DeclareMathOperator{\Arcsin}{Arcsin} Sinon, voir du côté du package tdsfrmath de notre ami Yvon : http://tug.ctan.org/cgi-bin/ctanPackageInformation.py?id=tdsfrmath -- Denis From - Tue Sep 2 15:29:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.5 required=5.0 tests=SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from briaree.onecert.fr (briaree.onecert.fr [134.212.190.4]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m82DTMTk083165 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:29:28 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from neree.onecert.fr (thetis.onecert.fr [134.212.178.12]) by briaree.onecert.fr (8.14.1/8.14.1/ONERA-SRI) with ESMTP id m82DTJo7007482 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:29:19 +0200 Received: from neree.onecert.fr (thetis.antiviral [127.0.0.1]) by neree.onecert.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/ONERA-SRI) with ESMTP id m82DTJJJ032297 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:29:19 +0200 Received: from atoll.onecert.fr (atoll.onecert.fr [134.212.90.5]) by neree.onecert.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/ONERA-SRI) with ESMTP id m82DTJr1032292 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:29:19 +0200 Received: from atoll.onecert.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by atoll.onecert.fr (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ONERA-SRI) with ESMTP id m82DTJhh018284 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:29:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from drucbert@localhost) by atoll.onecert.fr (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/Submit) id m82DTJFw018283 for gut@ens.fr; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:29:19 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 15:29:19 +0200 (CEST) From: Jean-Pierre Drucbert Message-Id: <200809021329.m82DTJFw018283@atoll.onecert.fr> To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Probl=E8me?= de =?ISO-8859-1?Q?num=E9rotation?= de X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:29:28 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (briaree.onecert.fr [134.212.190.4]); Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:29:19 +0200 (CEST) Re-bonjour, Bien sûr que ça marche: regardez qui en est l'auteur, une vieille connaissance, Peter Wilson himself. Jean-Pierre -- Jean-Pierre F. Drucbert (JPFD) Email: jean-pierre dot drucbert at onera dot fr ONERA/DCMP/SRI Tél. 05-62-25-25-15; FAX: 05-62-25-25-35 2, avenue Edouard Belin / B.P. 74025 / 31055 - TOULOUSE CEDEX 4 Look to windward: life never ceases to surprise. Avertissement/disclaimer http://www.onera.fr/onera-en/emails-terms From - Tue Sep 2 18:30:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp.sfr.fr (smtp-out1.sfr.fr [160.92.187.254]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m82GUYd0055573 for ; Tue, 2 Sep 2008 18:30:40 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: X-SFR-UUID: 20080902162953701.AB4D2E001219@msfrf0102.sfr.fr Message-Id: <85ED2C83-BC88-476C-AEA3-7A7F3DB25682@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: <20080902152810.5b6374d9@drums> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_math=C3=A9matiques_en_fran=C3=A7ais?= Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 18:26:50 +0200 References: <20080902152810.5b6374d9@drums> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:30:40 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m82GUYd0055573 Merci... Ivan Le 2 sept. 08 à 15:28, Denis Bitouzé a écrit : > > Le mardi 02/09/08 à 12h21, > Ivan Lavallée a écrit : > >> Y-a-t-il moyen de modifier simplement les noms des fonctions >> mathématiques usuelles, en particulier trigonométriques, pour les >> franciser ? > > Par exemple : > > \usepackage{amsmath} > \DeclareMathOperator{\Arccos}{Arccos} > \DeclareMathOperator{\Arcsin}{Arcsin} > > Sinon, voir du côté du package tdsfrmath de notre ami Yvon : > > http://tug.ctan.org/cgi-bin/ctanPackageInformation.py?id=tdsfrmath > -- > Denis > > > From - Wed Sep 3 13:42:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m83Bfnwf057085 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 13:41:56 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Kaqk9-0006iX-07 for gut@ens.fr; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 11:41:49 +0000 Received: from dmn19.ec-nantes.fr ([130.66.111.19]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 11:41:43 +0000 Received: from giggzounet by dmn19.ec-nantes.fr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 11:41:43 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gut@ens.fr From: GiGGz Subject: Pb avec backref, la biblio et la remise a 1 du compteur de page Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:41:34 +0200 Lines: 41 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: dmn19.ec-nantes.fr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) Sender: news X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:41:56 +0200 (CEST) Bonjour, décidemment je vous écrit beaucoup ces temps-ci...désolé... BOn cette fois problème avec backref, option d'hyperref qui permet de faire apparaitre les numéros de page/section, où il y a les citations, dans la biliographie. Voilà comment j'utilise hyperref : \usepackage[pdftex, colorlinks, citecolor=blue, urlcolor=Magenta, filecolor=green, linkcolor=red, bookmarks, bookmarksopen=true, bookmarksnumbered=true, plainpages=true, pdfpagelabels, pdfpagemode=None, pagebackref, backref=page]{hyperref} Dans ma biblio apparait alors bien les numéros de pages correspondant à la page où sont cités les \item de la biblio. MAIS il y a un problème : Mon rapport commence par 15 page de table des matières, liste des figures et tableaux, nomenclature...arrivée à l'introduction je remets le compteur de page à 1 (c'est qd même plus propre!). Qd je fais par exemple une citation sur la page 5 de mon rapport (donc 5 page après le début de l'intro), il apparait le numéro 5 dans ma biblio. jusque là c'est parfait...mais qd je clique sur le lien du "5" je me retrouve à la première page 5 de mon rapport, ie dans la table des matières...misère... faut t il remettre à 0 d'autres commandes...? des idées ? Merci d'avance Guillaume From - Wed Sep 3 16:54:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp27.orange.fr (smtp27.orange.fr [80.12.242.94]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m83EsGKY036865 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:54:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2704.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3E4D21C000B6 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:54:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Fertel.home (ARennes-358-1-60-202.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.49.251.202]) by mwinf2704.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 172441C0008C for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:54:15 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080903145415949.172441C0008C@mwinf2704.orange.fr Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jacques_Andr=E9?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Re: [gut] Pb avec backref, la biblio et la remise a 1 du compteur de page Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:54:13 +0200 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:54:22 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m83EsGKY036865 Le 3 sept. 2008 à 13:41, GiGGz a écrit : > > Mon rapport commence par 15 page de table des matières, liste des > figures et tableaux, nomenclature...arrivée à l'introduction je > remets le compteur de page à 1 (c'est qd même plus propre!). Je ne répond pas à votre question, mais à votre place je mettrais les folios des 15 (16!) premières pages en chiffres romains (voire bdc). Ça pourrait d'ailleurs répondre à la question ! -- Jacques ANDRÉ From - Wed Sep 3 16:59:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from salsa.ec-nantes.fr (salsa.ec-nantes.fr [130.66.33.3]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m83ExF6Z038799 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:59:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by salsa.ec-nantes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 965CE5C16 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:59:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from salsa.ec-nantes.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (salsa [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10224-06 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:59:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from boromir.ec-nantes.fr (boromir.ec-nantes.fr [130.66.240.5]) by salsa.ec-nantes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA116653A for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:59:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dmn19.ec-nantes.fr (dmn19.ec-nantes.fr [130.66.111.19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by boromir.ec-nantes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD3B4C7DA for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 16:58:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48BEA62C.4050107@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:58:52 +0200 From: GiGGz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Pb avec backref, la biblio et la remise a 1 du compteur de page References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-CentraleNantes-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at ec-nantes.fr X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:59:21 +0200 (CEST) Jacques André a écrit : > > Le 3 sept. 2008 à 13:41, GiGGz a écrit : >> >> Mon rapport commence par 15 page de table des matières, liste des >> figures et tableaux, nomenclature...arrivée à l'introduction je remets >> le compteur de page à 1 (c'est qd même plus propre!). > > Je ne répond pas à votre question, mais à votre place je mettrais les > folios des 15 (16!) premières pages en chiffres romains (voire bdc). Ça > pourrait d'ailleurs répondre à la question ! > Oui c'est ce que je fais : les 15 premières pages sont en \pagenumbering{roman}, puis au début de mon intro, je mets : \setcounter{page}{1} \pagenumbering{arabic} Mais dans la biblio, j'ai par example une citation blable puis le bon numéro de page (par exemple 7) en chiffre "arabic", mais qd je clique dessus, je tombre sur la "première p7", ie la page 7 en chiffres romains... Soit il y a un bug dans le package hyperref (de la vieille distrib que j'utilise...), soit \setcounter{page}{1} ne remets pas "tout" à 1... Guillaume From - Wed Sep 3 17:10:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from ciao.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m83F9nm8042610 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 17:10:00 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KatzR-0007vs-15 for gut@ens.fr; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:09:49 +0000 Received: from dmn19.ec-nantes.fr ([130.66.111.19]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:09:49 +0000 Received: from giggzounet by dmn19.ec-nantes.fr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:09:49 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gut@ens.fr From: GiGGz Subject: Quand doit on mettre \protect ? Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:09:40 +0200 Lines: 10 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: dmn19.ec-nantes.fr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) Sender: news X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:10:00 +0200 (CEST) Rebonjour, Je viens de lire qu'il existait une commande \protect . Qd doit on l'utiliser ? par exemple si j'utilise \ref{blabla} dans une \caption, je doit mettre \protect devant \ref ? merci Guillaume From - Wed Sep 3 17:35:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from ciao.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m83FZOnc051835 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 17:35:37 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KauO6-0000rD-HO for gut@ens.fr; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:35:18 +0000 Received: from dmn19.ec-nantes.fr ([130.66.111.19]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:35:18 +0000 Received: from giggzounet by dmn19.ec-nantes.fr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:35:18 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gut@ens.fr From: GiGGz Subject: Re: Pb avec backref, la biblio et la remise a 1 du compteur de page Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:35:10 +0200 Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <48BEA62C.4050107@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: dmn19.ec-nantes.fr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) In-Reply-To: <48BEA62C.4050107@gmail.com> Sender: news X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:35:37 +0200 (CEST) VICTOIRE ! La solution résidait dans l'utilisation correcte de l'option plainpages. voici ce que j'ai et que me donne le résultat voulu : \usepackage[pdftex, % debug=true, % Mode debug plainpages=false, % necessaire pour que % pagebackref fonctionne pagebackref, % equivalent à backref=page ]{hyperref} \hypersetup{pdftitle={Thèse}, linktocpage=true, % Les pages de TOC,LOF sont les liens bookmarks=true, % Signets bookmarksopen=true, bookmarksnumbered=true, % Signets numérotés pdfpagelabels, pdfpagemode=None, % Signets/vignettes fermé à l'ouverture % backref=slide, % options : section; slide; page; none colorlinks, % Liens en couleur citecolor=blue, urlcolor=Magenta, filecolor=green, linkcolor=red } Bonne journée! Guillaume From - Wed Sep 3 17:38:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.4 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ILLEGAL_CHARS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from salsa.ec-nantes.fr (salsa.ec-nantes.fr [130.66.33.3]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m83Fbb5r052793 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 17:37:43 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by salsa.ec-nantes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FA5D6475 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 17:37:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from salsa.ec-nantes.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (salsa [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21944-05 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 17:37:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from boromir.ec-nantes.fr (boromir.ec-nantes.fr [130.66.240.5]) by salsa.ec-nantes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 001B216D5 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 17:37:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dmn19.ec-nantes.fr (dmn19.ec-nantes.fr [130.66.111.19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by boromir.ec-nantes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BDA44C769 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 17:37:27 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48BEAF36.2010301@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:37:26 +0200 From: GiGGz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-CentraleNantes-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: Re: [gut] Problème de numérotation de X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at ec-nantes.fr X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER Non-encoded 8-bit data (char E8 hex) in message header 'Subject' Subject: Re: [gut] Probl\350me de num\351rotat... ^ X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:37:43 +0200 (CEST) GiGGz a écrit : > Bonjour, > > Dans ma thèse, je souhaite faire apparaitre dans la table des matières > ma tables des figures. J'ai donc : > % Table des matières > \tableofcontents > \addcontentsline{toc}{chapter}{Table des matières} > > % Liste des figures > \listoffigures > \addcontentsline{toc}{chapter}{Table des figures} > > La table des figures apparait bien. mais j'ai un problème de numéro de > page. En effet la compilation se termine invariablement par : > > ! pdfTeX warning (dest): name{page.xvi} has been referenced but does not > exist, > replaced by a fixed one > ce message était en fait du à un pb annexe venant du package hyperref. l'utilisation de l'option plainpages=false l'a fait disparaitre. > Et comme numéro de page pour ma table des figures j'ai droit à la > dernière page de celle-ci et non la première page : en clair si ma table > des figure va de la page 8 à 10. dans la table des matières je vais > avoir "table des figures p.10" au lieu de "table des figures p.8". > > Il en va de même pour \tableofcontents et \listoftables si je les fais > apparaitre dans la tables des matières. > > Auriez vous une solution propre (autre qu'éditer le fichier .toc) ? > > Merci d'avance > Guillaume > From - Wed Sep 3 20:27:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m83IRbgr006775 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 20:27:41 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from math.jussieu.fr (mail.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.55]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id m83IRaDA074361 for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 20:27:36 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 166 Received: from [192.168.0.126] (elzevir.fr [88.165.216.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by math.jussieu.fr (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m83IRYgj005441 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 3 Sep 2008 20:27:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48BED716.5070101@elzevir.fr> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 20:27:34 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Manuel_P=E9gouri=E9-Gonnard?= User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Quand doit on mettre \protect ? 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B=0.004 -> S=0.004 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham GiGGz scripsit (03.09.2008 17:09) > Je viens de lire qu'il existait une commande \protect . Qd doit on > l'utiliser ? > Quand il faut :-) En fait, les endroits où l'on peut avoir de besoin de \protect sont essentiellement ce qu'on appelle les arguments « mobiles », àa savoir ceux qui vont se retrouver à plusieurs endroit du document, comme les titres de section (sur place et dans la table des matières), les titres de figures (table des figures), etc. Ça c'est facile. Après, ce qui est plus chaotique, c'est de savoir quelles commandes ont besoin d'être protégées : là il n'y a pas de règle. Des fois la commande est naturellement robuste, des fois l'auteur de la commande a déjà intégré le \protect dedans, des fois pas, et des fois pour un même commande ça dépend des extensiosn qu'on a chargées ou pas : \footnote est fragile d'habitude, mais pas mal de packages la rendent robuste, par exemple. > par exemple si j'utilise \ref{blabla} dans une \caption, je doit mettre > \protect devant \ref ? > En vertu du principe ci-dessus, ça dépend des packages que tu as chargé, s'ils sont susceptibles de redéfinir \ref. Mais potentiellement, oui. En fait, ce que je recommande en pratique, c'est de savoir quand un \protect est peut-être nécessaire, et quand ça plante à la compilation (parce qu'un \protect manquant, ça pardonne pas), d'avoir le réflexe de penser à le rajouter. Et puis à l'usage on finit par s'habituer aux deux ou trois commandes fragiles qu'on utilise couramment. Manuel. From - Thu Sep 4 03:16:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (smtp20.orange.fr [193.252.22.29]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m841GKs6010582 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 03:16:20 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2014.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DD4A11C0009A; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 03:16:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (AMontsouris-159-1-73-174.w92-128.abo.wanadoo.fr [92.128.56.174]) by mwinf2014.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C653A1C0008C; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 03:16:19 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080904011619812.C653A1C0008C@mwinf2014.orange.fr In-Reply-To: <48BED716.5070101@elzevir.fr> References: <48BED716.5070101@elzevir.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <687C19A3-20D9-41B4-AAD4-F8B3A0EDFB41@math.jussieu.fr> Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Bella=EFche?= From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Bella=EFche?= Subject: Re: [gut] Quand doit on mettre \protect ? Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 03:16:40 +0200 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 04 Sep 2008 03:16:20 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m841GKs6010582 Le 3 sept. 08 à 20:27, Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard a écrit : > GiGGz scripsit (03.09.2008 17:09) >> Je viens de lire qu'il existait une commande \protect . Qd doit on >> l'utiliser ? >> > Quand il faut :-) En fait, les endroits où l'on peut avoir de > besoin de > \protect sont essentiellement ce qu'on appelle les arguments « > mobiles », àa > savoir ceux qui vont se retrouver à plusieurs endroit du document, > comme les > titres de section (sur place et dans la table des matières), les > titres de > figures (table des figures), etc. > > Ça c'est facile. Après, ce qui est plus chaotique, c'est de savoir > quelles > commandes ont besoin d'être protégées : là il n'y a pas de règle. > Des fois la > commande est naturellement robuste, des fois l'auteur de la > commande a déjà > intégré le \protect dedans, des fois pas, et des fois pour un même > commande ça > dépend des extensiosn qu'on a chargées ou pas : \footnote est fragile > d'habitude, mais pas mal de packages la rendent robuste, par exemple. > >> par exemple si j'utilise \ref{blabla} dans une \caption, je doit >> mettre >> \protect devant \ref ? >> > En vertu du principe ci-dessus, ça dépend des packages que tu as > chargé, s'ils > sont susceptibles de redéfinir \ref. Mais potentiellement, oui. > > En fait, ce que je recommande en pratique, c'est de savoir quand un > \protect > est peut-être nécessaire, et quand ça plante à la compilation > (parce qu'un > \protect manquant, ça pardonne pas), d'avoir le réflexe de penser à le > rajouter. Et puis à l'usage on finit par s'habituer aux deux ou trois > commandes fragiles qu'on utilise couramment. > > Manuel. Je prolonge la question : Existe-t-il une commande anti-protect ? Exemple d'utilisation : J'ai un titre de section (centré) que je trouve mal coupé. Si j'inclus une commande pour déplacer la coupure, cette commande se retrouve dans la table des matières, et fait passer à la ligne ce qui n'a pas besoin d'y passer. Je préviens l'objection. En principe, ce qui va dans la table des matières, c'est le titre court qu'on envoie en headings, et il fait toujours moins d'une ligne, même si le titre de la section est très long. Mais j'ai changé cela, et c'est toujours le titre long (le titre réel de la section) qui va dans la table des métières. On peut de toute façon imaginer d'autres usages pour une commande \fragile ou \noprotect. André Bellaïche From - Thu Sep 4 04:08:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp8-g19.free.fr (smtp8-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.65]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m84282Dg020617 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 04:08:08 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtp8-g19.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp8-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E32932A79C for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 04:08:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.124] (elzevir.fr [88.165.216.11]) by smtp8-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F1332A78B for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 04:08:02 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48BF4302.8010007@elzevir.fr> Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 04:08:02 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Manuel_P=E9gouri=E9-Gonnard?= User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Quand doit on mettre \protect ? References: <48BED716.5070101@elzevir.fr> <687C19A3-20D9-41B4-AAD4-F8B3A0EDFB41@math.jussieu.fr> In-Reply-To: <687C19A3-20D9-41B4-AAD4-F8B3A0EDFB41@math.jussieu.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 OpenPGP: url=http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x50A89B42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 04 Sep 2008 04:08:08 +0200 (CEST) André Bellaïche a écrit : > Je prolonge la question : > > Existe-t-il une commande anti-protect ? > Euh... > Exemple d'utilisation : J'ai un titre de section (centré) que je trouve > mal coupé. Si j'inclus une commande pour déplacer la coupure, cette > commande se retrouve dans la table des matières, et fait passer à la > ligne ce qui n'a pas besoin d'y passer. > Ah ! Alors c'est pas un anti-protect que tu veux, c'est un antitoc :-) Parce que \protect, c'est pas ça qui fait passer les gens dans la table des matières, c'est juste ce qui les empêche d'exploser (emportant le reste de ton document avec eux) quand LaTeX essaie de les faire passer dans la table des matières. À ma connaissance, ça n'existe pas, mais c'est plutôt facile à bricoler. % préambule \DeclareRobustCommand*\antitoc[1]{#1} % document \section{Des trucs \antitoc{pas dans la tdm}} % inclusion de la table des matières \renewcommand*\antitoc[1]{} \tableofcontents \DeclareRobustCommand*\antitoc[1]{#1} % inutile si on est à la fin Pas testé, m'engueuler si ça marche pas. Manuel. From - Thu Sep 4 09:21:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.36]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m847KrkV090151 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 09:21:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F28817256 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 09:20:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (vig38-2-82-225-223-57.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.223.57]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 574A41724C for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 09:20:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 09:20:50 +0200 From: Thierry Bouche X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.14) Educational Organization: Nonsense Inc. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1581555326.20080904092050@ujf-grenoble.fr> To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Quand doit on mettre \protect ? In-Reply-To: <48BED716.5070101@elzevir.fr> References: <48BED716.5070101@elzevir.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:21:10 +0200 (CEST) Le mercredi 3 septembre 2008 à 20:27:34, Manuel écrivit : MPG> \footnote est fragile MPG> d'habitude, mais pas mal de packages la rendent robuste, par exemple. moui, je ne sais pas si c'est vrai, mais il serait bon de se demander dans quel cas un footnote dans un argument mobile a du sens... (mettre la même note au bas de toute page dans laquelle cet argument est reproduit ? cas d'un titre courant en tête de page, p. exemple ??) Thierry From - Thu Sep 4 09:28:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (smtp6-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.36]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m847SZXj092329 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 09:28:40 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FF1B19780 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 09:28:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (vig38-2-82-225-223-57.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.223.57]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0D851970F for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 09:28:34 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 09:28:32 +0200 From: Thierry Bouche X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.14) Educational Organization: Nonsense Inc. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <176066976.20080904092832@ujf-grenoble.fr> To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Quand doit on mettre \protect ? In-Reply-To: <48BF4302.8010007@elzevir.fr> References: <48BED716.5070101@elzevir.fr> <687C19A3-20D9-41B4-AAD4-F8B3A0EDFB41@math.jussieu.fr> <48BF4302.8010007@elzevir.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 04 Sep 2008 09:28:40 +0200 (CEST) >> Exemple d'utilisation : J'ai un titre de section (centré) que je trouve >> mal coupé. Si j'inclus une commande pour déplacer la coupure, cette >> commande se retrouve dans la table des matières, et fait passer à la >> ligne ce qui n'a pas besoin d'y passer. >> MPG> Ah ! Alors c'est pas un anti-protect que tu veux, c'est un antitoc :-) j'ai réglé ça depuis très longtemps en mettant un \let\\\space avant d'imprimer \leftmark dans les entêtes... en fait, ce genre de truc est standard dans les classes de l'ams (amsart...), qui fournissent d'ailleurs un « antitoc » qui marche, lui ! \except{toc}{\\} p. ex. MPG> % inclusion de la table des matières MPG> \renewcommand*\antitoc[1]{} MPG> \tableofcontents MPG> \DeclareRobustCommand*\antitoc[1]{#1} % inutile si on est à la fin trop tard ! \tableofcontents fait tout, il faudrait donc changer la signification de cette commande *avant* que \jobname.toc soit lu, donc redéfinir \tableofcontents Thierry From - Thu Sep 4 10:04:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from ciao.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8483fLR004463 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 10:03:51 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Kb9oX-0001aU-SP for gut@ens.fr; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 08:03:37 +0000 Received: from dmn19.ec-nantes.fr ([130.66.111.19]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 08:03:37 +0000 Received: from giggzounet by dmn19.ec-nantes.fr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 08:03:37 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gut@ens.fr From: GiGGz Subject: Re: Quand doit on mettre \protect ? Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 10:03:29 +0200 Lines: 39 Message-ID: References: <48BED716.5070101@elzevir.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: dmn19.ec-nantes.fr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) In-Reply-To: <48BED716.5070101@elzevir.fr> Sender: news X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 04 Sep 2008 10:03:51 +0200 (CEST) Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard a écrit : > GiGGz scripsit (03.09.2008 17:09) >> Je viens de lire qu'il existait une commande \protect . Qd doit on >> l'utiliser ? >> > Quand il faut :-) En fait, les endroits où l'on peut avoir de besoin de > \protect sont essentiellement ce qu'on appelle les arguments « mobiles », àa > savoir ceux qui vont se retrouver à plusieurs endroit du document, comme les > titres de section (sur place et dans la table des matières), les titres de > figures (table des figures), etc. > > Ça c'est facile. Après, ce qui est plus chaotique, c'est de savoir quelles > commandes ont besoin d'être protégées : là il n'y a pas de règle. Des fois la > commande est naturellement robuste, des fois l'auteur de la commande a déjà > intégré le \protect dedans, des fois pas, et des fois pour un même commande ça > dépend des extensiosn qu'on a chargées ou pas : \footnote est fragile > d'habitude, mais pas mal de packages la rendent robuste, par exemple. > >> par exemple si j'utilise \ref{blabla} dans une \caption, je doit mettre >> \protect devant \ref ? >> > En vertu du principe ci-dessus, ça dépend des packages que tu as chargé, s'ils > sont susceptibles de redéfinir \ref. Mais potentiellement, oui. > > En fait, ce que je recommande en pratique, c'est de savoir quand un \protect > est peut-être nécessaire, et quand ça plante à la compilation (parce qu'un > \protect manquant, ça pardonne pas), d'avoir le réflexe de penser à le > rajouter. Et puis à l'usage on finit par s'habituer aux deux ou trois > commandes fragiles qu'on utilise couramment. > > Manuel. > Bon donc en gros il n'y a pas de manuel...c'est à l'expérience...bon c'est bête, j'en ai pas... :) merci en tt cas! Bonne journée From - Thu Sep 4 10:23:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.225]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m848Nf6I012348 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 10:23:47 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id 69so2738668wri.5 for ; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 01:23:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:from; bh=mPhSCFtVZctUJ9Or3aXHgQVr1x5yAKSXnqRZdUhOOIg=; b=vSX3x3ZjG2NyINiBSG3OgRnFiuO39Q9s7tfevqoKRGazoa3B8y30zIxFxXVLX+SfKX cwUVqoM0/Kc0UON/B2o9nJcUs+6o/2pcTWmjMddXu+zBmoB5HdyoKuUrhJfJ35TIJd9J xkCT3oW3Xvhi2WGpAnsHy32NCBSNtaTQA6oG4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:from; b=HBPJFkbXFoSWJ6VOVqPXgTXLU/ReIoncHRIaeEatuS2J287T7ljLgrPknG/sNwgJXz KVe0ZRVBUtsa+oB6zDDDn7Gw7UId+URhM8JoO/F59Yo2DiLlidtYkuVg5e6sycUjogzO /nc8rtOjblsa3AK7gyAGmAgB8kG8xesiBF8dk= Received: by 10.90.66.14 with SMTP id o14mr12792722aga.15.1220516620156; Thu, 04 Sep 2008 01:23:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.2.125? ( [82.240.214.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 1sm14974825agb.20.2008.09.04.01.23.38 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 04 Sep 2008 01:23:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48BF9B2C.7070603@yahoo.fr> Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 10:24:12 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: tableau large Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: ghislain dutheil X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 04 Sep 2008 10:23:47 +0200 (CEST) Bonjour à tous, A partir de résultats en statistiques je produis des tableaux avec plein de colonnes. Invariablement ils sortent de la page. Longtable gère la longeur du tableau pas sa largeur. Tabularx gère la largeur mais il va me faire des colonnes trop étroites. Comment pourrais-je faire pour que les colonnes passent automatiquement à la page suivante quand elles dépassent. Ce qui serait encore plus sympa, c'est qu'en allant à la page suivante la première colonne du tableau soit reprise. En espérant que vous aurez une idée. Merci Ghislain Actuellement mon code : \begin{table} \begin{center} \begin{tabular}{l*{52}{rr}} nom de variable& résultat 1&résultat 2& .....\\ nom de variable& résultat 1&résultat 2& .... \hline \small\textit{Source:} auto.dta \end{tabular} \end{center} \end{table} From - Thu Sep 4 12:15:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp.sfr.fr (smtp-out1.sfr.fr [160.92.187.254]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m84AEuZc057786 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:15:02 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [IPv6???1] (unknown [91.69.64.189]) by msfrf0104.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 42784E004AD2 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:14:56 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20080904101456272.42784E004AD2@msfrf0104.sfr.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <48BED716.5070101@elzevir.fr> References: <48BED716.5070101@elzevir.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: From: Pierre Albarede Subject: Re: [gut] Quand doit on mettre \protect ? Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:14:39 +0200 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:15:02 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m84AEuZc057786 Bonjour, On 3 sept. 08, at 20:27, Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard wrote: > Après, ce qui est plus chaotique, c'est de savoir quelles > commandes ont besoin d'être protégées : là il n'y a pas de règle. > Des fois la > commande est naturellement robuste, des fois l'auteur de la > commande a déjà > intégré le \protect dedans, YAKA protéger systématiquement toutes les commandes dans leur définition. Est-ce que ça pourrait marcher ? Il faudrait recompiler le format latex, pour les macro précompilées. Est-ce ça aurait un effet sur la performance (temps-espace de calcul) ? Sinon, pourquoi les commandes fragiles existent-elles ? Je n'ai vu cela dans aucun autre langage. C'est comme le secret de Toutencamion cette affaire là. Pierre Albarède, A rés. Valvert, 12 r. 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References: <48BED716.5070101@elzevir.fr> <1581555326.20080904092050@ujf-grenoble.fr> In-Reply-To: <1581555326.20080904092050@ujf-grenoble.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/8155/Thu Sep 4 09:16:44 2008 on shiva.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94, clamav-milter version 0.94 on mail.math.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Miltered: at jchkmail2.jussieu.fr with ID 48BF9C8C.008 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 48BF9C8C.008/134.157.13.55/mail.math.jussieu.fr/math.jussieu.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 48BF9C8C.008 on jchkmail2.jussieu.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.010 -> S=0.010 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:29:31 +0200 (CEST) Thierry Bouche scripsit (04.09.2008 09:20) > Le mercredi 3 septembre 2008 à 20:27:34, Manuel écrivit : > > MPG> \footnote est fragile > MPG> d'habitude, mais pas mal de packages la rendent robuste, par exemple. > > moui, je ne sais pas si c'est vrai, mais il serait bon de se demander > dans quel cas un footnote dans un argument mobile a du sens... Il serait tellemmenent bon de se poser cette question, que certains se la sont posée et y ont déjà répondu :-) \usepackage[stable]{footmisc} par exemple. Manuel. From - Thu Sep 4 12:32:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m84AWGmw064397 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:32:16 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from math.jussieu.fr (mail.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.55]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id m84AWFJe069122 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:32:15 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 165 Received: from [192.168.0.126] (elzevir.fr [88.165.216.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by math.jussieu.fr (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m84AWDTV005821 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:32:14 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48BFB92D.4080005@elzevir.fr> Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:32:13 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Manuel_P=E9gouri=E9-Gonnard?= User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Quand doit on mettre \protect ? 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X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 48BF9D31.00A/134.157.13.55/mail.math.jussieu.fr/math.jussieu.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 48BF9D31.00A on jchkmail2.jussieu.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.006 -> S=0.006 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham Thierry Bouche scripsit (04.09.2008 09:28) > en fait, ce genre de truc est standard dans les classes de l'ams > (amsart...), qui fournissent d'ailleurs un « antitoc » qui marche, > lui ! > Argh. > trop tard ! \tableofcontents fait tout, il faudrait donc changer la > signification de cette commande *avant* que \jobname.toc soit lu, > donc redéfinir \tableofcontents > Pauvre de moi, j'avions oublié qu'en effet \tableofcontents lit *et écrit* dans le fichier .toc. C'est d'ailleurs là le problème, c'est que j'avais bien changé la commande avant la lecture, mais aussi avant l'écriture. Donc en effet mon idée tombe à l'eau à moins de rédéfinir \tableofcontents. Manuel. From - Thu Sep 4 12:32:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2e.orange.fr (smtp2e.orange.fr [80.12.242.112]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m84AWc0P064543 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:32:44 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2e09.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C590570000B9 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:32:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (ABordeaux-256-1-131-250.w90-16.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.16.170.250]) by mwinf2e09.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9108D7000087 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:32:38 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080904103238594.9108D7000087@mwinf2e09.orange.fr Message-Id: <5D1FFA2D-A17B-4784-A9CD-2809FB9F6DB9@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: gut@ens.fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: valide ? Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:32:07 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:32:44 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m84AWc0P064543 L'écriture suivante est-elle valide ? Si oui produit-elle ce qu'on en attend, à savoir que ce mot à cet endroit apparaît en gras dans l'index ? \index{chose}{\bf Bidule} Ivan From - Thu Sep 4 12:38:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from di.ens.fr (di.ens.fr [129.199.99.1]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m84AcjNl066641 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:38:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (ccheval@localhost) by di.ens.fr (8.13.6/jb-1.1) id m84AcfGv028094 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:38:41 +0200 X-Envelope-To: X-Authentication-Warning: di.ens.fr: ccheval owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:38:41 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?C=E9line_Chevalier?= X-X-Sender: ccheval@di.ens.fr To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] valide ? In-Reply-To: <5D1FFA2D-A17B-4784-A9CD-2809FB9F6DB9@orange.fr> Message-ID: References: <5D1FFA2D-A17B-4784-A9CD-2809FB9F6DB9@orange.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-947846813-836305422-1220524721=:25043" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:38:45 +0200 (CEST) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---947846813-836305422-1220524721=:25043 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Bonjour, > L'écriture suivante est-elle valide ? Si oui produit-elle ce qu'on en attend, > à savoir que ce mot à cet endroit apparaît en gras dans l'index ? > \index{chose}{\bf Bidule} Ce que tu veux c'est plutôt \index{chose}{Bidule|textbf} Céline ---947846813-836305422-1220524721=:25043-- From - Thu Sep 4 12:51:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr (amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.2.202]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m84AoqDU070617 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:50:57 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr (tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.24.22]) by amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7/Configured by JE 21 07 2006) with ESMTP id m84AopdB053268 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:50:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEBEA5642F for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:50:51 +0200 (CEST) X-UJF-AV: Scanned on tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr Received: from tibre1.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre1.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.18.86]) by tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE9B5642B for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:50:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.15]) by tibre1.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/GB-Aout08) with ESMTP id m84AopnP081943 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:50:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from thierry.bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20795D2CE0 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:50:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr Received: from fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NAChMmNkw6U3 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:50:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from euclide.ujf-grenoble.fr (euclide.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.48.255.207]) by fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96A4D01CA for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:50:52 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:50:33 +0200 From: Thierry Bouche Organization: Institut Fourier X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <734525200.20080904125033@ujf-grenoble.fr> To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Quand doit on mettre \protect ? In-Reply-To: References: <48BED716.5070101@elzevir.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:50:57 +0200 (CEST) P> Sinon, pourquoi les commandes fragiles existent-elles ? Je n'ai vu P> cela dans aucun autre langage. expansion de macros, voilà le truc : dès que tex lit une macro, il commence son expansion, qui se passe en plusieurs étapes (joliment décrites par Knuth à l'aide d'une métaphore digestive que je trouve un peu écoeurante : la bouche, l'estomac... on se demande où on doit aller récupérer le fichier de sortie !) On trouve très bien de pouvoir écrire \message{Nous sommes sur la page \thepage} (et de ne pas voir la macro mais son résultat affiché) mais si on écrit \section{La section de la page \protect\thepage} on aimera peut-être moins voir le numéro de page courant s'afficher dans la TDM... Cette histoire de commandes fragiles est inhérente à la façon dont LaTeX gère les références croisées et tout un tas de choses en les écrivant dans un fichier auxiliaire, et à ce que TeX fait avec l'argument de \write... regarder un fichier aux ou toc pour comprendre qu'il est évidemment crucial que tout un tas de choses ne soient pas protégées (tous les \the** qui permettent d'écrire la valeur courante d'une variable, p. ex.) mais que c'est la responsabilité de l'utilisateur de déterminer le traitement correct de telle ou telle macro qu'il introduit dans des arguments mobiles... Thierry From - Thu Sep 4 12:56:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m84AuKVk072224 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:56:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from math.jussieu.fr (mail.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.55]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id m84AuKsP001456 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:56:20 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 166 Received: from [192.168.0.126] (elzevir.fr [88.165.216.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by math.jussieu.fr (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m84AuIKb008280 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 12:56:18 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48BFBED2.4070202@elzevir.fr> Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:56:18 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Manuel_P=E9gouri=E9-Gonnard?= User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Quand doit on mettre \protect ? 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B=0.002 -> S=0.002 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham Pierre Albarede scripsit (04.09.2008 12:14) > YAKA protéger systématiquement toutes les commandes dans leur définition. > > Est-ce que ça pourrait marcher ? > Presque. Il y a deux problèmes : > Il faudrait recompiler le format latex, pour les macro précompilées. > Oui, et patcher toutes les extensions qu'on utilise. On est pas rendus :-) Ceci dit, plutôt que de réécrire tout ça, on peut juste rendre les commandes qu'on veut robustes après coup, avec \MakeRobust de fixltx2e (qui rend lui-même robuste pas mal de commandes de LaTeX). Mais ça c'est le problème le moins grave. Le vrai problème technique, c'est qu'il y a deux façons d'être robustes : soit on l'est naturellement (par exemple, \arabic) soit on est artificiellement protégée (ex. \textbf). Et certaines commandes (comme par exemple \thepage ou tout autre \thecompteur) ont impérativement besoin d'être du premier type. En clair, \DeclareRobustCommand\thepage{\arabic{page}} casse toutes les références croisées (testé, c'est vrai). Par contre, il est théoriquement possible de faire en sorte que toutes les macros soient robustes, vu que les seules qu'on n'a pas le droit de protéger avec \protect, \MakeRobust ou autre sont celles qui sont déjà de toutes façons naturellement robustes et qui doivent le rester. (Petite « définition » rapide de « naturellement robuste » : je dis qu'une macro \truc est naturellement robuste (et je dirais commutative si je me laissais aller) si on peut écrire \edef\truc{\truc}\truc et que : 1. ça provoque pas d'erreur de compilation ; 2. ça donne le même résultat que si on avait écrit \truc. Ça n'est pas pareil que « purement développable » : exemple, le logo \TeX.) (Ah oui, et pour être complet il faut dire qu'elle ne doit pas être \protected au sens d'e-TeX.) > Est-ce ça aurait un effet sur la performance (temps-espace de calcul) ? > Si on la fait à la façon LaTeX2e, oui, ça aurait un effet. Sur la mémoire l'effet est assez clair : chaque macro « robustifiée » utilise en fait deux macros. C'est d'ailleurs historiquement ce qui explique que des macros fragiles aient été laissées sans protection. De nos jours, honnêtement, ça ne compte plus. Et puis, il y a une nouvelle façon de le faire, avec e-TeX (donc pdfTeX, XeTeX et LuaTeX) : le préfixe \protected. Exemple : \protected\def\truc{...} Avec ça, ça coute essentiellement rien de protéger une macro, et c'est *bien* plus simple que le \protect à la LaTeX2e. > Sinon, pourquoi les commandes fragiles existent-elles ? Je n'ai vu cela > dans aucun autre langage. Parce que TeX est un des seuls langages à ma connaissance à distinguer des phases de « développement » et « exécution » dans son traitement du source. Et que ces phases, qui sont le plus souvent concomitantes, sont parfois dissociées. Manuel. From - Thu Sep 4 13:16:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from phare.normalesup.org (phare.normalesup.org [129.199.129.80]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m84BGgBj079236 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 13:16:42 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: by phare.normalesup.org (Postfix, from userid 1008) id 77455BC08B; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 13:16:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 13:16:42 +0200 From: Arthur Reutenauer To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Quand doit on mettre \protect ? Message-ID: <20080904111636.GS21092@phare.normalesup.org> Reply-To: gut@ens.fr References: <48BED716.5070101@elzevir.fr> <734525200.20080904125033@ujf-grenoble.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <734525200.20080904125033@ujf-grenoble.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 04 Sep 2008 13:16:42 +0200 (CEST) > (joliment > décrites par Knuth à l'aide d'une métaphore digestive que je trouve un > peu écoeurante : la bouche, l'estomac... on se demande où on doit aller > récupérer le fichier de sortie !) Oui, c'est vraiment frappant qu'il ait utilisé cette image, comme s'il ne s'était pas rendu compte de ce qu'elle impliquait ! Ça n'est pas plus ragoûtant que de sortir toute la théorie des compilateurs :-) Arthur From - Thu Sep 4 21:51:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2a.orange.fr (smtp2a.orange.fr [80.12.242.139]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m84JovHp007170 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 21:51:02 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2a13.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 14426700008D for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 21:50:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (AToulouse-158-1-24-145.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.50.7.145]) by mwinf2a13.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EA79E700008A for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 21:50:56 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080904195056960.EA79E700008A@mwinf2a13.orange.fr Received: by localhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8EFDF56C79; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 21:50:56 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 21:50:56 +0200 From: Sebastien Mengin To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Quand doit on mettre \protect ? Message-ID: <20080904195056.GA10324@localhost.localdomain> References: <48BED716.5070101@elzevir.fr> <734525200.20080904125033@ujf-grenoble.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <734525200.20080904125033@ujf-grenoble.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:51:02 +0200 (CEST) Le 04 sep 2008 à 12:50, Thierry Bouche a écrit: > > P> Sinon, pourquoi les commandes fragiles existent-elles ? Je n'ai vu > P> cela dans aucun autre langage. > > expansion de macros, voilà le truc : dès que tex lit une macro, il > commence son expansion, qui se passe en plusieurs étapes (joliment > décrites par Knuth à l'aide d'une métaphore digestive que je trouve un > peu écoeurante : la bouche, l'estomac... on se demande où on doit aller > récupérer le fichier de sortie !) Dans les muscles, le cerveau et tout un tas de choses plutôt positivement connotées ! :) Avec cette métaphore, ce sont les fichiers .aux et consorts qui finissent aux toilettes... pas le fichier de sortie final. Cordialement, -- Sébastien http://edilibre.net From - Thu Sep 4 22:03:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.35]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m84K2tUx010502 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 22:03:06 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F13A1C77E7 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 22:02:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.124] (elzevir.fr [88.165.216.11]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 798FF1C75D8 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2008 22:02:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48C03EE8.5070101@elzevir.fr> Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:02:48 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Manuel_P=E9gouri=E9-Gonnard?= User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Quand doit on mettre \protect ? References: <48BED716.5070101@elzevir.fr> <734525200.20080904125033@ujf-grenoble.fr> <20080904195056.GA10324@localhost.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <20080904195056.GA10324@localhost.localdomain> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 OpenPGP: url=http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x50A89B42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:03:06 +0200 (CEST) Sebastien Mengin a écrit : >> expansion de macros, voilà le truc : dès que tex lit une macro, il >> commence son expansion, qui se passe en plusieurs étapes (joliment >> décrites par Knuth à l'aide d'une métaphore digestive que je trouve un >> peu écoeurante : la bouche, l'estomac... on se demande où on doit aller >> récupérer le fichier de sortie !) > > Dans les muscles, le cerveau et tout un tas de choses plutôt > positivement connotées ! :) > :-) On pourrait dire en effet que le fichier source est plein de nutriments, et que plus le source est bon, plus les poils de TeX seront brillants et soyeux (et le document agréable à lire, donc). > Avec cette métaphore, ce sont les fichiers .aux et consorts qui > finissent aux toilettes... pas le fichier de sortie final. > Euh, ce qui m'inquiète avec le fichier. aux, c'est qu'il est alternativement ingéré et... disons exgéré par TeX (pour éviter un autre mot). Et ça, dans la métaphore animale, ça me paraît pas très ragoûtant... Manuel. From - Fri Sep 5 09:09:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2e.orange.fr (smtp2e.orange.fr [80.12.242.112]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8579dHj056254 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:09:44 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2e11.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6879670000A4 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:09:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (AToulouse-158-1-24-145.w90-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.50.7.145]) by mwinf2e11.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4A2E070000A2 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:09:39 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080905070939303.4A2E070000A2@mwinf2e11.orange.fr Received: by localhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BDBE156C79; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:09:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:09:38 +0200 From: Sebastien Mengin To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Quand doit on mettre \protect ? Message-ID: <20080905070938.GB6225@localhost.localdomain> References: <48BED716.5070101@elzevir.fr> <734525200.20080904125033@ujf-grenoble.fr> <20080904195056.GA10324@localhost.localdomain> <48C03EE8.5070101@elzevir.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <48C03EE8.5070101@elzevir.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Sep 2008 09:09:44 +0200 (CEST) Le 04 sep 2008 à 10:02, Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard a écrit: > Sebastien Mengin a écrit : > >> expansion de macros, voilà le truc : dès que tex lit une macro, il > >> commence son expansion, qui se passe en plusieurs étapes (joliment > >> décrites par Knuth à l'aide d'une métaphore digestive que je trouve un > >> peu écoeurante : la bouche, l'estomac... on se demande où on doit aller > >> récupérer le fichier de sortie !) > > > > Dans les muscles, le cerveau et tout un tas de choses plutôt > > positivement connotées ! :) > > > :-) On pourrait dire en effet que le fichier source est plein de > nutriments, et que plus le source est bon, plus les poils de TeX seront > brillants et soyeux (et le document agréable à lire, donc). > > > Avec cette métaphore, ce sont les fichiers .aux et consorts qui > > finissent aux toilettes... pas le fichier de sortie final. > > > Euh, ce qui m'inquiète avec le fichier. aux, c'est qu'il est > alternativement ingéré et... disons exgéré par TeX (pour éviter un autre > mot). Et ça, dans la métaphore animale, ça me paraît pas très ragoûtant... C'est parce que Knuth est un arnaqueur : TeX n'est pas un lion, mais un ruminant ! -- Sébastien http://edilibre.net From - Fri Sep 5 09:24:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr (amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.2.202]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m857O1Vi061890 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:24:02 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr (tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.24.22]) by amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7/Configured by JE 21 07 2006) with ESMTP id m857O0R4010355 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:24:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C6F56467 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:24:00 +0200 (CEST) X-UJF-AV: Scanned on tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr Received: from tibre1.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre1.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.18.86]) by tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B8756456 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:24:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.15]) by tibre1.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/GB-Aout08) with ESMTP id m857O0SW007759 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:24:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from thierry.bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0D3D2BDB for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:24:03 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr Received: from fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xPljuM30pfky for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:24:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from euclide.ujf-grenoble.fr (euclide.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.48.255.207]) by fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4DECD06AB for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:24:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:23:41 +0200 From: Thierry Bouche Organization: Institut Fourier X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1044081822.20080905092341@ujf-grenoble.fr> To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Quand doit on mettre \protect ? In-Reply-To: <20080905070938.GB6225@localhost.localdomain> References: <48BED716.5070101@elzevir.fr> <734525200.20080904125033@ujf-grenoble.fr> <20080904195056.GA10324@localhost.localdomain> <48C03EE8.5070101@elzevir.fr> <20080905070938.GB6225@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Sep 2008 09:24:02 +0200 (CEST) Bonjour, Le vendredi 5 septembre 2008, vers 09:09:38, Sebastien Mengin écrivit : S> C'est parce que Knuth est un arnaqueur : TeX n'est pas un lion, mais un S> ruminant ! Meuh, si c'était vraiment un ruminant, il y aurait assez de passes successives pour nous éviter entièrement cette discussion... Thierry From - Fri Sep 5 09:47:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr ([80.12.242.1]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m857lbdR074632 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:47:47 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1904.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0829A1C0033B for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:47:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.148] (AToulouse-254-1-85-145.w86-201.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.201.244.145]) by mwinf1904.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B45841C00287 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:47:36 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080905074736738.B45841C00287@mwinf1904.orange.fr Message-ID: <48C0E41C.1090607@wanadoo.fr> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 09:47:40 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?SmVhbi1Dw7RtZSBDaGFycGVudGllcg==?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Quand doit on mettre \protect ? References: <48BED716.5070101@elzevir.fr> <734525200.20080904125033@ujf-grenoble.fr> <20080904195056.GA10324@localhost.localdomain> <48C03EE8.5070101@elzevir.fr> <20080905070938.GB6225@localhost.localdomain> <1044081822.20080905092341@ujf-grenoble.fr> In-Reply-To: <1044081822.20080905092341@ujf-grenoble.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Sep 2008 09:47:47 +0200 (CEST) Thierry Bouche a écrit : > Bonjour, Aaaah, une discussion comme je les aime :-) Salut ! > Le vendredi 5 septembre 2008, vers 09:09:38, Sebastien Mengin écrivit : > > S> C'est parce que Knuth est un arnaqueur : TeX n'est pas un lion, mais un > S> ruminant ! > > Meuh, si c'était vraiment un ruminant, il y aurait assez de passes > successives pour nous éviter entièrement cette discussion... En fait, Knuth parle bien de régurgitation pour des machins qui sont capables de faire l'aller-retour entre l'estomac et la bouche (ou l'Å“sophage, je ne me souviens plus exactement). En ce qui concerne la page de sortie, Knuth indique qu'il la vomit... en fait, il la vomit dans la version française -- ce qui a quelque peu interloqué l'éditeur -- si j'en crois mon dictionnaire et le niveau de langage indiqué, il la dégueule Jean-Côme Charpentier (proctologue TeXien) From - Fri Sep 5 12:00:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp.sfr.fr (smtp-out2.sfr.fr [160.92.187.251]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m85A0Sxl060843 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:00:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [10.131.9.59] (unknown [80.125.173.56]) by msfrf0101.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A58A7E002275 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:00:25 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20080905100025678.A58A7E002275@msfrf0101.sfr.fr Message-Id: <028BB28A-4554-434B-AC30-A85E9210B7B7@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: gut@ens.fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Bizarre bizarre Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:00:20 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:00:33 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m85A0Sxl060843 M'arrive un drôle de truc J'ai écris un livre, compilé, plusieurs index (3), tout va bien, pdf impeccable MAIS, je fais des modifs, en fait je rajoute dans les chapitres des indexations de mots. Je recompile, nib, les mots en question ne sont pas pris en compte dans les index. Je vérifie dans mes fichiers .idx, les mots en question y sont avec la page et tout et tout, mais rien de tout ça dans le nouveau pdf, il reste avec les index du début... Qu'en pensez vous ? Ivan From - Fri Sep 5 12:04:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from di.ens.fr (di.ens.fr [129.199.99.1]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m85A3tCr063701 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:03:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (ccheval@localhost) by di.ens.fr (8.13.6/jb-1.1) id m85A3oL0025368 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:03:50 +0200 X-Envelope-To: X-Authentication-Warning: di.ens.fr: ccheval owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:03:50 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?C=E9line_Chevalier?= X-X-Sender: ccheval@di.ens.fr To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Bizarre bizarre In-Reply-To: <028BB28A-4554-434B-AC30-A85E9210B7B7@orange.fr> Message-ID: References: <028BB28A-4554-434B-AC30-A85E9210B7B7@orange.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-947846813-484906818-1220609030=:17654" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:03:55 +0200 (CEST) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---947846813-484906818-1220609030=:17654 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Vérification bête: tu as juste compilé (latex) la deuxième fois, ou tu as bien pensé à regénérer le pdf (dvips+ps2pdf ou pdflatex) ? Céline On Fri, 5 Sep 2008, Ivan Lavallée wrote: > M'arrive un drôle de truc > J'ai écris un livre, compilé, plusieurs index (3), tout va bien, pdf > impeccable MAIS, je fais des modifs, en fait je rajoute dans les chapitres > des indexations de mots. Je recompile, nib, les mots en question ne sont pas > pris en compte dans les index. Je vérifie dans mes fichiers .idx, les mots en > question y sont avec la page et tout et tout, mais rien de tout ça dans le > nouveau pdf, il reste avec les index du début... > Qu'en pensez vous ? > Ivan ---947846813-484906818-1220609030=:17654-- From - Fri Sep 5 12:11:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from amazone1.ujf-grenoble.fr (amazone1.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.254]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m85ABLQq071998 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:11:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr (tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.24.22]) by amazone1.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7/Configured by JE 21 07 2006) with ESMTP id m85ABLjL025061 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:11:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BF2456467 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:11:21 +0200 (CEST) X-UJF-AV: Scanned on tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr Received: from tibre2.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre2.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.24.10]) by tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEED556442 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:11:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.15]) by tibre2.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/GB-Aout08) with ESMTP id m85ABKNi059583 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:11:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from thierry.bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154C4D015C for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:11:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr Received: from fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cvdQcJLdrou4 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:11:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: from euclide.ujf-grenoble.fr (euclide.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.48.255.207]) by fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E647CD00E7 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:11:20 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:11:01 +0200 From: Thierry Bouche Organization: Institut Fourier X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1969230833.20080905121101@ujf-grenoble.fr> To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Bizarre bizarre In-Reply-To: References: <028BB28A-4554-434B-AC30-A85E9210B7B7@orange.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:11:21 +0200 (CEST) Bonjour, Le vendredi 5 septembre 2008, vers 12:03:50, Céline Chevalier écrivit : C> Vérification bête: tu as juste compilé (latex) la deuxième fois, ou tu as C> bien pensé à regénérer le pdf (dvips+ps2pdf ou pdflatex) ? et à faire makeindex entre les deux ? ! From - Fri Sep 5 12:11:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp.sfr.fr (smtp-out2.sfr.fr [160.92.187.251]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m85ABMdv072023 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:11:28 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [10.131.9.59] (unknown [80.125.173.56]) by msfrf0103.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 94125E0015AF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:11:21 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20080905101121606.94125E0015AF@msfrf0103.sfr.fr Message-Id: <77616BB5-EB44-499F-9FE6-F3CC8B81C2F3@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Re: [gut] Bizarre bizarre Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:11:18 +0200 References: <028BB28A-4554-434B-AC30-A85E9210B7B7@orange.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:11:28 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m85ABMdv072023 Ben oui bien sûr, j'ai même poussé le bouchon jusqu'à changer le nom du fichier maître (celui qui appelle tous les autres), rien ne se passe, je récupère un pdf avec le nouveau nom mais mes modifs n'y sont pas... Ivan Le 5 sept. 08 à 12:03, Céline Chevalier a écrit : > > Vérification bête: tu as juste compilé (latex) la deuxième fois, ou > tu as bien pensé à regénérer le pdf (dvips+ps2pdf ou pdflatex) ? > > > Céline > > > On Fri, 5 Sep 2008, Ivan Lavallée wrote: > >> M'arrive un drôle de truc >> J'ai écris un livre, compilé, plusieurs index (3), tout va bien, >> pdf impeccable MAIS, je fais des modifs, en fait je rajoute dans >> les chapitres des indexations de mots. Je recompile, nib, les mots >> en question ne sont pas pris en compte dans les index. Je vérifie >> dans mes fichiers .idx, les mots en question y sont avec la page et >> tout et tout, mais rien de tout ça dans le nouveau pdf, il reste >> avec les index du début... >> Qu'en pensez vous ? >> Ivan > From - Fri Sep 5 12:14:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp.sfr.fr (smtp-out1.sfr.fr [160.92.187.254]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m85AE9lI073584 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:14:14 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [10.131.9.59] (unknown [80.125.173.56]) by msfrf0104.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BCAEFE004CEA for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:14:08 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20080905101408772.BCAEFE004CEA@msfrf0104.sfr.fr Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: <1969230833.20080905121101@ujf-grenoble.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Re: [gut] Bizarre bizarre X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:14:05 +0200 References: <028BB28A-4554-434B-AC30-A85E9210B7B7@orange.fr> <1969230833.20080905121101@ujf-grenoble.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:14:14 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m85AE9lI073584 Ben ouais j'ai fait ça, j'ai même poussé le bouchon jusqu'à changer le nom du fichier maître (celui qui appelle tous les autres), rien ne se passe, je récupère un pdf avec le nouveau nom mais mes modifs n'y sont pas... Ivan Le 5 sept. 08 à 12:11, Thierry Bouche a écrit : > > Bonjour, > > Le vendredi 5 septembre 2008, vers 12:03:50, Céline Chevalier > écrivit : > > > C> Vérification bête: tu as juste compilé (latex) la deuxième fois, > ou tu as > C> bien pensé à regénérer le pdf (dvips+ps2pdf ou pdflatex) ? > > et à faire makeindex entre les deux ? ! > > From - Fri Sep 5 12:25:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr (amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.2.202]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m85APQB2081000 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:25:27 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr (tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.18.74]) by amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7/Configured by JE 21 07 2006) with ESMTP id m85APQXA025976 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:25:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93F2256429 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:25:26 +0200 (CEST) X-UJF-AV: Scanned on tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr Received: from tibre2.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre2.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.24.10]) by tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 717695641E for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:25:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.15]) by tibre2.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/GB-Aout08) with ESMTP id m85APQFF060105 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:25:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from thierry.bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B4BD015C for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:25:26 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr Received: from fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FHRswfCVT+AQ for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:25:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from euclide.ujf-grenoble.fr (euclide.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.48.255.207]) by fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5804D00E7 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:25:26 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:25:08 +0200 From: Thierry Bouche Organization: Institut Fourier X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1192735343.20080905122508@ujf-grenoble.fr> To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Bizarre bizarre In-Reply-To: References: <028BB28A-4554-434B-AC30-A85E9210B7B7@orange.fr> <1969230833.20080905121101@ujf-grenoble.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:25:27 +0200 (CEST) I> Ben ouais j'ai fait ça, j'ai même poussé le bouchon jusqu'à changer le I> nom du fichier maître (celui qui appelle tous les autres), rien ne se I> passe, je récupère un pdf avec le nouveau nom mais mes modifs n'y sont I> pas... regarder les logs de makindex, à mon avis, ça peut juste venir d'une erreur de syntaxe (genre accolade en trop) et du coup makeindex ne produit rien et n'écrase même pas le vieux .ind ? regarder les dates des fichiers peut donner une indication... il faut lancer makeindex sur chaque fichier idx... Th. From - Fri Sep 5 13:05:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m85B5Fv4027223 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:05:15 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from math.jussieu.fr (mail.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.55]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id m85AcCMp023436 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:38:13 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 168 Received: from [192.168.0.126] (elzevir.fr [88.165.216.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by math.jussieu.fr (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m85AcB0X087584 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 12:38:11 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48C10C12.3060001@elzevir.fr> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:38:10 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Manuel_P=E9gouri=E9-Gonnard?= User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Bizarre bizarre References: <028BB28A-4554-434B-AC30-A85E9210B7B7@orange.fr> In-Reply-To: <028BB28A-4554-434B-AC30-A85E9210B7B7@orange.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/8166/Fri Sep 5 11:18:03 2008 on shiva.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94, clamav-milter version 0.94 on mail.math.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Miltered: at jchkmail.jussieu.fr with ID 48C10C15.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 48C10C15.002/134.157.13.55/mail.math.jussieu.fr/math.jussieu.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 48C10C15.002 on jchkmail.jussieu.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.027 -> S=0.027 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:05:15 +0200 (CEST) Ivan Lavallée scripsit (05.09.2008 12:00) > fichiers .idx, les mots en question y sont avec la page et tout et tout, Est-ce qu'après avoir lancé makeindex, le .ind contient aussi les nouvelles entrées ? Je serais de l'avais de Thierry, vérifier que makindex n'a pas eu de soucis. Manuel. From - Fri Sep 5 13:16:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp.sfr.fr (smtp-out1.sfr.fr [160.92.187.254]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m85BFrIk032782 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:15:58 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [10.131.9.59] (unknown [80.125.173.56]) by msfrf0102.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 280A8E001258 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:15:53 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20080905111553164.280A8E001258@msfrf0102.sfr.fr Message-Id: <4DAEB23E-8970-4218-BD63-72C85A177BD2@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: <48C10C12.3060001@elzevir.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Re: [gut] Bizarre bizarre Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:15:51 +0200 References: <028BB28A-4554-434B-AC30-A85E9210B7B7@orange.fr> <48C10C12.3060001@elzevir.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:15:58 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m85BFrIk032782 Et comment vérifier si makeindex a eu des soucis ?? Ivan Le 5 sept. 08 à 12:38, Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard a écrit : > > Ivan Lavallée scripsit (05.09.2008 12:00) >> fichiers .idx, les mots en question y sont avec la page et tout et >> tout, > > Est-ce qu'après avoir lancé makeindex, le .ind contient aussi les > nouvelles > entrées ? Je serais de l'avais de Thierry, vérifier que makindex n'a > pas eu de > soucis. > > Manuel. > From - Fri Sep 5 13:19:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp.sfr.fr (smtp-out1.sfr.fr [160.92.187.254]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m85BIojC033665 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:18:56 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [10.131.9.59] (unknown [80.125.173.56]) by msfrf0104.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 72D8EE004CFF for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:18:50 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20080905111850470.72D8EE004CFF@msfrf0104.sfr.fr Message-Id: <47E88882-2EB0-4A1D-A6FB-2159350B186B@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: <48C10C12.3060001@elzevir.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Re: [gut] Bizarre bizarre Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:18:47 +0200 References: <028BB28A-4554-434B-AC30-A85E9210B7B7@orange.fr> <48C10C12.3060001@elzevir.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:18:56 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m85BIojC033665 Non, l'idx contient bien les nouvelles entrées, mais pas le .ind... Ivan Le 5 sept. 08 à 12:38, Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard a écrit : > > Ivan Lavallée scripsit (05.09.2008 12:00) >> fichiers .idx, les mots en question y sont avec la page et tout et >> tout, > > Est-ce qu'après avoir lancé makeindex, le .ind contient aussi les > nouvelles > entrées ? Je serais de l'avais de Thierry, vérifier que makindex n'a > pas eu de > soucis. > > Manuel. > From - Fri Sep 5 13:24:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m85BOX2J035815 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:24:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from math.jussieu.fr (mail.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.55]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id m85BOW7M091996 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:24:32 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 165 Received: from [192.168.0.126] (elzevir.fr [88.165.216.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by math.jussieu.fr (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m85BOTEN094238 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:24:31 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48C116ED.6060704@elzevir.fr> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:24:29 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Manuel_P=E9gouri=E9-Gonnard?= User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Bizarre bizarre References: <028BB28A-4554-434B-AC30-A85E9210B7B7@orange.fr> <48C10C12.3060001@elzevir.fr> <47E88882-2EB0-4A1D-A6FB-2159350B186B@orange.fr> In-Reply-To: <47E88882-2EB0-4A1D-A6FB-2159350B186B@orange.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/8166/Fri Sep 5 11:18:03 2008 on shiva.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94, clamav-milter version 0.94 on mail.math.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:24:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.165]); Fri, 05 Sep 2008 13:24:32 +0200 (CEST) X-Miltered: at jchkmail2.jussieu.fr with ID 48C0FAF2.008 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 48C0FAF2.008/134.157.13.55/mail.math.jussieu.fr/math.jussieu.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 48C0FAF2.008 on jchkmail2.jussieu.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.018 -> S=0.018 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham Ivan Lavallée scripsit (05.09.2008 13:18) > Non, l'idx contient bien les nouvelles entrées, mais pas le .ind... Ce qui répond à ta question précédente et confirme l'hypothèse de Thierry : makeindex a visiblement eu des soucis. Sinon, le journal d'exécution de makeindex est le fichier .ilg : il doit contenir plus de détails sur ce qui s'est mal passé. Manuel. From - Fri Sep 5 14:40:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (smtp20.orange.fr [80.12.242.26]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m85CeQVs068667 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 14:40:32 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2027.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E04C51C00081 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 14:40:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (ACayenne-106-1-15-95.w90-31.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.31.126.95]) by mwinf2027.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4B3811C0009E for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 14:40:26 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080905124026308.4B3811C0009E@mwinf2027.orange.fr Message-ID: <48C128B7.1040606@wanadoo.fr> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 09:40:23 -0300 From: Aubry Christophe User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080725) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Barrer une cellule d'une croix Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Sep 2008 14:40:32 +0200 (CEST) Bonjour, Quelqu'un sait-il comment barrer d'une croix une cellule d'un tableau (tabular) sous LaTeX ? Merci. Cordialement. C. Aubry From - Fri Sep 5 15:03:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp.sfr.fr (smtp-out1.sfr.fr [160.92.187.254]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m85D3enE080850 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 15:03:45 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: X-SFR-UUID: 20080905130339515.7DBE1E001254@msfrf0102.sfr.fr Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: <48C116ED.6060704@elzevir.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Re: [gut] Bizarre bizarre Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 15:03:34 +0200 References: <028BB28A-4554-434B-AC30-A85E9210B7B7@orange.fr> <48C10C12.3060001@elzevir.fr> <47E88882-2EB0-4A1D-A6FB-2159350B186B@orange.fr> <48C116ED.6060704@elzevir.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:03:45 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m85D3enE080850 Si j'en crois ce que tu écris, et je n'ai pas de raison de n'y pas croire, aors il n'y a pas eu génération d'un nouveau fichier .ilg puisque celui que j'ai date du 2 sept. Ca devrait dire où se situe le bug. C'est râlant qd même cette mauvaise gestion des erreurs sous tex, ça nuit sérieusement à la diffusion du logiciel. Ivan Le 5 sept. 08 à 13:24, Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard a écrit : > > Ivan Lavallée scripsit (05.09.2008 13:18) >> Non, l'idx contient bien les nouvelles entrées, mais pas le .ind... > > Ce qui répond à ta question précédente et confirme l'hypothèse de > Thierry : > makeindex a visiblement eu des soucis. > > Sinon, le journal d'exécution de makeindex est le fichier .ilg : il > doit > contenir plus de détails sur ce qui s'est mal passé. > > Manuel. > From - Fri Sep 5 15:07:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp.sfr.fr (smtp-out1.sfr.fr [160.92.187.254]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m85D7TlE082876 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 15:07:34 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: X-SFR-UUID: 20080905130726998.185E9E001258@msfrf0102.sfr.fr Message-Id: <4B545FB6-27EE-4E99-8AF2-88C7DD51BB23@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: <48C116ED.6060704@elzevir.fr> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--352811035 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Re: [gut] Bizarre bizarre Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 15:07:21 +0200 References: <028BB28A-4554-434B-AC30-A85E9210B7B7@orange.fr> <48C10C12.3060001@elzevir.fr> <47E88882-2EB0-4A1D-A6FB-2159350B186B@orange.fr> <48C116ED.6060704@elzevir.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Sep 2008 15:07:34 +0200 (CEST) --Apple-Mail-4--352811035 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Voici ce que me dit le compilo, visiblement il n'arrive pas =E0 lire ce=20= =20 qu'il y a dans le fichier .idx, mais l message est plut=F4t sybillin... 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[193.252.22.30]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m85ENrdl024916 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 16:23:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2332.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8CA3D7000092 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 16:23:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.51] (APoitiers-155-1-154-106.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.97.106]) by mwinf2332.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 60D347000082 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 16:23:53 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080905142353396.60D347000082@mwinf2332.orange.fr Message-ID: <48C140F3.4020903@wanadoo.fr> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:23:47 +0200 From: pierre seigneur User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: GUTENBERG Subject: Espace avant ":" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:23:54 +0200 (CEST) Comment enlever l'espace que LaTeX ajoute systématiquement avant les deux points ? Merci. Pierre Seigneur From - Fri Sep 5 16:33:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp.sfr.fr (smtp-out2.sfr.fr [160.92.187.251]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m85EXW3j029980 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 16:33:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: X-SFR-UUID: 20080905143331627.991EEE00157D@msfrf0103.sfr.fr Message-Id: <22E859A4-EDAC-4766-AE21-E91623BE6D0A@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: <48C140F3.4020903@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Re: [gut] Espace avant ":" Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 16:33:29 +0200 References: <48C140F3.4020903@wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:33:38 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m85EXW3j029980 \hspace{-.2cm} Ivan Le 5 sept. 08 à 16:23, pierre seigneur a écrit : > > Comment enlever l'espace que LaTeX ajoute systématiquement avant les > deux points ? > Merci. > > Pierre Seigneur > > From - Fri Sep 5 16:50:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp21.orange.fr (smtp21.orange.fr [80.12.242.46]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m85Enr5R038523 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 16:49:58 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2103.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4AF5C1C00058 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 16:49:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (AToulouse-158-1-110-250.w90-38.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.38.165.250]) by mwinf2103.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3155A1C00095 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 16:49:53 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080905144953202.3155A1C00095@mwinf2103.orange.fr Received: by localhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id ABBEA56CAB; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 16:49:52 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 16:49:52 +0200 From: Sebastien Mengin To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Espace avant ":" Message-ID: <20080905144952.GA23774@localhost.localdomain> References: <48C140F3.4020903@wanadoo.fr> <22E859A4-EDAC-4766-AE21-E91623BE6D0A@orange.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <22E859A4-EDAC-4766-AE21-E91623BE6D0A@orange.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:49:58 +0200 (CEST) Le 05 sep 2008 à 04:33, Ivan Lavallée a écrit: > \hspace{-.2cm} > Ivan > Le 5 sept. 08 à 16:23, pierre seigneur a écrit : > > > > >Comment enlever l'espace que LaTeX ajoute systématiquement avant les > >deux points ? Si c'est pour les enlever systématiquement, on peut regarder du côté de la commande \shortandon/off{;:?!} dans frenchb.cfg. Localement, on peut faire \string: Cordialement, -- Sébastien http://edilibre.net From - Fri Sep 5 16:52:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (smtp20.orange.fr [80.12.242.27]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m85Epk7p039582 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 16:51:51 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2008.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 83CF51C000B1 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 16:51:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (ALille-251-1-18-246.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.208.246]) by mwinf2008.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 553181C00097 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 16:51:46 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080905145146349.553181C00097@mwinf2008.orange.fr From: "Yvon Henel (TdS)" To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Espace avant ":" Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 16:51:38 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 20070904.708012) References: <48C140F3.4020903@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <48C140F3.4020903@wanadoo.fr> X-Face: $1WU:${_MU*`jL~4Bj(E@3R_=Z9?SPQC:3=T/u-CPbGVM1vzFB'DS!_D)=?iso-8859-1?q?=266zsCxf=7DA=7BdL-=0A=09=7C*UbYq8J?="i#"Gv$`hZyMlk0+F$3N@0{44*/s.crcwRD2!U{VQ~? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart174379189.6nBcdgmsDR"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200809051651.44623.yvon.henel@orange.fr> X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:51:51 +0200 (CEST) --nextPart174379189.6nBcdgmsDR Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Le vendredi 5 septembre 2008, pierre seigneur a =E9crit=A0: > Comment enlever l'espace que LaTeX ajoute syst=E9matiquement avant les > deux points ? On va supposer que tu utilises [frenchb]{babel} Dans ce cas, plusieurs possibilit=E9s : 1/ =E9crire =AB \string: =BB au lieu de =AB : =BB 2/ dans un groupe si on veut garder l'effet local \shorthandoff{:}=20 puis on =E9crit tout simplement =AB : =BB=20 3/ sans faire de groupe mais d=E9limiter quand m=EAme : \shorthandoff{:} % ici ce que l'on veut avec des =AB : =BB qui ne mettent plus d'espace \shorthandon{:} % ici les deux points comme d'habitude. > Merci. De rien, jeq=E7a --=20 Yvon Henel, TeXnicien de surface --nextPart174379189.6nBcdgmsDR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBIwUeA7XZYcGKSgf4RAk6vAKDM6ak550fdV55N16HRLQ0Udimt9ACfSBLE 15e9ASC0LLQcnWaaW54XU20= =OxxL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart174379189.6nBcdgmsDR-- From - Fri Sep 5 17:06:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from mx2.univ-lille1.fr (mx2.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.20]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m85F5m1b046691 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:05:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from reserv1.univ-lille1.fr (root@reserv1.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.15]) by mx2.univ-lille1.fr (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id m85F5UCO001548 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:05:31 +0200 Received: from [192.168.0.3] (ble59-6-82-240-108-166.fbx.proxad.net [82.240.108.166]) (authenticated bits=0) by reserv1.univ-lille1.fr (8.13.7/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m85F5kEM018114 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:05:46 +0200 Message-ID: <48C14AC0.1090405@univ-lille1.fr> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:05:36 +0200 From: Daniel Flipo User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Espace avant ":" References: <48C140F3.4020903@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <48C140F3.4020903@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:05:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: Sender DNS name whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (mx2.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.20]); Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:05:31 +0200 (CEST) X-USTL-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-USTL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-USTL-MailScanner-From: daniel.flipo@univ-lille1.fr pierre seigneur a écrit le 05.09.2008 16:23 : > Comment enlever l'espace que LaTeX ajoute systématiquement avant les > deux points ? Ce n'est pas LaTeX mais l'extension babel/frenchb qui l'ajoute. Pour faire court, outre les pistes données par Yvon et Sébastien, on peut aussi ajouter dans le préambule \frenchbsetup{AutoSpacePunctuation=false} *et* être soigneux pour la saisie du texte : frenchb mettra un espace (insécable) devant le ':' et les trois autres (';' '!' '?') *uniquement* lorsqu'il y a un espace (sécable ou non) devant la double ponctuation. Le mieux serait de lire la doc disponible ne français ici : http://daniel.flipo.free.fr/frenchb -- Daniel Flipo From - Fri Sep 5 17:25:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.159]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m85FOjW6056063 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:24:50 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l27so843624fgb.21 for ; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 08:24:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=b+MdhrvUuThAn5y50ktvvDPVPPBXIfJ0c2iJn00zOyQ=; b=uhzrb9IpWGTz3204dWUccd8zw6pxQAIcfdBFY9uN6qcUABj9bjYeHAwoLqVdmIbFUD 63j3vEjNO/ZCVPxXTooCcFgsprKbR82CMWOp0NkIdiVY2RR4wDLOCZEan1einbtFflWx CFKtrtV/1N9Qs9yKywb0OwkmMc4s1fuIgh3io= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=EOJwgyjfxUIIc/2PwFEQpHng22y45U25Q27oc23szPigXXOBmsmNbk1YNsRXQy8Q7k Z2krA1tJcokbtzcGvKYOVG9FvwQggYaxVbtsykTvBcpdp4nDL7q3j75fFGLKANxYz55u RY1SE9Vx8RLrRBHqci3LCnhIX4E+QuzDuWgpg= Received: by 10.86.81.9 with SMTP id e9mr6365752fgb.17.1220628285247; Fri, 05 Sep 2008 08:24:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.2.125? ( [82.240.214.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d6sm1062620fga.2.2008.09.05.08.24.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 05 Sep 2008 08:24:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48C14F5F.5080102@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:25:19 +0200 From: "gdutheil@gmail.com" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: tableaux larges Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:24:50 +0200 (CEST) rebonjour, comme je ne sais pas si vous avez eu mon message (je ne reçois pas les messages que je poste sur la liste ...), je me permet de l'envoyer de nouveau. Bonjour à tous, A partir de résultats en statistiques je produis des tableaux avec plein de colonnes. Invariablement ils sortent de la page. Longtable gère la longueur du tableau pas sa largeur. Tabularx gère la largeur mais il va me faire des colonnes trop étroites(?). Comment pourrais-je faire pour que les colonnes passent automatiquement à la page suivante quand elles dépassent. Ce qui serait encore plus sympa, c'est qu'en allant à la page suivante la première colonne du tableau soit reprise. En espérant que vous aurez une idée. Merci Ghislain Actuellement mon code : \begin{table} \begin{center} \begin{tabular}{l*{52}{rr}} %le "l*{52}{rr}" est généré par le programme de statistique je ne sais pas trop ce qu'il vaut dire nom de variable& résultat 1&résultat 2& .....\\ nom de variable& résultat 1&résultat 2& .... \hline \small\textit{Source:} auto.dta \end{tabular} \end{center} \end{table} From - Fri Sep 5 17:30:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp23.orange.fr (smtp23.orange.fr [80.12.242.97]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m85FTxPY058507 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:30:05 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2356.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D341D7000096 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:29:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.51] (APoitiers-155-1-154-106.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.97.106]) by mwinf2356.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 94B557000090 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:29:59 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080905152959609.94B557000090@mwinf2356.orange.fr Message-ID: <48C15072.2020602@wanadoo.fr> Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:29:54 +0200 From: pierre seigneur User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Espace avant ":" References: <48C140F3.4020903@wanadoo.fr> <48C14AC0.1090405@univ-lille1.fr> In-Reply-To: <48C14AC0.1090405@univ-lille1.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:30:05 +0200 (CEST) Daniel Flipo a écrit : > > pierre seigneur a écrit le 05.09.2008 16:23 : > >> Comment enlever l'espace que LaTeX ajoute systématiquement avant les >> deux points ? > > Ce n'est pas LaTeX mais l'extension babel/frenchb qui l'ajoute. > > Pour faire court, outre les pistes données par Yvon et Sébastien, > on peut aussi ajouter dans le préambule > \frenchbsetup{AutoSpacePunctuation=false} *et* être soigneux pour la > saisie du texte : frenchb mettra un espace (insécable) devant le ':' > et les trois autres (';' '!' '?') *uniquement* lorsqu'il y a un espace > (sécable ou non) devant la double ponctuation. > > Le mieux serait de lire la doc disponible ne français ici : > http://daniel.flipo.free.fr/frenchb > Merci pour toutes ces réponses que je vais étudier pour voir si une me conviens. Je précise que j'utilise babel-français et que l'effet doit être local puisque c'est uniquement pour décrire les zone dans un tableur, par exemple C4:F5. From - Fri Sep 5 17:59:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp23.orange.fr (smtp23.orange.fr [80.12.242.97]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m85FwuHw071509 for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:59:01 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2308.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5C3901C0009A for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:58:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Fertel.home (ARennes-358-1-60-202.w90-49.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.49.251.202]) by mwinf2308.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3614C1C0008A for ; Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:58:56 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080905155856221.3614C1C0008A@mwinf2308.orange.fr Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jacques_Andr=E9?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: <48C14AC0.1090405@univ-lille1.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Re: [gut] Espace avant ":" Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:58:53 +0200 References: <48C140F3.4020903@wanadoo.fr> <48C14AC0.1090405@univ-lille1.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:59:01 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m85FwuHw071509 Le 5 sept. 2008 à 17:05, Daniel Flipo a écrit : > > Pour faire court, outre les pistes données par Yvon et Sébastien, > on peut aussi ajouter dans le préambule > \frenchbsetup{AutoSpacePunctuation=false} * Et, si c'est local, {\setlanguage{english}... nn: mmm..} => nn: mm -- Jacques ANDRÉ From - Sun Sep 7 17:36:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2a.orange.fr (smtp2a.orange.fr [80.12.242.140]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m87FZsqY081772 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2008 17:36:00 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2a17.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 74341700008F for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2008 17:35:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.51] (APoitiers-155-1-135-67.w81-50.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.50.6.67]) by mwinf2a17.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3BB997000081 for ; Sun, 7 Sep 2008 17:35:51 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080907153552244.3BB997000081@mwinf2a17.orange.fr Message-ID: <48C3F4D2.2090101@wanadoo.fr> Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2008 17:35:46 +0200 From: pierre seigneur User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Barrer une cellule d'une croix References: <48C128B7.1040606@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <48C128B7.1040606@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sun, 07 Sep 2008 17:36:00 +0200 (CEST) Aubry Christophe a écrit : > > Bonjour, > > Quelqu'un sait-il comment barrer d'une croix une cellule d'un tableau > (tabular) sous LaTeX ? > > Merci. > > Cordialement. > > C. Aubry > > > Peut-être là : http://www.grappa.univ-lille3.fr/FAQ-LaTeX/7.13.html P. Seigneur From - Mon Sep 8 10:59:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2a.orange.fr (smtp2a.orange.fr [80.12.242.140]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m888wmW9027781 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 10:58:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2a27.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 032AB70000AC for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 10:58:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [90.37.100.134] (AMarseille-157-1-93-134.w90-37.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.37.100.134]) by mwinf2a27.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B9EF270000A3 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 10:58:47 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080908085847761.B9EF270000A3@mwinf2a27.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Message-Id: <7667A230-76B5-46B5-A801-94248E2EB58A@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: gut@ens.fr From: "pir2.jv" Subject: mise en page dans un tableau Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 10:58:43 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 08 Sep 2008 10:58:53 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m888wmW9027781 Je ne sais pas faire la chose suivante qui ne doit pas être compliquée: J'ai un tableau dans lequel j'ai des textes dans une colonne et des images dans la deuxième colonne (je simplifie) Evidemment l'image est, par exemple de 5x5 cm Je voudrais que le texte de la première colonne soit centré en hauteur pour être au niveau du milieu de l'image. Si quelqu'un sait faire ? Merci d'avance |============| | | | texte | | | |============| Jacques Vernin From - Mon Sep 8 11:04:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr (amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.2.202]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m88940Mm030235 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 11:04:01 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr (tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.24.22]) by amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7/Configured by JE 21 07 2006) with ESMTP id m88940IQ059642 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 11:04:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F5356475 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 11:04:00 +0200 (CEST) X-UJF-AV: Scanned on tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr Received: from tibre1.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre1.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.18.86]) by tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A61AE56453 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 11:04:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.15]) by tibre1.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/GB-Aout08) with ESMTP id m88940Oc069708 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 11:04:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from thierry.bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF40D2CCE for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 11:04:02 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr Received: from fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id I+Xb5lBZKKUL for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 11:04:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from euclide.ujf-grenoble.fr (euclide.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.48.255.207]) by fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB38D2CC2 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 11:04:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 11:03:40 +0200 From: Thierry Bouche Organization: Institut Fourier X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1649584.20080908110340@ujf-grenoble.fr> To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] mise en page dans un tableau In-Reply-To: <7667A230-76B5-46B5-A801-94248E2EB58A@wanadoo.fr> References: <7667A230-76B5-46B5-A801-94248E2EB58A@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 08 Sep 2008 11:04:01 +0200 (CEST) Bonjour, Le lundi 8 septembre 2008, vers 10:58:43, pir2.jv écrivit : pj> Je ne sais pas faire la chose suivante qui ne doit pas être compliquée: pj> J'ai un tableau dans lequel j'ai des textes dans une colonne et des pj> images dans la deuxième colonne (je simplifie) pj> Evidemment l'image est, par exemple de 5x5 cm pj> Je voudrais que le texte de la première colonne soit centré en pj> hauteur pour être au niveau du milieu de l'image. pj> Si quelqu'un sait faire ? regarder la spécification de cellule m dans array.sty (s'utilise comme p) Cordialement, Thierry From - Mon Sep 8 12:38:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m88AcfXJ074044 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 12:38:47 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Kce8c-0007FB-E5 for gut@ens.fr; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 10:38:30 +0000 Received: from dmn19.ec-nantes.fr ([130.66.111.19]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 10:38:30 +0000 Received: from giggzounet by dmn19.ec-nantes.fr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 10:38:30 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gut@ens.fr From: GiGGz Subject: Moyen de faire le oe automatiquement ? Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 12:38:22 +0200 Lines: 10 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: dmn19.ec-nantes.fr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) Sender: news X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 08 Sep 2008 12:38:47 +0200 (CEST) Bonjour, je me demandais s'il n'y avais pas un moyen qu'un o suivi d'un e entraine directement le œ sous latex ? je suis un peu fainéant, je n'ai pas envie de remplacer tous les oe par {\oe}... z'avez une idée ? Merci d'avance et bonne journée Guillaume From - Mon Sep 8 13:04:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2e.orange.fr (smtp2e.orange.fr [80.12.242.113]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m88B4Hge085526 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:04:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2e27.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0C0267000090 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:04:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Fertel.home (ARennes-358-1-70-178.w90-54.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.54.13.178]) by mwinf2e27.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D9679700008A for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:04:16 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080908110416890.D9679700008A@mwinf2e27.orange.fr Message-Id: <1E5410DD-5736-42E9-81BA-2BAF4BE101D4@orange.fr> From: =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Jacques_Andr=E9?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Re: [gut] Moyen de faire le oe automatiquement ? Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:04:16 +0200 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:04:22 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m88B4Hge085526 Le 8 sept. 2008 à 12:38, GiGGz a écrit : > > Bonjour, > > je me demandais s'il n'y avais pas un moyen qu'un o suivi d'un e > entraine directement le œ sous latex ? je suis un peu fainéant, je > n'ai pas envie de remplacer tous les oe par {\oe}... y compris coercitif et Goethe ? -- Jacques ANDRÉ From - Mon Sep 8 13:06:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from briaree.onecert.fr (briaree.onecert.fr [134.212.190.4]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m88B5tCS086255 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:06:00 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from neree.onecert.fr (thetis.onecert.fr [134.212.178.12]) by briaree.onecert.fr (8.14.1/8.14.1/ONERA-SRI) with ESMTP id m88B5n6L021576 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:05:49 +0200 Received: from neree.onecert.fr (thetis.antiviral [127.0.0.1]) by neree.onecert.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/ONERA-SRI) with ESMTP id m88B5nYB020696 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:05:49 +0200 Received: from atoll.onecert.fr (atoll.onecert.fr [134.212.90.5]) by neree.onecert.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/ONERA-SRI) with ESMTP id m88B5nX2020691 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:05:49 +0200 Received: from atoll.onecert.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by atoll.onecert.fr (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/ONERA-SRI) with ESMTP id m88B5nwP024373 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:05:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from drucbert@localhost) by atoll.onecert.fr (8.13.4+Sun/8.13.3/Submit) id m88B5nq1024372 for gut@ens.fr; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:05:49 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:05:49 +0200 (CEST) From: Jean-Pierre Drucbert Message-Id: <200809081105.m88B5nq1024372@atoll.onecert.fr> To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Moyen de faire le oe automatiquement ? X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:06:00 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (briaree.onecert.fr [134.212.190.4]); Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:05:50 +0200 (CEST) Bonjour, Vous disiez: >> je me demandais s'il n'y avais pas un moyen qu'un o suivi d'un e >> entraine directement le sous latex ? je suis un peu fainéant, je n'ai >> pas envie de remplacer tous les oe par {\oe}... mais il y a des tas de mots où les lettres o et e sont juxtaposées sasn former la ligature oe (de oeil): par exemple, Boeing, coenzyme, coempereur, coexistant, coercitif, etc. Donc l'automatisation me semble un peu risquée. Jean-Pierre -- Jean-Pierre F. Drucbert (JPFD) Email: jean-pierre dot drucbert at onera dot fr ONERA/DCMP/SRI Tél. 05-62-25-25-15; FAX: 05-62-25-25-35 2, avenue Edouard Belin / B.P. 74025 / 31055 - TOULOUSE CEDEX 4 Look to windward: life never ceases to surprise. Avertissement/disclaimer http://www.onera.fr/onera-en/emails-terms From - Mon Sep 8 13:06:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from salsa.ec-nantes.fr (salsa.ec-nantes.fr [130.66.33.3]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m88B6fNc086545 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:06:46 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by salsa.ec-nantes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC750672B for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:06:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from salsa.ec-nantes.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (salsa [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20264-06 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:06:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from boromir.ec-nantes.fr (boromir.ec-nantes.fr [130.66.240.5]) by salsa.ec-nantes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27C2E6798 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:06:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dmn19.ec-nantes.fr (dmn19.ec-nantes.fr [130.66.111.19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by boromir.ec-nantes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id F27FA4C5DD for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:06:25 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48C50731.2050304@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:06:25 +0200 From: GiGGz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Moyen de faire le oe automatiquement ? References: <1E5410DD-5736-42E9-81BA-2BAF4BE101D4@orange.fr> In-Reply-To: <1E5410DD-5736-42E9-81BA-2BAF4BE101D4@orange.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-CentraleNantes-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at ec-nantes.fr X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:06:46 +0200 (CEST) Jacques André a écrit : > > Le 8 sept. 2008 à 12:38, GiGGz a écrit : > >> >> Bonjour, >> >> je me demandais s'il n'y avais pas un moyen qu'un o suivi d'un e >> entraine directement le œ sous latex ? je suis un peu fainéant, je >> n'ai pas envie de remplacer tous les oe par {\oe}... > > y compris coercitif et Goethe ? bon c'est vrai qu'il faut que je fasse attention à ça...mais bon vu le sujet de ma thèse...je parle po de Goethe...alors...si tu as une idée, je prends, sinon emacs va faire du remplacement! > > -- > Jacques ANDRÉ > > > > From - Mon Sep 8 13:09:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m88B9TJ1087505 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:09:35 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l27so1539471fgb.21 for ; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 04:09:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=s1YNqS7p3SkaAuTu8WrVE5PCUlb1f+RcBiQNzXH1z9s=; b=n+OSSn9zZcUcU/c97RQ8aK46aaAbsvx3sxTdoiViZ7ME5Up1C2RB+S331K2+gFt1FY lYp5PScJUcFdJVzLiGnU6/6zDaf0LCgKpkhFasYmnMCczowTApsiN8cUE9pKPp56iLUn rfl7jfWJuyANa9GLmUvbBSuIqFvwa0LsFq2n4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=pbTOJtd6C93EMxQQrGprI6VKCoUoRN919nXS2UczOYmYULalZkvFRZmcvPeElgLXgx Akya+bRLx7eydyv+uECQ5yAFQVZXYNvUioCF0Ge+2M4TWSsKSm9RJUb32ELlP7vBZVVh M9H3n2mp4mqbqz6Cr4K73CQjihIE+5YszkNCM= Received: by 10.86.97.7 with SMTP id u7mr11205678fgb.29.1220872169170; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 04:09:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.50.19 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 04:09:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:09:29 +0200 From: "Romain Vanel" To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Moyen de faire le oe automatiquement ? In-Reply-To: <48C50731.2050304@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_9389_31014575.1220872169181" References: <1E5410DD-5736-42E9-81BA-2BAF4BE101D4@orange.fr> <48C50731.2050304@gmail.com> X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:09:35 +0200 (CEST) ------=_Part_9389_31014575.1220872169181 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Salut, sinon, c'est l'affaire d'un sed 's/oe/\\oe/g' xxxx.tex bonne journ=E9e rv Le 8 septembre 2008 13:06, GiGGz a =E9crit : > Jacques Andr=E9 a =E9crit : > > >> Le 8 sept. 2008 =E0 12:38, GiGGz a =E9crit : >> >> >>> Bonjour, >>> >>> je me demandais s'il n'y avais pas un moyen qu'un o suivi d'un e entrai= ne >>> directement le =9C sous latex ? je suis un peu fain=E9ant, je n'ai pas = envie de >>> remplacer tous les oe par {\oe}... >>> >> >> y compris coercitif et Goethe ? >> > > bon c'est vrai qu'il faut que je fasse attention =E0 =E7a...mais bon vu le > sujet de ma th=E8se...je parle po de Goethe...alors...si tu as une id=E9e= , je > prends, sinon emacs va faire du remplacement! > > >> -- >> Jacques ANDR=C9 >> >> >> >> >> > ------=_Part_9389_31014575.1220872169181 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline ------=_Part_9389_31014575.1220872169181-- From - Mon Sep 8 13:12:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from salsa.ec-nantes.fr (salsa.ec-nantes.fr [130.66.33.3]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m88BC9cW088838 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:12:14 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by salsa.ec-nantes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B2DD66C4 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:12:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from salsa.ec-nantes.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (salsa [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20690-07 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:12:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from boromir.ec-nantes.fr (boromir.ec-nantes.fr [130.66.240.5]) by salsa.ec-nantes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC2376791 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:12:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dmn19.ec-nantes.fr (dmn19.ec-nantes.fr [130.66.111.19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by boromir.ec-nantes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B554C5D4 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:11:59 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48C5087F.6070406@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:11:59 +0200 From: GiGGz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Moyen de faire le oe automatiquement ? References: <200809081105.m88B5nq1024372@atoll.onecert.fr> In-Reply-To: <200809081105.m88B5nq1024372@atoll.onecert.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-CentraleNantes-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at ec-nantes.fr X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:12:14 +0200 (CEST) Jean-Pierre Drucbert a écrit : > Bonjour, > > Vous disiez: >>> je me demandais s'il n'y avais pas un moyen qu'un o suivi d'un e >>> entraine directement le sous latex ? je suis un peu fainéant, je n'ai >>> pas envie de remplacer tous les oe par {\oe}... > > mais il y a des tas de mots où les lettres o et e sont juxtaposées sasn former > la ligature oe (de oeil): par exemple, Boeing, coenzyme, coempereur, coexistant, > coercitif, etc. Donc l'automatisation me semble un peu risquée. > > Jean-Pierre > > Bon d'accord je vais faire du remplacement... sed est à mon gout trop risqué, car j'ai des oe dans mes \ref{} aussi. mais je garde la ligne sous la main... merci de votre réactivité à tous From - Mon Sep 8 13:39:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp.sfr.fr (smtp-out1.sfr.fr [160.92.187.254]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m88Bcs1W021018 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:38:59 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [IPv6???1] (unknown [91.69.64.189]) by msfrf0102.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 37602E001254 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:38:53 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20080908113853226.37602E001254@msfrf0102.sfr.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <595D6EA0-3898-4818-9853-6C0C825C7177@free.fr> From: Pierre Albarede Subject: Re: [gut] Moyen de faire le oe automatiquement ? Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:38:34 +0200 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:38:59 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m88Bcs1W021018 Bonjor, On 8 sept. 08, at 12:38, GiGGz wrote: > > je me demandais s'il n'y avais pas un moyen qu'un o suivi d'un e > entraine directement le œ sous latex ? je suis un peu fainéant, je > n'ai pas envie de remplacer tous les oe par {\oe}... > \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} oe liés est normalement accessible sur les claviers français sur le mien : alt - o Pierre Albarède, A rés. Valvert, 12 r. Fourane, 13090 Aix en Provence 0621991460 From - Mon Sep 8 13:41:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from salsa.ec-nantes.fr (salsa.ec-nantes.fr [130.66.33.3]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m88BfKTC024924 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:41:25 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by salsa.ec-nantes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32A4A67E8 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:41:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from salsa.ec-nantes.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (salsa [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 24132-04 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:41:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from boromir.ec-nantes.fr (boromir.ec-nantes.fr [130.66.240.5]) by salsa.ec-nantes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2C5167E3 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:41:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dmn19.ec-nantes.fr (dmn19.ec-nantes.fr [130.66.111.19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by boromir.ec-nantes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185134C61C for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:41:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48C50F54.5070503@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:41:08 +0200 From: GiGGz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Moyen de faire le oe automatiquement ? References: <595D6EA0-3898-4818-9853-6C0C825C7177@free.fr> In-Reply-To: <595D6EA0-3898-4818-9853-6C0C825C7177@free.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-CentraleNantes-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at ec-nantes.fr X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:41:25 +0200 (CEST) Pierre Albarede a écrit : > Bonjor, > > On 8 sept. 08, at 12:38, GiGGz wrote: >> >> je me demandais s'il n'y avais pas un moyen qu'un o suivi d'un e >> entraine directement le œ sous latex ? je suis un peu fainéant, je >> n'ai pas envie de remplacer tous les oe par {\oe}... >> > > \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} > > oe liés est normalement accessible sur les claviers français > sur le mien : alt - o ok chez moi : windows + o + e merci du conseil From - Mon Sep 8 17:22:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (smtp5-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.35]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m88FM88S032493 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 17:22:14 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E731C74CC for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 17:22:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.124] (elzevir.fr [88.165.216.11]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 132091C737A for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2008 17:22:06 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48C5431B.4040406@elzevir.fr> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 17:22:03 +0200 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Manuel_P=E9gouri=E9-Gonnard?= User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Moyen de faire le oe automatiquement ? References: <595D6EA0-3898-4818-9853-6C0C825C7177@free.fr> In-Reply-To: <595D6EA0-3898-4818-9853-6C0C825C7177@free.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 OpenPGP: url=http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x50A89B42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 08 Sep 2008 17:22:14 +0200 (CEST) Pierre Albarede a écrit : > \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} > Au passage, latin9 suffit pour avoir œ (et c'est la touche avec le ² dessus chez moi). Manuel. From - Tue Sep 9 11:54:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp27.orange.fr (smtp27.orange.fr [80.12.242.95]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m899rph2057705 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 11:54:02 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2712.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7ED131C00044 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 11:53:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [90.37.89.43] (AMarseille-157-1-82-43.w90-37.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.37.89.43]) by mwinf2712.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 37D481C000BC for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 11:53:51 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080909095351228.37D481C000BC@mwinf2712.orange.fr In-Reply-To: <1649584.20080908110340@ujf-grenoble.fr> References: <7667A230-76B5-46B5-A801-94248E2EB58A@wanadoo.fr> <1649584.20080908110340@ujf-grenoble.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <8204A336-C883-49D6-8C14-426D010AF854@wanadoo.fr> From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: [gut] mise en page dans un tableau Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 11:53:47 +0200 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 09 Sep 2008 11:54:02 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m899rph2057705 Le 8 sept. 08 à 11:03, Thierry Bouche a écrit : > > Bonjour, > > Le lundi 8 septembre 2008, vers 10:58:43, pir2.jv écrivit : > > pj> Je ne sais pas faire la chose suivante qui ne doit pas être > compliquée: > > pj> J'ai un tableau dans lequel j'ai des textes dans une colonne et > des > pj> images dans la deuxième colonne (je simplifie) > pj> Evidemment l'image est, par exemple de 5x5 cm > pj> Je voudrais que le texte de la première colonne soit centré en > pj> hauteur pour être au niveau du milieu de l'image. > pj> Si quelqu'un sait faire ? > > > regarder la spécification de cellule m dans array.sty > (s'utilise comme p) > > Cordialement, > Thierry > > Impeccable. Merci. J'ai mis un moment pour comprendre que c'était dans la deuxième colonne qu'il fallait mettre le m et non dans la première!!! Merci encore. Jacques Vernin From - Tue Sep 9 12:00:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp27.orange.fr (smtp27.orange.fr [80.12.242.95]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m89A0K8c064999 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:00:26 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2712.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 277611C000A3 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:00:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [90.37.89.43] (AMarseille-157-1-82-43.w90-37.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.37.89.43]) by mwinf2712.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E81DD1C0009E for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:00:19 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080909100019950.E81DD1C0009E@mwinf2712.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: gut@ens.fr From: "pir2.jv" Subject: plus grand que \Huge Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:00:15 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 09 Sep 2008 12:00:26 +0200 (CEST) Existe-t-il plus grand que \Huge ??? Jacques Vernin From - Tue Sep 9 12:13:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (smtp5-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.35]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m89ADGqt073022 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:13:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B4E1C7220 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:13:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.124] (elzevir.fr [88.165.216.11]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C6401C73DB for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:13:15 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48C64C3A.2090105@elzevir.fr> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 12:13:14 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Manuel_P=E9gouri=E9-Gonnard?= User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] plus grand que \Huge References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 OpenPGP: url=http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x50A89B42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 09 Sep 2008 12:13:21 +0200 (CEST) pir2.jv a écrit : > Existe-t-il plus grand que \Huge ??? > Oui. Manuel. PS : ah, peut-être que c'était pas juste une question d'existence... dans ce cas, disons : {\fontsize{60}{72}\selectfont Mon texte en corps 60, interligne 72. \par} From - Tue Sep 9 12:15:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp.sfr.fr (smtp-out1.sfr.fr [160.92.187.254]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m89AEx7r073878 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:15:04 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [IPv6???1] (unknown [91.69.64.189]) by msfrf0102.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 90DC3E001262 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:14:58 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20080909101458593.90DC3E001262@msfrf0102.sfr.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: From: Pierre Albarede Subject: Re: [gut] plus grand que \Huge Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:14:38 +0200 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 09 Sep 2008 12:15:04 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m89AEx7r073878 Salut, On 9 sept. 08, at 12:00, pir2.jv wrote: > Existe-t-il plus grand que \Huge ??? > Essayer \scalebox dans l'environnement picture, avec l'extension graphics. J'espère que le texte sera magnifié. Sans garantie. Pierre Albarède, A rés. Valvert, 12 r. Fourane, 13090 Aix en Provence 0621991460 From - Tue Sep 9 12:26:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp28.orange.fr (smtp28.orange.fr [80.12.242.99]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m89AQXe8078574 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:26:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2801.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CB2357000093 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:26:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.148] (AToulouse-254-1-66-142.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.49.77.142]) by mwinf2801.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7DDB67000086 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 12:26:33 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080909102633515.7DDB67000086@mwinf2801.orange.fr Message-ID: <48C64F6A.7090708@wanadoo.fr> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 12:26:50 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-C=F4me_Charpentier?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] plus grand que \Huge References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 09 Sep 2008 12:26:39 +0200 (CEST) pir2.jv a écrit : > > Existe-t-il plus grand que \Huge ??? Pas par défaut dans les classes standard mais ce n'est pas très dur de ce bricoler son propre truc. Sachant qu'on a (avec un corps de fonte de base de 10pt) : ... \newcommand\Large{\@setfontsize \Large \@xivpt {18}} \newcommand\LARGE{\@setfontsize \LARGE \@xviipt {22}} \newcommand\huge{\@setfontsize\huge\@xxpt{25}} \newcommand\Huge{\@setfontsize \Huge \@xxvpt {30}} sachant que les \pt ne vont que jusqu'à \@xxvpt et, contrairement à ce qu'on pourrait croire de prime abord est une macro dont la définition est très exactement 24.88 (donc pas 25 et pas de pt à la fin), et sachant que si on veut respecter le principe sous-jacent, les suites de macros donnent une suite (une vraie, une mathématique) géométrique de raison 1,2, on aura : 10 - 12 - 14.4 - 17.28 - 20.736 - 24.8832 - 29.85984 - 35.83181 (à partir de maintenant, j'arrondis à 5 chiffres après la virgule) - 42.99817, 51,59780, 61.91736 (je laisse le lecteur attentif continuer) qui donnera : \newcommand\HUGE{\@setfontsize \Huge{29.85954}{35}} \newcommand\morethanhuge{\@setfontsize \morethanhuge \Huge{29.85954}{35}} \newcommand\Morethanhuge{\@setfontsize \Morethanhuge \Huge{35.83181}{43}} \newcommand\MoreThanHuge{\@setfontsize \MoreThanHuge \Huge{42.99817}{52}} \newcommand\MORETHANHUGE{\@setfontsize \MORETHANHUGE \Huge{51,59780}{62}} Jean-Côme Charpentier From - Tue Sep 9 13:33:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (smtp20.orange.fr [193.252.22.29]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m89BXZqB004656 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 13:33:35 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2017.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 07D901C0012D for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 13:33:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [90.36.209.141] (AMarseille-157-1-6-141.w90-36.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.36.209.141]) by mwinf2017.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BC9C41C000C9 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 13:33:34 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080909113334772.BC9C41C000C9@mwinf2017.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6DA2CC1E-2991-4957-A9B4-56F201AFD70C@wanadoo.fr> From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: [gut] plus grand que \Huge Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 13:33:30 +0200 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 09 Sep 2008 13:33:35 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m89BXZqB004656 Le 9 sept. 08 à 12:14, Pierre Albarede a écrit : > > Salut, > > On 9 sept. 08, at 12:00, pir2.jv wrote: > >> Existe-t-il plus grand que \Huge ??? >> > > > Essayer \scalebox dans l'environnement picture, avec l'extension > graphics. > J'espère que le texte sera magnifié. > Sans garantie. > Oui! merci, cela marche très bien, mais on peut l'utiliser ailleurs que dans l'environnement picture, semble-t-il. Cordialement > Jacques Vernin From - Tue Sep 9 13:40:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2e.orange.fr (smtp2e.orange.fr [80.12.242.113]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m89Bdm4O006924 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 13:39:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2e17.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EE2A1700008B for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 13:39:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Fertel.home (ARennes-358-1-70-178.w90-54.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.54.13.178]) by mwinf2e17.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C3A927000087 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 13:39:45 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080909113945801.C3A927000087@mwinf2e17.orange.fr Message-Id: <8DFC3299-3844-478F-B9CC-051BADFDEB91@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jacques_Andr=E9?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Re: [gut] plus grand que \Huge Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 13:39:45 +0200 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 09 Sep 2008 13:39:53 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m89Bdm4O006924 Le 9 sept. 2008 à 12:00, pir2.jv a écrit : > > Existe-t-il plus grand que \Huge ??? Si vous avez une fonte comme Times, Palatino ou Fourier : {\fontsize{30}{30}\selectfont % 30 ou la valeur que vous voulez... corps | interligne ABC} -- Jacques ANDRÉ From - Tue Sep 9 14:56:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp28.orange.fr (smtp28.orange.fr [80.12.242.101]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m89CuQv5039694 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 14:56:31 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2822.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2B07A70000BA for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 14:56:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (AVelizy-153-1-46-140.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.249.93.140]) by mwinf2822.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D19DE70000B1 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 14:56:25 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080909125625858.D19DE70000B1@mwinf2822.orange.fr Message-Id: <587854BE-8619-47D2-8B59-573D49996A88@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Fritz?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Re: [gut] plus grand que \Huge Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 14:56:25 +0200 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 09 Sep 2008 14:56:31 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m89CuQv5039694 Le 9 sept. 08 à 12:00, pir2.jv a écrit : > > Existe-t-il plus grand que \Huge ??? > > Jacques Vernin > > Il existe aussi un fichier de style monster2e.sty % monster.clo % % Gigantic fonts, intended for posters. This version for LaTeX2e % % The new font sizes are: % % \HUGE 30pt characters 36pt \baselineskip % \monster 43pt characters 52pt \baselineskip % \Monster 62pt characters 75pt \baselineskip % \MONSTER 89pt characters 107pt \baselineskip % \screamer 128pt characters 154pt \baselineskip % \Screamer 185pt characters 222pt \baselineskip % \SCREAMER 266pt characters 319pt \baselineskip % % Harry Payne Internet: payne@stsci.edu % Space Telescope Science Institute SPAN: SCIVAX::PAYNE (6549::PAYNE) % 3700 San Martin Drive Phone: (410) 338-4539 % Baltimore, MD 21218 ICBM: 76 37' 30"W 39 20' 00"N % René Fritz From - Tue Sep 9 18:49:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from relay-dv.club-internet.fr (relay-dv.club-internet.fr [194.158.96.208]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m89Gn1de052941 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 18:49:06 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from magellan (did75-5-87-91-253-47.dsl.club-internet.fr [87.91.253.47]) by relay-dv.club-internet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E4092560F for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 18:49:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: by magellan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EC5BDEDCC1; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 18:48:59 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 18:48:59 +0200 From: Philippe Delavalade To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] plus grand que \Huge Message-ID: <20080909164859.GA4296@club-internet.fr> References: <587854BE-8619-47D2-8B59-573D49996A88@orange.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <587854BE-8619-47D2-8B59-573D49996A88@orange.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:49:06 +0200 (CEST) Bonjour. Le mardi 09 septembre à 14:56, René Fritz a écrit : > Il existe aussi un fichier de style monster2e.sty > > % monster.clo > % > % Gigantic fonts, intended for posters. This version for LaTeX2e > % > % The new font sizes are: > % > % \HUGE 30pt characters 36pt \baselineskip > % \monster 43pt characters 52pt \baselineskip > % \Monster 62pt characters 75pt \baselineskip > % \MONSTER 89pt characters 107pt \baselineskip > % \screamer 128pt characters 154pt \baselineskip > % \Screamer 185pt characters 222pt \baselineskip > % \SCREAMER 266pt characters 319pt \baselineskip > % > % Harry Payne Internet: payne@stsci.edu > % Space Telescope Science Institute SPAN: SCIVAX::PAYNE > (6549::PAYNE) > % 3700 San Martin Drive Phone: (410) 338-4539 > % Baltimore, MD 21218 ICBM: 76 37' 30"W 39 20' 00"N > % Ça m'intéresse beaucoup mais je n'ai pas trouvé sur CTAN. Ai-je mal cherché ? Et dans la négative, où peut-on trouver ce « montre » ? Merci d'avance Ph. Delavalade From - Tue Sep 9 19:00:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.29]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m89H0WZM057930 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:00:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 3so1135132yxj.79 for ; Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:00:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4m0NH/9EPqGRDT36cr0HFjn2+Qqn+LC8llQXA3rxZto=; b=DD8oXWktFetqzH4XTZz71jWsCGFmNUFLoK4Dyve6hDsjqgUgMe40yHa2e+bRqqINqO bfV1ZmH3KCGIyi38wsluXKCmgg/As/DIrwxirZ7aZGN/TyyQsTqi9sn5YdudEL4bMETe MOOKUZiy+BhmsiPF2sgSO5kWEazXwnTnFb/E0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=s0SKjNtxe2FYo4qfyIgue8qtEWXgy0RdxVxSAtZgpDSh8iBttwLnYqBByONc9IF0M/ EKeyXwd7H72HuBRZspyU18g1I+T6gAxNw5VVYCLF8UAIV49k75vwLT/l60IQHPKV76g7 IxfL3UawqrzyQQDuj/2c05ds5dO2MekTHLsp8= Received: by 10.86.82.6 with SMTP id f6mr34832fgb.73.1220979630394; Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.12? ( [212.198.83.16]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l12sm7155442fgb.6.2008.09.09.10.00.28 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:00:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48C6ABAB.70906@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:00:27 +0200 From: Alban User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.6) Gecko/20070914 Mandriva/2.0.0.6-4mdv2008.0 (2008.0) Thunderbird/2.0.0.6bbbb TrombiNews/0.7.9b MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] plus grand que \Huge References: <587854BE-8619-47D2-8B59-573D49996A88@orange.fr> <20080909164859.GA4296@club-internet.fr> In-Reply-To: <20080909164859.GA4296@club-internet.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:00:38 +0200 (CEST) Philippe Delavalade a écrit : > Bonjour. > > Ça m'intéresse beaucoup mais je n'ai pas trouvé sur CTAN. Ai-je mal > cherché ? Et dans la négative, où peut-on trouver ce « montre » ? > > Merci d'avance > > Ph. Delavalade Je l'ai trouvé ici : . Enfin, plus précisément là : ;-) -- Alban http://dericba.free.fr/linux From - Tue Sep 9 19:06:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr (smtp19.orange.fr [80.12.242.18]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m89H5nAE060317 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:05:54 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1916.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 49DE51C000AA for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:05:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (ABayonne-256-1-90-94.w90-45.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.45.41.94]) by mwinf1916.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 135E21C000A1 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:05:49 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080909170549794.135E21C000A1@mwinf1916.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <20080909164859.GA4296@club-internet.fr> References: <587854BE-8619-47D2-8B59-573D49996A88@orange.fr> <20080909164859.GA4296@club-internet.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Denis_Verg=E8s?= Subject: Re: [gut] plus grand que \Huge Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:05:47 +0200 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:05:54 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m89H5nAE060317 Bonsoir, monster2e se trouve par exemple à : http://www.stsci.edu/ftp/software/tex/posters/ Cordialement Denis Vergès Le 9 sept. 08 à 18:48, Philippe Delavalade a écrit : > > Bonjour. > > Le mardi 09 septembre à 14:56, René Fritz a écrit : >> Il existe aussi un fichier de style monster2e.sty >> >> % monster.clo >> % >> % Gigantic fonts, intended for posters. This version for LaTeX2e >> % >> % The new font sizes are: >> % >> % \HUGE 30pt characters 36pt \baselineskip >> % \monster 43pt characters 52pt \baselineskip >> % \Monster 62pt characters 75pt \baselineskip >> % \MONSTER 89pt characters 107pt \baselineskip >> % \screamer 128pt characters 154pt \baselineskip >> % \Screamer 185pt characters 222pt \baselineskip >> % \SCREAMER 266pt characters 319pt \baselineskip >> % >> % Harry Payne Internet: payne@stsci.edu >> % Space Telescope Science Institute SPAN: SCIVAX::PAYNE >> (6549::PAYNE) >> % 3700 San Martin Drive Phone: (410) 338-4539 >> % Baltimore, MD 21218 ICBM: 76 37' 30"W 39 20' >> 00"N >> % > > Ça m'intéresse beaucoup mais je n'ai pas trouvé sur CTAN. Ai-je mal > cherché ? Et dans la négative, où peut-on trouver ce « montre » ? > > Merci d'avance > > Ph. Delavalade > From - Tue Sep 9 19:06:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from relay-cm.club-internet.fr (relay-cm.club-internet.fr [194.158.104.39]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m89H5thX060343 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:06:00 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from magellan (did75-5-87-91-253-47.dsl.club-internet.fr [87.91.253.47]) by relay-cm.club-internet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCACB25616 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:05:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: by magellan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9AA96EDCC1; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:05:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:05:53 +0200 From: Philippe Delavalade To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] plus grand que \Huge Message-ID: <20080909170553.GA4314@club-internet.fr> References: <48C64F6A.7090708@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <48C64F6A.7090708@wanadoo.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:06:00 +0200 (CEST) Le mardi 09 septembre à 12:26, Jean-Côme Charpentier a écrit : > pir2.jv a écrit : > > > > Existe-t-il plus grand que \Huge ??? > > Pas par défaut dans les classes standard mais ce n'est pas très dur de > ce bricoler son propre truc. Sachant qu'on a (avec un corps de fonte de > base de 10pt) : > > ... > \newcommand\Large{\@setfontsize \Large \@xivpt {18}} > \newcommand\LARGE{\@setfontsize \LARGE \@xviipt {22}} > \newcommand\huge{\@setfontsize\huge\@xxpt{25}} > \newcommand\Huge{\@setfontsize \Huge \@xxvpt {30}} > > sachant que les \pt ne vont que jusqu'à > \@xxvpt et, contrairement à ce qu'on pourrait croire de prime abord est > une macro dont la définition est très exactement 24.88 (donc pas 25 et > pas de pt à la fin), et sachant que si on veut respecter le principe > sous-jacent, les suites de macros donnent une suite (une vraie, une > mathématique) géométrique de raison 1,2, on aura : > > 10 - 12 - 14.4 - 17.28 - 20.736 - 24.8832 - 29.85984 - 35.83181 (à > partir de maintenant, j'arrondis à 5 chiffres après la virgule) - > 42.99817, 51,59780, 61.91736 (je laisse le lecteur attentif continuer) > qui donnera : > > \newcommand\HUGE{\@setfontsize \Huge{29.85954}{35}} > \newcommand\morethanhuge{\@setfontsize \morethanhuge > \Huge{29.85954}{35}} > \newcommand\Morethanhuge{\@setfontsize \Morethanhuge > \Huge{35.83181}{43}} > \newcommand\MoreThanHuge{\@setfontsize \MoreThanHuge > \Huge{42.99817}{52}} > \newcommand\MORETHANHUGE{\@setfontsize \MORETHANHUGE > \Huge{51,59780}{62}} Chez moi ça ne fonctione pas : \documentclass[a4paper]{article} \usepackage[latin9]{inputenc} \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \usepackage[frenchb]{babel} \makeatletter \newcommand\MORETHANHUGE{\@setfontsize \MORETHANHUGE \Huge{51,59780}{62}} \makeatother \begin{document} {\MORETHANHUGE{Essai}} \end{document} Merci de me corriger :-) Ph. 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( [82.240.214.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l19sm6190178fgb.7.2008.09.09.10.06.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48C6AD4C.4080404@yahoo.fr> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:07:24 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: \cite dans tabular Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: ghislain dutheil X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:06:49 +0200 (CEST) Bonjour à tous, je souhaite mettre un \cite{toto} dans un tabular, ça ne marche pas. J'aie aussi essayé \protect\cite{toto} mais sans plus de succès. Quelqu'un sait-il comment je peux faire ? 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B=0.012 -> S=0.012 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham Bonjour, Philippe Delavalade wrote: > Le mardi 09 septembre à 12:26, Jean-Côme Charpentier a écrit : > >> pir2.jv a écrit : >> >>> Existe-t-il plus grand que \Huge ??? >>> >> [snip] >> >> 10 - 12 - 14.4 - 17.28 - 20.736 - 24.8832 - 29.85984 - 35.83181 (à >> partir de maintenant, j'arrondis à 5 chiffres après la virgule) - >> 42.99817, 51,59780, 61.91736 (je laisse le lecteur attentif continuer) >> qui donnera : >> >> \newcommand\HUGE{\@setfontsize \Huge{29.85954}{35}} >> \newcommand\morethanhuge{\@setfontsize \morethanhuge >> \Huge{29.85954}{35}} >> \newcommand\Morethanhuge{\@setfontsize \Morethanhuge >> \Huge{35.83181}{43}} >> \newcommand\MoreThanHuge{\@setfontsize \MoreThanHuge >> \Huge{42.99817}{52}} >> \newcommand\MORETHANHUGE{\@setfontsize \MORETHANHUGE >> \Huge{51,59780}{62}} >> > > Chez moi ça ne fonctione pas : > > > \documentclass[a4paper]{article} > \usepackage[latin9]{inputenc} > \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} > \usepackage[frenchb]{babel} > > \makeatletter > \newcommand\MORETHANHUGE{\@setfontsize \MORETHANHUGE \Huge{51,59780}{62}} > \makeatother > > \begin{document} > > {\MORETHANHUGE{Essai}} > > \end{document} > > Merci de me corriger :-) > > Ph. Delavalade > Je pense que dans les exemples de Jean-Côme il faut se concentrer sur le premier et supprimer le \MORETHANHUGE à l'intérieur de la définition: \newcommand\MORETHANHUGE{\@setfontsize \Huge{51,59780}{62}} fonctionne chez moi. Erwan From - Tue Sep 9 19:38:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp21.orange.fr (smtp21.orange.fr [80.12.242.46]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m89Hbun2074955 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:38:02 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2129.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B84B31C000A0 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:37:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.148] (AToulouse-254-1-66-142.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.49.77.142]) by mwinf2129.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 48EBA1C00096 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:37:56 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080909173756298.48EBA1C00096@mwinf2129.orange.fr Message-ID: <48C6B474.4000609@wanadoo.fr> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:37:56 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-C=F4me_Charpentier?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] plus grand que \Huge References: <48C64F6A.7090708@wanadoo.fr> <20080909170553.GA4314@club-internet.fr> <48C6B01F.7050101@cmap.polytechnique.fr> In-Reply-To: <48C6B01F.7050101@cmap.polytechnique.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:38:02 +0200 (CEST) Erwan Le Pennec a écrit : > > Bonjour, > > Philippe Delavalade wrote: >> Le mardi 09 septembre à 12:26, Jean-Côme Charpentier a écrit : >> >>> pir2.jv a écrit : >>> >>>> Existe-t-il plus grand que \Huge ??? >>>> >>> [snip] >>> 10 - 12 - 14.4 - 17.28 - 20.736 - 24.8832 - 29.85984 - 35.83181 (à >>> partir de maintenant, j'arrondis à 5 chiffres après la virgule) - >>> 42.99817, 51,59780, 61.91736 (je laisse le lecteur attentif continuer) >>> qui donnera : >>> >>> \newcommand\HUGE{\@setfontsize \Huge{29.85954}{35}} >>> \newcommand\morethanhuge{\@setfontsize \morethanhuge >>> \Huge{29.85954}{35}} >>> \newcommand\Morethanhuge{\@setfontsize \Morethanhuge >>> \Huge{35.83181}{43}} >>> \newcommand\MoreThanHuge{\@setfontsize \MoreThanHuge >>> \Huge{42.99817}{52}} >>> \newcommand\MORETHANHUGE{\@setfontsize \MORETHANHUGE >>> \Huge{51,59780}{62}} >>> >> >> Chez moi ça ne fonctione pas : >> >> >> \documentclass[a4paper]{article} >> \usepackage[latin9]{inputenc} >> \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} >> \usepackage[frenchb]{babel} >> >> \makeatletter >> \newcommand\MORETHANHUGE{\@setfontsize \MORETHANHUGE \Huge{51,59780}{62}} >> \makeatother >> >> \begin{document} >> >> {\MORETHANHUGE{Essai}} >> >> \end{document} >> >> Merci de me corriger :-) >> >> Ph. Delavalade >> > > Je pense que dans les exemples de Jean-Côme il faut se concentrer sur > le premier et supprimer le \MORETHANHUGE à l'intérieur de la définition: > > \newcommand\MORETHANHUGE{\@setfontsize \Huge{51,59780}{62}} > > fonctionne chez moi. C'est presque ça. Il y avait une petite merde au niveau du copié collé. Mais ce n'est pas \Huge qu'il faut laisser, c'est \Huge qu'il faut virer :-) Donc \documentclass[a4paper]{article} \usepackage[latin9]{inputenc} \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \usepackage[frenchb]{babel} \makeatletter \newcommand\MORETHANHUGE{\@setfontsize \MORETHANHUGE {51,59780}{62}} \makeatother \begin{document} {\MORETHANHUGE Essai} \end{document} fonctionne *et* c'est plus propre :-) Attention, tout comme \Huge ou autre \tiny, \small et \Large, il s'agit d'une macro sans argument. Ici, les accolades entourant « Essai » étaient inutiles. Jean-Côme Charpentier From - Tue Sep 9 19:42:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2f.orange.fr (smtp2f.orange.fr [80.12.242.152]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m89Hg4ZB076710 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:42:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2f26.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B121070000A3 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:42:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [90.15.100.19] (AMarseille-157-1-21-19.w90-15.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.15.100.19]) by mwinf2f26.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5F7037000086 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:42:04 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080909174204390.5F7037000086@mwinf2f26.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <20080909164859.GA4296@club-internet.fr> References: <587854BE-8619-47D2-8B59-573D49996A88@orange.fr> <20080909164859.GA4296@club-internet.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <54016B47-794C-484D-80D2-E085010507E6@wanadoo.fr> From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: [gut] plus grand que \Huge Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:41:58 +0200 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:42:10 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m89Hg4ZB076710 Le 9 sept. 08 à 18:48, Philippe Delavalade a écrit : > > Bonjour. > > Le mardi 09 septembre à 14:56, René Fritz a écrit : >> Il existe aussi un fichier de style monster2e.sty >> >> % monster.clo >> % >> % Gigantic fonts, intended for posters. This version for LaTeX2e >> % >> % The new font sizes are: >> % >> % \HUGE 30pt characters 36pt \baselineskip >> % \monster 43pt characters 52pt \baselineskip >> % \Monster 62pt characters 75pt \baselineskip >> % \MONSTER 89pt characters 107pt \baselineskip >> % \screamer 128pt characters 154pt \baselineskip >> % \Screamer 185pt characters 222pt \baselineskip >> % \SCREAMER 266pt characters 319pt \baselineskip >> % >> % Harry Payne Internet: payne@stsci.edu >> % Space Telescope Science Institute SPAN: SCIVAX::PAYNE >> (6549::PAYNE) >> % 3700 San Martin Drive Phone: (410) 338-4539 >> % Baltimore, MD 21218 ICBM: 76 37' 30"W 39 20' >> 00"N >> % > > Ça m'intéresse beaucoup mais je n'ai pas trouvé sur CTAN. Ai-je mal > cherché ? Et dans la négative, où peut-on trouver ce « montre » ? > > Merci d'avance > > Ph. Delavalade > Je n'ai pas encore essayé, mais j'ai trouvé à: http://www.stsci.edu/ftp/software/tex/posters/monster2e.sty Merci à tous ceux qui ont répondu. Sur le coup, scalebox a fait ce que je voulais, mais je vais étudier, tout de même, les autres pistes! Merci Jacques Vernin From - Tue Sep 9 19:46:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2b.orange.fr (smtp2b.orange.fr [80.12.242.146]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m89HkW2a078666 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:46:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2b19.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5F187700009C for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:46:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.148] (AToulouse-254-1-66-142.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.49.77.142]) by mwinf2b19.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1FC8A7000099 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:46:32 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080909174632130.1FC8A7000099@mwinf2b19.orange.fr Message-ID: <48C6B677.5070607@wanadoo.fr> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:46:31 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-C=F4me_Charpentier?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] plus grand que \Huge References: <587854BE-8619-47D2-8B59-573D49996A88@orange.fr> <20080909164859.GA4296@club-internet.fr> <54016B47-794C-484D-80D2-E085010507E6@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <54016B47-794C-484D-80D2-E085010507E6@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:46:38 +0200 (CEST) pir2.jv a écrit : > > Merci à tous ceux qui ont répondu. Sur le coup, scalebox a fait ce que > je voulais, mais je vais étudier, tout de même, les autres pistes! En fait, cela dépend de ce qui est voulu. Le désavantage de \scalebox, c'est que, comme son nom l'indique, cela met en boîte donc sa bousille l'élasticité et les possibilités de coupure. En fonction de l'utilisation, on a le droit de se moquer éperdument de cet aspect des choses. Il y a d'autres micro-désavantages mais on peut laisser tomber dans un premier temps. Jean-Côme Charpentier From - Tue Sep 9 19:49:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr (smtp19.orange.fr [80.12.242.17]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m89HnUuX079925 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:49:35 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1911.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0887C1C000B8 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:49:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [90.15.100.19] (AMarseille-157-1-21-19.w90-15.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.15.100.19]) by mwinf1911.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B2B3D1C000B3 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:49:29 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080909174929732.B2B3D1C000B3@mwinf1911.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <48C6B677.5070607@wanadoo.fr> References: <587854BE-8619-47D2-8B59-573D49996A88@orange.fr> <20080909164859.GA4296@club-internet.fr> <54016B47-794C-484D-80D2-E085010507E6@wanadoo.fr> <48C6B677.5070607@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <782E25A9-2CD0-4DDB-BAAD-07D6E1B847BE@wanadoo.fr> From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: [gut] plus grand que \Huge Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 19:49:23 +0200 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:49:35 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m89HnUuX079925 Le 9 sept. 08 à 19:46, Jean-Côme Charpentier a écrit : > > pir2.jv a écrit : >> >> Merci à tous ceux qui ont répondu. Sur le coup, scalebox a fait ce >> que >> je voulais, mais je vais étudier, tout de même, les autres pistes! > > En fait, cela dépend de ce qui est voulu. Le désavantage de > \scalebox, > c'est que, comme son nom l'indique, cela met en boîte donc sa bousille > l'élasticité et les possibilités de coupure. En fonction de > l'utilisation, on a le droit de se moquer éperdument de cet aspect des > choses. Il y a d'autres micro-désavantages mais on peut laisser tomber > dans un premier temps. > > Jean-Côme Charpentier > > Je comprends bien, mais, dans mon cas, c'était juste pour mettre dans un tableau: 1,2,3,... seuls. Du coup, les problèmes dont tu parles n'en sont pas. Mais je vais regarder les autres manières, qui me paraissent plus "propres". Jacques Vernin From - Tue Sep 9 20:07:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (smtp4-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.30]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m89I7Gof088123 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 20:07:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6183EA12E for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 20:07:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.124] (elzevir.fr [88.165.216.11]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472913EA0E0 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 20:07:16 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48C6BB50.1000905@elzevir.fr> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 20:07:12 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Manuel_P=E9gouri=E9-Gonnard?= User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] plus grand que \Huge References: <48C64F6A.7090708@wanadoo.fr> <20080909170553.GA4314@club-internet.fr> <48C6B01F.7050101@cmap.polytechnique.fr> <48C6B474.4000609@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <48C6B474.4000609@wanadoo.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 OpenPGP: url=http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x50A89B42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 09 Sep 2008 20:07:22 +0200 (CEST) Jean-Côme Charpentier a écrit : > {\MORETHANHUGE Essai} > Je me permets de pinailler un peu : {\MORETHANHUGE Essai\par} À moins qu'on cherche d'une façon détournée à obtenir des effets spéciaux qui de toute façon sont accessible autrement, il vaut mieux terminer le paragraphe avant que l'interligne soit redevenu petit. (Je suppose bien sûr qu'on est entre personnes bien élevés qui ne changent pas de taille de font en plein milieu d'une ligne.) Comparer : \begin{center} {\Huge Cours du mardi}\\ % mal {\Large de l'université de tataouine sur mer} \end{center} avec \begin{center} {\Huge Cours du mardi\par} {\Large de l'université de tataouine sur mer\par} \end{center} (c'est le deuxième \par qui compte en fait). Manuel. From - Tue Sep 9 20:30:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from maiev.nerim.net (smtp-116-tuesday.nerim.net [62.4.16.116]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m89ITqpe097487 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 20:29:58 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from rincevent.cadichonne.net (rincevent.cadichonne.net [213.41.134.11]) by maiev.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67EDABA026 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 20:29:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from gaspode.cadichonne.net ([192.168.1.115]) by rincevent.cadichonne.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Kd7yK-0004wP-70 for gut@ens.fr; Tue, 09 Sep 2008 20:29:52 +0200 Message-ID: <48C6C0A0.2040905@ecl2002.ec-lyon.fr> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 20:29:52 +0200 From: Mathieu Goutelle User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] plus grand que \Huge References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 09 Sep 2008 20:29:58 +0200 (CEST) Bonsoir, pir2.jv a écrit : > Existe-t-il plus grand que \Huge ??? Étonnamment, le package /moresize/ n'a pas été cité dans le fil : http://tug.ctan.org/cgi-bin/ctanPackageInformation.py?id=moresize Oubli répare ;-). Cordialement, -- Mathieu Goutelle -- http://www.cadichonne.net/ « Alors, il devint aussi méfiant qu'un chat à longue queue dans un magasin de rocking-chair... » --- Terry Pratchett From - Tue Sep 9 22:59:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m89KxbAS056723 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 22:59:37 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from math.jussieu.fr (mail.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.55]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id m89KxZ2v076969 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 22:59:36 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 164 Received: from localhost.localdomain (APuteaux-116-1-4-8.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr [80.11.136.8]) (authenticated bits=0) by math.jussieu.fr (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m89KxXWk076333 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2008 22:59:34 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48C6E342.8080407@cmap.polytechnique.fr> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:57:38 +0200 From: Erwan Le Pennec User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080726) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] plus grand que \Huge References: <48C64F6A.7090708@wanadoo.fr> <20080909170553.GA4314@club-internet.fr> <48C6B01F.7050101@cmap.polytechnique.fr> <48C6B474.4000609@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <48C6B474.4000609@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/8203/Tue Sep 9 21:41:52 2008 on shiva.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94, clamav-milter version 0.94 on mail.math.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Miltered: at jchkmail2.jussieu.fr with ID 48C6C7BA.003 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 48C6C7BA.003/134.157.13.55/mail.math.jussieu.fr/math.jussieu.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 48C6C7BA.003 on jchkmail2.jussieu.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.006 -> S=0.006 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:59:37 +0200 (CEST) Jean-Côme Charpentier wrote: > Erwan Le Pennec a écrit : > >> Bonjour, >> >> Philippe Delavalade wrote: >> >>> Le mardi 09 septembre à 12:26, Jean-Côme Charpentier a écrit : >>> >>> >>>> pir2.jv a écrit : >>>> >>>> >>>>> Existe-t-il plus grand que \Huge ??? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> [snip] >>>> 10 - 12 - 14.4 - 17.28 - 20.736 - 24.8832 - 29.85984 - 35.83181 (à >>>> partir de maintenant, j'arrondis à 5 chiffres après la virgule) - >>>> 42.99817, 51,59780, 61.91736 (je laisse le lecteur attentif continuer) >>>> qui donnera : >>>> >>>> \newcommand\HUGE{\@setfontsize \Huge{29.85954}{35}} >>>> \newcommand\morethanhuge{\@setfontsize \morethanhuge >>>> \Huge{29.85954}{35}} >>>> \newcommand\Morethanhuge{\@setfontsize \Morethanhuge >>>> \Huge{35.83181}{43}} >>>> \newcommand\MoreThanHuge{\@setfontsize \MoreThanHuge >>>> \Huge{42.99817}{52}} >>>> \newcommand\MORETHANHUGE{\@setfontsize \MORETHANHUGE >>>> \Huge{51,59780}{62}} >>>> >>>> >>> Chez moi ça ne fonctione pas : >>> >>> >>> \documentclass[a4paper]{article} >>> \usepackage[latin9]{inputenc} >>> \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} >>> \usepackage[frenchb]{babel} >>> >>> \makeatletter >>> \newcommand\MORETHANHUGE{\@setfontsize \MORETHANHUGE \Huge{51,59780}{62}} >>> \makeatother >>> >>> \begin{document} >>> >>> {\MORETHANHUGE{Essai}} >>> >>> \end{document} >>> >>> Merci de me corriger :-) >>> >>> Ph. Delavalade >>> >>> >> Je pense que dans les exemples de Jean-Côme il faut se concentrer sur >> le premier et supprimer le \MORETHANHUGE à l'intérieur de la définition: >> >> \newcommand\MORETHANHUGE{\@setfontsize \Huge{51,59780}{62}} >> >> fonctionne chez moi. >> > > C'est presque ça. Il y avait une petite merde au niveau du copié > collé. Mais ce n'est pas \Huge qu'il faut laisser, c'est \Huge qu'il > faut virer :-) > > Donc > > \documentclass[a4paper]{article} > \usepackage[latin9]{inputenc} > \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} > \usepackage[frenchb]{babel} > > \makeatletter > \newcommand\MORETHANHUGE{\@setfontsize \MORETHANHUGE {51,59780}{62}} > \makeatother > > \begin{document} > > {\MORETHANHUGE Essai} > > \end{document} > > fonctionne *et* c'est plus propre :-) Attention, tout comme \Huge ou > autre \tiny, \small et \Large, il s'agit d'une macro sans argument. Ici, > les accolades entourant « Essai » étaient inutiles. > > Jean-Côme Charpentier > Oops, Erwan qui avait une chance sur deux :( PS: Quelle était l'effet secondaire de ma proposition ratée? From - Wed Sep 10 09:03:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp21.orange.fr (smtp21.orange.fr [80.12.242.46]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8A72ghJ080157 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:02:47 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2129.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6DC0B1C000A3 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:02:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [90.15.229.196] (AMarseille-157-1-46-196.w90-15.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.15.229.196]) by mwinf2129.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 34CB11C000A2 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:02:41 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080910070241216.34CB11C000A2@mwinf2129.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <48C64C3A.2090105@elzevir.fr> References: <48C64C3A.2090105@elzevir.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <9B685FE4-BD1B-4426-AD78-CBB1AFE98EE2@wanadoo.fr> From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: [gut] plus grand que \Huge Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:02:34 +0200 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:02:47 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8A72ghJ080157 Le 9 sept. 08 à 12:13, Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard a écrit : > {\fontsize{60}{72}\selectfont > Mon texte en corps 60, interligne 72. > \par} Non, pour moi, cela ne fonctionne pas. Faut-il une extension particulière? Salut. Jacques Vernin From - Wed Sep 10 10:00:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp.insa-lyon.fr (criges14.insa-lyon.fr [134.214.76.242]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8A7xqaP008285 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:59:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.insa-lyon.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BC72F3171 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:59:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: SMTP at INSA-LYON Received: from smtp.insa-lyon.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (criges14.insa-lyon.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vU3+FiVH5uYU for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:59:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [134.214.73.111] (pc302-19.insa-lyon.fr [134.214.73.111]) by smtp.insa-lyon.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165D8F3167 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:59:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48C77E73.8050803@insa-lyon.fr> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:59:47 +0200 From: Gilbert Travin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] plus grand que \Huge References: <48C64C3A.2090105@elzevir.fr> <9B685FE4-BD1B-4426-AD78-CBB1AFE98EE2@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <9B685FE4-BD1B-4426-AD78-CBB1AFE98EE2@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070807030403090801010606" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 09:59:53 +0200 (CEST) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070807030403090801010606 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit pir2.jv a écrit : > > Le 9 sept. 08 à 12:13, Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard a écrit : > >> {\fontsize{60}{72}\selectfont >> Mon texte en corps 60, interligne 72. >> \par} > > > Non, pour moi, cela ne fonctionne pas. Faut-il une extension > particulière? > Salut. > > Jacques Vernin > > > > Attention ca fonctionne avec des polices vectorielles times ou lmodern par exemple !!! gilbert --------------070807030403090801010606 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="gilbert_travin.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="gilbert_travin.vcf" begin:vcard fn:Gilbert TRAVIN n:TRAVIN;Gilbert org;quoted-printable:INSA-LYON;Laboratoire de m=C3=A9canique des fluides et acoustique adr;quoted-printable:20 avenue Einstein;;B=C3=A2timent Jacquard;Villeurbanne;;69621;France email;internet:gilbert.travin@insa-lyon.fr title;quoted-printable:Ma=C3=AEtre de conf=C3=A9rences tel;work:04 72 43 81 57 tel;cell:06 03 33 90 03 x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard --------------070807030403090801010606-- From - Wed Sep 10 11:38:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp27.orange.fr (smtp27.orange.fr [80.12.242.95]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8A9cAwC073134 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:38:15 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2706.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5B3B11C00089 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:38:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.5] (APuteaux-153-1-12-85.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.124.181.85]) by mwinf2706.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 353721C00081 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:38:10 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080910093810218.353721C00081@mwinf2706.orange.fr Message-Id: <6C6A6C77-8A62-4DF4-83BC-CA52475BA490@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: gut@ens.fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?maths_dans_l=E9gende?= Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:38:09 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:38:16 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8A9cAwC073134 Je mets une expression mathématique \protect{$\overrightarrow a$} dans une légende de figure le compilo râle... Que faire comme disait l'Autre en 1905 ? Ivan From - Wed Sep 10 11:44:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from di.ens.fr (di.ens.fr [129.199.99.1]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8A9ia1V081618 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:44:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (ccheval@localhost) by di.ens.fr (8.13.6/jb-1.1) id m8A9iWi2024494 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:44:32 +0200 X-Envelope-To: X-Authentication-Warning: di.ens.fr: ccheval owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:44:32 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?C=E9line_Chevalier?= X-X-Sender: ccheval@di.ens.fr To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] maths dans =?ISO-8859-1?Q?l=E9gende?= In-Reply-To: <6C6A6C77-8A62-4DF4-83BC-CA52475BA490@orange.fr> Message-ID: References: <6C6A6C77-8A62-4DF4-83BC-CA52475BA490@orange.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-947846813-1203494922-1221039872=:22483" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 11:44:36 +0200 (CEST) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---947846813-1203494922-1221039872=:22483 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Bonjour, > Je mets une expression mathématique \protect{$\overrightarrow a$} dans une > légende de figure le compilo râle... Que faire comme disait l'Autre en 1905 ? Plutôt $\protect\overrightarrow a$. Céline ---947846813-1203494922-1221039872=:22483-- From - Wed Sep 10 12:49:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2-g19.free.fr (smtp2-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.28]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8AAmvKc028711 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:49:02 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtp2-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 010BC12B70F for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:48:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.124] (elzevir.fr [88.165.216.11]) by smtp2-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1C9412B701 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:48:56 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48C7A618.5000109@elzevir.fr> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:48:56 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Manuel_P=E9gouri=E9-Gonnard?= User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] plus grand que \Huge References: <48C64C3A.2090105@elzevir.fr> <9B685FE4-BD1B-4426-AD78-CBB1AFE98EE2@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <9B685FE4-BD1B-4426-AD78-CBB1AFE98EE2@wanadoo.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 OpenPGP: url=http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x50A89B42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 12:49:02 +0200 (CEST) pir2.jv a écrit : >> {\fontsize{60}{72}\selectfont >> Mon texte en corps 60, interligne 72. >> \par} > > > Non, pour moi, cela ne fonctionne pas. Faut-il une extension particulière? Non, ça fait vraiment partie du coeur de LaTeX. Comme le dit Gilbert, la seule condition c'est d'utiliser des polices vectorielles. Mais de toutes façon il faudrait toujours utiliser des polices vectorielles... Manuel. From - Wed Sep 10 13:16:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp28.orange.fr (smtp28.orange.fr [80.12.242.99]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8ABGHiS040443 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:16:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2828.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 04CAC7000090 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:16:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [90.15.229.196] (AMarseille-157-1-46-196.w90-15.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.15.229.196]) by mwinf2828.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id AFF3C700008D for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:16:16 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080910111616720.AFF3C700008D@mwinf2828.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <48C7A618.5000109@elzevir.fr> References: <48C64C3A.2090105@elzevir.fr> <9B685FE4-BD1B-4426-AD78-CBB1AFE98EE2@wanadoo.fr> <48C7A618.5000109@elzevir.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <22EFAFA5-F0C0-47AD-907A-225015A10993@wanadoo.fr> From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: [gut] plus grand que \Huge Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:16:10 +0200 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:16:22 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8ABGHiS040443 Le 10 sept. 08 à 12:48, Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard a écrit : > > pir2.jv a écrit : >>> {\fontsize{60}{72}\selectfont >>> Mon texte en corps 60, interligne 72. >>> \par} >> >> >> Non, pour moi, cela ne fonctionne pas. Faut-il une extension >> particulière? > > Non, ça fait vraiment partie du coeur de LaTeX. Comme le dit > Gilbert, la > seule condition c'est d'utiliser des polices vectorielles. Mais de > toutes façon il faudrait toujours utiliser des polices vectorielles... > > Manuel. > Excuses. J'ai dû dire une connerie, mais je ne sais pas laquelle. J'avais essayé sans succès. Je recommence avec succès, mais je ne sais plus ce qui a changé. Ce qui me sidère est que, il semblerait, ce soit la réponse la plus naturelle et la plus simple à la question posée. Du coup, les autres me paraissent un peu artificielles. Enfin, je ne regrette pas ma question! Jacques Vernin From - Wed Sep 10 13:28:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2e.orange.fr (smtp2e.orange.fr [80.12.242.113]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8ABRvTw044749 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:28:02 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2e23.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 32E5470000A0 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:27:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Fertel.home (ARennes-358-1-70-178.w90-54.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.54.13.178]) by mwinf2e23.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EE1EC700008D for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:27:56 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080910112756975.EE1EC700008D@mwinf2e23.orange.fr Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jacques_Andr=E9?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: <22EFAFA5-F0C0-47AD-907A-225015A10993@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Re: [gut] plus grand que \Huge Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:27:56 +0200 References: <48C64C3A.2090105@elzevir.fr> <9B685FE4-BD1B-4426-AD78-CBB1AFE98EE2@wanadoo.fr> <48C7A618.5000109@elzevir.fr> <22EFAFA5-F0C0-47AD-907A-225015A10993@wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 13:28:02 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8ABRvTw044749 Le 10 sept. 2008 à 13:16, pir2.jv a écrit : > > > Ce qui me sidère est que, il semblerait, ce soit la réponse la plus > naturelle Ce n'est sidérant que pour les personnes qui en sont restées aux fontes cmr et en tout cas bitmap des années 1980... > Du coup, les autres me paraissent un peu artificielles. Pas entièrement car elles relèvent de l'esprit TeX où il y a une échelle des corps, ce qui est en conformité avec la typographie traditionnelle (où un corps 23,67 n'avait pas de sens). ET aussi car, comme l'a dit Jean-Cöme, des effet de bords sont possibles avec cette méthode trop simple... ce qui dans le cas de vos tableaux ne devrait pas arriver ! -- Jacques ANDRÉ From - Wed Sep 10 14:06:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2e.orange.fr (smtp2e.orange.fr [80.12.242.112]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8AC6Zxx059705 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:06:40 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2e11.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 40C4A700009C for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:06:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (APuteaux-154-1-68-218.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.249.51.218]) by mwinf2e11.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 078AB7000091 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:06:34 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080910120635310.078AB7000091@mwinf2e11.orange.fr Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:06:28 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <20080910.140628.39172101.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> To: gut@ens.fr Subject: pdf+metapost From: Pierre Lorenzon X-Mailer: Mew version 5.1 on Emacs 22.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:06:40 +0200 (CEST) Bonjour, J'utilise de temps à autre metapost pour produire quelques graphiques (ne me suggérez pas d'utiliser des outils wyswyg car je suis aveugle et c'est donc inopérant!). Les fichiers produits par metapost sont généralement nommés fichier.x x étant un entier correspondant à la figure. Lorsque je les inclue dans un fichier latex avec la commande \includegraphics tout se compile parfaitement pour peu que j'aie mis dans le préambule le \usepackage{graphicx} ad hoc. Mais lorsque j'essaye de produire un fichier pdf avec pdflatex j'obtiens invariablement cette erreur : unknown graphics extension et ce quelle que soit la manière dont je renomme le fichier fichier.x (.ps, .eps ...). Il y a évidemment une solution qui consiste à produire un ps puis à le transformer en pdf mais je crois ne pas avoir réinstallé les outils permettant de faire ça, aussi si quelqu'un avait un bon conseil pour l'éviter j'en serais ravi ! Bien à vous Pierre From - Wed Sep 10 14:20:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8ACK6hQ065076 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:20:07 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from monaco.spim.jussieu.fr (monaco.spim.jussieu.fr [134.157.234.5]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id m8ACK5bU050060 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:20:05 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 165 Received: from [134.157.234.99] ([134.157.234.99] RDNS failed) by monaco.spim.jussieu.fr with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:20:43 +0200 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <20080910.140628.39172101.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> References: <20080910.140628.39172101.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-76643186 Message-Id: <184A9FFF-6305-47DF-91EF-69D4E2ACF5C4@spim.jussieu.fr> From: Jean Charlet Subject: Re: [gut] pdf+metapost Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:24:55 +0200 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Sep 2008 12:20:43.0511 (UTC) FILETIME=[A55F1870:01C9133F] X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/8207/Wed Sep 10 12:58:40 2008 on shiva.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Miltered: at jchkmail2.jussieu.fr with ID 48C79F77.006 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 48C79F77.006/134.157.234.5/monaco.spim.jussieu.fr/monaco.spim.jussieu.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 48C79F77.006 on jchkmail2.jussieu.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.001 -> S=0.001 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:20:07 +0200 (CEST) --Apple-Mail-3-76643186 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Le 10 sept. 08 =E0 14:06, Pierre Lorenzon a =E9crit : > > Bonjour, > > J'utilise de temps =E0 autre metapost pour produire quelques > graphiques (ne me sugg=E9rez pas d'utiliser des outils wyswyg car > je suis aveugle et c'est donc inop=E9rant!). Les fichiers > produits par metapost sont g=E9n=E9ralement nomm=E9s fichier.x x > =E9tant un entier correspondant =E0 la figure. Lorsque je les > inclue dans un fichier latex avec la commande \includegraphics > tout se compile parfaitement pour peu que j'aie mis dans le > pr=E9ambule le \usepackage{graphicx} ad hoc. > > Mais lorsque j'essaye de produire un fichier pdf avec pdflatex > j'obtiens invariablement cette erreur : > unknown graphics extension > et ce quelle que soit la mani=E8re dont je renomme le fichier > fichier.x (.ps, .eps ...). > Pdflatex n'accepte justement pas les fichiers .ps ou .eps. Il ne veut=20=20 que des .pdf (par rapport au PostScript, sinon, il accepte des tas de=20=20 formats (.gif, .jpg, .png...) Si vous voulez du pdf =E0 la fin, il faut bien produire un ps et le=20=20 transformer en pdf ou transformer les figures ps et eps en pdf. A priori, avec LaTex, on a les commandes ps2pdf et epstopdf dans le =AB=20= =20 paquet cadeau =BB. 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Bonjour,

J'utilise de temps =E0 autre m= etapost pour produire quelques
graphiques (ne me sugg= =E9rez pas d'utiliser des outils wyswyg car
je suis ave= ugle et c'est donc inop=E9rant!). Les fichiers
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Si vous voulez du pdf =E0 la fin, il faut bien prod= uire un ps et le transformer en pdf ou transformer les figures ps et eps en= pdf.
A priori, avec LaTex, on a les commandes ps2pdf et epstopdf= dans le =AB paquet cadeau =BB.

Cordialement,

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--Apple-Mail-3-76643186-- From - Wed Sep 10 14:32:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (smtp5-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.35]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8ACW4Vt069579 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:32:16 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 457581C72CE for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:32:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (vig38-2-82-225-223-57.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.223.57]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25D521C732E for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:32:03 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:31:55 +0200 From: Thierry Bouche X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.14) Educational Organization: Nonsense Inc. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <115441778.20080910143155@ujf-grenoble.fr> To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] pdf+metapost In-Reply-To: <184A9FFF-6305-47DF-91EF-69D4E2ACF5C4@spim.jussieu.fr> References: <20080910.140628.39172101.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> <184A9FFF-6305-47DF-91EF-69D4E2ACF5C4@spim.jussieu.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:32:16 +0200 (CEST) JC> Pdflatex n'accepte justement pas les fichiers .ps ou .eps. Il ne veut JC> que des .pdf (par rapport au PostScript, sinon, il accepte des tas de JC> formats (.gif, .jpg, .png...) c'est faux, archi-faux, et depuis très longtemps ! le package graphics en mode pdftex permet de lire des fichiers metapost en utilisant un module context depuis des lustres. Pour que ça fonctionne tout seul, il suffit de les renommer en xx.mps ; si on veut que ça marche avec le .1, .2, etc. produit par metapost, il suffit de définir des règles ad hoc (DeclareGraphicsRule...) tout ceci est documenté et faqé et tout ce qu'on veut depuis tellement longtemps que ça doit effectivement avoir été oublié depuis ! Thierry From - Wed Sep 10 14:40:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2f.orange.fr (smtp2f.orange.fr [80.12.242.152]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8ACe3aU072658 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:40:09 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2f19.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BA1997000099 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:40:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [90.15.229.196] (AMarseille-157-1-46-196.w90-15.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.15.229.196]) by mwinf2f19.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 43B1B7000096 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:40:03 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080910124003277.43B1B7000096@mwinf2f19.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <20080910.140628.39172101.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> References: <20080910.140628.39172101.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-69-77546268 Message-Id: <78475E46-8086-4703-A8A8-EBF73B8B9B7C@wanadoo.fr> From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: [gut] pdf+metapost Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:39:58 +0200 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:40:09 +0200 (CEST) --Apple-Mail-69-77546268 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Je pense que ton probl=E8me a fait l'objet de quelques messages, le 4/9=20= =20 (Sylvain Chambon). Salut. JV --Apple-Mail-69-77546268 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/rtf; x-unix-mode=0644; x-mac-hide-extension=yes; name=[Syracuse] figures metapost.rtf Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="[Syracuse] figures metapost.rtf" {\rtf1\mac\ansicpg10000\cocoartf824\cocoasubrtf480 {\fonttbl\f0\fswiss\fcharset77 Helvetica-Bold;\f1\fswiss\fcharset77 Helvetica;} {\colortbl;\red255\green255\blue255;\red0\green0\blue0;\red0\green0\blue0;} \pard\tx560\tx1120\tx1680\tx2240\tx2800\tx3360\tx3920\tx4480\tx5040\tx5600\tx6160\tx6720\ql\qnatural\pardirnatural \f0\b\fs24 \cf2 De : \f1\b0 \cf3 Sylvain CHAMBON \ \f0\b \cf2 Date : \f1\b0 \cf3 4 septembre 2008 01:59:24 HAEC\ \f0\b \cf2 \'cb : \f1\b0 \cf3 syracuse@melusine.eu.org\ \f0\b \cf2 Objet : \cf3 [Syracuse] figures metapost\ \pard\tx560\tx1120\tx1680\tx2240\tx2800\tx3360\tx3920\tx4480\tx5040\tx5600\tx6160\tx6720\ql\qnatural\pardirnatural \f1\b0 \cf3 \ \ bonjour !\ \ je suis r\'8ecemment pass\'8e de linux \'88 mac os x et je me heurte \'88 quelques difficult\'8es concernant l'inclusion de figure produite par metapost dans mes fichiers .tex. j'utilise texshop comme \'8editeur et une distrib tex sp\'8eciale mac (dont j'ai oubli\'8e le nom mais bas\'8ee sur texlive me semble-t-il...)\ \ avant sous linux, lorsque je souhaitais inclure une figure issue de mp, je faisais :\ \ \\begin\{center\}\ \\includegraphics[scale=1]\{fig.1\}\ \\end\{center\}\ \ si je fais la m\'90me chose sous mac os (depuis texshop), il interpr\'8fte le '.1' comme une extension semble-t-il... j'ai eu beau cocher le mode 'tex+ghostscript' pour la compilation (j'ai cru comprendre que c'\'8etait ce qu'il fallait faire pour compiler lorsqu'on avait des figure en .ps), j'ai toujours la m\'90me erreur...\ \ j'ai aussi tent\'8e de renommer le fichier en supprimant le '.1' dans le nom. la compilation se passe sans encombre mais c'est un grand espace blanc qui est inclus \'88 la place de ma figure, comme s'il ne savait pas interpr\'8eter le fichier en question...\ \ quelqu'un travaille-t-il sous mac os dans cette liste ? et si oui, pourrait-il m'indiquer le moyen d'inclure simplement ces figure produite par mp ?\ \ merci pour votre aide. sylvain chambon.\ \ ps : pour avoir c\'99toy\'8e il y a quelques temps des utilisateurs sous mac os de latex (malheureusement, je n'en ai plus sous la main... ;-), il me semble qu'ils travaillaient avec 'pdftex' pour les compilations. qu'en pensez-vous ? et comment utiliser ce mode de compilation et travailler avec metapost qui produit des fichiers .ps ?\ \ \ _______________________________________________\ Liste de diffusion Syracuse\ Syracuse@melusine.eu.org\ http://melusine.eu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/syracuse\ Adresse alternative du site :\ http://syracuse.eu.org/syracuse/\ \ } --Apple-Mail-69-77546268 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Le 10 sept. 08 =E0 14:06, Pierre Lorenzon a =E9crit : > > > Bonjour, > > J'utilise de temps =E0 autre metapost pour produire quelques > graphiques (ne me sugg=E9rez pas d'utiliser des outils wyswyg car > je suis aveugle et c'est donc inop=E9rant!). Les fichiers > produits par metapost sont g=E9n=E9ralement nomm=E9s fichier.x x > =E9tant un entier correspondant =E0 la figure. Lorsque je les > inclue dans un fichier latex avec la commande \includegraphics > tout se compile parfaitement pour peu que j'aie mis dans le > pr=E9ambule le \usepackage{graphicx} ad hoc. > > Mais lorsque j'essaye de produire un fichier pdf avec pdflatex > j'obtiens invariablement cette erreur : > unknown graphics extension > et ce quelle que soit la mani=E8re dont je renomme le fichier > fichier.x (.ps, .eps ...). > > Il y a =E9videmment une solution qui consiste =E0 produire un ps > puis =E0 le transformer en pdf mais je crois ne pas avoir > r=E9install=E9 les outils permettant de faire =E7a, aussi si quelqu'un > avait un bon conseil pour l'=E9viter j'en serais ravi ! > > Bien =E0 vous > > Pierre > > Jacques Vernin =20=20 --Apple-Mail-69-77546268-- From - Wed Sep 10 14:44:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8ACiXeP074278 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:44:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from monaco.spim.jussieu.fr (monaco.spim.jussieu.fr [134.157.234.5]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id m8ACiV22064809 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:44:32 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 165 Received: from [134.157.234.99] ([134.157.234.99] RDNS failed) by monaco.spim.jussieu.fr with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:45:10 +0200 In-Reply-To: <115441778.20080910143155@ujf-grenoble.fr> References: <20080910.140628.39172101.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> <184A9FFF-6305-47DF-91EF-69D4E2ACF5C4@spim.jussieu.fr> <115441778.20080910143155@ujf-grenoble.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8-78109620 Message-Id: From: Jean Charlet Subject: Re: [gut] pdf+metapost Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:49:21 +0200 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Sep 2008 12:45:10.0011 (UTC) FILETIME=[0F793CB0:01C91343] X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/8207/Wed Sep 10 12:58:40 2008 on shiva.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Miltered: at jchkmail2.jussieu.fr with ID 48C7A532.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 48C7A532.000/134.157.234.5/monaco.spim.jussieu.fr/monaco.spim.jussieu.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 48C7A532.000 on jchkmail2.jussieu.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.001 -> S=0.001 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:44:33 +0200 (CEST) --Apple-Mail-8-78109620 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Le 10 sept. 08 =E0 14:31, Thierry Bouche a =E9crit : > > JC> Pdflatex n'accepte justement pas les fichiers .ps ou .eps. Il=20=20 > ne veut > JC> que des .pdf (par rapport au PostScript, sinon, il accepte des=20=20 > tas de > JC> formats (.gif, .jpg, .png...) > > c'est faux, archi-faux, et depuis tr=E8s longtemps ! > > le package graphics en mode pdftex permet de lire des fichiers > metapost en utilisant un module context depuis des lustres. Pour que > =E7a fonctionne tout seul, il suffit de les renommer en xx.mps ; si on > veut que =E7a marche avec le .1, .2, etc. produit par metapost, il > suffit de d=E9finir des r=E8gles ad hoc (DeclareGraphicsRule...) > > tout ceci est document=E9 et faq=E9 et tout ce qu'on veut depuis > tellement longtemps que =E7a doit effectivement avoir =E9t=E9 oubli=E9=20= =20 > depuis ! > Oups... pardon. J'aurais appris qq chose. Cette info ne m'avait jamais touch=E9. ,,,, (o-o) --------oOO-(_)-OOo------------------------------------------o0O-OOo---- Jean Charlet URL : http://estime.spim.jussieu.fr/~jc INSERM UMR_S 872, =C9q. 20 M=E9l : Jean.Charlet@spim.jussieu.fr 15, rue de l'=C9cole de M=E9decine T=E9l : +33/0 1 53 10 92 10 75006 Paris, France DSI, Assistance publique - H=F4pitaux de Paris INSERM UMR_S 872, Centre des Cordeliers, Univ. 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--Apple-Mail-8-78109620-- From - Wed Sep 10 14:54:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2e.orange.fr (smtp2e.orange.fr [80.12.242.111]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8ACsWVl078840 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:54:37 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2e02.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F0B3B7000082; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:54:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (APuteaux-154-1-68-218.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.249.51.218]) by mwinf2e02.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id AB873700009C; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:54:31 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080910125431702.AB873700009C@mwinf2e02.orange.fr Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:54:29 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <20080910.145429.59674276.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> To: gut@ens.fr, Thierry.Bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr Subject: Re: [gut] pdf+metapost From: Pierre Lorenzon In-Reply-To: <115441778.20080910143155@ujf-grenoble.fr> References: <20080910.140628.39172101.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> <184A9FFF-6305-47DF-91EF-69D4E2ACF5C4@spim.jussieu.fr> <115441778.20080910143155@ujf-grenoble.fr> X-Mailer: Mew version 5.1 on Emacs 22.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:54:37 +0200 (CEST) From: Thierry Bouche Subject: Re: [gut] pdf+metapost Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:31:55 +0200 > c'est faux, archi-faux, et depuis très longtemps ! > > le package graphics en mode pdftex permet de lire des fichiers > metapost en utilisant un module context depuis des lustres. Pour que > ça fonctionne tout seul, il suffit de les renommer en xx.mps ; si on > veut que ça marche avec le .1, .2, etc. produit par metapost, il > suffit de définir des règles ad hoc (DeclareGraphicsRule...) > > tout ceci est documenté et faqé et tout ce qu'on veut depuis > tellement longtemps que ça doit effectivement avoir été > oublié depuis ! Par pitié pour mon incompétence, une référence aurait été la bienvenue ici, mais google doit pouvoir faire le boulot ! Pierre > > Thierry > From - Wed Sep 10 15:37:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp6.tech.numericable.fr (smtp6.tech.numericable.fr [82.216.111.42]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8ADb0x0099284 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:37:06 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [192.168.2.36] (87-231-47-17.rev.numericable.fr [87.231.47.17]) by smtp6.tech.numericable.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C22F144010 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:37:00 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48C7CD7C.3010204@maisondecole.net> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:37:00 +0200 From: Jean-Michel Boucart User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] pdf+metapost References: <20080910.140628.39172101.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> <184A9FFF-6305-47DF-91EF-69D4E2ACF5C4@spim.jussieu.fr> <115441778.20080910143155@ujf-grenoble.fr> <20080910.145429.59674276.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> In-Reply-To: <20080910.145429.59674276.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:37:06 +0200 (CEST) Pierre Lorenzon a écrit : > Par pitié pour mon incompétence, une référence aurait été la > bienvenue ici, mais google doit pouvoir faire le boulot ! > > Pierre > > > La meilleure référence que je connaisse à ce sujet est l'article "Metapost pratique" de Fabrice Popineau qui dit en cinq ou six page tout ce qui est nécessaire et que j'applique avec bonheur depuis...Ouh là là ! Il est publié dans le n° 41 des cahiers GUTenberg. Jean-Michel From - Wed Sep 10 15:48:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (smtp20.orange.fr [80.12.242.27]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8ADmCuv004813 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:48:18 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2011.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BE9381C000BB for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:48:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (ALille-251-1-7-110.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.149.110]) by mwinf2011.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 883681C000B7 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:48:12 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080910134812558.883681C000B7@mwinf2011.orange.fr From: "Yvon Henel (TdS)" To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] pdf+metapost Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:48:04 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 20070904.708012) References: <20080910.140628.39172101.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> <115441778.20080910143155@ujf-grenoble.fr> <20080910.145429.59674276.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> In-Reply-To: <20080910.145429.59674276.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> X-Face: $1WU:${_MU*`jL~4Bj(E@3R_=Z9?SPQC:3=T/u-CPbGVM1vzFB'DS!_D)=?utf-8?q?=266zsCxf=7DA=7BdL-=0A=09=7C*UbYq8J?="i#"Gv$`hZyMlk0+F$3N@0{44*/s.crcwRD2!U{VQ~? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart8740336.IFjiP9o6h8"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200809101548.11156.yvon.henel@orange.fr> X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:48:18 +0200 (CEST) --nextPart8740336.IFjiP9o6h8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Le mercredi 10 septembre 2008, Pierre Lorenzon a =E9crit=A0: > From: Thierry Bouche > Subject: Re: [gut] pdf+metapost > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:31:55 +0200 > > > c'est faux, archi-faux, et depuis tr=E8s longtemps ! > > > > le package graphics en mode pdftex permet de lire des fichiers > > metapost en utilisant un module context depuis des lustres. Pour que > > =E7a fonctionne tout seul, il suffit de les renommer en xx.mps ; si on > > veut que =E7a marche avec le .1, .2, etc. produit par metapost, il > > suffit de d=E9finir des r=E8gles ad hoc (DeclareGraphicsRule...) > > > > tout ceci est document=E9 et faq=E9 et tout ce qu'on veut depuis > > tellement longtemps que =E7a doit effectivement avoir =E9t=E9 > > oubli=E9 depuis=A0! > > Par piti=E9 pour mon incomp=E9tence, une r=E9f=E9rence aurait =E9t=E9 la > bienvenue ici, mais google doit pouvoir faire le boulot ! Voici ce que je mets dans mon pr=E9ambule=20 \DeclareGraphicsRule{*}{mps}{*}{}=20 et je n'ai pas de pb avec pdflatex --=20 Yvon Henel, TeXnicien de surface --nextPart8740336.IFjiP9o6h8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBIx9Ab7XZYcGKSgf4RAgTXAJ9y5P68IJotGzkFWUjrpiDI2V8sSACgq7sI kYgHaumwhhXeHR/kop3jNpQ= =dhvB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart8740336.IFjiP9o6h8-- From - Wed Sep 10 16:07:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp27.orange.fr (smtp27.orange.fr [80.12.242.95]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8AE7c9H015213 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:07:44 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2712.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CB0AF1C0008E for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:07:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (APuteaux-154-1-68-218.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.249.51.218]) by mwinf2712.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 67F9A1C00085; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:07:38 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080910140738426.67F9A1C00085@mwinf2712.orange.fr Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:07:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <20080910.160735.115929017.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> To: gut@ens.fr, yvon.henel@orange.fr Subject: Re: [gut] pdf+metapost From: Pierre Lorenzon In-Reply-To: <200809101548.11156.yvon.henel@orange.fr> References: <115441778.20080910143155@ujf-grenoble.fr> <20080910.145429.59674276.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> <200809101548.11156.yvon.henel@orange.fr> X-Mailer: Mew version 5.1 on Emacs 22.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:07:44 +0200 (CEST) From: "Yvon Henel (TdS)" Subject: Re: [gut] pdf+metapost Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 15:48:04 +0200 > Le mercredi 10 septembre 2008, Pierre Lorenzon a écrit : > > From: Thierry Bouche > > Subject: Re: [gut] pdf+metapost > > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 14:31:55 +0200 > > > > > c'est faux, archi-faux, et depuis très longtemps ! > > > > > > le package graphics en mode pdftex permet de lire des fichiers > > > metapost en utilisant un module context depuis des lustres. Pour que > > > ça fonctionne tout seul, il suffit de les renommer en xx.mps ; si on > > > veut que ça marche avec le .1, .2, etc. produit par metapost, il > > > suffit de définir des règles ad hoc (DeclareGraphicsRule...) > > > > > > tout ceci est documenté et faqé et tout ce qu'on veut depuis > > > tellement longtemps que ça doit effectivement avoir été > > > oublié depuis ! > > > > Par pitié pour mon incompétence, une référence aurait été la > > bienvenue ici, mais google doit pouvoir faire le boulot ! > Voici ce que je mets dans mon préambule > \DeclareGraphicsRule{*}{mps}{*}{} > et je n'ai pas de pb avec pdflatex Grand merci ! Effectivement à ce moment-là pdflatex compile parfaitement ; mais c'est latex qui renvoie l'erreur : can not include graphic of type: mps. Vous allez trouver que je suis exigeant mais n'y a-t-il pas un moyen que les deux soient contents ? Ce n'est pas très agréables de devoir enlever ou commenter une ligne dans le source selon ce qu'on veut faire. Pierre > > -- > Yvon Henel, TeXnicien de surface From - Wed Sep 10 16:18:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr (smtp19.orange.fr [80.12.242.17]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8AEHsOM020699 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:17:59 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1909.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E90D11C000B9 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:17:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (ALille-251-1-7-110.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.149.110]) by mwinf1909.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B6DE11C00085 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:17:53 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080910141753749.B6DE11C00085@mwinf1909.orange.fr From: "Yvon Henel (TdS)" To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] pdf+metapost Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:17:45 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 20070904.708012) References: <115441778.20080910143155@ujf-grenoble.fr> <200809101548.11156.yvon.henel@orange.fr> <20080910.160735.115929017.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> In-Reply-To: <20080910.160735.115929017.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> X-Face: $1WU:${_MU*`jL~4Bj(E@3R_=Z9?SPQC:3=T/u-CPbGVM1vzFB'DS!_D)=?utf-8?q?=266zsCxf=7DA=7BdL-=0A=09=7C*UbYq8J?="i#"Gv$`hZyMlk0+F$3N@0{44*/s.crcwRD2!U{VQ~? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2134734.3ngi28hX3p"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200809101617.52257.yvon.henel@orange.fr> X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:17:59 +0200 (CEST) --nextPart2134734.3ngi28hX3p Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Le mercredi 10 septembre 2008, Pierre Lorenzon a =E9crit=A0: > From: "Yvon Henel (TdS)" > > Voici ce que je mets dans mon pr=E9ambule > > \DeclareGraphicsRule{*}{mps}{*}{} > > et je n'ai pas de pb avec pdflatex > > Grand merci ! Effectivement =E0 ce moment-l=E0 pdflatex compile > parfaitement ; mais c'est latex qui renvoie l'erreur : > can not include graphic of type: mps. Vous allez trouver que > je suis exigeant mais n'y a-t-il pas un moyen que les deux > soient contents ? Ce n'est pas tr=E8s agr=E9ables de devoir > enlever ou commenter une ligne dans le source selon ce qu'on > veut faire. Alors, on charge l'extension ifpdf \usepackage{ifpdf} puis on peut =E9crire \ifpdf\DeclareGraphicsRule{*}{mps}{*}{}\fi et =E7a devrait marcher --=20 Yvon Henel, TeXnicien de surface --nextPart2134734.3ngi28hX3p Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBIx9cQ7XZYcGKSgf4RApKiAKDYAgugmgBd6iKJYO2V9BPJ+TA62ACg7Dnf R8ptvJAeMMl3pCIcf1+Xusg= =wYFw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart2134734.3ngi28hX3p-- From - Wed Sep 10 16:18:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from asmtpout025.mac.com (asmtpout025.mac.com [17.148.16.100]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8AEILpc020919 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:18:27 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Received: from [10.0.1.2] (ANancy-258-1-69-124.w90-13.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.13.92.124]) by asmtp025.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.03 (built Aug 7 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0K6Z002NSH2IOA10@asmtp025.mac.com> for gut@ens.fr; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:18:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-id: <1FF09C66-3841-4E1F-82EB-BAFC67CC71DD@mac.com> From: Frank STENGEL To: gut@ens.fr In-reply-to: <20080910.160735.115929017.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> Subject: Re: [gut] pdf+metapost Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:18:17 +0200 References: <115441778.20080910143155@ujf-grenoble.fr> <20080910.145429.59674276.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> <200809101548.11156.yvon.henel@orange.fr> <20080910.160735.115929017.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:18:27 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8AEILpc020919 Le 10 sept. 08 à 16:07, Pierre Lorenzon a écrit : >> Voici ce que je mets dans mon préambule >> \DeclareGraphicsRule{*}{mps}{*}{} >> et je n'ai pas de pb avec pdflatex > > Grand merci ! Effectivement à ce moment-là pdflatex compile > parfaitement ; mais c'est latex qui renvoie l'erreur : > can not include graphic of type: mps. Vous allez trouver que > je suis exigeant mais n'y a-t-il pas un moyen que les deux > soient contents ? Ce n'est pas très agréables de devoir > enlever ou commenter une ligne dans le source selon ce qu'on > veut faire. Faire appel a l'extension ifpdf pour avoir un code du type \usepackage{ifpdf} \ifpdf \DeclareGraphicsRule{*}{mps}{*} \fi Qui permet de filtrer les commandes à n'utiliser que si la sortie est effectivement en pdf... -- Frank STENGEL (fstengelmac.com) From - Wed Sep 10 16:19:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (smtp6-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.36]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8AEJ5LZ021292 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:19:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F613172E9 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:19:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (vig38-2-82-225-223-57.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.223.57]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8BC9172C6 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:19:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:15:09 +0200 From: Thierry Bouche X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.14) Educational Organization: Nonsense Inc. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1438127680.20080910161509@ujf-grenoble.fr> To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] pdf+metapost In-Reply-To: <20080910.160735.115929017.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> References: <115441778.20080910143155@ujf-grenoble.fr> <20080910.145429.59674276.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> <200809101548.11156.yvon.henel@orange.fr> <20080910.160735.115929017.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:19:10 +0200 (CEST) >> Voici ce que je mets dans mon préambule >> \DeclareGraphicsRule{*}{mps}{*}{} >> et je n'ai pas de pb avec pdflatex PL> Grand merci ! Effectivement à ce moment-là pdflatex compile PL> parfaitement ; mais c'est latex qui renvoie l'erreur : latex par opposition à pdflatex ? il faudrait savoir ce que vous essayez de faire... S'il s'agit d'un fichier qui doit compiler aussi bien en mode dvi qu'en mode pdf, un petit passage par l'extension ifpdf s'impose ! \ifpdf \DeclareGraphicsRule{*}{mps}{*}{} \else \DeclareGraphicsRule{*}{eps}{*}{} \fi p.ex. PL> can not include graphic of type: mps. -- Cordialement, Thierry From - Wed Sep 10 16:26:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2e.orange.fr (smtp2e.orange.fr [80.12.242.113]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8AEPr8T024559 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:25:58 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2e22.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 76237700009B for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:25:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (APuteaux-154-1-68-218.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.249.51.218]) by mwinf2e22.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2943B7000097; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:25:53 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080910142553169.2943B7000097@mwinf2e22.orange.fr Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:25:50 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <20080910.162550.48514580.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> To: gut@ens.fr, yvon.henel@orange.fr Subject: Re: [gut] pdf+metapost From: Pierre Lorenzon In-Reply-To: <200809101617.52257.yvon.henel@orange.fr> References: <200809101548.11156.yvon.henel@orange.fr> <20080910.160735.115929017.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> <200809101617.52257.yvon.henel@orange.fr> X-Mailer: Mew version 5.1 on Emacs 22.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:25:58 +0200 (CEST) From: "Yvon Henel (TdS)" Subject: Re: [gut] pdf+metapost Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:17:45 +0200 > Le mercredi 10 septembre 2008, Pierre Lorenzon a écrit : > > From: "Yvon Henel (TdS)" > > > Voici ce que je mets dans mon préambule > > > \DeclareGraphicsRule{*}{mps}{*}{} > > > et je n'ai pas de pb avec pdflatex > > > > Grand merci ! Effectivement à ce moment-là pdflatex compile > > parfaitement ; mais c'est latex qui renvoie l'erreur : > > can not include graphic of type: mps. Vous allez trouver que > > je suis exigeant mais n'y a-t-il pas un moyen que les deux > > soient contents ? Ce n'est pas très agréables de devoir > > enlever ou commenter une ligne dans le source selon ce qu'on > > veut faire. > Alors, on charge l'extension ifpdf > \usepackage{ifpdf} > puis on peut écrire > \ifpdf\DeclareGraphicsRule{*}{mps}{*}{}\fi > > et ça devrait marcher ET ça marche ! Merci encore. Pierre > > > -- > Yvon Henel, TeXnicien de surface From - Wed Sep 10 16:51:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from yx-out-2324.google.com (yx-out-2324.google.com [74.125.44.28]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8AEpCad037512 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:51:24 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: by yx-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 3so1316821yxj.79 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:51:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=X3rekSM6phjQ11WWQq7wXmntJ2nKON7I3GHLiYuKKvg=; b=HW4fJs/jNlxdlkQMLYQdTgePuFil5K0k0bHQesXzb70EGS2LT9DWNqvl98iz/g5zKK g9neVBUu5xNHp40mkgIn/43VzAYe9JtNYDvwdaHpa0XH426PTvahP3kw4djp095lRPMC X5HhB5oD7H3TDwIkqm+PDtiJbdU3D6h6ljeao= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=pILewmvdX834r6wFWMJfHevp8Nz/TRkLwY/cg23MeRPhThEnd4IIzY1Ql8zX0wsEG7 ANhvoQQyKihmH0HIQo+fyW9Ga3zLG543LA0HrfPenogLTWJ/p3KipsPsdbis+HvHLQD0 BPgilU+yhhosm05S80HPSD47KqonmbV3yZbrQ= Received: by 10.142.186.9 with SMTP id j9mr462503wff.115.1221058271167; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.153.17 with HTTP; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:51:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7383f6650809100751l2fbd9dc4v6300b7bd93899f6b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:51:11 +0200 From: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?P=E9tiard_Fran=E7ois?=" Sender: petiard.francois@gmail.com To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] pdf+metapost In-Reply-To: <20080910.162550.48514580.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200809101548.11156.yvon.henel@orange.fr> <20080910.160735.115929017.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> <200809101617.52257.yvon.henel@orange.fr> <20080910.162550.48514580.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7b9914ce32f512cc X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:51:24 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8AEpCad037512 Le 10 septembre 2008 16:25, Pierre Lorenzon a écrit : > From: "Yvon Henel (TdS)" > Subject: Re: [gut] pdf+metapost > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:17:45 +0200 > > ET ça marche ! > > Merci encore. > > Pierre Personnellement, j'utilise la commande filenametemplate de MetaPost (depuis la version 1.000) pour produire directement des fichiers ayant l'extension .mps, comme dans l'exemple suivant : %%%%%%%%%%%%%%% COUPER ICI %%%%%%%%%%%% verbatimtex %&latex \documentclass{article} \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \usepackage{lmodern} \begin{document} etex; filenametemplate "%j_%c.mps"; prologues:=3; beginfig(1); draw unitsquare scaled(1cm); label.bot(btex Carré etex,(.5cm,0)); endfig; beginfig(2); draw fullcircle scaled(1cm); label.bot(btex Cercle etex,(0,-.5cm)); endfig; end %%%%%%%%%%%%%%% COUPER ICI %%%%%%%%%%%% Si vous sauvez ce fichier sous le nom test.mp, la compilation avec MetaPost va donner directement deux fichiers test_1.mps et test_2.mps Ensuite, le fichier LaTeX qui inclura ces deux images aura la structure suivante : %%%%%%%%%%%%%%% COUPER ICI %%%%%%%%%%%% \documentclass[a4paper,12pt,leqno]{book} \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \usepackage{lmodern} \usepackage[francais]{babel} \usepackage[autolanguage]{numprint} \usepackage{graphicx} \pagestyle{empty} \usepackage{ifpdf} \ifpdf\else \makeatletter \edef\Gin@extensions{\Gin@extensions,.mps} \makeatother \DeclareGraphicsRule{.mps}{eps}{*}{} \fi \begin{document} \includegraphics{test_1} \includegraphics{test_2} \end{document} %%%%%%%%%%%%%%% COUPER ICI %%%%%%%%%%%% et ce fichier se compile aussi bien en latex qu'en pdflatex. François Pétiard From - Wed Sep 10 17:00:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp27.orange.fr (smtp27.orange.fr [80.12.242.95]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8AExmTB041733 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:59:54 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2713.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 98CB21C000AE; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:59:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (APuteaux-154-1-68-218.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.249.51.218]) by mwinf2713.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5157C1C000B1; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:59:48 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080910145948333.5157C1C000B1@mwinf2713.orange.fr Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:59:45 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <20080910.165945.260098004.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> To: gut@ens.fr, Thierry.Bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr Subject: Re: [gut] pdf+metapost From: Pierre Lorenzon In-Reply-To: <1438127680.20080910161509@ujf-grenoble.fr> References: <200809101548.11156.yvon.henel@orange.fr> <20080910.160735.115929017.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> <1438127680.20080910161509@ujf-grenoble.fr> X-Mailer: Mew version 5.1 on Emacs 22.1 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:59:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Thierry Bouche Subject: Re: [gut] pdf+metapost Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:15:09 +0200 > > >> Voici ce que je mets dans mon préambule > >> \DeclareGraphicsRule{*}{mps}{*}{} > >> et je n'ai pas de pb avec pdflatex > > PL> Grand merci ! Effectivement à ce moment-là pdflatex compile > PL> parfaitement ; mais c'est latex qui renvoie l'erreur : > > latex par opposition à pdflatex ? il faudrait savoir ce que vous > essayez de faire... Tout à la fois ce qui n'est pas très rationnel certes ! > S'il s'agit d'un fichier qui doit compiler aussi > bien en mode dvi qu'en mode pdf, un petit passage par l'extension > ifpdf s'impose ! Certes ! je ne la connaissais pas. Mais effectivement c'est ce que je souhaite : que le fichier puisse aussi bien être compilé avec pdflatex qu'avec latex. > > \ifpdf > \DeclareGraphicsRule{*}{mps}{*}{} > \else > \DeclareGraphicsRule{*}{eps}{*}{} > \fi > > p.ex. Oui ça fonctionne même sans le \else mais c'est peut-être plus propre avec. Bien à vous Pierre From - Wed Sep 10 17:42:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (smtp6-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.36]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8AFfhqc062170 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:41:54 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE1F1728F for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:41:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (vig38-2-82-225-223-57.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.223.57]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86EE17248 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:41:39 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:41:19 +0200 From: Thierry Bouche X-Mailer: The Bat! (v4.0.14) Educational Organization: Nonsense Inc. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1697067447.20080910174119@ujf-grenoble.fr> To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] pdf+metapost In-Reply-To: <20080910.165945.260098004.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> References: <200809101548.11156.yvon.henel@orange.fr> <20080910.160735.115929017.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> <1438127680.20080910161509@ujf-grenoble.fr> <20080910.165945.260098004.devel@pollock-nageoire.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:41:54 +0200 (CEST) PL> Oui ça fonctionne même sans le \else mais c'est peut-être PL> plus propre avec. aucune idée. Je n'ai pas utilisé dvips depuis une dizaine d'années. Je crois que le driver dvips de graphics considère que tout ce qui est inconnu est de l'eps (ce qui revient à dire que la ligne que j'ai mise après \else existe déjà, ce qui serait confirmé par les autres réponses qui semblent provenir de gens qui savent de quoi ils parlent, eux !) Th. From - Wed Sep 10 17:48:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (smtp5-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.35]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8AFm5HN064978 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:48:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39FF61C74A7; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:48:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (pla25-1-82-225-17-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.17.10]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E781C7468; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:47:59 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48C7EC37.8020607@univ-fcomte.fr> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:48:07 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?P=E9tiard_Fran=E7ois?= Reply-To: gut@ens.fr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr CC: devel@pollock-nageoire.net Subject: Re: [gut] pdf+metapost Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 080909-0, 09/09/2008), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:48:10 +0200 (CEST) Le 10 septembre 2008 16:25, Pierre Lorenzon a écrit : > Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:17:45 +0200 > > ET ça marche ! > > Merci encore. > > Pierre Personnellement, j'utilise la commande filenametemplate de MetaPost (depuis la version 1.000) pour produire directement des fichiers ayant l'extension .mps, comme dans l'exemple suivant : %%%%%%%%%%%%%%% COUPER ICI %%%%%%%%%%%% verbatimtex %&latex \documentclass{article} \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \usepackage{lmodern} \begin{document} etex; filenametemplate "%j_%c.mps"; prologues:=3; beginfig(1); draw unitsquare scaled(1cm); label.bot(btex Carré etex,(.5cm,0)); endfig; beginfig(2); draw fullcircle scaled(1cm); label.bot(btex Cercle etex,(0,-.5cm)); endfig; end %%%%%%%%%%%%%%% COUPER ICI %%%%%%%%%%%% Si vous sauvez ce fichier sous le nom test.mp, la compilation avec MetaPost va donner directement deux fichiers test_1.mps et test_2.mps Ensuite, le fichier LaTeX qui inclura ces deux images aura la structure suivante : %%%%%%%%%%%%%%% COUPER ICI %%%%%%%%%%%% \documentclass[a4paper,12pt,leqno]{book} \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \usepackage{lmodern} \usepackage[francais]{babel} \usepackage[autolanguage]{numprint} \usepackage{graphicx} \pagestyle{empty} \usepackage{ifpdf} \ifpdf\else \makeatletter \edef\Gin@extensions{\Gin@extensions,.mps} \makeatother \DeclareGraphicsRule{.mps}{eps}{*}{} \fi \begin{document} \includegraphics{test_1} \includegraphics{test_2} \end{document} %%%%%%%%%%%%%%% COUPER ICI %%%%%%%%%%%% et ce fichier se compile aussi bien en latex qu'en pdflatex. François Pétiard From - Wed Sep 10 18:09:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2e.orange.fr (smtp2e.orange.fr [80.12.242.113]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8AG9fd0074275 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:09:47 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2e21.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7DCBA70000A5 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:09:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.148] (AToulouse-254-1-67-143.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.49.78.143]) by mwinf2e21.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 328017000093 for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:09:41 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080910160941206.328017000093@mwinf2e21.orange.fr Message-ID: <48C7F144.1080706@wanadoo.fr> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:09:40 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-C=F4me_Charpentier?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] plus grand que \Huge References: <48C64F6A.7090708@wanadoo.fr> <20080909170553.GA4314@club-internet.fr> <48C6B01F.7050101@cmap.polytechnique.fr> <48C6B474.4000609@wanadoo.fr> <48C6E342.8080407@cmap.polytechnique.fr> In-Reply-To: <48C6E342.8080407@cmap.polytechnique.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:09:47 +0200 (CEST) Erwan Le Pennec a écrit : > > Jean-Côme Charpentier wrote: >>> [...] >>> \newcommand\MORETHANHUGE{\@setfontsize \Huge{51,59780}{62}} >>> >>> fonctionne chez moi. >> >> C'est presque ça. Il y avait une petite merde au niveau du copié >> collé. Mais ce n'est pas \Huge qu'il faut laisser, c'est \Huge qu'il >> faut virer :-) >> >> Donc >> [...] >> \makeatletter >> \newcommand\MORETHANHUGE{\@setfontsize \MORETHANHUGE {51,59780}{62}} >> \makeatother >> > Erwan qui avait une chance sur deux :( > > PS: Quelle était l'effet secondaire de ma proposition ratée? En temps normal, il ne va pas y avoir de quoi fouetter un chat mais bon : \documentclass[a4paper]{article} \usepackage[latin9]{inputenc} \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \usepackage[frenchb]{babel} \makeatletter \newcommand\MORETHANHUGE{\@setfontsize \tagadatsointsoin {51,59780}{62}} \makeatother \begin{document} $\MORETHANHUGE \Delta=b^{2}-4ac$ \end{document} produit un avertissement peu explicite :-) Une autre source potentielle d'erreur est que la macro \@currsize va prendre la valeur indiquée en premier argument de \@setfontsize. Ce n'est pas utilisé par LaTeX mais on ne sait jamais, quelqu'un pourrait en avoir besoin. Jean-Côme Charpentier From - Thu Sep 11 11:57:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com (gv-out-0910.google.com [216.239.58.191]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8B9v5tV047646 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:57:11 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id n29so208780gve.38 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 02:57:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=nQgd0vuOriZL5aQuSU1OB38pooeUyk6rEqhgOqMdEpM=; b=g5GPjJ6BSdoQl7ADL1YSPmtfooRZ/R8QkQQ2F0bmogIJ8OzbPdYm+efzgV3skVNW2U 4x9y8VOEdqcE7QnEzHz7R+AAZUhJRM3zDnUwQx/4LyPguXot3SUOVUGAcAXkmZ+J+TsT YsCo5uJSXif3G3E7dU22dbqpIOu6eHljDHe2Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=P2u7ErSaPj0fUfvtFi4O5eNGG+K6LKHEuaToAVpwMbZCGlZKNTsGZTCZWdIab3LW9y zJheJR/rIoWHibq1LF7SbcopgWjxH6E3wrhTelHaae8IEADfV0l6ZgKFCf9L/IwZZuZH 3pGp4oUscv2HgZGGmLre6rx2wXLTtl2J8pqg4= Received: by 10.86.83.2 with SMTP id g2mr1846156fgb.54.1221127025271; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 02:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.59.12 with HTTP; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 02:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:57:05 +0200 From: "Olivier Guichard" To: gut@ens.fr Subject: vers, clef de sol MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:57:11 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8B9v5tV047646 Bonjour, c'est certainement un marronnier mais je n'ai pas trouver les renseignements en fouinant sur la toile. Je cherche à mettre en page des poèmes et que les fins des vers trop longs soient justifiées à droite et introduites par un crochet ouvrant [. L'environnement verse ne propose apparemment qu'une identation. Mon autre question : comment obtenir une clé de sol seule. J'aurais besoin d'utiliser ce symbole au cours du texte, j'imagine qu'il doit y avoir un moyen d'utiliser les polices de musixtex (que j'ai installé) mais je n'ai pas trouvé comment faire. Merci de vos réponses, Olivier From - Thu Sep 11 12:32:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2e.orange.fr (smtp2e.orange.fr [80.12.242.111]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8BAVraD064928 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:32:07 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2e28.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 33A69700009B for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:31:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from KUBUNTU64 (AStrasbourg-156-1-53-113.w81-51.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.51.208.113]) by mwinf2e28.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E16CB7000096 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:31:51 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080911103151923.E16CB7000096@mwinf2e28.orange.fr Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:31:53 +0200 From: "R. Bastian" To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] vers, clef de sol Message-Id: <20080911123153.54b0bdd3.rbastian@free.fr> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.4.5 (GTK+ 2.12.0; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:32:07 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8BAVraD064928 On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:57:05 +0200 "Olivier Guichard" wrote: > Bonjour, > [...] > Mon autre question : comment obtenir une clé de sol seule. J'aurais > besoin d'utiliser ce symbole au cours du texte, j'imagine qu'il doit y > avoir un moyen d'utiliser les polices de musixtex (que j'ai installé) > mais je n'ai pas trouvé comment faire. > > Merci de vos réponses, > > Olivier > > Dans le fichier 'cmn-glyphs.lisp' de la CommonMusicNotation de Bill Schottstaedt il y a une description vectorielle des clés (elle dérive d'ailleurs de musixtex). Je pense qu'en apprenant une pincée de postscript, cela doit être adaptable. -- R. Bastian www.musiques-rb.org http://www.centrotemporeale.it/index.php?lang=it&sez=news&id=20080926 From - Thu Sep 11 12:44:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from amazone1.ujf-grenoble.fr (amazone1.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.254]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8BAhwQl070599 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:43:58 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr (tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.24.22]) by amazone1.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7/Configured by JE 21 07 2006) with ESMTP id m8BAhwnm009023 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:43:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D74256479 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:43:55 +0200 (CEST) X-UJF-AV: Scanned on tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr Received: from tibre2.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre2.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.24.10]) by tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE8B56456 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:43:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.15]) by tibre2.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/GB-Aout08) with ESMTP id m8BAhs25016340 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:43:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from thierry.bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55C3D2C36 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:43:58 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr Received: from fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LkAGgWfgZxoJ for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:43:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from euclide.ujf-grenoble.fr (euclide.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.48.255.207]) by fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA03CD2C1D for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:43:58 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:43:33 +0200 From: Thierry Bouche Organization: Institut Fourier X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <143232638.20080911124333@ujf-grenoble.fr> To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] vers, clef de sol In-Reply-To: <20080911123153.54b0bdd3.rbastian@free.fr> References: <20080911123153.54b0bdd3.rbastian@free.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:43:58 +0200 (CEST) Bonjour, Le jeudi 11 septembre 2008, vers 12:31:53, R. Bastian écrivit : R> On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:57:05 +0200 R> "Olivier Guichard" wrote: >> Bonjour, >> R> [...] >> Mon autre question : comment obtenir une clé de sol seule. J'aurais >> besoin d'utiliser ce symbole au cours du texte, j'imagine qu'il doit y >> avoir un moyen d'utiliser les polices de musixtex (que j'ai installé) >> mais je n'ai pas trouvé comment faire. >> >> Merci de vos réponses, >> >> Olivier >> >> R> Dans le fichier 'cmn-glyphs.lisp' de la CommonMusicNotation R> de Bill Schottstaedt il y a une description vectorielle des R> clés (elle dérive d'ailleurs de musixtex). Je pense qu'en R> apprenant une pincée de postscript, cela doit être adaptable. je constate que les polices de musixtex existent en type 1. on a donc la recette beaucoup plus simple : \font\musixtex=musix11 \def\clefsol{\raisebox{.5ex}{\musixtex\char'110}} (par exemple !) -- Cordialement, Thierry From - Thu Sep 11 15:50:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr (smtp19.orange.fr [80.12.242.17]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8BDo7lD051477 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:50:13 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1911.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D99231C0009D for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:50:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from omr.lan (ALyon-156-1-176-187.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.113.207.187]) by mwinf1911.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 188D71C0009B for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:50:06 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080911135006100.188D71C0009B@mwinf1911.orange.fr Message-ID: <48C9220D.6030305@wanadoo.fr> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:50:05 +0200 From: michel ROME Reply-To: Michel Rome User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; fr; rv:1.8.1.14) Gecko/20080421 Thunderbird/2.0.0.14 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: inclusion graphique pdflatex Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------030408070501010407090000" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:50:13 +0200 (CEST) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030408070501010407090000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bonjour, Je viens de lire les échanges sur metapost et pdf. Ici j'ai un autre problème je n'arrive pas à inclure des graphiques pdf. je joints un ECM. fourier-1.pdf à été fabriqué par la chaine mpost ps2pdf (mais par mptopdf c'est la mème chose) et l'autre est tiré de MAPLE et transformé par Aperçu sur Mac. Dans les deux cas pdflatex cale en me disant 'espace insuffisant sur votre disque'. Avant mon passage à TexLive 2007, je n'avais pas de problème. 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La bonne nouvelle, c'est que comme le problème est connu (mais à ma connaissance uniquement sur SPARC pour le moment), une telle version de pdftex devrait être prochaînement disponible dans les mises à jour de MacTeX. Juste pour être sûr que je ne fais pas fausse route, il serait bien d'avoir le message d'erreur exact (vient-il de pdftex ou du système ?), ainsi que l'architecture du processeur (Intel ou powerpc). Manuel. From - Thu Sep 11 17:17:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp21.orange.fr (smtp21.orange.fr [80.12.242.47]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8BFGmTL094895 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:16:54 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2108.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7D9001C000A5 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:16:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from omr.lan (ALyon-156-1-176-187.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.113.207.187]) by mwinf2108.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DF1391C00094 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:16:47 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080911151647913.DF1391C00094@mwinf2108.orange.fr Message-ID: <48C9365F.1050808@wanadoo.fr> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:16:47 +0200 From: michel ROME Reply-To: Michel Rome User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; fr; rv:1.8.1.14) Gecko/20080421 Thunderbird/2.0.0.14 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] inclusion graphique pdflatex References: <48C9220D.6030305@wanadoo.fr> <48C92EB4.5010204@elzevir.fr> In-Reply-To: <48C92EB4.5010204@elzevir.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:16:54 +0200 (CEST) Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard a écrit : > michel ROME a écrit : >> Dans les deux cas pdflatex cale en me disant 'espace insuffisant sur >> votre disque'. >> > Ah, c'est moche. > >> Avant mon passage à TexLive 2007, je n'avais pas de problème. >> > Il semblerait que ce soit un bug lié (ironiquement) au nouveau support > des gros (lire : plus de 4Go) fichiers pdf, qui se manifeste sur > certaines architectures matérielles seulement. S'agit-il d'un Mac Intel > ou de type powerpc ? > > La mauvaise nouvelle, c'est que le seul moyen de résoudre le problème, > c'est de remplacer l'exécutable pdftex par une version compilée sans > LFS. La bonne nouvelle, c'est que comme le problème est connu (mais à ma > connaissance uniquement sur SPARC pour le moment), une telle version de > pdftex devrait être prochaînement disponible dans les mises à jour de > MacTeX. > > Juste pour être sûr que je ne fais pas fausse route, il serait bien > d'avoir le message d'erreur exact (vient-il de pdftex ou du système ?), > ainsi que l'architecture du processeur (Intel ou powerpc). > Merci à tous ceux qui m'ont répondu. Mon mac est un powerbook Titanium de 1Go de mémoire, le disque a plus de 30Go de libre. architecture G4. version pdftex This is pdfTeX, Version 3.141592-1.40.7 (Web2C 7.5.6) voici la sortie de la commande ============ omr:~/Desktop/LIVRE/ECM michel$ pdflatex ECM This is pdfTeX, Version 3.141592-1.40.7 (Web2C 7.5.6) entering extended mode (./ECM.tex LaTeX2e <2005/12/01> Babel and hyphenation patterns for english, dumylang, nohyphenation, ge rman, ngerman, french, loaded. (/usr/local/gwTeX/texmf.texlive/tex/latex/base/book.cls Document Class: book 2005/09/16 v1.4f Standard LaTeX document class (/usr/local/gwTeX/texmf.texlive/tex/latex/base/bk11.clo)) (/usr/local/gwTeX/texmf.texlive/tex/latex/geometry/geometry.sty (/usr/local/gwTeX/texmf.texlive/tex/latex/graphics/keyval.sty) (/usr/local/gwTeX/texmf.texlive/tex/xelatex/xetexconfig/geometry.cfg)) (/usr/local/gwTeX/texmf.texlive/tex/latex/graphics/graphicx.sty (/usr/local/gwTeX/texmf.texlive/tex/latex/graphics/graphics.sty (/usr/local/gwTeX/texmf.texlive/tex/latex/graphics/trig.sty) (/usr/local/gwTeX/texmf.texlive/tex/latex/config/graphics.cfg) (/usr/local/gwTeX/texmf.texlive/tex/latex/pdftex-def/pdftex.def))) (/usr/local/gwTeX/texmf.texlive/tex/generic/babel/babel.sty (/Users/michel/Library/texmf/tex/latex/babel/frenchb.ldf (/usr/local/gwTeX/texmf.texlive/tex/generic/babel/babel.def) ************************************* * Local config file frenchb.cfg used * (/usr/local/gwTeX/texmf.texlive/tex/generic/babel/frenchb.cfg))) (/usr/local/gwTeX/texmf.texlive/tex/latex/base/fontenc.sty (/usr/local/gwTeX/texmf.texlive/tex/latex/base/t1enc.def)) (/usr/local/gwTeX/texmf.texlive/tex/latex/lm/lmodern.sty) (/usr/local/gwTeX/texmf.texlive/tex/latex/base/inputenc.sty (/usr/local/gwTeX/texmf.texlive/tex/latex/base/latin1.def)) No file ECM.aux. (/usr/local/gwTeX/texmf.texlive/tex/latex/lm/t1lmr.fd) (/usr/local/gwTeX/texmf.texlive/tex/context/base/supp-pdf.tex [Loading MPS to PDF converter (version 2006.09.02).] ) Overfull \hbox (0.24533pt too wide) in paragraph at lines 14--15 [][] [1{/usr/loca l/gwTeX/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map} <./G1plot1.pdf> <./four ier-1.pdf>] (./ECM.aux) ) (see the transcript file for additional information){/usr/local/gwTeX/texmf.tex live/fonts/enc/dvips/lm/lm-ec.enc}pdflatex: ECM: No space left on device omr:~/Desktop/LIVRE/ECM michel$ ----------------- Il y a interaction avec le système car pendant l'exécution, le déchargement de TeXLive2008 qui se faisait en parallèle c'est interrompu avec le message 'manque de place sur le disque'. TeXLive2008 pourra-t-il regler le problème? Où faut-il plutôt rechercher une veille version. PS : Qu'est ce LFS ? encore remerciements. From - Thu Sep 11 17:35:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp23.orange.fr (smtp23.orange.fr [80.12.242.97]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8BFZGGl003210 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:35:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2306.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 99CE21C00091 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:35:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Fertel.home (ARennes-358-1-70-178.w90-54.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.54.13.178]) by mwinf2306.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 709401C00086 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:35:16 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080911153516461.709401C00086@mwinf2306.orange.fr Message-Id: <1131F829-AA0B-4FF8-B9D9-C667644F0799@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jacques_Andr=E9?= To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Hetzel_on_gut?= In-Reply-To: <48C9365F.1050808@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Re: [gut] inclusion graphique pdflatex Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:35:15 +0200 References: <48C9220D.6030305@wanadoo.fr> <48C92EB4.5010204@elzevir.fr> <48C9365F.1050808@wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:35:22 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8BFZGGl003210 Le 11 sept. 2008 à 17:16, michel ROME a écrit : >> >> > Merci à tous ceux qui m'ont répondu. > et surtout à ceux qui ont pris la précaution de changer le champ reply- to qui, anormalement, renvoie à vous seul. En général il n'y a aucune justification à celà... surtout pas pour une liste où justement l'esprit est que tout le monde reçoit les réponses à une quesiton posée ! Merci donc de corriger votre champ reply-to -- Jacques ANDRÉ From - Thu Sep 11 18:06:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr (smtp19.orange.fr [80.12.242.19]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8BG5qL9017315 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:05:58 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1928.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CB86C1C000B5 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:05:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from omr.lan (ALyon-156-1-176-187.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.113.207.187]) by mwinf1928.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 639531C000AA for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:05:52 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080911160552407.639531C000AA@mwinf1928.orange.fr Message-ID: <48C941DF.3000709@wanadoo.fr> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:05:51 +0200 From: michel ROME User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; fr; rv:1.8.1.14) Gecko/20080421 Thunderbird/2.0.0.14 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] inclusion graphique pdflatex References: <48C9220D.6030305@wanadoo.fr> <48C92EB4.5010204@elzevir.fr> <48C9365F.1050808@wanadoo.fr> <1131F829-AA0B-4FF8-B9D9-C667644F0799@orange.fr> In-Reply-To: <1131F829-AA0B-4FF8-B9D9-C667644F0799@orange.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:05:58 +0200 (CEST) Jacques André a écrit : > > > Le 11 sept. 2008 à 17:16, michel ROME a écrit : >>> >>> >> Merci à tous ceux qui m'ont répondu. >> > > > et surtout à ceux qui ont pris la précaution de changer le champ > reply-to qui, anormalement, renvoie à vous seul. > En général il n'y a aucune justification à celà... > surtout pas pour une liste où justement l'esprit est que tout le monde > reçoit les réponses à une quesiton posée ! > > Merci donc de corriger votre champ reply-to > > -- > Jacques ANDRÉ > Effectivement! C'est rectifié. Je crois que tout le monde à reçu la réponse de Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard. Les autres comme vous même me disaient que tout allait bien chez eux. J'ai pris connaissance de votre .log et j'ai vu que votre pdftex était juste un peu plus vieux que le mien. cordialement From - Thu Sep 11 18:29:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8BGTXdm027687 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:29:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from math.jussieu.fr (mail.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.55]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id m8BGTW2N079670 ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:29:32 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 166 Received: from [134.157.12.15] (host-12-15.dhcp.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.12.15]) (authenticated bits=0) by math.jussieu.fr (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8BGTVOE021231 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:29:31 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48C94767.7050900@elzevir.fr> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:29:27 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Manuel_P=E9gouri=E9-Gonnard?= User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michel Rome CC: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] inclusion graphique pdflatex References: <48C9220D.6030305@wanadoo.fr> <48C92EB4.5010204@elzevir.fr> <48C9365F.1050808@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <48C9365F.1050808@wanadoo.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 OpenPGP: url=http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x50A89B42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/8219/Thu Sep 11 17:02:39 2008 on shiva.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94, clamav-milter version 0.94 on mail.math.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Miltered: at jchkmail.jussieu.fr with ID 48C9476C.00B by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 48C9476C.00B/134.157.13.55/mail.math.jussieu.fr/math.jussieu.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 48C9476C.00B on jchkmail.jussieu.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.004 -> S=0.004 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:29:33 +0200 (CEST) michel ROME a écrit : > Mon mac est un powerbook Titanium de 1Go de mémoire, le disque a plus de > 30Go de libre. architecture G4. > Ok, donc c'est très certainement le problème que j'évoquais, qui pour l'intant ne se manifeste que sur les architectures « big-endian » dont le powerpc G4 fait partie. > Il y a interaction avec le système car pendant l'exécution, le > déchargement de TeXLive2008 qui se faisait en parallèle c'est interrompu > avec le message 'manque de place sur le disque'. > Oui, en fait le bug force pdftesx à produire des fichiers anormalement gros (et c'est peu dire), ce qui explique qu'un peut arriver à saturer réellement le disque dur. > TeXLive2008 pourra-t-il regler le problème? Où faut-il plutôt rechercher > une veille version. > Si c'est urgent, une vieille version peut dépanner en attendant. Sinon, le problème sera réglé dans une mise à jour prochaine de TeX Live (donc de MacTeX). Il faudra juste lancer le gestionnaire et tout mettre à jour (tlmgr update --all en ligne de commande, ou avec la version graphique). > PS : Qu'est ce LFS ? > Large File Support, l'option qui permet à pdftex d'inclure des fichiers pdf de plus de 4Go. Ce qui est marrant, c'est que le bug dans son implémentation actuelle produit justement des ficheirs énorme, mais totalement par hasard (le bug est un problème de conversion implicite entre duex type d'entiers si j'ai bien suivi, c'est pour ça qu'a priori ça dépend de « l'endianness » du processeur). Manuel. From - Thu Sep 11 19:39:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2a.orange.fr (smtp2a.orange.fr [80.12.242.139]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8BHdKpn057713 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:39:32 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2a07.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BDE5F7001B7A for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:47:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from omr.lan (ALyon-156-1-176-187.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.113.207.187]) by mwinf2a07.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3B5707003C10 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:34:49 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080911163449244.3B5707003C10@mwinf2a07.orange.fr Message-ID: <48C948A8.6080405@wanadoo.fr> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:34:48 +0200 From: michel ROME User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; fr; rv:1.8.1.14) Gecko/20080421 Thunderbird/2.0.0.14 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] inclusion graphique pdflatex References: <48C9220D.6030305@wanadoo.fr> <48C92EB4.5010204@elzevir.fr> <48C9365F.1050808@wanadoo.fr> <48C94767.7050900@elzevir.fr> In-Reply-To: <48C94767.7050900@elzevir.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:39:32 +0200 (CEST) Encore une chose : jusqu'à quelle version faut-il revenir ? From - Thu Sep 11 20:13:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from phare.normalesup.org (phare.normalesup.org [129.199.129.80]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8BICxuL070823 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:12:59 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: by phare.normalesup.org (Postfix, from userid 1008) id 33E09BC0A0; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:12:59 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:12:59 +0200 From: Arthur Reutenauer To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] inclusion graphique pdflatex Message-ID: <20080911181259.GH21092@phare.normalesup.org> Reply-To: gut@ens.fr References: <48C9220D.6030305@wanadoo.fr> <48C92EB4.5010204@elzevir.fr> <48C9365F.1050808@wanadoo.fr> <48C94767.7050900@elzevir.fr> <48C948A8.6080405@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <48C948A8.6080405@wanadoo.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:12:59 +0200 (CEST) > Encore une chose : jusqu'à quelle version faut-il revenir ? N'importe laquelle sauf celle de TeX Live 2008. Arthur From - Thu Sep 11 20:46:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8BIkH4H082783 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:46:17 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from math.jussieu.fr (mail.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.55]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id m8BIkGtA043801 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:46:17 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 168 Received: from [192.168.0.124] (elzevir.fr [88.165.216.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by math.jussieu.fr (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8BIkEAY040635 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:46:15 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48C96776.1070909@elzevir.fr> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:46:14 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Manuel_P=E9gouri=E9-Gonnard?= User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] inclusion graphique pdflatex References: <48C9220D.6030305@wanadoo.fr> <48C92EB4.5010204@elzevir.fr> <48C9365F.1050808@wanadoo.fr> <48C94767.7050900@elzevir.fr> <48C948A8.6080405@wanadoo.fr> <20080911181259.GH21092@phare.normalesup.org> In-Reply-To: <20080911181259.GH21092@phare.normalesup.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 OpenPGP: url=http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x50A89B42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/8219/Thu Sep 11 17:02:39 2008 on shiva.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94, clamav-milter version 0.94 on mail.math.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:46:17 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.168]); Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:46:17 +0200 (CEST) X-Miltered: at jchkmail.jussieu.fr with ID 48C96778.010 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! 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From - Fri Sep 12 01:20:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8BNKMoT071816 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 01:20:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from math.jussieu.fr (mail.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.55]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id m8BNKLT9081969 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 01:20:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 165 Received: from [192.168.0.124] (elzevir.fr [88.165.216.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by math.jussieu.fr (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8BNKJ9w084824 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 01:20:20 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48C9A7B2.8030907@elzevir.fr> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 01:20:18 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Manuel_P=E9gouri=E9-Gonnard?= User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] inclusion graphique pdflatex References: <48C9220D.6030305@wanadoo.fr> <48C92EB4.5010204@elzevir.fr> <48C9365F.1050808@wanadoo.fr> <1131F829-AA0B-4FF8-B9D9-C667644F0799@orange.fr> <48C941DF.3000709@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <48C941DF.3000709@wanadoo.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 OpenPGP: url=http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x50A89B42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/8220/Thu Sep 11 23:27:09 2008 on shiva.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94, clamav-milter version 0.94 on mail.math.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 12 Sep 2008 01:20:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.165]); Fri, 12 Sep 2008 01:20:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Miltered: at jchkmail2.jussieu.fr with ID 48C98BB7.01A by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 48C98BB7.01A/134.157.13.55/mail.math.jussieu.fr/math.jussieu.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 48C98BB7.01A on jchkmail2.jussieu.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.004 -> S=0.004 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham michel ROME a écrit : > Je crois que tout le monde à reçu la réponse de Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard. Sur laquelle je vais peut-être revenir. > Les autres comme vous même me disaient que tout allait bien chez eux. Justement, il se trouve que des membres de l'équipe TeX Live ont enquêté et mené le test sur d'autres Mac powerpc, et ça marche aussi pour eux. Surtout, enquête faite, il semblerait que LFS (qui copntient le bug) n'était de toutes façons pas inclus dans les pdftex de TeXLive pour Mac. (C'est le piège : car sinon le bug est avéré sur powerpc-aix, et comme en principe ça ne dépend que du processeur...) > J'ai pris connaissance de votre .log et j'ai vu que votre pdftex était > juste un peu plus vieux que le mien. > Là j'ai du mal à comprendre : tous les pdftex pour mac de TeXlive 2008 devraient être les mêmes, non ? Puis-je vous demander de tester sur une installation TeX Live (ou MacTeX, mais en précisant) 2008 propre, faite en partant de zéro et en la laissant se terminer tranquillement jusqu'à la fin avant de lancer la compilation ? (Je ne suis pas sûr d'avoir compris le passage sur « le déchargement de TeXLive2008 qui se faisait en parallèle » dans votre autre message.) Merci, Manuel. From - Fri Sep 12 09:13:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr (smtp19.orange.fr [80.12.242.18]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8C7DO3q026534 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:13:30 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1924.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id AB4971C00091 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:13:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Fertel.home (ARennes-358-1-70-178.w90-54.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.54.13.178]) by mwinf1924.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8514F1C00086 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:13:24 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080912071324545.8514F1C00086@mwinf1924.orange.fr Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jacques_Andr=E9?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: <48C9A7B2.8030907@elzevir.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v926) Subject: Re: [gut] inclusion graphique pdflatex Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:13:22 +0200 References: <48C9220D.6030305@wanadoo.fr> <48C92EB4.5010204@elzevir.fr> <48C9365F.1050808@wanadoo.fr> <1131F829-AA0B-4FF8-B9D9-C667644F0799@orange.fr> <48C941DF.3000709@wanadoo.fr> <48C9A7B2.8030907@elzevir.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:13:30 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8C7DO3q026534 Le 12 sept. 2008 à 01:20, Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard a écrit : > > >> J'ai pris connaissance de votre .log et j'ai vu que votre pdftex >> était >> juste un peu plus vieux que le mien. >> > Là j'ai du mal à comprendre : tous les pdftex pour mac de TeXlive 2008 > devraient être les mêmes, non ? Attention... C'est mon .log dont il est question. Je ne suis encore qu'à TeXLive é007. -- Jacques ANDRÉ From - Fri Sep 12 09:51:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp27.orange.fr (smtp27.orange.fr [80.12.242.94]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8C7p0GW043656 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:51:05 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2702.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E24DE1C0008E for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:50:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from omr.lan (ALyon-156-1-176-187.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.113.207.187]) by mwinf2702.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A75201C00084 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:50:59 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080912075059685.A75201C00084@mwinf2702.orange.fr Message-ID: <48CA1F63.1010103@wanadoo.fr> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:50:59 +0200 From: michel ROME User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; fr; rv:1.8.1.14) Gecko/20080421 Thunderbird/2.0.0.14 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] inclusion graphique pdflatex References: <48C9220D.6030305@wanadoo.fr> <48C92EB4.5010204@elzevir.fr> <48C9365F.1050808@wanadoo.fr> <1131F829-AA0B-4FF8-B9D9-C667644F0799@orange.fr> <48C941DF.3000709@wanadoo.fr> <48C9A7B2.8030907@elzevir.fr> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:51:05 +0200 (CEST) Précision sur mon installation, Je suis en TeXLive 2007 mais je suis passé en pdftex 1.40.7 au courant de année. Je viens de télécharger TexLive2008 que je compte installer. Quand tout sera fait je reviendrai vous faire part du résultat. Bonne journée. From - Fri Sep 12 09:54:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8C7sGwp045183 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:54:16 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from math.jussieu.fr (mail.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.55]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id m8C7sFgo068946 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:54:16 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 166 Received: from [192.168.0.124] (elzevir.fr [88.165.216.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by math.jussieu.fr (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8C7sDHs035658 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:54:14 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48CA2025.4050407@elzevir.fr> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:54:13 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Manuel_P=E9gouri=E9-Gonnard?= User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] inclusion graphique pdflatex References: <48C9220D.6030305@wanadoo.fr> <48C92EB4.5010204@elzevir.fr> <48C9365F.1050808@wanadoo.fr> <1131F829-AA0B-4FF8-B9D9-C667644F0799@orange.fr> <48C941DF.3000709@wanadoo.fr> <48C9A7B2.8030907@elzevir.fr> <48CA1F63.1010103@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <48CA1F63.1010103@wanadoo.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 OpenPGP: url=http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x50A89B42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/8223/Fri Sep 12 07:20:44 2008 on shiva.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94, clamav-milter version 0.94 on mail.math.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Miltered: at jchkmail.jussieu.fr with ID 48CA2027.005 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 48CA2027.005/134.157.13.55/mail.math.jussieu.fr/math.jussieu.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 48CA2027.005 on jchkmail.jussieu.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.015 -> S=0.015 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:54:16 +0200 (CEST) michel ROME a écrit : > Précision sur mon installation, > Je suis en TeXLive 2007 mais je suis passé en pdftex 1.40.7 De quelle provenance, ce pdftex 1.40.7 ? Parce que visiblement c'est cette version précise qui est fautive, et pas la version de TeXLive 2008 qui a été compilée comme il fallait visiblement. > Quand tout sera fait je reviendrai vous faire part du résultat. > Ça, ça serait sympa en effet. Manuel. From - Fri Sep 12 10:23:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (smtp20.orange.fr [193.252.22.31]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8C8N5l8056940 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:23:05 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2019.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 060231C00092 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:23:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from omr.lan (ALyon-156-1-176-187.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.113.207.187]) by mwinf2019.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id AE0401C00090 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:23:04 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080912082304712.AE0401C00090@mwinf2019.orange.fr Message-ID: <48CA26E8.10107@wanadoo.fr> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:23:04 +0200 From: michel ROME User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; fr; rv:1.8.1.14) Gecko/20080421 Thunderbird/2.0.0.14 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] inclusion graphique pdflatex References: <48C9220D.6030305@wanadoo.fr> <48C92EB4.5010204@elzevir.fr> <48C9365F.1050808@wanadoo.fr> <1131F829-AA0B-4FF8-B9D9-C667644F0799@orange.fr> <48C941DF.3000709@wanadoo.fr> <48C9A7B2.8030907@elzevir.fr> <48CA1F63.1010103@wanadoo.fr> <48CA2025.4050407@elzevir.fr> In-Reply-To: <48CA2025.4050407@elzevir.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:23:05 +0200 (CEST) Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard a écrit : > michel ROME a écrit : >> Précision sur mon installation, >> Je suis en TeXLive 2007 mais je suis passé en pdftex 1.40.7 > > De quelle provenance, ce pdftex 1.40.7 ? Parce que visiblement c'est > cette version précise qui est fautive, et pas la version de TeXLive 2008 > qui a été compilée comme il fallait visiblement. > >> Quand tout sera fait je reviendrai vous faire part du résultat. >> > Ça, ça serait sympa en effet. > > Manuel. > > > Tous va très bien avec TeXLive2008. Je ne me souviens pas bien du pdftex 1.40.7 mais j'ai du suivre une annonce sur CTAN. Je suis bien puni de pas suivre le conseil que je donne aux collègues: ne pas mettre à jour ce qui donne satisfaction. Merci de ces échanges enrichissants et mes excuses pour le dérangement. Bonne journée. MR. From - Mon Sep 15 21:19:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from phare.normalesup.org (phare.normalesup.org [129.199.129.80]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8FJIw1F095021 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:18:58 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: by phare.normalesup.org (Postfix, from userid 1008) id 388DFBC0A1; Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:18:58 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:18:58 +0200 From: Arthur Reutenauer To: Liste GUT Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Journ=E9e_GUTenberg_2008_et?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?_assembl=E9e_g=E9n=E9rale?= de l'association Message-ID: <20080915191858.GH29367@phare.normalesup.org> Reply-To: Liste GUT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:18:58 +0200 (CEST) Bonjour, C'est avec grand plaisir que j'annonce, avec beaucoup de retard, la tenue de la prochaine journée GUTenberg, le lundi 6 octobre au FIAP Jean Monnet. Le thème sera « TeX et XML », avec égalemnt des présentations de quelques nouveautés d'intérêt général pour les utilisateurs de TeX, en particulier TeX Live 2008. Vous pouvez consultez le programme complet et les détails pratiques sur http://www.gutenberg.eu.org/manifestations/207-journee2008.html Ce sera également l'occasion de l'assemblée générale, à la suite de laquelle aura lieu une discussion sur l'avenir de GUTenberg dont le maintien dans l'état actuel est remis en question (ce qui remettrait en question aussi l'existence même de cette liste gut). En espérant vous voir nombreux malgré l'annonce tardive, et en encourageant tout le monde à participer à la vie de l'association, Arthur, pour le CA de GUTenberg From - Tue Sep 16 10:22:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from ciao.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8G8MFAX014948 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:22:25 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KfVp8-0004SL-49 for gut@ens.fr; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:22:14 +0000 Received: from dmn19.ec-nantes.fr ([130.66.111.19]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:22:14 +0000 Received: from giggzounet by dmn19.ec-nantes.fr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:22:14 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gut@ens.fr From: GiGGz Subject: Centrer du texte dans un environnement aligned Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:22:05 +0200 Lines: 20 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: dmn19.ec-nantes.fr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) Sender: news X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:22:25 +0200 (CEST) Bonjour, j'ai une équation du style : \begin{equation} \underbrace{\iint_{S} \mu \tenseur{grad}(\Vect{U}) \ProdSca \Vect{n}dS}_{\begin{aligned} \text{traité avec la méthode de} \\ \text{Gauss avec corrections} \end{aligned}} + \underbrace{\iint_{S} \left[ \mu \tenseur{grad}^{t}(\Vect{U}) + \lambda tr(\tenseur{\epsilon}) \Tens{I} \right] \ProdSca \Vect{n}dS}_{\begin{aligned} \text{traité explicitement} \\ \text{(envoyé dans le terme source)} \end{aligned}} = 0 \end{equation} Le texte apparaissant sous les deux "underbrace" est aligné à droite. Comment changer ce comportement et mettre le texte centré ? Merci d'avance Guillaume From - Tue Sep 16 10:31:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr (amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.2.202]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8G8UhgY018699 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:30:49 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr (tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.18.74]) by amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7/Configured by JE 21 07 2006) with ESMTP id m8G8UaPB099563 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:30:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8941B56467 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:30:43 +0200 (CEST) X-UJF-AV: Scanned on tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr Received: from tibre2.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre2.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.24.10]) by tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6724056453 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:30:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.15]) by tibre2.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/GB-Aout08) with ESMTP id m8G8UhdY058774 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:30:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from thierry.bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1671CD2DD0 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:30:44 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr Received: from fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h2SCnbeuEjHk for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:30:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from euclide.ujf-grenoble.fr (euclide.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.48.255.207]) by fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE435D013C for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:30:43 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:30:42 +0200 From: Thierry Bouche Organization: Institut Fourier X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <595237900.20080916103042@ujf-grenoble.fr> To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Centrer du texte dans un environnement aligned In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:30:49 +0200 (CEST) G> Le texte apparaissant sous les deux "underbrace" est aligné à droite. G> Comment changer ce comportement et mettre le texte centré ? remplacer aligned par gathered ? From - Tue Sep 16 10:52:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from ciao.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8G8pwau028079 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:52:09 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KfWHq-0005jz-OK for gut@ens.fr; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:51:54 +0000 Received: from dmn19.ec-nantes.fr ([130.66.111.19]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:51:54 +0000 Received: from giggzounet by dmn19.ec-nantes.fr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:51:54 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gut@ens.fr From: GiGGz Subject: Re: Centrer du texte dans un environnement aligned Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:51:44 +0200 Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <595237900.20080916103042@ujf-grenoble.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: dmn19.ec-nantes.fr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) In-Reply-To: <595237900.20080916103042@ujf-grenoble.fr> Sender: news X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:52:09 +0200 (CEST) Thierry Bouche a écrit : > G> Le texte apparaissant sous les deux "underbrace" est aligné à droite. > G> Comment changer ce comportement et mettre le texte centré ? > > remplacer aligned par gathered ? > > ok ça marche! sinon utiliser la commande \shortstack{mon text \\ blabla} From - Tue Sep 16 14:19:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.5 required=5.0 tests=SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8GCJWQ7043862 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:19:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KfZWj-0005FK-Sv for gut@ens.fr; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:19:31 +0000 Received: from dmn19.ec-nantes.fr ([130.66.111.19]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:19:29 +0000 Received: from giggzounet by dmn19.ec-nantes.fr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:19:29 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gut@ens.fr From: GiGGz Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E9finir_une_variable_logique_et_avoir?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_un_if/then/else?= Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:19:21 +0200 Lines: 16 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: dmn19.ec-nantes.fr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) Sender: news X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:19:38 +0200 (CEST) Bonjour, dans mon document je souhaiterais avoir un mode "censure" : en gros j'ai des infos qui me sont utiles personnellement, mais quine vont pas apparaitre dans le document officiel. Est il possible de définir une variable logique "censure" et de l'utiliser dans une structure du style if (censure) then info confidentielle else info inintéressante endif ??? Merci d'avance Guillaume From - Tue Sep 16 14:27:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.5 required=5.0 tests=SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp.sfr.fr (smtp-out2.sfr.fr [160.92.187.251]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8GCQpHm047277 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:26:56 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [IPv6???1] (unknown [91.69.64.189]) by msfrf0101.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6A0CBE002278 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:26:50 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20080916122650434.6A0CBE002278@msfrf0101.sfr.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: From: Pierre Albarede Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_D=E9finir_une_variable_logique_et_avoir?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_un_if/then/else?= Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:26:20 +0200 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:26:56 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8GCQpHm047277 On 16 sept. 08, at 14:19, GiGGz wrote: > dans mon document je souhaiterais avoir un mode "censure" : en gros > j'ai des infos qui me sont utiles personnellement, mais quine vont > pas apparaitre dans le document officiel. Est il possible de > définir une variable logique "censure" et de l'utiliser dans une > structure du style if (censure) then > info confidentielle > else > info inintéressante > endif > tout ce que tu ne veux pas faire apparaître dans le .pdf, mets le en commentaire dans le .tex par exemple, % là c'est une grosse magouille mais jy vais quand même, zy verrons que du feu Nous supposons dans un premier temps \[1/0=0,/] ce qui sera vérifié plus loin dans les expériences. Pierre Albarède, A rés. Valvert, 12 r. Fourane, 13090 Aix en Provence 0621991460 From - Tue Sep 16 14:29:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8GCSmck048114 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:28:49 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from math.jussieu.fr (mail.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.55]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id m8GCSl2f092650 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:28:48 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 166 Received: from [134.157.12.34] (host-12-34.dhcp.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.12.34]) (authenticated bits=0) by math.jussieu.fr (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8GCSk8C084826 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:28:46 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48CFA679.7080907@elzevir.fr> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:28:41 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Manuel_P=E9gouri=E9-Gonnard?= User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?D=E9finir_une_variable_logique_?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?et_avoir_un_if/then/else?= References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 OpenPGP: url=http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x50A89B42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/8257/Tue Sep 16 10:29:49 2008 on shiva.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94, clamav-milter version 0.94 on mail.math.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:28:49 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.166]); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:28:48 +0200 (CEST) X-Miltered: at jchkmail.jussieu.fr with ID 48CFA67F.00D by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 48CFA67F.00D/134.157.13.55/mail.math.jussieu.fr/math.jussieu.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 48CFA67F.00D on jchkmail.jussieu.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.023 -> S=0.023 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham GiGGz a écrit : > Est il possible Par principe : oui :-) > de définir une > variable logique "censure" \newif\ifcensure > et de l'utiliser dans une structure du style > if (censure) then > info confidentielle > else > info inintéressante > endif > \ifcensure Blabla confidentiel. \else Blabla public \fi Et pour choisir la valeur : \censuretrue ou \censurefalse (la valeur par défaut). Sinon, on peut faire la même chose de façon plus « LaTeXienne » avec ifthen, \newboolean{censure}, \setboolean{censure} et \ifthenselse{\boolean{censure}}{% Blabla condifentiel. }{% Blabla public. } Manuel. From - Tue Sep 16 14:35:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from salsa.ec-nantes.fr (salsa.ec-nantes.fr [130.66.33.3]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8GCZ4KA051079 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:35:09 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by salsa.ec-nantes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 172396A63 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:35:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: from salsa.ec-nantes.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (salsa [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01230-07 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:34:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from boromir.ec-nantes.fr (boromir.ec-nantes.fr [130.66.240.5]) by salsa.ec-nantes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDC146A65 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:34:59 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dmn19.ec-nantes.fr (dmn19.ec-nantes.fr [130.66.111.19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by boromir.ec-nantes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CAB84CC13 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:34:50 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48CFA7EA.1010709@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:34:50 +0200 From: GiGGz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr References: <48CFA679.7080907@elzevir.fr> In-Reply-To: <48CFA679.7080907@elzevir.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-CentraleNantes-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: Re: [gut] Définir une variable logique X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at ec-nantes.fr X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER Non-encoded 8-bit data (char E9 hex) in message header 'Subject' Subject: Re: [gut] D\351finir une varia... ^ X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:35:09 +0200 (CEST) Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard a écrit : > GiGGz a écrit : >> Est il possible > > Par principe : oui :-) > >> de définir une >> variable logique "censure" > > \newif\ifcensure > >> et de l'utiliser dans une structure du style >> if (censure) then >> info confidentielle >> else >> info inintéressante >> endif >> > \ifcensure > Blabla confidentiel. > \else > Blabla public > \fi > > Et pour choisir la valeur : \censuretrue ou \censurefalse (la valeur par > défaut). > > Sinon, on peut faire la même chose de façon plus « LaTeXienne » avec > ifthen, \newboolean{censure}, \setboolean{censure} et > > \ifthenselse{\boolean{censure}}{% > Blabla condifentiel. > }{% > Blabla public. > } > > Manuel. > Ok merci à tous les 2. j'ai trouvé aussi le package ifthen : \ifthenelse{\boolean{\censure}}{truc_poconfidentiel}{truc_conficdentiel} From - Tue Sep 16 17:24:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.1 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME, SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from mail21.bluewin.ch ([195.186.18.66]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8GFNcK5045517 for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:23:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from [192.168.1.33] (85.1.46.247) by mail21.bluewin.ch (The Blue Window 8.0.0228.0.022) id 48C904D1002746E1 for gut@ens.fr; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:11:27 +0000 Message-ID: <48CFBE22.9030004@acm.org> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:09:38 +0200 From: azubi@acm.org User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080720) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] =?ISO-8859-15?Q?D=E9finir_une_variable_logique_?= =?ISO-8859-15?Q?et_avoir_un_if/then/else?= References: <48CFA679.7080907@elzevir.fr> In-Reply-To: <48CFA679.7080907@elzevir.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Delayed for 01:14:00 by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:23:52 +0200 (CEST) Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard a écrit : > GiGGz a écrit : > >> Est il possible >> > [...] > Perso pour ce genre de bidouille, j'aime bien le package comment: Usage: all text included between % \comment ... \endcomment % or \begin{comment} ... \end{comment} % is discarded. % % The opening and closing commands should appear on a line % of their own. No starting spaces, nothing after it. % This environment should work with arbitrary amounts % of comment, and the comment can be arbitrary text. % % Other `comment' environments are defined by % and are selected/deselected with % \includecomment{versiona} % \excludecoment{versionb} % % These environments are used as % \versiona ... \endversiona % or \begin{versiona} ... \end{versiona} % with the opening and closing commands again on a line of % their own. Bonne soirée From - Fri Sep 19 14:16:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2a.orange.fr (smtp2a.orange.fr [80.12.242.139]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8JCFww8023593 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:16:04 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2a14.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 982ED700008F for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:15:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.51] (APoitiers-155-1-71-158.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.250.54.158]) by mwinf2a14.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 673BF7000086 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:15:58 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080919121558422.673BF7000086@mwinf2a14.orange.fr Message-ID: <48D397F7.80909@wanadoo.fr> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:15:51 +0200 From: pierre seigneur User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Espace avant ":" References: <48C140F3.4020903@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <48C140F3.4020903@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:16:04 +0200 (CEST) pierre seigneur a écrit : > > Comment enlever l'espace que LaTeX ajoute systématiquement avant les > deux points ? > Merci. > > Pierre Seigneur > > > Sur la FAQ LaTeX , je suis tombé par hasard sur l'astuce que je cherchais : la commande \string désactive un caractère. Par exemple, pour désigner une zone d'une feuille de calcul on utilise les deux points qui ne doivent pas être précédés d'un espace. Il suffit de saisir B2\string:C104 pour avoir "B2:C104" et pas l'énervant "B2 :C104". Je vous fait part d'une astuce qui doit être connue de beaucoup, mais qui sera peut-être utile à quelque uns. Merci à tous ceux qui ont pris le temps de me répondre. Pierre Seigneur From - Fri Sep 19 14:40:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp23.orange.fr (smtp23.orange.fr [80.12.242.97]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8JCdi9f033548 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:39:50 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2361.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E08DC700008E for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:39:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.51] (APoitiers-155-1-71-158.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.250.54.158]) by mwinf2361.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B3F557000089 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:39:42 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080919123942737.B3F557000089@mwinf2361.orange.fr Message-ID: <48D39D87.9040107@wanadoo.fr> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:39:35 +0200 From: pierre seigneur User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: GUTENBERG Subject: Impression sans images Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:39:50 +0200 (CEST) Dans le processus d'écriture-correction d'un document LaTeX, j'imprime plusieurs fois un document non définitif. Les images ne sont pas utiles. Existe-t-il un moyen d'imprimer un document PS ou PDF sans les images (autre que celui consistant à commenter toutes les lignes \includegraphics ... ) ? Merci Pierre Seigneur From - Fri Sep 19 14:43:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from rv-out-0506.google.com (rv-out-0506.google.com [209.85.198.234]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8JCh4Xs035106 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:43:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id b25so373728rvf.49 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 05:43:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=aVhlibFgv4cWrN2c+XIZNfh4a40vj0yeAaaAtgiqDAk=; b=kbbxQjbLhK0qX/yDVL3ATUkpc53RgxfUNEgQs6MhThEHEiZBz/cJfi+7VnGIMaLplj SkGAN4JrnSc5oASUUbMY9UTyzHlKohFnJLZM6cZieHJER/m7cV/w0DiEkErn5U0gmsA+ psuWT29YfwiiRFxH0rUswY/QshYAxIcwGA4VU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=n1uVjoIIxapYvwfn7XDGUz/dyYHJY3PKpNE1b2U8EEZ5oc9xu0VqWbevJwEu+MUvch KYdD28PTylOjqodTnlrllzKm8Puc4V1gXPtmS63n332V1cuJUT1d7SSA0+fIXgTpDlQC 0wSPv/t9xxzkc1MrtK0aM52U8wcnu/K700k08= Received: by 10.141.71.14 with SMTP id y14mr8361442rvk.253.1221828183583; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 05:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.51.14 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 05:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:43:03 +0200 From: "Romain Vanel" To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Impression sans images In-Reply-To: <48D39D87.9040107@wanadoo.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_32840_32625715.1221828183591" References: <48D39D87.9040107@wanadoo.fr> X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:43:10 +0200 (CEST) ------=_Part_32840_32625715.1221828183591 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Bonjour, si n'est que pour les images incluses, vous pouvez imprimer le .dvi bonne journ=E9e 2008/9/19 pierre seigneur > Dans le processus d'=E9criture-correction d'un document LaTeX, j'imprime > plusieurs fois un document non d=E9finitif. Les images ne sont pas utiles. > Existe-t-il un moyen d'imprimer un document PS ou PDF sans les images > (autre que celui consistant =E0 commenter toutes les lignes \includegraph= ics > ... ) ? > > Merci > Pierre Seigneur > > > > ------=_Part_32840_32625715.1221828183591 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Bonjour,
si n'est que pour les images incluses, vous pouvez imprimer le .dvi

bonne journ=E9e

2008/9/19 pierre seigneur <p.seigneur@wanadoo.fr>
Dans le processus= d'=E9criture-correction d'un document LaTeX, j'imprime plusieu= rs fois un document non d=E9finitif. Les images ne sont pas utiles.
Existe-t-il un moyen d'imprimer un document PS ou PDF sans les images (= autre que celui consistant =E0 commenter toutes les lignes \includegraphics= ... ) ?

Merci
Pierre Seigneur




------=_Part_32840_32625715.1221828183591-- From - Fri Sep 19 14:43:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp27.orange.fr (smtp27.orange.fr [80.12.242.95]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8JChNjB035375 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:43:28 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2709.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B647A1C000A1 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:43:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [90.15.237.223] (AMarseille-157-1-54-223.w90-15.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.15.237.223]) by mwinf2709.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 79F171C0009A for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:43:22 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080919124322499.79F171C0009A@mwinf2709.orange.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <48D39D87.9040107@wanadoo.fr> References: <48D39D87.9040107@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <13218423-7096-4263-B9A0-897E6826EA24@wanadoo.fr> From: "pir2.jv" Subject: Re: [gut] Impression sans images Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:43:18 +0200 To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:43:29 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8JChNjB035375 Le 19 sept. 08 à 14:39, pierre seigneur a écrit : > > Dans le processus d'écriture-correction d'un document LaTeX, > j'imprime plusieurs fois un document non définitif. Les images ne > sont pas utiles. > Existe-t-il un moyen d'imprimer un document PS ou PDF sans les > images (autre que celui consistant à commenter toutes les lignes > \includegraphics ... ) ? > > Merci > Pierre Seigneur > > > > Comprends-je la question? draft est la solution. \documentclass[a4paper,12pt,draft]{article} Jacques Vernin From - Fri Sep 19 14:44:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from salsa.ec-nantes.fr (salsa.ec-nantes.fr [130.66.33.3]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8JCi8wN035692 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:44:13 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by salsa.ec-nantes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A6336AA7 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:44:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from salsa.ec-nantes.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (salsa [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 25686-01 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:44:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from boromir.ec-nantes.fr (boromir.ec-nantes.fr [130.66.240.5]) by salsa.ec-nantes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 203116ACA for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:44:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dmn19.ec-nantes.fr (dmn19.ec-nantes.fr [130.66.111.19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by boromir.ec-nantes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE8394C59F for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:43:50 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48D39E85.7030903@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:43:49 +0200 From: GiGGz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Impression sans images References: <48D39D87.9040107@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <48D39D87.9040107@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-CentraleNantes-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at ec-nantes.fr X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:44:14 +0200 (CEST) pierre seigneur a écrit : > Dans le processus d'écriture-correction d'un document LaTeX, j'imprime > plusieurs fois un document non définitif. Les images ne sont pas utiles. > Existe-t-il un moyen d'imprimer un document PS ou PDF sans les images > (autre que celui consistant à commenter toutes les lignes > \includegraphics ... ) ? voir l'option \draft par exemple : \includegraphics[\draft=true]{monimage} ça répond à ta question ? From - Fri Sep 19 14:44:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp.insa-lyon.fr (criges14.insa-lyon.fr [134.214.76.242]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8JCiPvs035811 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:44:27 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.insa-lyon.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50026F3234 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:44:26 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: SMTP at INSA-LYON Received: from smtp.insa-lyon.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (criges14.insa-lyon.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VH0Qcl+ZUWVi for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:44:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [134.214.73.111] (pc302-19.insa-lyon.fr [134.214.73.111]) by smtp.insa-lyon.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0788BF3230 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:44:26 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48D39EAA.10404@insa-lyon.fr> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:44:26 +0200 From: Gilbert Travin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Impression sans images References: <48D39D87.9040107@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <48D39D87.9040107@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070600040401000707030308" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 19 Sep 2008 14:44:27 +0200 (CEST) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070600040401000707030308 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit pierre seigneur a écrit : > Dans le processus d'écriture-correction d'un document LaTeX, j'imprime > plusieurs fois un document non définitif. Les images ne sont pas utiles. > Existe-t-il un moyen d'imprimer un document PS ou PDF sans les images > (autre que celui consistant à commenter toutes les lignes > \includegraphics ... ) ? > > Merci > Pierre Seigneur > > > > Bonjour avec l'option draft de graphicx, l'image est remplacée par un rectangle .... --------------070600040401000707030308 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="gilbert_travin.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="gilbert_travin.vcf" begin:vcard fn:Gilbert TRAVIN n:TRAVIN;Gilbert org;quoted-printable:INSA-LYON;Laboratoire de m=C3=A9canique des fluides et acoustique adr;quoted-printable:20 avenue Einstein;;B=C3=A2timent Jacquard;Villeurbanne;;69621;France email;internet:gilbert.travin@insa-lyon.fr title;quoted-printable:Ma=C3=AEtre de conf=C3=A9rences tel;work:04 72 43 81 57 tel;cell:06 03 33 90 03 x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard --------------070600040401000707030308-- From - Fri Sep 19 15:13:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp28.orange.fr (smtp28.orange.fr [80.12.242.101]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8JDCosv048441 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:12:56 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2827.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9A85470000A8 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:12:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.51] (APoitiers-155-1-71-158.w81-250.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.250.54.158]) by mwinf2827.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 68F5970000A5 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:12:50 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080919131250429.68F5970000A5@mwinf2827.orange.fr Message-ID: <48D3A54B.7070600@wanadoo.fr> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:12:43 +0200 From: pierre seigneur User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Impression sans images References: <48D39D87.9040107@wanadoo.fr> <48D39EAA.10404@insa-lyon.fr> In-Reply-To: <48D39EAA.10404@insa-lyon.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:12:56 +0200 (CEST) Gilbert Travin a écrit : > pierre seigneur a écrit : >> Dans le processus d'écriture-correction d'un document LaTeX, >> j'imprime plusieurs fois un document non définitif. Les images ne >> sont pas utiles. >> Existe-t-il un moyen d'imprimer un document PS ou PDF sans les images >> (autre que celui consistant à commenter toutes les lignes >> \includegraphics ... ) ? >> >> Merci >> Pierre Seigneur >> >> >> >> > Bonjour > avec l'option draft de graphicx, l'image est remplacée par un > rectangle .... Il semble que ce soit exactement l'astuce que je cherchais. J'essaie ça tout de suite et je vous remercie de vos réponses. Pierre Seigneur From - Sat Sep 20 15:44:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8KDhuHj009822 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:43:57 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from math.jussieu.fr (mail.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.55]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id m8KDhuAs052477 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:43:56 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 166 Received: from [192.168.0.124] (elzevir.fr [88.165.216.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by math.jussieu.fr (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8KDhsNA074989 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:43:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48D4FE1A.4080402@elzevir.fr> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:43:54 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Manuel_P=E9gouri=E9-Gonnard?= User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Espace avant ":" References: <48C140F3.4020903@wanadoo.fr> <48D397F7.80909@wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <48D397F7.80909@wanadoo.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 OpenPGP: url=http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x50A89B42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/8291/Sat Sep 20 13:50:48 2008 on shiva.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94, clamav-milter version 0.94 on mail.math.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:43:57 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.166]); Sat, 20 Sep 2008 15:43:56 +0200 (CEST) X-Miltered: at jchkmail.jussieu.fr with ID 48D4FE1C.002 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 48D4FE1C.002/134.157.13.55/mail.math.jussieu.fr/math.jussieu.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 48D4FE1C.002 on jchkmail.jussieu.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.019 -> S=0.019 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham pierre seigneur a écrit : > Sur la FAQ LaTeX , je suis > tombé par hasard sur l'astuce que je cherchais : la commande \string > désactive un caractère. > Si je peux me permettre, il me semble que Sébastien Mengin l'avait mentionné : > Localement, on peut faire > > \string: Manuel. From - Sat Sep 20 22:31:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp.sfr.fr (smtp-out1.sfr.fr [160.92.187.254]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8KKVbA1019535 for ; Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:31:42 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: X-SFR-UUID: 20080920203136854.D08DDE00124B@msfrf0102.sfr.fr Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: gut@ens.fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Latex_fran=E7ais?= Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:31:33 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:31:42 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8KKVbA1019535 Est-ce que l'une ou l'un d'entre vous a entendu parler de Frenchpro qui serait une version "française" de Latex ? Si oui j'aimerais avoir des informations Ivan From - Sun Sep 21 00:10:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2b.orange.fr (smtp2b.orange.fr [80.12.242.145]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8KMAVoP040391 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 00:10:36 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2b11.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5BF8D30000E6 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 00:10:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (AVelizy-153-1-79-83.w86-217.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.217.86.83]) by mwinf2b11.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 011A130000E5 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 00:10:30 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080920221031459.011A130000E5@mwinf2b11.orange.fr Message-Id: <85C5EF74-8774-4FFE-B008-07C74DCECE10@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Fritz?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-975777580 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_Latex_fran=E7ais?= Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 00:10:29 +0200 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sun, 21 Sep 2008 00:10:36 +0200 (CEST) --Apple-Mail-1-975777580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bonsoir, Sur ce lien :http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/language/french/frenchpro/ Le 20 sept. 08 =E0 22:31, Ivan Lavall=E9e a =E9crit : > > Est-ce que l'une ou l'un d'entre vous a entendu parler de Frenchpro=20=20 > qui serait une version "fran=E7aise" de Latex ? Si oui j'aimerais=20=20 > avoir des informations > Ivan Ren=E9 Fritz --Apple-Mail-1-975777580 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bonsoir,


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Le 20 sept. 08 =E0 22:31, Ivan Lavall=E9e a =E9cri= t :

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Est-ce que l'une ou l'un d'entre vous a entendu parler de Frenchpr= o qui serait une version "fran=E7aise" de Latex ? Si oui j'aimerais avoir d= es informations
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--Apple-Mail-1-975777580-- From - Mon Sep 22 11:36:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2e.orange.fr (smtp2e.orange.fr [80.12.242.113]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8M9ZleT063408 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:35:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2e24.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3662D70000E8 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:35:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.47] (AMontsouris-151-1-47-6.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.123.156.6]) by mwinf2e24.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 183247000084 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:35:47 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080922093547991.183247000084@mwinf2e24.orange.fr Message-Id: <2CAD8E51-21F2-4002-86AB-2C64AC833A28@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: gut@ens.fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Beamer Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:35:45 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:35:52 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8M9ZleT063408 J'ai vu des exposés avec diapos préparé en Latex, ça a "de la gueule" comme on dit. Y-a-t-il quelque part un exposé court (comme "Latex pour l'impatient" par exemple) pour apprendre rapidement à les faire ? Ivan From - Mon Sep 22 12:17:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.5 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_FUTURE_06_12 autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (smtp20.orange.fr [193.252.22.29]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8MAHZp5079719 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:17:41 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2013.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C4BD41C000A1 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:17:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (ALille-251-1-25-9.w82-127.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.127.131.9]) by mwinf2013.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9455E1C00082 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:17:35 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080922101735607.9455E1C00082@mwinf2013.orange.fr From: "Yvon Henel (TdS)" To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Beamer Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:08:39 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 (enterprise 20070904.708012) References: <2CAD8E51-21F2-4002-86AB-2C64AC833A28@orange.fr> In-Reply-To: <2CAD8E51-21F2-4002-86AB-2C64AC833A28@orange.fr> X-Face: $1WU:${_MU*`jL~4Bj(E@3R_=Z9?SPQC:3=T/u-CPbGVM1vzFB'DS!_D)=?utf-8?q?=266zsCxf=7DA=7BdL-=0A=09=7C*UbYq8J?="i#"Gv$`hZyMlk0+F$3N@0{44*/s.crcwRD2!U{VQ~? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3325038.3mb8KytI00"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200809222308.43599.yvon.henel@orange.fr> X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:17:41 +0200 (CEST) --nextPart3325038.3mb8KytI00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Le lundi 22 septembre 2008, Ivan Lavall=E9e a =E9crit=A0: > J'ai vu des expos=E9s avec diapos pr=E9par=E9 en Latex, =E7a a "de la gue= ule" > comme on dit. Y-a-t-il quelque part un expos=E9 court (comme "Latex pour > l'impatient" par exemple) pour apprendre rapidement =E0 les faire ? > Ivan On demande le petit Denis pr=E8s de la caisse principale ;-) --=20 Yvon Henel, TeXnicien de surface --nextPart3325038.3mb8KytI00 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBI2Alb7XZYcGKSgf4RAjOXAJ0XlYz/ao7ug0QbD+JbgLSpktdbJwCfb2my MGfvI7CFs37etIKD95u4UKE= =fVCf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3325038.3mb8KytI00-- From - Mon Sep 22 12:24:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (smtp20.orange.fr [80.12.242.26]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8MAOV26082496 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:24:36 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2004.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6EDE41C0009D for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:24:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.47] (AMontsouris-151-1-47-6.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.123.156.6]) by mwinf2004.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 500E21C00095 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:24:31 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080922102431327.500E21C00095@mwinf2004.orange.fr Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: <200809222308.43599.yvon.henel@orange.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: [gut] Beamer Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:24:29 +0200 References: <2CAD8E51-21F2-4002-86AB-2C64AC833A28@orange.fr> <200809222308.43599.yvon.henel@orange.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:24:36 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8MAOV26082496 That is to say ? Le 22 sept. 08 à 23:08, Yvon Henel (TdS) a écrit : > Le lundi 22 septembre 2008, Ivan Lavallée a écrit : >> J'ai vu des exposés avec diapos préparé en Latex, ça a "de la gueule" >> comme on dit. Y-a-t-il quelque part un exposé court (comme "Latex >> pour >> l'impatient" par exemple) pour apprendre rapidement à les faire ? >> Ivan > > On demande le petit Denis près de la caisse principale ;-) > > -- > Yvon Henel, TeXnicien de surface From - Mon Sep 22 12:28:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8MARjCi083488 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:27:46 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from math.jussieu.fr (mail.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.55]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id m8MARiPq049832 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:27:45 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 168 Received: from [192.168.0.124] (elzevir.fr [88.165.216.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by math.jussieu.fr (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8MARgWI042836 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:27:43 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48D7731E.4020709@elzevir.fr> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:27:42 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Manuel_P=E9gouri=E9-Gonnard?= User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Beamer References: <2CAD8E51-21F2-4002-86AB-2C64AC833A28@orange.fr> <200809222308.43599.yvon.henel@orange.fr> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 OpenPGP: url=http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x50A89B42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/8307/Mon Sep 22 07:05:57 2008 on shiva.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94, clamav-milter version 0.94 on mail.math.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:27:46 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.168]); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:27:45 +0200 (CEST) X-Miltered: at jchkmail.jussieu.fr with ID 48D77320.00D by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! 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From - Mon Sep 22 13:53:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (smtp20.orange.fr [80.12.242.27]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8MBrF2p014905 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:53:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2009.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C25D51C00093 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:53:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from drums.chezmoi.fr (ALille-156-1-109-107.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.58.236.107]) by mwinf2009.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 98E371C000A3 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:53:15 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080922115315626.98E371C000A3@mwinf2009.orange.fr Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:55:31 +0200 From: Denis =?UTF-8?B?Qml0b3V6w6k=?= To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Beamer Message-ID: <20080922135531.324e98aa@drums.chezmoi.fr> In-Reply-To: <48D7731E.4020709@elzevir.fr> References: <2CAD8E51-21F2-4002-86AB-2C64AC833A28@orange.fr> <200809222308.43599.yvon.henel@orange.fr> <48D7731E.4020709@elzevir.fr> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i586-mandriva-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:53:21 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8MBrF2p014905 Le lundi 22/09/08 à 12h27, Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard a écrit : > Si je devais deviner, je dirais bien : > > http://gte.univ-littoral.fr/members/dbitouze/pub/latex/diapositives-cours-d/video-projection > > Yvon, c'est à ça que tu pensais ? C'est bon : je vous embauche ! ;) Ce qui est curieux, c'est que je croyais avoir répondu au mail d'Ivan depuis la fac... -- Denis From - Mon Sep 22 14:51:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8MCpaLf040510 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:51:37 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from math.jussieu.fr (mail.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.55]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id m8MCpZow014745 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:51:36 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 166 Received: from [192.168.0.124] (elzevir.fr [88.165.216.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by math.jussieu.fr (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8MCpYhd066085 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:51:34 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48D794D5.9090407@elzevir.fr> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:51:33 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWFudWVsIFDDqWdvdXJpw6ktR29ubmFyZA==?= User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Beamer References: <2CAD8E51-21F2-4002-86AB-2C64AC833A28@orange.fr> <200809222308.43599.yvon.henel@orange.fr> <48D7731E.4020709@elzevir.fr> <20080922135531.324e98aa@drums.chezmoi.fr> In-Reply-To: <20080922135531.324e98aa@drums.chezmoi.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 OpenPGP: url=http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x50A89B42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/8307/Mon Sep 22 07:05:57 2008 on shiva.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94, clamav-milter version 0.94 on mail.math.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:51:37 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.166]); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 14:51:36 +0200 (CEST) X-Miltered: at jchkmail.jussieu.fr with ID 48D794D8.000 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! 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From - Mon Sep 22 15:01:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (smtp20.orange.fr [80.12.242.27]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8MD1b80044794 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:01:42 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2009.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 347101C000C2 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:01:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from drums.chezmoi.fr (ALille-156-1-109-107.w90-58.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.58.236.107]) by mwinf2009.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F3A601C00084 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:01:33 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080922130133998.F3A601C00084@mwinf2009.orange.fr Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:03:39 +0200 From: Denis =?UTF-8?B?Qml0b3V6w6k=?= To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Beamer Message-ID: <20080922150339.6df7d3d2@drums.chezmoi.fr> In-Reply-To: <48D794D5.9090407@elzevir.fr> References: <2CAD8E51-21F2-4002-86AB-2C64AC833A28@orange.fr> <200809222308.43599.yvon.henel@orange.fr> <48D7731E.4020709@elzevir.fr> <20080922135531.324e98aa@drums.chezmoi.fr> <48D794D5.9090407@elzevir.fr> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i586-mandriva-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:01:42 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8MD1b80044794 Le lundi 22/09/08 à 14h51, Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard a écrit : > Tu ne confonds pas avec le fil récent de fctt d'où j'ai copié-collé le > lien ci-dessus, au moins ? Nan, nan... -- Denis From - Mon Sep 22 15:17:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8MDHN7T051120 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:17:28 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KhlI1-0003Xf-UV for gut@ens.fr; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:17:21 +0000 Received: from dmn19.ec-nantes.fr ([130.66.111.19]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:17:21 +0000 Received: from giggzounet by dmn19.ec-nantes.fr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:17:21 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gut@ens.fr From: GiGGz Subject: Question sur un tableau dans un itemize Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:17:13 +0200 Lines: 35 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: dmn19.ec-nantes.fr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) Sender: news X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:17:29 +0200 (CEST) Bonjour, dans un beamer, j'ai ça : \begin{itemize} \item Computational domain: {\footnotesize{[4 L; 5.5 L] $\times$ [-1.5 L; 1.5 L] $\times$ [-G; 1.5 L]}} \\ \item $\Delta$ y = 0.006 mm for the model (y$^+$ = 0.5) (low-Reynolds)\\ \item $\Delta$ y = 0.6 mm for the ground (wall function) \item \begin{tabular}{lcc} Number of points & EASM & DES \\ \hline of the mesh & 20 $\times$ $106$ & 6.6 $\times$ $106$\\ on the model & \red{460\,000} & \red{103\,000} \\ on the ground & \blue{100\,000} & \blue{50\,000} \\ \end{tabular} \end{itemize} Le problème vient du tableau dans le \item . En effet, Latex étant trop intelligent, il centre le symbole de l'item au milieu du tableau. Y a t il moyen que le symbole ne soit pas centré. Que j'obtienne : * | ligne 1 du tableau | ligne 2 du tableau | à la place de : | ligne 1 du tableau * | ligne 2 du tableau | Merci d'avance Guillaume From - Mon Sep 22 15:32:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from amazone1.ujf-grenoble.fr (amazone1.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.254]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8MDW8eP057300 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:32:11 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr (tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.18.74]) by amazone1.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7/Configured by JE 21 07 2006) with ESMTP id m8MDW808090888 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:32:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C59456436 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:32:08 +0200 (CEST) X-UJF-AV: Scanned on tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr Received: from tibre1.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre1.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.18.86]) by tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3979856422 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:32:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.15]) by tibre1.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/GB-Aout08) with ESMTP id m8MDW8Mq028346 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:32:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from thierry.bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C83D2E01 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:32:07 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr Received: from fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qTxJlXHIfFzx for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:32:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from euclide.ujf-grenoble.fr (euclide.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.48.255.207]) by fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D69DD2DA7 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:32:07 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:32:10 +0200 From: Thierry Bouche Organization: Institut Fourier X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <895468389.20080922153210@ujf-grenoble.fr> To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Question sur un tableau dans un itemize In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:32:11 +0200 (CEST) rien à voir avec beamer G> Le problème vient du tableau dans le \item . En effet, Latex étant trop G> intelligent, il centre le symbole de l'item au milieu du tableau. Y a t en général, latex n'est pas très intelligent. Le problème doit venir d'ailleurs. Peut-être de l'utilisateur qui n'a pas lu le fameux manuel et l'option [t] de l'environnement tabular ? Th. From - Mon Sep 22 15:36:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from salsa.ec-nantes.fr (salsa.ec-nantes.fr [130.66.33.3]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8MDaL05059063 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:36:29 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by salsa.ec-nantes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D180684F for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:36:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from salsa.ec-nantes.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (salsa [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09653-09 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:36:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from boromir.ec-nantes.fr (boromir.ec-nantes.fr [130.66.240.5]) by salsa.ec-nantes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 638D0697F for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:36:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from dmn19.ec-nantes.fr (dmn19.ec-nantes.fr [130.66.111.19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by boromir.ec-nantes.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E266E4C1FD for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:36:06 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48D79F46.6000807@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:36:06 +0200 From: GiGGz User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Question sur un tableau dans un itemize References: <895468389.20080922153210@ujf-grenoble.fr> In-Reply-To: <895468389.20080922153210@ujf-grenoble.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-CentraleNantes-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at ec-nantes.fr X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:36:30 +0200 (CEST) Thierry Bouche a écrit : > rien à voir avec beamer > > G> Le problème vient du tableau dans le \item . En effet, Latex étant trop > G> intelligent, il centre le symbole de l'item au milieu du tableau. Y a t > > en général, latex n'est pas très intelligent. Le problème doit venir > d'ailleurs. Peut-être de l'utilisateur qui n'a pas lu le fameux manuel > et l'option [t] de l'environnement tabular ? > > Th. > Damned! ça marche. You're trop fort! Merci bien et bon aprem From - Mon Sep 22 18:31:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from relay1-v.mail.gandi.net (relay1-v.mail.gandi.net [217.70.178.75]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8MGV7g5031282 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:31:12 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (mfilter1-c.gandi.net [217.70.182.21]) by relay1-v.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0156362C4 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:31:06 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter1-c.mgt.gandi.net Received: from relay1-v.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.178.75]) by localhost (mfilter1-c.mgt.gandi.net [217.70.182.21]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cMJmgquXlsUo for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:31:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (25.162.197-77.rev.gaoland.net [77.197.162.25]) by relay1-v.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70C35362B9 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:31:00 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:30:59 +0200 From: Emilien Gaspar To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Beamer Message-ID: <20080922163059.GA2987@dud-t.org> References: <2CAD8E51-21F2-4002-86AB-2C64AC833A28@orange.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <2CAD8E51-21F2-4002-86AB-2C64AC833A28@orange.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:31:13 +0200 (CEST) Bonjour, On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 11:35:45AM +0200, Ivan Lavallée wrote : > J'ai vu des exposés avec diapos préparé en Latex, ça a "de la gueule" > comme on dit. Y-a-t-il quelque part un exposé court (comme "Latex pour > l'impatient" par exemple) pour apprendre rapidement à les faire ? > Ivan > Il suffit de jeter un oeil sur les sources d'exemples disponibles sur le site officiel [1]. C'est assez simple à comprendre quand on connait déjà LaTeX (itemize & cie) et l'on produit très rapidement de très bonne (comprendre jolie & efficace) présentation. [1]: http://latex-beamer.sourceforge.net/ -- Emilien Gaspar - 0x9FD00807 Make crypto not munitions - OpenBSD From - Mon Sep 22 18:48:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2e.orange.fr (smtp2e.orange.fr [80.12.242.111]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8MGm64V037466 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:48:11 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2e28.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 40FB270000A6 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:48:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.47] (AMontsouris-151-1-47-6.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.123.156.6]) by mwinf2e28.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0661770000A2 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:48:05 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080922164806262.0661770000A2@mwinf2e28.orange.fr Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: <20080922163059.GA2987@dud-t.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: [gut] Beamer Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:48:05 +0200 References: <2CAD8E51-21F2-4002-86AB-2C64AC833A28@orange.fr> <20080922163059.GA2987@dud-t.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:48:11 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8MGm64V037466 Ouais c'est exact, j'ai récupéré le code d'une présentation et j'en écris une autre, ça marche, bien qu'il y ait quelques astuces, mais heureusement Denis Bitouzé est au clavier et répond aux questions... Ivan Le 22 sept. 08 à 18:30, Emilien Gaspar a écrit : > > Bonjour, > > On Mon, Sep 22, 2008 at 11:35:45AM +0200, Ivan Lavallée wrote : >> J'ai vu des exposés avec diapos préparé en Latex, ça a "de la gueule" >> comme on dit. Y-a-t-il quelque part un exposé court (comme "Latex >> pour >> l'impatient" par exemple) pour apprendre rapidement à les faire ? >> Ivan >> > > Il suffit de jeter un oeil sur les sources d'exemples disponibles > sur le > site officiel [1]. C'est assez simple à comprendre quand on connait > déjà > LaTeX (itemize & cie) et l'on produit très rapidement de très bonne > (comprendre jolie & efficace) présentation. > > [1]: http://latex-beamer.sourceforge.net/ > > -- > Emilien Gaspar - 0x9FD00807 > Make crypto not munitions - OpenBSD > From - Tue Sep 23 11:05:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp23.orange.fr (smtp23.orange.fr [80.12.242.97]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8N954tj036042 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:05:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2358.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BFDE87000096 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:05:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.5] (APuteaux-153-1-62-82.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.124.140.82]) by mwinf2358.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 98FF97000086 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:05:04 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080923090504626.98FF97000086@mwinf2358.orange.fr Message-Id: <53403D17-97CA-4725-8163-03A2536B348E@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: gut@ens.fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Attention_incoh=E9rence_Beamer?= Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:05:03 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:05:10 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8N954tj036042 Attention, j'ai l'impression que le compilateur beamer n'est pas stabilisé, il considère l'écriture suivante comme correcte alors que le parenthésage est faux, et il n'accepte pas le bon: \begin{tabular}{c|c|c|c} \hline \multicolumn{4}{}[Obtention des caractères réservés \\ \hline \verb|{| \verb|\{|& \verb|&| \verb|\&| &\verb|_| \verb|\_| & \verb|%| \verb|\%| \\ \verb|}| \verb|\}|& \verb|$| \verb|\$| & \verb|#| \verb|\#|& \verb|^| \verb|\^| \\ \hline \multicolumn{4}{}[\verb|\| \verb|\textbackslash{}|\\ \hline \end{tabular} Ivan From - Tue Sep 23 11:55:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from amazone1.ujf-grenoble.fr (amazone1.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.254]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8N9tj23095313 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:55:46 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr (tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.24.22]) by amazone1.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7/Configured by JE 21 07 2006) with ESMTP id m8N9ti12051843 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:55:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDEA85643D for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:55:44 +0200 (CEST) X-UJF-AV: Scanned on tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr Received: from tibre2.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre2.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.24.10]) by tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB9FB5643A for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:55:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.15]) by tibre2.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/GB-Aout08) with ESMTP id m8N9tiTU022226 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:55:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from thierry.bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B964FD2CD5 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:55:44 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr Received: from fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 84id49mEZJEs for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:55:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from euclide.ujf-grenoble.fr (euclide.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.48.255.207]) by fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A82D2CBC for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:55:44 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:55:40 +0200 From: Thierry Bouche Organization: Institut Fourier X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <421521923.20080923115540@ujf-grenoble.fr> To: gut@ens.fr Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_Attention_incoh=E9rence_Beamer?= In-Reply-To: <53403D17-97CA-4725-8163-03A2536B348E@orange.fr> References: <53403D17-97CA-4725-8163-03A2536B348E@orange.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:55:46 +0200 (CEST) hum, hum... 1. beamer n'est pas un compilateur, c'est une classe 2. faut mettre du \verb et choses comme ça dans un frame 'fragile' 3. la syntaxe \multicolumn{4}{}[...] est fausse ! Thierry From - Tue Sep 23 14:11:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2b.orange.fr (smtp2b.orange.fr [80.12.242.146]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8NCAlMj036027 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:10:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2b16.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id AB890700009E for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:10:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.47] (AMontsouris-151-1-47-6.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.123.156.6]) by mwinf2b16.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8E49E700009A for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:10:45 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080923121045582.8E49E700009A@mwinf2b16.orange.fr Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: <421521923.20080923115540@ujf-grenoble.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_Attention_incoh=E9rence_Beamer?= X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:10:44 +0200 References: <53403D17-97CA-4725-8163-03A2536B348E@orange.fr> <421521923.20080923115540@ujf-grenoble.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:10:52 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8NCAlMj036027 Ben oui, elle est fausse, mais le compilateur l'accepte et n'accepte pas la bonne, c'est bien ce que je signale. J'ai bien mis fragile à ma frame. Ivan Le 23 sept. 08 à 11:55, Thierry Bouche a écrit : > > hum, hum... > > 1. beamer n'est pas un compilateur, c'est une classe > > 2. faut mettre du \verb et choses comme ça dans un frame 'fragile' > > 3. la syntaxe \multicolumn{4}{}[...] est fausse ! > > > Thierry > > From - Tue Sep 23 15:08:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8ND8Zgh057324 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:08:36 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from math.jussieu.fr (mail.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.55]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id m8ND8YaX076721 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:08:35 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 165 Received: from [192.168.0.124] (elzevir.fr [88.165.216.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by math.jussieu.fr (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8ND8XZE054547 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:08:33 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48D8EA4B.3020609@elzevir.fr> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:08:27 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Manuel_P=E9gouri=E9-Gonnard?= User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Attention =?ISO-8859-1?Q?incoh=E9rence_Beamer?= References: <53403D17-97CA-4725-8163-03A2536B348E@orange.fr> <421521923.20080923115540@ujf-grenoble.fr> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 OpenPGP: url=http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x50A89B42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/8316/Tue Sep 23 11:40:56 2008 on shiva.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94, clamav-milter version 0.94 on mail.math.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:08:36 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.165]); Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:08:35 +0200 (CEST) X-Miltered: at jchkmail2.jussieu.fr with ID 48D8CE55.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 48D8CE55.001/134.157.13.55/mail.math.jussieu.fr/math.jussieu.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 48D8CE55.001 on jchkmail2.jussieu.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.002 -> S=0.002 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham Ivan Lavallée a écrit : > Ben oui, elle est fausse, mais le compilateur l'accepte et n'accepte pas > la bonne, c'est bien ce que je signale. J'ai bien mis fragile à ma frame. Hum, reprenons les choses posément. Les deux versions : \multicolum{4]{}{texte} % (*) % et \multicolum{4]{}[texte compilent mais l'une ne donne visiblement pas le résultat que tu veux. (Parce que « le compilateur n'accepte pas » ça évoque une erreur à la compilation, que je n'arrive pas à reprosuire.) Premier point. (*) est-ce ça que tu appelles « la bonne » version : tu n'as pas précisé. Deuxième point : on copie-colle ça dans un document de classe article et on se rend compte que ça n'a rien à voir avec beamer. On y voir déjà un peu plus clair. Ensuite on ouvre son bouquin ou document de référence préféré sur le sujet (par exemple latex2e.pdf) et on lit que le deuxième argument obligatoire de de \multicolumn est « motif ». Or le motif vide indique... pas de colonne, donc c'est normal q'on voie rien après. Bien, on arrive à \multicolumn{4}{c}{texte} pour la première ligne et ça « marche » dans tous les sens raisonnables du terme. Là où ça se corse en effet, c'est pour la dernière ligne : on ne peut pas utiliser \verb dans l'argument d'une autre macro : c'est comme ça et on y peut rien. Pour ce cas je propose donc de tricher en faisant son pseudo-verbatim à la main : \multicolumn{4}{c}{\ttfamily \textbackslash{} \string\textbackslash\string{\string}} \\ (ça ne marche qu'avec [T1]{fontenc}). Ceci dit, comme tu auras sans doute souvent ce genre de soucis vu le thème du document, je pense qu'il serait plus propre et plus confortable de définir des macros comme celles fournies par ltxdoc : \cs, \marg, \oarg, etc. Plus bas ce que j'utilise, à titre d'exemple. Une approche alternative est d'utiliser fancyvrb avec ses macro \SaveVerb et \UseVerb (ou un nom comme ça). Manuel. % pour taper du code à la main (inspiré de ltxdoc, mais différent) [[1 % \DeclareRobustCommand\cs[1]{% % control sequence \textco{\textbackslash#1}} \newcommand\marg[1]{% % mandatory argument {\cofont\textbraceleft#1\textbraceright}} \newcommand\oarg[1]{% % optional argument {\cofont[#1]}} \newcommand\optstar{% % optional star \meta{\ensuremath{*}}\xspace} \newcommand\meta[1]{% % variantes à remplacer \ensuremath{\langle}\textme{#1}\ensuremath{\rangle}} \newcommand\csm[1]{% % control sequence + meta \cs{\meta{#1}}} \newcommand\margm[1]{% % mandatory argument + meta \marg{\meta{#1}}} \newcommand\oargm[1]{% % optional argument + meta \oarg{\meta{#1}}} % (\textco et \cofont sont des commandes de fontes, par exemple % \texttt et \ttfamily, ou autre selon tes goûts, à accorder % à ce qui est utilisé par \verb, \Verb, ou autre... From - Tue Sep 23 16:29:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp23.orange.fr (smtp23.orange.fr [80.12.242.50]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8NET91h090453 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:29:14 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2302.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 375D71C0008E for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:29:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.47] (AMontsouris-151-1-47-6.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.123.156.6]) by mwinf2302.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E5AA51C0008C for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:29:08 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080923142908940.E5AA51C0008C@mwinf2302.orange.fr Message-Id: <9965CDC3-B9DD-4D9B-A6B5-183AB718BA68@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: <48D8EA4B.3020609@elzevir.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_Attention_incoh=E9rence_Beamer?= Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:29:08 +0200 References: <53403D17-97CA-4725-8163-03A2536B348E@orange.fr> <421521923.20080923115540@ujf-grenoble.fr> <48D8EA4B.3020609@elzevir.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:29:14 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8NET91h090453 Certes, mais le fait est que ça marche comme je l'ai donné, ce qui n'est pas normal, je devrais avoir un message d'horreur ! Ivan Le 23 sept. 08 à 15:08, Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard a écrit : > > Ivan Lavallée a écrit : >> Ben oui, elle est fausse, mais le compilateur l'accepte et >> n'accepte pas >> la bonne, c'est bien ce que je signale. J'ai bien mis fragile à ma >> frame. > > Hum, reprenons les choses posément. Les deux versions : > > \multicolum{4]{}{texte} % (*) > % et > \multicolum{4]{}[texte > > compilent mais l'une ne donne visiblement pas le résultat que tu veux. > (Parce que « le compilateur n'accepte pas » ça évoque une erreur à la > compilation, que je n'arrive pas à reprosuire.) Premier point. > > (*) est-ce ça que tu appelles « la bonne » version : tu n'as pas > précisé. > > Deuxième point : on copie-colle ça dans un document de classe > article et > on se rend compte que ça n'a rien à voir avec beamer. On y voir déjà > un > peu plus clair. > > Ensuite on ouvre son bouquin ou document de référence préféré sur le > sujet (par exemple latex2e.pdf) et on lit que le deuxième argument > obligatoire de de \multicolumn est « motif ». Or le motif vide > indique... pas de colonne, donc c'est normal q'on voie rien après. > Bien, > on arrive à \multicolumn{4}{c}{texte} pour la première ligne et ça > « marche » dans tous les sens raisonnables du terme. > > Là où ça se corse en effet, c'est pour la dernière ligne : on ne peut > pas utiliser \verb dans l'argument d'une autre macro : c'est comme ça > et on y peut rien. Pour ce cas je propose donc de tricher en faisant > son > pseudo-verbatim à la main : > > \multicolumn{4}{c}{\ttfamily \textbackslash{} > \string\textbackslash\string{\string}} \\ > > (ça ne marche qu'avec [T1]{fontenc}). Ceci dit, comme tu auras sans > doute souvent ce genre de soucis vu le thème du document, je pense > qu'il > serait plus propre et plus confortable de définir des macros comme > celles fournies par ltxdoc : \cs, \marg, \oarg, etc. Plus bas ce que > j'utilise, à titre d'exemple. > > Une approche alternative est d'utiliser fancyvrb avec ses macro > \SaveVerb et \UseVerb (ou un nom comme ça). > > Manuel. > > % pour taper du code à la main (inspiré de ltxdoc, mais différent) [[1 > % > \DeclareRobustCommand\cs[1]{% % control sequence > \textco{\textbackslash#1}} > \newcommand\marg[1]{% % mandatory argument > {\cofont\textbraceleft#1\textbraceright}} > \newcommand\oarg[1]{% % optional argument > {\cofont[#1]}} > \newcommand\optstar{% % optional star > \meta{\ensuremath{*}}\xspace} > \newcommand\meta[1]{% % variantes à remplacer > \ensuremath{\langle}\textme{#1}\ensuremath{\rangle}} > \newcommand\csm[1]{% % control sequence + meta > \cs{\meta{#1}}} > \newcommand\margm[1]{% % mandatory argument + meta > \marg{\meta{#1}}} > \newcommand\oargm[1]{% % optional argument + meta > \oarg{\meta{#1}}} > > % (\textco et \cofont sont des commandes de fontes, par exemple > % \texttt et \ttfamily, ou autre selon tes goûts, à accorder > % à ce qui est utilisé par \verb, \Verb, ou autre... > From - Tue Sep 23 21:56:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2e.orange.fr (smtp2e.orange.fr [80.12.242.111]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8NJtuEs027384 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:56:01 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2e01.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E6FBE7000084 for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:55:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from omr.lan (ALyon-156-1-13-57.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.209.140.57]) by mwinf2e01.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B4B74700008D for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:55:55 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080923195555740.B4B74700008D@mwinf2e01.orange.fr Message-ID: <48D949CB.9030608@wanadoo.fr> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:55:55 +0200 From: michel ROME User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; fr; rv:1.8.1.14) Gecko/20080421 Thunderbird/2.0.0.14 Mnenhy/0.7.5.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: xindy et TeXShop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:56:01 +0200 (CEST) Bonsoir, Quelqu'un saurait-il faire que TeXShop réponde à la commande Command-Majuscule-I avec xindy à la place de makeindex ? Et comment mettre des options à makeindex ou xindy. (en dehors de la ligne de commande). Cordialement. MR. From - Wed Sep 24 11:11:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp21.orange.fr (smtp21.orange.fr [80.12.242.46]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8O9BGDB064730 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:11:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2128.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0EAB21C00053 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:11:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.5] (APuteaux-153-1-12-235.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.124.181.235]) by mwinf2128.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7F8E31C000A2 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:11:15 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080924091115522.7F8E31C000A2@mwinf2128.orange.fr Message-Id: <951A6350-82C5-4BE2-B2E3-1F7044D02BEC@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: gut@ens.fr Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-15--872860918 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Fwd: Toujours verbatim dans la classe beamer Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:11:14 +0200 References: <3A73369A-F192-4DF5-B5B4-4D87C5048BEA@orange.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:11:21 +0200 (CEST) --Apple-Mail-15--872860918 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Attention, j'envoie deux messages qui se suivent (question de taille=20=20 de message, le pr=E9c=E9dent ayant =E9t=E9 rejet=E9 pour taille trop=20=20 importante), donc dans celui-ci le code que je tape dans la classe=20=20 beamer et dans le suivant e que j'obtiens. Ivan D=E9but du message r=E9exp=E9di=E9 : > De : Ivan Lavall=E9e > Date : 24 septembre 2008 11:03:46 HAEC > =C0 : gut@ens.fr > Objet : Toujours verbatim dans la classe beamer > > Le pb est le suivant, je tape le code suivant, avec les=20=20 > indentations et j'obtiens ce qui suit, SANS les indentations, or en=20= =20 > principe, sous verbatim on doit obtenir exactement ce qu'on tape,=20=20 > quelle erreur ai-je bien pu commettre comme aurait dit Bebel ? > Ivan > > %xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > % = Nouvelle=20 > diapo > %xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx= xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > \begin{frame}[fragile] > %\begin{block}{Exemple} > \begin{verbatim} > \documentclass{article} > \usepackage[francais]{babel} > \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} > \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc} > \title{G\'eom\'etrie non euclidienne} > \author{Nicola\"i Lobatchevski \and Janos Boliay > \thanks{Merci Gauss}} > \date{1826} > \begin{document} > \maketitle > \begin{abstract} > O\`u l'on montre que le 5eme postulat > d'Euclide est pris en d\'efaut. \end{abstract} > \end{document}=09=09 > \end{verbatim} > %\end{block} > \end{frame} > --Apple-Mail-15--872860918 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Attention, j'envoie deux messages qui s= e suivent (question de taille de message, le pr=E9c=E9dent ayant =E9t=E9 re= jet=E9 pour taille trop importante), donc dans celui-ci le code que je tape= dans la classe beamer et dans le suivant e que j'obtiens.
Ivan

D=E9but du message r=E9exp=E9di=E9 :

De : Ivan Lavall=E9e <ilavallee@orange.fr>
Date : 24 septembre 2008 11:03:46 HAEC
Objet : Toujours verbatim dans la classe beamer<= /font>

Le pb es= t le suivant, je tape le code suivant, avec les indentations  et j'obt= iens ce qui suit, SANS les indentations, or en principe, sous verbatim on d= oit obtenir exactement ce qu'on tape, quelle erreur ai-je bien pu commettre= comme aurait dit Bebel ?
Ivan

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\begin{frame}[fragile]
%\begin{block}{Exemple} \begin{verbatim} \documentclass{article}
<= span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"> \usepackage[francais]{babel} \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
<= span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space:pre"> \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc} \title{G\'eom\'etrie non euc= lidienne}
\author{Nicola\"i= Lobatchevski \and Janos Boliay
           &nb= sp;            =    \thanks{Merci Gauss}}
\date{1826}
= \b= egin{document}
= \maketitle \begin{abstract}
O\`u l'on montre que le 5eme postulat
= d'Euclide est pris en d\'efaut. \end{abstract}
\end{document}
\end{verbatim}
%\end{block}
\end{frame}

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--Apple-Mail-15--872860918-- From - Wed Sep 24 11:17:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp21.orange.fr (smtp21.orange.fr [80.12.242.46]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8O9H0Cr067403 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:17:06 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2128.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D6F001C000B2 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:17:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.5] (APuteaux-153-1-12-235.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.124.181.235]) by mwinf2128.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 38B6E1C000B5 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:17:00 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080924091700232.38B6E1C000B5@mwinf2128.orange.fr Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: gut@ens.fr Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-19--872516114 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Fwd: [gut] Fwd: Toujours verbatim dans la classe beamer 3 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:16:59 +0200 References: <951A6350-82C5-4BE2-B2E3-1F7044D02BEC@orange.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:17:06 +0200 (CEST) --Apple-Mail-19--872516114 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Snif Sympa n'est pas sympa, il ne veut pas de mon deuxi=E8me mel, bon,=20= =20 le pb est que je ne retrouve pas l'indentation sur la diapo... Avec mes excuses pour tous ces messages Ivan D=E9but du message r=E9exp=E9di=E9 : > De : Ivan Lavall=E9e > Date : 24 septembre 2008 11:11:14 HAEC > =C0 : gut@ens.fr > Objet : [gut] Fwd: Toujours verbatim dans la classe beamer > R=E9pondre =E0 : gut@ens.fr > > Attention, j'envoie deux messages qui se suivent (question de taille=20= =20 > de message, le pr=E9c=E9dent ayant =E9t=E9 rejet=E9 pour taille trop=20= =20 > importante), donc dans celui-ci le code que je tape dans la classe=20=20 > beamer et dans le suivant e que j'obtiens. > Ivan > > D=E9but du message r=E9exp=E9di=E9 : > >> De : Ivan Lavall=E9e >> Date : 24 septembre 2008 11:03:46 HAEC >> =C0 : gut@ens.fr >> Objet : Toujours verbatim dans la classe beamer >> >> Le pb est le suivant, je tape le code suivant, avec les=20=20 >> indentations et j'obtiens ce qui suit, SANS les indentations, or=20=20 >> en principe, sous verbatim on doit obtenir exactement ce qu'on=20=20 >> tape, quelle erreur ai-je bien pu commettre comme aurait dit Bebel ? >> Ivan >> >> %xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 >> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> % = Nouvelle=20 >> diapo >> %xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx= xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> \begin{frame}[fragile] >> %\begin{block}{Exemple} >> \begin{verbatim} >> \documentclass{article} >> \usepackage[francais]{babel} >> \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} >> \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc} >> \title{G\'eom\'etrie non euclidienne} >> \author{Nicola\"i Lobatchevski \and Janos Boliay >> \thanks{Merci Gauss}} >> \date{1826} >> \begin{document} >> \maketitle >> \begin{abstract} >> O\`u l'on montre que le 5eme postulat >> d'Euclide est pris en d\'efaut. \end{abstract} >> \end{document}=09=09 >> \end{verbatim} >> %\end{block} >> \end{frame} >> > --Apple-Mail-19--872516114 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Snif Sympa n'est pas sympa, il ne veut = pas de mon deuxi=E8me mel, bon, le pb est que je ne retrouve pas l'indentat= ion sur la diapo...
Avec mes excuses pour tous ces messages
I= van

D=E9but du message r=E9exp=E9di=E9 :

<= font face=3D"Helvetica" size=3D"3" color=3D"#000000" style=3D"font: 12.0px = Helvetica; color: #000000">De : Ivan Lavall=E9e <ilavallee@orange.fr>
Date : 24 septembre 2008 11:11:14 HAEC=
Objet : [gut] Fwd: Toujours verbatim dans la= classe beamer
<= b>R=E9pondre =E0 : gut@ens.fr=

Attention, j'envoie deux messages qui se suivent (question de tai= lle de message, le pr=E9c=E9dent ayant =E9t=E9 rejet=E9 pour taille trop im= portante), donc dans celui-ci le code que je tape dans la classe beamer et = dans le suivant e que j'obtiens.
Ivan

D=E9but du messa= ge r=E9exp=E9di=E9 :

De : Ivan Lavall=E9e <ilavallee@ora= nge.fr>
Date = : 24 septembre 2008 11:03:46 HAEC

Le pb est le suivant, je tape le code= suivant, avec les indentations  et j'obtiens ce qui suit, SANS les in= dentations, or en principe, sous verbatim on doit obtenir exactement ce qu'= on tape, quelle erreur ai-je bien pu commettre comme aurait dit Bebel ?
= Ivan

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\title{G\'eom\'etrie non euclidienne}
\author{Nicola\"i Lobatchevski \and Janos= Boliay
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\begin{abstract}
O\`u l'on montre = que le 5eme postulat
d'Euclide est pris en d\'e= faut. \end{abstract}
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--Apple-Mail-19--872516114-- From - Wed Sep 24 12:07:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8OA6kJe092644 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:06:47 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from math.jussieu.fr (mail.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.55]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id m8OA6ag0080034 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:06:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 166 Received: from [192.168.0.124] (elzevir.fr [88.165.216.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by math.jussieu.fr (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8OA6Zsb004097 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:06:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48DA112B.3040309@elzevir.fr> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:06:35 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Manuel_P=E9gouri=E9-Gonnard?= User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: Fwd: [gut] Fwd: Toujours verbatim dans la classe beamer 3 References: <951A6350-82C5-4BE2-B2E3-1F7044D02BEC@orange.fr> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 OpenPGP: url=http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x50A89B42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/8323/Wed Sep 24 09:57:37 2008 on shiva.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94, clamav-milter version 0.94 on mail.math.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:06:47 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.166]); Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:06:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Miltered: at jchkmail.jussieu.fr with ID 48DA112D.001 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! 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From - Wed Sep 24 14:03:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.200]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8OC36ws050426 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:03:12 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14F69E8AED for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:03:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06031-07-4 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:03:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.204]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71DE59E83A2 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:03:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from acces.univ-fcomte.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 595213C2881 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:03:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (pla25-1-82-225-17-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.17.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by acces.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4EFF7C7B for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:03:01 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48DA2C61.1090202@univ-fcomte.fr> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:02:41 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?P=E9tiard_Fran=E7ois?= Reply-To: francois.petiard@univ-fcomte.fr Organization: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Universit=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: Fwd: [gut] Fwd: Toujours verbatim dans la classe beamer 3 References: <951A6350-82C5-4BE2-B2E3-1F7044D02BEC@orange.fr> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at univ-fcomte.fr X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:03:12 +0200 (CEST) Le 24/09/2008 11:16, Ivan Lavallée a écrit : >>> Le pb est le suivant, je tape le code suivant, avec les indentations >>> et j'obtiens ce qui suit, SANS les indentations, or en principe, sous >>> verbatim on doit obtenir exactement ce qu'on tape, quelle erreur >>> ai-je bien pu commettre comme aurait dit Bebel ? >>> Ivan >>> >>> %xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> % >>> Nouvelle diapo >>> %xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Chez moi, le code suivant \begin{frame}[fragile] \begin{verbatim} azerty \documentclass{article} \usepackage[francais]{babel} \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc} \title{G\'eom\'etrie non euclidienne} \author{Nicola\"i Lobatchevski \and Janos Boliay \thanks{Merci Gauss}} \date{1826} \begin{document} \maketitle \begin{abstract} O\`u l'on montre que le 5eme postulat d'Euclide est pris en d\'efaut. \end{abstract} \end{document} \end{verbatim} \end{frame} sort correctement indenté. François Pétiard From - Wed Sep 24 15:51:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.2 required=5.0 tests=BLANK_LINES_70_80 autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr (amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.2.202]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8ODpGqi015063 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:51:16 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr (tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.18.74]) by amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7/Configured by JE 21 07 2006) with ESMTP id m8ODpGwk068561 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:51:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 639445642B for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:51:16 +0200 (CEST) X-UJF-AV: Scanned on tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr Received: from tibre2.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre2.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.24.10]) by tana1.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 411BA5641E for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:51:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.241.15]) by tibre2.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/GB-Aout08) with ESMTP id m8ODpFgS062937 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:51:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from thierry.bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D2D5D0673 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:51:15 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr Received: from fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P2bhbCekYZCD for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:51:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from euclide.ujf-grenoble.fr (euclide.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.48.255.207]) by fourier.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83C8FD04F0 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:51:15 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:51:10 +0200 From: Thierry Bouche Organization: Institut Fourier X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <181237361.20080924155110@ujf-grenoble.fr> To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: Fwd: [gut] Fwd: Toujours verbatim dans la classe beamer 3 In-Reply-To: <48DA2C61.1090202@univ-fcomte.fr> References: <951A6350-82C5-4BE2-B2E3-1F7044D02BEC@orange.fr> <48DA2C61.1090202@univ-fcomte.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:51:16 +0200 (CEST) P> sort correctement indenté. est-ce à dire qu'il y perd toutes ses dents ? From - Wed Sep 24 17:59:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.200]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8OFwetI082064 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:58:48 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BDCA9E89FB for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:58:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26821-03 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:58:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.204]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090E89E8786 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:58:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from acces.univ-fcomte.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E498E3C2886 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:58:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (pla25-1-82-225-17-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.17.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by acces.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 777787C7B for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:58:38 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48DA639A.2080802@univ-fcomte.fr> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:58:18 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?P=E9tiard_Fran=E7ois?= Reply-To: francois.petiard@univ-fcomte.fr Organization: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Universit=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: Fwd: [gut] Fwd: Toujours verbatim dans la classe beamer 3 References: <951A6350-82C5-4BE2-B2E3-1F7044D02BEC@orange.fr> <48DA2C61.1090202@univ-fcomte.fr> <181237361.20080924155110@ujf-grenoble.fr> In-Reply-To: <181237361.20080924155110@ujf-grenoble.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at univ-fcomte.fr X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 24 Sep 2008 17:58:48 +0200 (CEST) Le 24/09/2008 15:51, Thierry Bouche a écrit : > P> sort correctement indenté. > > est-ce à dire qu'il y perd toutes ses dents ? > :-) Sur le site du TLFi : http://atilf.atilf.fr/ http://atilf.atilf.fr/dendien/scripts/tlfiv5/advanced.exe?8;s=501393495; en cherchant "indentation", on trouve : INDENTATION, subst. fém. Découpure, échancrure en coup de dent. Synon. dentelure, endenture. REM. 1. Indenté, -ée, adj. Qui porte une indentation. Synon. denté, dentelé. Chaque nervure secondaire sert d'axe à une foliole dont le bord est profondément indenté, chaque dent présentant elle-même sur son pourtour une denticulation plus fine (PLANTEFOL, Bot. et biol. végét., t. 2, 1931p. 211). 2. Indenté, -ée, adj. Bot. Qui ne porte ni dents, ni dentelures. Feuille indentée (dict. XIXe et XXe s.). Donc indenté aurait deux sens parfaitement contradictoires...! François Pétiard From - Wed Sep 24 21:25:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.200]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8OJOkOq066216 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:24:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2CE59E8B23 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:24:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10626-01 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:24:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.204]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 167169E89FB for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:24:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from acces.univ-fcomte.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D6F3C2881 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:24:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (pla25-1-82-225-17-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.17.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by acces.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A07F57C7B for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:24:44 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48DA93FB.9010108@univ-fcomte.fr> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:24:43 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?P=E9tiard_Fran=E7ois?= Reply-To: liste Gut Organization: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Universit=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: liste Gut Subject: Re: [gut] Fwd: Toujours verbatim dans la classe beamer 3 References: <951A6350-82C5-4BE2-B2E3-1F7044D02BEC@orange.fr> <48DA2C61.1090202@univ-fcomte.fr> <86F8E0A7-3664-4C23-91EA-F550E430CF2C@orange.fr> <48DA8E14.3020507@univ-fcomte.fr> <62BA8A2D-3E52-4B05-84CB-CDA0D35F18D9@orange.fr> In-Reply-To: <62BA8A2D-3E52-4B05-84CB-CDA0D35F18D9@orange.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at univ-fcomte.fr X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:24:52 +0200 (CEST) Le 24/09/2008 21:10, Ivan Lavallée a écrit : > > Merci > Le 24 sept. 08 à 20:59, Pétiard François a écrit : > >> >> Le 24/09/2008 19:42, Ivan Lavallée a écrit : >>> ben pas chez moi, les caractères sont les bons, j'ai bien >>> \usepackage{verbatim} dans le préambule, tout est bien, sauf >>> l'indentation... >>> Ivan >> >> Donnez un ECM qui montre le problème. >> >> François Pétiard >> >> >> > Remplacez les tabulations par des espaces et ça marchera. François Pétiard From - Wed Sep 24 21:47:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2e.orange.fr (smtp2e.orange.fr [80.12.242.113]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8OJkuqb072519 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:47:01 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2e26.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6C5897000047 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:46:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.5] (APuteaux-153-1-12-235.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.124.181.235]) by mwinf2e26.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 2FCB27000046 for ; Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:46:56 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080924194656195.2FCB27000046@mwinf2e26.orange.fr Message-Id: <850F8C80-025D-4BFB-B5F0-F33EB8068D9D@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: liste Gut In-Reply-To: <48DA93FB.9010108@univ-fcomte.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: [gut] Fwd: Toujours verbatim dans la classe beamer 3 Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:46:55 +0200 References: <951A6350-82C5-4BE2-B2E3-1F7044D02BEC@orange.fr> <48DA2C61.1090202@univ-fcomte.fr> <86F8E0A7-3664-4C23-91EA-F550E430CF2C@orange.fr> <48DA8E14.3020507@univ-fcomte.fr> <62BA8A2D-3E52-4B05-84CB-CDA0D35F18D9@orange.fr> <48DA93FB.9010108@univ-fcomte.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:47:01 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8OJkuqb072519 OK ca marche, merci Ivan Le 24 sept. 08 à 21:24, Pétiard François a écrit : > > Le 24/09/2008 21:10, Ivan Lavallée a écrit : >> Merci >> Le 24 sept. 08 à 20:59, Pétiard François a écrit : >>> >>> Le 24/09/2008 19:42, Ivan Lavallée a écrit : >>>> ben pas chez moi, les caractères sont les bons, j'ai bien >>>> \usepackage{verbatim} dans le préambule, tout est bien, sauf >>>> l'indentation... >>>> Ivan >>> >>> Donnez un ECM qui montre le problème. >>> >>> François Pétiard >>> >>> >>> > > Remplacez les tabulations par des espaces et ça marchera. > > François Pétiard > > From - Thu Sep 25 12:22:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from mso1k193.u-3mrs.fr (mso1k193.u-3mrs.fr [195.221.207.193]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8PAMUwY004355 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:22:41 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from aix0u020.u-3mrs.fr (HELO [10.13.3.2]) ([194.214.88.20]) by mso1k193.u-3mrs.fr with ESMTP; 25 Sep 2008 12:22:29 +0200 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Am0BAPoC20jC1lgU/2dsb2JhbAAIuz2BZQ X-IronPort-AV: i="4.33,307,1220220000"; d="scan'208"; a="198558683:sNHT388201730" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) To: gut@ens.fr Message-Id: <9501f7b350781696a0c05d5cbbfb1463@aix.inra.fr> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--782188356 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Guilhem_Bourri=E9?= Subject: franciser la bibliographie Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:22:27 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:22:41 +0200 (CEST) --Apple-Mail-1--782188356 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Bonjour, comment franciser la bibliographie avec BibTeX ? Bien cordialement, Guilhem Bourri=E9 INRA G=E9ochimie des sols et des eaux Europ=F4le m=E9diterran=E9en de l'Arbois B=E2timent La=EBnnec BP 80 F 13545 Aix-en-Provence cedex 04 T=E9l.: +33 4 42 90 85 41 Fax : +33 4 42 90 85 17 =20=20 --Apple-Mail-1--782188356 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Bonjour, comment franciser la bibliographie avec BibTeX ? Bien cordialement, HelveticaGuilhem Bourri=E9 INRA G=E9ochimie des sols et des eaux Europ=F4le m=E9diterran=E9en de l'Arbois B=E2timent La=EBnnec BP 80 F 13545 Aix-en-Provence cedex 04 T=E9l.: +33 4 42 90 85 41 Fax : +33 4 42 90 85 17 --Apple-Mail-1--782188356-- From - Thu Sep 25 12:38:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (smtp20.orange.fr [193.252.22.31]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8PAcaQ8012780 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:38:36 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2024.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E29B91C0006A for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:38:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from drums.chezmoi.fr (ALille-156-1-78-225.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.47.237.225]) by mwinf2024.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id BA0751C000BF for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:38:35 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080925103835762.BA0751C000BF@mwinf2024.orange.fr Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:40:51 +0200 From: Denis =?UTF-8?B?Qml0b3V6w6k=?= To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] franciser la bibliographie Message-ID: <20080925124051.59673099@drums.chezmoi.fr> In-Reply-To: <9501f7b350781696a0c05d5cbbfb1463@aix.inra.fr> References: <9501f7b350781696a0c05d5cbbfb1463@aix.inra.fr> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i586-mandriva-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:38:36 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8PAcaQ8012780 Le jeudi 25/09/08 à 12h22, Guilhem Bourrié a écrit : > comment franciser la bibliographie avec BibTeX ? http://tug.ctan.org/cgi-bin/ctanPackageInformation.py?id=bib-fr -- Denis From - Thu Sep 25 15:11:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from relay-am.club-internet.fr (relay-am.club-internet.fr [194.158.104.67]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8PDAoGP083102 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:10:56 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from magellan (did75-5-87-91-253-47.dsl.club-internet.fr [87.91.253.47]) by relay-am.club-internet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31F225606 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:10:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: by magellan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4C8C5ED8A6; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:10:49 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:10:49 +0200 From: Philippe Delavalade To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Question sur les tirets Message-ID: <20080925131049.GA32358@club-internet.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 25 Sep 2008 15:10:56 +0200 (CEST) Bonjour. Une question élémentaire sur les tirets : hormis « --- » et « -- » je crois qu'il existe des commandes ressemblant à \mdash et \ndash mais le compilateur me les refuse ; est-ce que mes commandes sont correctes et si oui, dans quel paquet les trouve-t-on ? Merci d'avance. -------------- Ph. 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Th. From - Thu Sep 25 19:13:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from di.ens.fr (di.ens.fr [129.199.99.1]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8PHDA26094695 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:13:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (ccheval@localhost) by di.ens.fr (8.13.6/jb-1.1) id m8PHD60G031076 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:13:06 +0200 X-Envelope-To: X-Authentication-Warning: di.ens.fr: ccheval owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:13:06 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?C=E9line?= X-X-Sender: ccheval@di.ens.fr To: liste Gut Subject: Re: [gut] Fwd: Toujours verbatim dans la classe beamer 3 In-Reply-To: <850F8C80-025D-4BFB-B5F0-F33EB8068D9D@orange.fr> Message-ID: References: <951A6350-82C5-4BE2-B2E3-1F7044D02BEC@orange.fr> <48DA2C61.1090202@univ-fcomte.fr> <86F8E0A7-3664-4C23-91EA-F550E430CF2C@orange.fr> <48DA8E14.3020507@univ-fcomte.fr> <62BA8A2D-3E52-4B05-84CB-CDA0D35F18D9@orange.fr> <48DA93FB.9010108@univ-fcomte.fr> <850F8C80-025D-4BFB-B5F0-F33EB8068D9D@orange.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-947846813-2121766786-1222362786=:29903" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:13:10 +0200 (CEST) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---947846813-2121766786-1222362786=:29903 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Oui bien le package moreverb et l'environnement verbatimtab. \begin{verbatimtab}[4] remplace toutes les tabulations par 4 espaces. Céline On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, Ivan Lavallée wrote: > OK ca marche, merci > Ivan > Le 24 sept. 08 à 21:24, Pétiard François a écrit : > >> >> Le 24/09/2008 21:10, Ivan Lavallée a écrit : >>> Merci >>> Le 24 sept. 08 à 20:59, Pétiard François a écrit : >>>> >>>> Le 24/09/2008 19:42, Ivan Lavallée a écrit : >>>>> ben pas chez moi, les caractères sont les bons, j'ai bien >>>>> \usepackage{verbatim} dans le préambule, tout est bien, sauf >>>>> l'indentation... >>>>> Ivan >>>> >>>> Donnez un ECM qui montre le problème. >>>> >>>> François Pétiard >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> Remplacez les tabulations par des espaces et ça marchera. >> >> François Pétiard >> >> > > ---947846813-2121766786-1222362786=:29903-- From - Thu Sep 25 19:54:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from relay-cv.club-internet.fr (relay-cv.club-internet.fr [194.158.96.103]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8PHrl2I008930 for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:53:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from magellan (unknown [87.91.253.47]) by relay-cv.club-internet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 231762561B for ; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:53:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: by magellan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D2092ED8A6; Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:53:44 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:53:44 +0200 From: Philippe Delavalade To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Question sur les tirets Message-ID: <20080925175344.GA5086@club-internet.fr> References: <20080925131049.GA32358@club-internet.fr> <855975529.20080925152849@ujf-grenoble.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <855975529.20080925152849@ujf-grenoble.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:53:52 +0200 (CEST) Bonjour. Le jeudi 25 septembre à 15:28, Thierry Bouche a écrit : > Bonjour, > > Le jeudi 25 septembre 2008, vers 15:10:49, Philippe Delavalade écrivit : > > P> Une question élémentaire sur les tirets : hormis « --- » et « -- » je crois > P> qu'il existe des commandes ressemblant à \mdash et \ndash mais le > P> compilateur me les refuse ; est-ce que mes commandes sont correctes et si > P> oui, dans quel paquet les trouve-t-on ? > > dans les paquets de l'AMS. Les paquets AMS étaient chargés mais ça ne marchait pas ! J'ai fait grâce à vous une recherche par find dans les fichiers de l'AMS et ça m'a permis de trouver les bonnes commandes, apparemment \textemdash et \textendash. Une nouvelle recherche et j'ai vu qu'elles étaient dans t1enc.def. Merci beaucoup. -------------- Ph. Delavalade From - Fri Sep 26 00:20:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2e.orange.fr (smtp2e.orange.fr [80.12.242.111]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8PMJfUR093146 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 00:19:51 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2e01.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 09FC6700008F for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 00:19:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.5] (APuteaux-153-1-71-45.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.249.117.45]) by mwinf2e01.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D8C3A700008C for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 00:19:40 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080925221940887.D8C3A700008C@mwinf2e01.orange.fr Message-Id: <0E5C2A88-E4BE-4106-967F-F761AC15FD13@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: liste Gut Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Classe Beamer Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 00:19:40 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 26 Sep 2008 00:19:51 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8PMJfUR093146 J'ai admiré les transparents de Denis Bitouzé, mais j'avoue ne pas avoir compris comment on utilise la couleur. J(ai compris pour \alert{}, mais si je veux mettre du texte en bleu ou en vert oi en magenta, je fais comment ? Et les blocks qui apparaissent tantôt en orange, tantôt en bleu... Ivan From - Fri Sep 26 08:58:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (smtp20.orange.fr [80.12.242.27]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8Q6wPeB003252 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 08:58:31 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2011.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id ADAB81C0009B for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 08:58:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from drums.chezmoi.fr (ALille-156-1-49-213.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.47.108.213]) by mwinf2011.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 20A261C0008F for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 08:58:25 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080926065825133.20A261C0008F@mwinf2011.orange.fr Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 09:00:41 +0200 From: Denis =?UTF-8?B?Qml0b3V6w6k=?= To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Classe Beamer Message-ID: <20080926090041.7f86d00e@drums.chezmoi.fr> In-Reply-To: <0E5C2A88-E4BE-4106-967F-F761AC15FD13@orange.fr> References: <0E5C2A88-E4BE-4106-967F-F761AC15FD13@orange.fr> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i586-mandriva-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 26 Sep 2008 08:58:31 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8Q6wPeB003252 Le vendredi 26/09/08 à 00h19, Ivan Lavallée a écrit : > J'ai admiré Merci, merci, c'est trop... :) > les transparents de Denis Bitouzé, mais j'avoue ne pas > avoir compris comment on utilise la couleur. J(ai compris pour > \alert{}, mais si je veux mettre du texte en bleu ou en vert oi en > magenta, je fais comment ? Tout simplement : \textcolor{...}{...}. Il y a aussi la commande \structure qui colorie avec la couleur dominante du thème Beamer utilisé. > Et les blocks qui apparaissent tantôt en orange, tantôt en bleu... Je n'ai pas encore eu le temps de finir le ménage dans mes sources pour les rendre publiques donc voici seulement quelques exemples (je peux fournir le(s) fichier(s) .sty complet(s) en privé à ceux que ça intéresse) : %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \newcommand{\IfEmpty}{\@ifmtarg} % Définition des couleurs \colorlet{code}{red!50!yellow} \colorlet{syntaxe}{violet} \colorlet{exemple}{green} \colorlet{resultat}{green!75!black} % Définition des blocks \newenvironment<>{ExempleCode}[1][]{%%Début env \setbeamercolor{block title}{bg=code} \begin{minipage}{\linewidth}% \begin{block}{% \IfEmpty{#1}{Code source}{Code source (#1)}% }% }{%%Fin env \end{block} \end{minipage}% } \newenvironment<>{Exemple}[1][]{%%Début env \setbeamercolor{block title}{bg=beamerexample} \begin{minipage}{\linewidth}% \begin{block}{\IfEmpty{#1}{Exemple}{Exemple (#1)}}% }{%%Fin env \end{block}% \end{minipage}% } \newenvironment<>{Attention}[1][]{%%Début env \begin{minipage}{\linewidth}% \begin{alertblock}{\IfEmpty{#1}{Attention\,!}{Attention (#1)\,!}}% }{%%Fin env \end{alertblock}% \end{minipage}% } \newenvironment<>{Resultat}[1][]{%%Début env \setbeamercolor{block title}{bg=resultat} \begin{minipage}{\linewidth}% \begin{block}{Résultat \IfEmpty{#1}{}{{\small\color{black}(#1)}}}% % \begin{scriptsize}% }{%%Fin env % \end{scriptsize}% \end{block}% \end{minipage}% } % Définitions des blocks d'exemples \newenvironment{ExempleDessous}{% \nobreak% \VerbatimEnvironment% \catcode`\<=12% \begin{VerbatimOut}{TexteExemple.tex}% }{\end{VerbatimOut}% \begin{exampleblock}{Exemple}% \vspace{-3ex}% \begin{columns}[t]% \begin{column}{.9\linewidth}% \begin{Code}% \lstinputlisting{TexteExemple.tex}% \end{Code}% \pause{}% \begin{Resultat}% \input{TexteExemple.tex}% \end{Resultat}% \end{column}% \end{columns}% \end{exampleblock}% } %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Il faut quelques packages pour que cela fonctionne, au moins : -- xcolor (mais il est déjà chargé par beamer) -- ifmtarg -- fancyvrb -- listings Ma configuration de listings est la suivante : \colorlet{texcs}{blue} \colorlet{comment}{gray} \colorlet{keyword}{red!75!black} \colorlet{option}{olive!75!black} \colorlet{keyword2}{option} \colorlet{math}{green!50!black} \colorlet{meta}{purple} \colorlet{relief}{gray} \colorlet{autrerelief}{alert} \newcommand{\meta}[1]{{\color{meta}{\normalfont\textlangle}\emph{#1}{\normalfont\textrangle}}} \newcommand{\option}[1]{{\color{option}\lstinline[basicstyle=\ttfamily]+#1+}} \newcommand{\keyword}[1]{{\color{keyword}\lstinline[basicstyle=\ttfamily]+#1+}} \lstset{ alsolanguage=[PSTricks]TeX, % cf. lstlang0.sty alsolanguage=[Beamer]TeX, % cf. lstlang0.sty alsolanguage=[BibTeX]TeX, % cf. lstlang0.sty alsolanguage=[AlLaTeX]TeX, gobble=2, breaklines=true, aboveskip=0pt, belowskip=0pt, escapeinside="", extendedchars=true, % inputencoding=latin1, framesep=0pt, rulesep=0pt, numbers=left, numbersep=5pt, numberstyle=\scriptsize,basicstyle=\scriptsize\ttfamily, % numberstyle=\small,basicstyle=\small\ttfamily, texcsstyle=*\color{texcs}, keywordstyle=\color{keyword}, keywordstyle=[2]\color{keyword2}, commentstyle=\color{gray}\itshape, % moredelim=*[is][\color{meta}\normalfont\textlangle\itshape]{<}{>}, moredelim=*[s][\color{option}\ttfamily]{[}{]}, moredelim=*[s][\color{math}\ttfamily]{\[}{\]}, % moredelim=*[is][\color{math}\ttfamily]{/-}{µ}, moredelim=*[s][\color{math}\ttfamily]{$}{$}, moredelim=[is][\color{relief}\itshape]{/*}{*/}, moredelim=[is][\color{autrerelief}]{/+}{+/}, morecomment=[is]{/=}{=/}, morecomment=[in]{comment=}{,}, fancyvrb=true, % columns=flexible, moretexcs={% abs,abstractname,AC,address,aleph,allsectionsfont,alpha,amalg,angle,angstrom,appendix,% approx,approxeq,Arccos,arccos,arcsin,Arcsin,arctan,arg,Arrowvert,arrowvert,ascnode,% ast,astrosun,asymp,backepsilon,backmatter,backsim,backsimeq,backslash,barwedge,Bbbk,Beam,% 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singlespace,small,spacing,split,subequations,equation,table,theorem,tiny,titlepage,verse,vmatrix,Vmatrix,% ,thebibliography,% name,text,first,firstplural,plural,symbol,sort% } } -- Denis From - Fri Sep 26 15:40:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2b.orange.fr (smtp2b.orange.fr [80.12.242.145]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8QDdisM014186 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:39:50 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2b12.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CA5D270000D5 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:39:44 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.47] (AMontsouris-151-1-47-6.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.123.156.6]) by mwinf2b12.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B03E970000B0 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:39:44 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080926133944722.B03E970000B0@mwinf2b12.orange.fr Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: liste Gut Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: french Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:39:44 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:39:50 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8QDdisM014186 Quelle est la différence entre \usepackage[french]{babel} et \usepackage[frenchbb]{babel} ?? Ivan From - Fri Sep 26 15:52:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (smtp20.orange.fr [80.12.242.27]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8QDq4xX022202 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:52:09 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2009.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 34FDB1C00118 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:52:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from drums.chezmoi.fr (ALille-156-1-49-213.w90-47.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.47.108.213]) by mwinf2009.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0EDF41C00117 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:52:04 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080926135204609.0EDF41C00117@mwinf2009.orange.fr Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:54:21 +0200 From: Denis =?UTF-8?B?Qml0b3V6w6k=?= To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] french Message-ID: <20080926155421.0afe5260@drums.chezmoi.fr> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i586-mandriva-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:52:09 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8QDq4xX022202 Le vendredi 26/09/08 à 15h39, Ivan Lavallée a écrit : > Quelle est la différence entre \usepackage[french]{babel} et > \usepackage[frenchbb]{babel} ?? Cf. http://groups.google.fr/group/fr.comp.text.tex/browse_thread/thread/44a3e70f2741f479 -- Denis From - Fri Sep 26 16:13:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp23.orange.fr (smtp23.orange.fr [80.12.242.97]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8QEDRpL044738 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:13:32 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2313.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 983AB700009D for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:13:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.47] (AMontsouris-151-1-47-6.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.123.156.6]) by mwinf2313.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 794FB700008E for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:13:26 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080926141326496.794FB700008E@mwinf2313.orange.fr Message-Id: <04EFB15A-82D5-4A5D-9FF3-684EC0AC38BD@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: <20080926155421.0afe5260@drums.chezmoi.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: [gut] french Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:13:25 +0200 References: <20080926155421.0afe5260@drums.chezmoi.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:13:32 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8QEDRpL044738 OK merci Le 26 sept. 08 à 15:54, Denis Bitouzé a écrit : > > Le vendredi 26/09/08 à 15h39, > Ivan Lavallée a écrit : > >> Quelle est la différence entre \usepackage[french]{babel} et >> \usepackage[frenchbb]{babel} ?? > > Cf. > > http://groups.google.fr/group/fr.comp.text.tex/browse_thread/thread/44a3e70f2741f479 > -- > Denis > > > From - Fri Sep 26 16:20:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp23.orange.fr (smtp23.orange.fr [80.12.242.97]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8QEJf5M051365 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:19:47 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2313.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B3AA970000B7 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:19:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.47] (AMontsouris-151-1-47-6.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.123.156.6]) by mwinf2313.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 452F9700009D for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:19:41 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080926141941283.452F9700009D@mwinf2313.orange.fr Message-Id: <05EB9CBE-F164-4EB9-BCC1-77D314B4D714@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: <20080926090041.7f86d00e@drums.chezmoi.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: [gut] Classe Beamer Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:19:40 +0200 References: <0E5C2A88-E4BE-4106-967F-F761AC15FD13@orange.fr> <20080926090041.7f86d00e@drums.chezmoi.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:19:47 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8QEJf5M051365 Et en chinois du IX eme siècle ça donne quoi ? Ivan Le 26 sept. 08 à 09:00, Denis Bitouzé a écrit : > > Le vendredi 26/09/08 à 00h19, > Ivan Lavallée a écrit : > >> J'ai admiré > > Merci, merci, c'est trop... :) > >> les transparents de Denis Bitouzé, mais j'avoue ne pas >> avoir compris comment on utilise la couleur. J(ai compris pour >> \alert{}, mais si je veux mettre du texte en bleu ou en vert oi en >> magenta, je fais comment ? > > Tout simplement : \textcolor{...}{...}. Il y a aussi la commande > \structure qui colorie avec la couleur dominante du thème Beamer > utilisé. > >> Et les blocks qui apparaissent tantôt en orange, tantôt en bleu... > > Je n'ai pas encore eu le temps de finir le ménage dans mes sources > pour > les rendre publiques donc voici seulement quelques exemples (je peux > fournir le(s) fichier(s) .sty complet(s) en privé à ceux que ça > intéresse) : > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > \newcommand{\IfEmpty}{\@ifmtarg} > > % Définition des couleurs > > \colorlet{code}{red!50!yellow} > \colorlet{syntaxe}{violet} > \colorlet{exemple}{green} > \colorlet{resultat}{green!75!black} > > % Définition des blocks > > \newenvironment<>{ExempleCode}[1][]{%%Début env > \setbeamercolor{block title}{bg=code} > \begin{minipage}{\linewidth}% > \begin{block}{% > \IfEmpty{#1}{Code source}{Code source (#1)}% > }% > }{%%Fin env > \end{block} > \end{minipage}% > } > > \newenvironment<>{Exemple}[1][]{%%Début env > \setbeamercolor{block title}{bg=beamerexample} > \begin{minipage}{\linewidth}% > \begin{block}{\IfEmpty{#1}{Exemple}{Exemple (#1)}}% > }{%%Fin env > \end{block}% > \end{minipage}% > } > > \newenvironment<>{Attention}[1][]{%%Début env > \begin{minipage}{\linewidth}% > \begin{alertblock}{\IfEmpty{#1}{Attention\,!}{Attention (#1)\,!}}% > }{%%Fin env > \end{alertblock}% > \end{minipage}% > } > > \newenvironment<>{Resultat}[1][]{%%Début env > \setbeamercolor{block title}{bg=resultat} > \begin{minipage}{\linewidth}% > \begin{block}{Résultat > \IfEmpty{#1}{}{{\small\color{black}(#1)}}}% > % \begin{scriptsize}% > }{%%Fin env > % \end{scriptsize}% > \end{block}% > \end{minipage}% > } > > % Définitions des blocks d'exemples > > \newenvironment{ExempleDessous}{% > \nobreak% > \VerbatimEnvironment% > \catcode`\<=12% > \begin{VerbatimOut}{TexteExemple.tex}% > }{\end{VerbatimOut}% > \begin{exampleblock}{Exemple}% > \vspace{-3ex}% > \begin{columns}[t]% > \begin{column}{.9\linewidth}% > \begin{Code}% > \lstinputlisting{TexteExemple.tex}% > \end{Code}% > \pause{}% > \begin{Resultat}% > \input{TexteExemple.tex}% > \end{Resultat}% > \end{column}% > \end{columns}% > \end{exampleblock}% > } > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > Il faut quelques packages pour que cela fonctionne, au moins : > > -- xcolor (mais il est déjà chargé par beamer) > -- ifmtarg > -- fancyvrb > -- listings > > Ma configuration de listings est la suivante : > > \colorlet{texcs}{blue} > \colorlet{comment}{gray} > \colorlet{keyword}{red!75!black} > \colorlet{option}{olive!75!black} > \colorlet{keyword2}{option} > \colorlet{math}{green!50!black} > \colorlet{meta}{purple} > \colorlet{relief}{gray} > \colorlet{autrerelief}{alert} > > \newcommand{\meta}[1]{{\color{meta}{\normalfont\textlangle}\emph{#1} > {\normalfont\textrangle}}} > \newcommand{\option}[1]{{\color{option}\lstinline[basicstyle= > \ttfamily]+#1+}} > \newcommand{\keyword}[1]{{\color{keyword}\lstinline[basicstyle= > \ttfamily]+#1+}} > > \lstset{ > alsolanguage=[PSTricks]TeX, % cf. lstlang0.sty > alsolanguage=[Beamer]TeX, % cf. lstlang0.sty > alsolanguage=[BibTeX]TeX, % cf. lstlang0.sty > alsolanguage=[AlLaTeX]TeX, > gobble=2, > breaklines=true, > aboveskip=0pt, > belowskip=0pt, > escapeinside="", > extendedchars=true, > % inputencoding=latin1, > framesep=0pt, > rulesep=0pt, > numbers=left, > numbersep=5pt, > numberstyle=\scriptsize,basicstyle=\scriptsize\ttfamily, > % numberstyle=\small,basicstyle=\small\ttfamily, > texcsstyle=*\color{texcs}, > keywordstyle=\color{keyword}, > keywordstyle=[2]\color{keyword2}, > commentstyle=\color{gray}\itshape, > % moredelim=*[is][\color{meta}\normalfont\textlangle\itshape]{<}{>}, > moredelim=*[s][\color{option}\ttfamily]{[}{]}, > moredelim=*[s][\color{math}\ttfamily]{\[}{\]}, > % moredelim=*[is][\color{math}\ttfamily]{/-}{µ}, > moredelim=*[s][\color{math}\ttfamily]{$}{$}, > moredelim=[is][\color{relief}\itshape]{/*}{*/}, > moredelim=[is][\color{autrerelief}]{/+}{+/}, > morecomment=[is]{/=}{=/}, > morecomment=[in]{comment=}{,}, > fancyvrb=true, > % columns=flexible, > moretexcs={% > > abs > ,abstractname > ,AC > ,address,aleph,allsectionsfont,alpha,amalg,angle,angstrom,appendix,% > > approx > ,approxeq > ,Arccos,arccos,arcsin,Arcsin,arctan,arg,Arrowvert,arrowvert,ascnode,% > > ast > ,astrosun > ,asymp > ,backepsilon > ,backmatter,backsim,backsimeq,backslash,barwedge,Bbbk,Beam,% > > Bearing > ,because > ,beta,beth,between,bibname,bigcap,bigcirc,bigcup,bigodot,bigoplus,% > > bigotimes > ,bigsqcup > ,bigstar > ,bigtriangledown > ,bigtriangleup,biguplus,bigvee,bigwedge,blacklozenge,blacksquare,% > > blacktriangle > ,blacktriangledown > ,blacktriangleleft > ,blacktriangleright,bm,bmdefine,boal,bot,bowtie,boxdot,boxminus,% > > boxplus > ,boxtimes > ,bracevert,bsc,bullet,Bumpeq,bumpeq,cap,Cap,cdot,cdots,centerdot,% > > cfoot > ,chapter > ,chapterfont > ,chead > ,chi > ,circ,circeq,circlearrowleft,circlearrowright,circledast,circledcirc,% > > circleddash > ,circledR > ,circledS > ,Circpipe > ,Circsteel,citealp,citealt,citeauthor,citeleft,citep,citeright,% > > citet > ,citeyear > ,citeyearpar > ,closing,clubsuit,colon,color,colorbox,compl,complement,cong,% > > contentsname > ,coprod,cos,cosh,cot,coth,csc,cup,Cup,curlyeqprec,curlyeqsucc,% > > curlyvee > ,curlywedge > ,currenttime > ,curvearrowleft > ,curvearrowright > ,dagger,daleth,dashleftarrow,dashrightarrow,dashv,dbend,% > > dd > ,ddagger > ,ddddot,dddot,ddots,DeclareMathOperator,deg,Delta,delta,descnode,det,% > > dfrac > ,diamond > ,diamondsuit > ,dim,ding,dingfill,dingline,div,divideontimes,doteq,doteqdot,% > > dotplus > ,doublebarwedge > ,doublespace > ,doublespacing > ,downarrow,Downarrow,downarrow,downdownarrows,downharpoonleft,% > > downharpoonright > ,dplan > ,earth > ,ell > ,emblema > ,emptyset,entiere,epsilon,eqcirc,eqref,eqslantgtr,eqslantless,equiv,% > > eta > ,eth > ,exists > ,exp > ,expo,fallingdotseq,FallingEdge,fcolorbox,FEMALE,Female,FemaleFemale,% > > FemaleMale > ,fg > ,Finv > ,Fixedbearing > ,flat > ,Flatsteel > ,footrulewidth,forall,Force,FrenchFootnotes,FrenchLabelItem,% > > frontmatter > ,frown,fullmoon,Game,gamma,Gamma,gcd,geometry,geq,geqq,geqslant,% > gg,ggg,gimel,gluon,gnapprox,gneq,gneqq,gnsim,grad,grave,gtrapprox,% > > gtrdot > ,gtreqless > ,gtreqqless > ,gtrless > ,gtrsim > ,gvertneqq,hbar,hdotsfor,headrulewidth,heartsuit,HERMAPHRODITE,% > > Hermaphrodite > ,Hexasteel > ,HF,hl,hom,hookleftarrow,hookrightarrow,hour,href,hslash,hyperlink,% > hypertarget,idotsint,ieme,ier,iere,iiiint,iiint,iint,Im,imath,in,% > > includegraphics > ,inf,infty,int,intercal,intertext,iota,jmath,Join,jupiter,kappa,% > > ker > ,kilo > ,labelitemi > ,labelitemii > ,labelitemiii,labelitemiv,lambda,Lambda,langle,lceil,ldots,% > > leadsto > ,leftarrow > ,Leftarrow > ,leftarrowtail,leftharpoondown,leftharpoonup,leftleftarrows,% > leftmoon,Leftrightarrow,leftrightarrow,leftrightarrows,% > leftrightharpoons,leftrightsquigarrow,leftthreetimes,Lefttorque,% > leq,leqq,leqslant,lessapprox,lessdot,lesseqgtr,lesseqqgtr,% > > lessgtr,lesssim,lfloor,lfoot,lg,lgroup,lhd,lhead,lim,liminf,limsup,% > > Lineload > ,listoffigures > ,listoftables > ,listtheorems > ,ll,Lleftarrow,lll,lmoustache,ln,lnapprox,lneq,lneqq,lnsim,% > > location > ,log > ,longleftarrow > ,Longleftarrow > ,longleftrightarrow > ,Longleftrightarrow,longmapsto,LongPulseHigh,LongPulseLow,% > > longrightarrow > ,Longrightarrow > ,looparrowleft > ,looparrowright > ,Loosebearing,lozenge,Lsh,Lsteel,lstinline,lstinputlisting,% > > lstset > ,ltimes > ,lvert > ,lVert > ,lvertneqq,mainmatter,maketitle,MALE,Male,MaleMale,mapsto,margins,% > > mars > ,mathbb > ,mathcal > ,mathdollar > ,mathellipsis > ,mathfrak,mathparagraph,mathring,mathscr,mathsection,mathsterling,% > > mathunderscore > ,max,measuredangle,mercury,meter,metre,mho,micro,mid,min,models,% > mp,mu,multimap,multirow,nabla,nano,natu,natural,ncong,nearrow,neg,% > > neptune > ,neq > ,Neutral > ,newframedtheorem > ,newmoon,newshadedtheorem,newtagform,nexists,ngeq,ngeqq,ngeqslant,% > > ngtr > ,nleftarrow > ,nLeftarrow > ,nLeftrightarrow,nleftrightarrow,nleq,nleqq,nleqslant,nless,nmid,no,% > > nombre > ,notag > ,notin > ,nparallel > ,nprec,npreceq,nrightarrow,nRightarrow,nshortmid,nshortparallel,nsim,% > > nsubseteq > ,nsucc > ,nsucceq > ,nsupseteq > ,nsupseteqq > ,ntriangleleft,ntrianglelefteq,ntriangleright,ntrianglerighteq,nu,% > > numberline > ,nVDash > ,nvdash > ,nvDash > ,nwarrow > ,Octosteel > ,odot,og,oint,Omega,omega,ominus,onehalfspace,onehalfspacing,% > > opening > ,oplus > ,oslash > ,otimes > ,overbrace,overleftarrow,overleftrightarrow,overline,overrightarrow,% > > overset > ,P > ,pagecolor > ,panelfullscreenname > ,panelhomepagename,paragraph,parallel,part,partial,per,perp,% > phi,Phi,photon,Pi,pi,pico,pitchfork,pluto,pm,pounds,Pr,% > > prec > ,precapprox > ,preccurlyeq > ,preceq,precnapprox,precneqq,precnsim,precsim,preelle,prod,propto,% > > providecommand > ,psi > ,Psi > ,PulseHigh,PulseLow,RaisingEdge,rangle,rceil,Re,Rectpipe,Rectsteel,% > > reels > ,refname > ,rela,rfloor,rfoot,rgroup,rhd,rhead,rho,rightarrow,Rightarrow,% > > rightarrowtail > ,rightharpoondown > ,rightharpoonup,rightleftarrows,rightleftharpoons,rightmoon,% > > rightrightarrows > ,rightsquigarrow,rightthreetimes,Righttorque,risingdotseq,% > > rmoustache > ,RoundedLsteel > ,RoundedTsteel > ,RoundedTTsteel,Rsh,rtimes,rVert,rvert,S,saturn,savebox,% > > sc > ,screensize > ,searrow > ,sec > ,second > ,sectionfont > ,setdescription,setenumerate,sethlcolor,setitemize,setlength,% > > setlist > ,setminus > ,setstretch > ,sf > ,shadecolor > ,shadowbox > ,shortmid,shortparallel,ShortPulseHigh,ShortPulseLow,shoveleft,% > > shoveright > ,sideset > ,sigma,Sigma,signature,sim,simeq,sin,singlespacing,sinh,smallfrown,% > > smallsetminus > ,smallsmile > ,smile > ,sphericalangle > ,sqcap,sqcup,sqsubset,sqsubseteq,sqsupset,sqsupseteq,square,% > > Squarepipe > ,Squaresteel > ,star > ,subequations > ,subparagraph > ,subsection,subsectionfont,subset,Subset,subseteq,subseteqq,% > > subsetneq > ,subsetneqq > ,substack > ,subsubsection > ,succ,succapprox,succcurlyeq,succeq,succnapprox,succneqq,succnsim,% > > succsim > ,sum > ,sup > ,supset > ,Supset > ,supseteq,supseteqq,supsetneq,supsetneqq,swarrow,tableofcontents,% > > tag > ,tan > ,tanh > ,tau > ,telephone,text,textcelsius,textcolor,textdbend,textdegree,textmho,% > > textmu > ,textohm > ,textperthousand > ,textpm > ,thanks > ,theenumi > ,theequation,theorembodyfont,theoremheaderfont,theoremlisttype,% > > theoremnumbering > ,theorempostwork > ,theoremprework,theoremseparator,theoremstyle,theoremsymbol,% > theparentequation,therefore,thesection,Theta,theta,thickapprox,% > > thicksim > ,times > ,timeseparator > ,to > ,top > ,toto,triangle,triangledown,triangleleft,trianglelefteq,triangleq,% > > triangleright > ,trianglerighteq > ,Tsteel > ,TTsteel > ,twoheadleftarrow,twoheadrightarrow,underbrace,underleftarrow,% > underleftrightarrow,underline,underrightarrow,% > > underset > ,unit > ,unlhd > ,unrhd > ,up > ,Uparrow > ,uparrow,updownarrow,Updownarrow,upharpoonleft,upharpoonright,% > > uplus > ,upsilon > ,Upsilon > ,upuparrows > ,uranus,url,usetagform,varepsilon,varliminf,varlimsup,varnothing,% > > varphi > ,varpi > ,varpropto > ,varrho > ,varsigma > ,varsubsetneq > ,varsubsetneqq,varsupsetneq,varsupsetneqq,vartheta,vartriangleleft,% > > vartriangleright > ,vDash > ,Vdash > ,vdash > ,vdots,vee,veebar,venus,vernal,VHF,vitk,toprule,midrule,bottomrule,% > > vitm > ,vpageref > ,vref > ,vv > ,Vvdash > ,wedge > ,wp > ,wr > ,Xi > ,xi,xleftarrow,xrightarrow,zeta,euro,EUR,printindex,see,setcounter,% > > makeglossaries > ,printglossaries > ,newglossaryentry > ,gls,Gls,GLS,glspl,Glspl,GLSpl,newacronym,loadglsentries% > },% > morekeywords={% > > abstract > ,alertblock > ,align > ,beamerboxesrounded > ,beamercolorbox > ,block,blockarray,Bmatrix,bmatrix,description,doublespace,% > > exampleblock > ,figure,footnotesize,huge,Huge,large,Large,LARGE,large,Large,letter,% > > lstlisting > ,matrix > ,multline > ,newtheorem > ,normalsize > ,onehalfspace,pmatrix,pspicture,quotation,quote,scriptsize,% > > singlespace > ,small > ,spacing > ,split > ,subequations > ,equation,table,theorem,tiny,titlepage,verse,vmatrix,Vmatrix,% > ,thebibliography,% > name,text,first,firstplural,plural,symbol,sort% > } } > > -- > Denis > > > From - Mon Sep 29 09:39:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr (smtp19.orange.fr [80.12.242.1]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8T7dOrL097811 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:39:29 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtp19.orange.fr (mwinf1903 [172.22.129.25]) by mwinf1905.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 99B025C14206 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 08:48:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1903.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8E05B1C000A3 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 08:48:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Fertel.home (unknown [92.129.31.143]) by mwinf1903.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 508F81C000A2 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 08:48:13 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080929064813330.508F81C000A2@mwinf1903.orange.fr Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jacques_Andr=E9?= To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Hetzel_on_gut?= Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-19--449442882 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Port=E9e_des_longueurs_dans_picture?= Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 08:48:12 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:39:29 +0200 (CEST) --Apple-Mail-19--449442882 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Je suis surpris par le comportement du programme minimum joint (dont=20=20 la sortie est : 10 pt, 20pt, 10pt). Dans un environnement picture je=20=20 modifie la valeur d'une longueur d=E9finie globalement en dehors de cet=20= =20 environnement. =C0 la fin de cet environnement, la longueur reprend sa=20= =20 valeur initiale. Normal ? Je pensais que les r=E8gles de port=E9e=20=20 jouaient... Comment faire alors pou conserver cette valeur ? -- Jacques ANDR=C9 --Apple-Mail-19--449442882 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=ecpic.tex Content-Type: application/octet-stream; x-mac-creator=54655873; x-unix-mode=0644; x-mac-type=54455854; name="ecpic.tex" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit \documentclass{article} \RequirePackage{picture} \RequirePackage{graphicx} \newlength{\LL} \begin{document} \setlength{\LL}{10pt}\the\LL \begin{picture}(10,10) \setlength{\LL}{20pt} \put(0,0){\the\LL} \end{picture} \the\LL \end{document} --Apple-Mail-19--449442882 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-19--449442882-- From - Mon Sep 29 09:47:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.5 required=5.0 tests=SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.200]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8T7lZHd000401 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:47:41 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14849E8AC2 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:47:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10913-02-3 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:47:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.204]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF0D9E835A for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:47:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from acces.univ-fcomte.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A336D3C28B6 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:47:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (pla25-1-82-225-17-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.17.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by acces.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 340A97C7B for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:47:34 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48E0880E.2090909@univ-fcomte.fr> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:47:26 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?P=E9tiard_Fran=E7ois?= Reply-To: liste Gut Organization: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Universit=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Port=E9e_des_longueurs_dans_pic?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ture?= References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at univ-fcomte.fr X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:47:41 +0200 (CEST) Le 29/09/2008 08:48, Jacques André a écrit : > Je suis surpris par le comportement du programme minimum joint (dont la > sortie est : 10 pt, 20pt, 10pt). Dans un environnement picture je > modifie la valeur d'une longueur définie globalement en dehors de cet > environnement. À la fin de cet environnement, la longueur reprend sa > valeur initiale. Normal ? Je pensais que les règles de portée > jouaient... Comment faire alors pou conserver cette valeur ? \global, ce qui donne : \global\setlength{\LL}{20pt} François Pétiard From - Mon Sep 29 09:56:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2f.orange.fr (smtp2f.orange.fr [80.12.242.151]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8T7uRcm003347 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:56:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2f07.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0636570000A7 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:56:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Fertel.home (unknown [92.129.31.143]) by mwinf2f07.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DA9987000096 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:56:26 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080929075626895.DA9987000096@mwinf2f07.orange.fr Message-Id: <9AC42E02-8DC1-4C06-B724-75D987720A36@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jacques_Andr=E9?= To: liste Gut In-Reply-To: <48E0880E.2090909@univ-fcomte.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_Port=E9e_des_longueurs_dans_picture?= Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:56:26 +0200 References: <48E0880E.2090909@univ-fcomte.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:56:38 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8T7uRcm003347 Le 29 sept. 2008 à 09:47, Pétiard François a écrit : > >> Comment faire alors pou conserver cette valeur ? > > \global, ce qui donne : > > \global\setlength{\LL}{20pt} Oups, merci ! Mais en fait c'est : \setlength{\global\LL}{20pt} -- Jacques ANDRÉ From - Mon Sep 29 10:04:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.5 required=5.0 tests=SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.200]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8T83pOL005863 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:03:56 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5319A9E8AE1 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:03:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 12129-08 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:03:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.204]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA729E87CA for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:03:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from acces.univ-fcomte.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43BD03C2868 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:03:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (pla25-1-82-225-17-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.17.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by acces.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E89D57C7B for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:03:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48E08BDD.4070004@univ-fcomte.fr> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:03:41 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?P=E9tiard_Fran=E7ois?= Reply-To: liste Gut Organization: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Universit=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Port=E9e_des_longueurs_dans_pic?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ture?= References: <48E0880E.2090909@univ-fcomte.fr> <9AC42E02-8DC1-4C06-B724-75D987720A36@orange.fr> In-Reply-To: <9AC42E02-8DC1-4C06-B724-75D987720A36@orange.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at univ-fcomte.fr X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:03:57 +0200 (CEST) Le 29/09/2008 09:56, Jacques André a écrit : > > Le 29 sept. 2008 à 09:47, Pétiard François a écrit : > >> > >>> Comment faire alors pou conserver cette valeur ? >> >> \global, ce qui donne : >> >> \global\setlength{\LL}{20pt} > > > > Oups, merci ! Mais en fait c'est : \setlength{\global\LL}{20pt} > ?? \global\setlength{\LL}{20pt} marche chez moi. François From - Mon Sep 29 10:56:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8T8uEUw022855 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:56:14 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from math.jussieu.fr (mail.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.55]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id m8T8uDsj093188 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:56:13 +0200 (CEST) X-Ids: 168 Received: from [192.168.0.124] (elzevir.fr [88.165.216.11]) (authenticated bits=0) by math.jussieu.fr (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m8T8uB8p066454 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:56:11 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48E0982B.50906@elzevir.fr> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:56:11 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Manuel_P=E9gouri=E9-Gonnard?= User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080724) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: liste Gut Subject: Re: [gut] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Port=E9e_des_longueurs_dans_pic?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ture?= References: <48E0880E.2090909@univ-fcomte.fr> <9AC42E02-8DC1-4C06-B724-75D987720A36@orange.fr> <48E08BDD.4070004@univ-fcomte.fr> In-Reply-To: <48E08BDD.4070004@univ-fcomte.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.0 OpenPGP: url=http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x50A89B42 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.93.3/8352/Mon Sep 29 05:25:01 2008 on shiva.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV version 0.94, clamav-milter version 0.94 on mail.math.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:56:14 +0200 (CEST) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0 (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.168]); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:56:13 +0200 (CEST) X-Miltered: at jchkmail.jussieu.fr with ID 48E0982D.004 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 48E0982D.004/134.157.13.55/mail.math.jussieu.fr/math.jussieu.fr/ X-j-chkmail-Score: MSGID : 48E0982D.004 on jchkmail.jussieu.fr : j-chkmail score : . : R=. U=. O=. B=0.028 -> S=0.028 X-j-chkmail-Status: Ham Pétiard François a écrit : >>> \global\setlength{\LL}{20pt} >> >> Oups, merci ! Mais en fait c'est : \setlength{\global\LL}{20pt} >> > ?? > > \global\setlength{\LL}{20pt} marche chez moi. > En fait, la blague est que \global\setlength marche avec le \setlenght de LaTeX, mais cesse de fonctionner quand on charge des extensions comme calc qui redéfinissent \setlenght. Donc vous n'avez sans doute pas testé avec le même préambule. Manuel. From - Mon Sep 29 10:59:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.5 required=5.0 tests=SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.200]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8T8wu38023954 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:59:01 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B759E8AEC for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:58:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17353-02 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:58:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.204]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 158F7109400C for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:58:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: from acces.univ-fcomte.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2D93C28C4 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:58:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (pla25-1-82-225-17-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.17.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by acces.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D8A7C7B for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:58:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48E098C6.5030906@univ-fcomte.fr> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:58:46 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?P=E9tiard_Fran=E7ois?= Reply-To: liste Gut Organization: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Universit=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Port=E9e_des_longueurs_dans_pic?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?ture?= References: <48E0880E.2090909@univ-fcomte.fr> <9AC42E02-8DC1-4C06-B724-75D987720A36@orange.fr> <48E08BDD.4070004@univ-fcomte.fr> <48E0982B.50906@elzevir.fr> In-Reply-To: <48E0982B.50906@elzevir.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at univ-fcomte.fr X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:59:01 +0200 (CEST) Le 29/09/2008 10:56, Manuel Pégourié-Gonnard a écrit : > Pétiard François a écrit : >>>> \global\setlength{\LL}{20pt} >>> Oups, merci ! Mais en fait c'est : \setlength{\global\LL}{20pt} >>> >> ?? >> >> \global\setlength{\LL}{20pt} marche chez moi. >> > En fait, la blague est que \global\setlength marche avec le \setlenght > de LaTeX, mais cesse de fonctionner quand on charge des extensions comme > calc qui redéfinissent \setlenght. Donc vous n'avez sans doute pas testé > avec le même préambule. > > Manuel. > Oui, c'est sûrement ça l'explication. Merci. François From - Mon Sep 29 14:57:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.5 required=5.0 tests=SUBJECT_ENCODED_TWICE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2e.orange.fr (smtp2e.orange.fr [80.12.242.112]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8TCuoi2097888 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:56:55 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2e13.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3E2BD70000AD for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:56:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Fertel.home (unknown [92.129.31.143]) by mwinf2e13.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F0798700008A for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:56:49 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080929125649985.F0798700008A@mwinf2e13.orange.fr Message-Id: <7E6B2AC3-C14E-4BAF-971A-BBC8ECCDAB5F@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jacques_Andr=E9?= To: liste Gut Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fwd:_[gut]_Journ=E9e_GUTenberg_2008_=3D>_URGENT_?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=28repas=29?= Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:56:49 +0200 References: <20080915191858.GH29367@phare.normalesup.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:56:55 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8TCuoi2097888 Rappel... IMPORTANT : pour l'organisation matérielle de la réunion (et notamment du repas) : il FAUT envoyer un mail à secrétariat secretariat@gutenberg.eu.org pour - soit confirmer votre intention de participer - soit annoncer votre intention de participer à la réunion De la part du secrétariat... Merci Jacques André Début du message réexpédié : > De : Arthur Reutenauer > Date : 15 septembre 2008 21:18:58 HAEC > À : Liste GUT > Objet : [gut] Journée GUTenberg 2008 et assembléegénérale de > l'association > Répondre à : Liste GUT > > > Bonjour, > > C'est avec grand plaisir que j'annonce, avec beaucoup de retard, la > tenue de la prochaine journée GUTenberg, le lundi 6 octobre au FIAP > Jean > Monnet. Le thème sera « TeX et XML », avec égalemnt des > présentations de > quelques nouveautés d'intérêt général pour les utilisateurs de TeX, en > particulier TeX Live 2008. Vous pouvez consultez le programme > complet et > les détails pratiques sur > > http://www.gutenberg.eu.org/manifestations/207-journee2008.html > > Ce sera également l'occasion de l'assemblée générale, à la suite de > laquelle aura lieu une discussion sur l'avenir de GUTenberg dont le > maintien dans l'état actuel est remis en question (ce qui remettrait > en > question aussi l'existence même de cette liste gut). > > En espérant vous voir nombreux malgré l'annonce tardive, et en > encourageant tout le monde à participer à la vie de l'association, > > Arthur, pour le CA de GUTenberg > From - Mon Sep 29 16:13:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_28, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr (smtp19.orange.fr [80.12.242.18]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8TECmUp024198 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:12:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1921.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 61FA81C0009D for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:12:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.47] (AMontsouris-151-1-35-222.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.123.144.222]) by mwinf1921.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 92E261C00090 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:12:47 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080929141247601.92E261C00090@mwinf1921.orange.fr Message-Id: <5C15A4CE-B06C-4E43-919E-4B9527182E26@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: liste Gut Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-18--422770076 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: pb avec multirow Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:12:45 +0200 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:12:53 +0200 (CEST) --Apple-Mail-18--422770076 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable D=E9but du message r=E9exp=E9di=E9 : > De : Ivan Lavall=E9e > Date : 29 septembre 2008 16:08:37 HAEC > =C0 : liste Gut > Objet : pb avec multirow > > Bon, pas besoin d efaire un dessin, tout le monde voit bien quel est=20= =20 > mon probl=E8me: > 1) Pourquoi 416 =E0 gauche de la ligne ? > 2) Pourquoi (mais c'est peut-=EAtre d=FB =E0 ce qui pr=E9c=E8de) ma boite= =20=20 > n'est pas centr=E9e sur les lignes ? > Ivan Ce que je tape \begin{tabular}{lll} \multirow{4}{16mm}{\shadowbox{mode math=E9matique }} & ${\displaystyle=20= =20 \int f^{-1}(x-x_a)\, dx$ & \verb|${\displaystyle \int f^{-1}(x-x_a)\, dx$| \\ &${\textstyle \int f^{-1}(x-x_a)\, dx$ }& \verb|${\textstyle \int=20=20 f^{-1}(x-x_a)\, dx}$| \\ &${\scriptstyle \int f^{-1}(x-x_a)\, dx}$ & \verb|${\scriptstyle \int=20=20 f^{-1}(x-x_a)\, dx}$ | \\ &${\scriptscriptstyle \int f^{-1}(x-x_a)\, dx}$ & \verb|$=20 {\scriptscriptstyle \int f^{-1}(x-x_a)\, dx}$ | \\ \end{tabular} Ce que j'obtiens ; --Apple-Mail-18--422770076 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary=Apple-Mail-19--422770074; type="text/html" --Apple-Mail-19--422770074 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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 Ce que j'obtiens ;


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version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp19.orange.fr (smtp19.orange.fr [80.12.242.18]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8TEDFb8024510 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:13:21 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf1921.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C1CEB1C00086 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:13:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.47] (AMontsouris-151-1-35-222.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.123.144.222]) by mwinf1921.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id EAAA91C00089 for ; Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:13:14 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080929141314961.EAAA91C00089@mwinf1921.orange.fr Message-Id: <4603ECA3-B910-4604-8CF0-99448577B3CA@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: liste Gut Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-20--422742530 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Fwd: pb avec multirow Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:13:13 +0200 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Greylist: 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From - Tue Sep 30 20:11:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from mail-gw1.york.ac.uk (mail-gw1.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.246]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8UIB1Zx081232 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:11:07 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from mail-gw7.york.ac.uk (mail-gw7.york.ac.uk [144.32.129.30]) by mail-gw1.york.ac.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m8UH7g4C008671 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:07:42 +0100 (BST) Received: from unix0.york.ac.uk ([144.32.196.246]) by mail-gw7.york.ac.uk with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1KkihK-0003KL-LU for gut@ens.fr; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:07:42 +0100 Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:07:42 +0100 (BST) From: Patrick Dupre To: Liste Gutenberg Subject: fleche avec lettre Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-1297389768-1222794462=:10473" X-York-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-York-MailScanner-From: pd520@york.ac.uk X-Greylist: Delayed for 01:03:15 by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:11:07 +0200 (CEST) This message is in MIME format. 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From - Tue Sep 30 20:30:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from mail-gw1.york.ac.uk (mail-gw1.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.246]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8UITiQi087585 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:29:49 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from mail-gw7.york.ac.uk (mail-gw7.york.ac.uk [144.32.129.30]) by mail-gw1.york.ac.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id m8UITdrN011773 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:29:39 +0100 (BST) Received: from unix0.york.ac.uk ([144.32.196.246]) by mail-gw7.york.ac.uk with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Kkjyc-0003fd-Vf for gut@ens.fr; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:29:38 +0100 Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:29:38 +0100 (BST) From: Patrick Dupre To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] fleche avec lettre In-Reply-To: <48E26D73.5080309@elzevir.fr> Message-ID: References: <48E26D73.5080309@elzevir.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-641078858-1222799378=:10473" X-York-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-York-MailScanner-From: pd520@york.ac.uk X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:29:49 +0200 (CEST) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---559023410-641078858-1222799378=:10473 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Tue, 30 Sep 2008, Manuel P=C3=A9gouri=C3=A9-Gonnard wrote: > Patrick Dupre a =C3=A9crit : >> Comment est-ce que je peux avoir une fleche (\rightarrow) surmontee >> d'un lettre ? >> > Est-ce que \stackrel{f}{\rightarow} fait l'affaire ? Sinon, il y a aussi > \xrightarrow{f}. > Oui, merci. --=20 --- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Patrick DUPR=C3=89 | | Department of Chemistry | | Phone: (44)-(0)-1904-434384 The University of York | | Fax: (44)-(0)-1904-432516 Heslington | | York YO10 5DD United Kingdom | | email: pd520@york.ac.uk =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ---559023410-641078858-1222799378=:10473-- From - Tue Sep 30 22:00:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2b.orange.fr (smtp2b.orange.fr [80.12.242.144]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8UJxsNW023597 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:59:59 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2b28.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 946BF7000092 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:59:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.5] (APuteaux-153-1-71-81.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.249.117.81]) by mwinf2b28.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 1A749700008A for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:59:53 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080930195953108.1A749700008A@mwinf2b28.orange.fr Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: liste Gut Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=Apple-Mail-173--315543349 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: pb avec verbatim Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 21:59:52 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:00:00 +0200 (CEST) --Apple-Mail-173--315543349 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=Cours-Essai.tex Content-Type: application/octet-stream; x-mac-hide-extension=yes; x-mac-type=54455854; x-mac-creator=54655873; x-unix-mode=0644; name="Cours-Essai.tex" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable % http://www.tuteurs.ens.fr/logiciels/latex/beamer.html \documentclass[hyperref=3D{pdfpagemode=3DFullScreen}]{beamer} \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \usepackage[applemac]{inputenc} \usepackage[frenchb]{babel} \usepackage{helvet} \usepackage{verbatim} \usepackage{graphicx} \usepackage{multicol} \usepackage{url} \usepackage{showexpl} \usepackage{lmodern} %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \usepackage{xcolor} % (mais il est d=8Ej=88 charg=8E par beamer) \usepackage{ifmtarg} \usepackage{fancyvrb} \usepackage{listings} \title{Cours } \author{Ivan LAVALL\'EE} \date{\today} \usetheme[hideothersubsections]{Hannover} \usecolortheme{seagull} \setbeamertemplate{footline}[frame number] \usebeamercolor{sidebar} %\usecolortheme{orchid} \setbeamertemplate{sidebar canvas left}[vertical shading][top=3Dsidebar.bg,= bottom=3Dwhite] \setbeamertemplate{navigation symbols}{} \setbeamercovered{transparent} \setbeamertemplate{blocks}[rounded][shadow=3Dtrue] \setbeamercolor{alerted text}{fg=3Dred} \setbeamercolor{block title}{fg=3Dblue} %\setbeamercolor{block title}{fg=3Dgreen} %\setbeamercolor{section in sidebar}{fg=3Dblue} %\setbeamercolor{section in sidebar}{fg=3Dgreen} \setbeamercolor{section in sidebar}{fg=3Dmagenta} \setbeamercolor{section in sidebar shaded}{fg=3Dblack!40!bg} \setbeamercolor{subsection in sidebar}{fg=3Dblue} \setbeamercolor{subsection in sidebar shaded}{fg=3Dblack!30!bg} \setbeamerfont{alerted text}{series=3D} \setbeamerfont{title}{series=3D\bfseries} \setbeamerfont{frametitle}{series=3D\bfseries} \begin{document} \DeclareGraphicsExtensions{.pdf, .jpg, .tif} \maketitle %xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxx= xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx % N= ouvelle diapo %xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx= xxxxxxxxxxxxx \begin{frame} \frametitle{Exemple de liste pas simple} \begin{block}{listes num=8Erot=8Ees } \pause \begin{verbatim} \begin{enumerate} \item liste n=A1 1 ; \begin{enumerate} \item liste n=A1 2 ; \item ... \begin{enumerate} \item liste n=A1 3 ; \item ... \end{enumerate} \item liste n=A12 encore \end{enumerate} \item liste n=A1 1 toujours \end{enumerate} \end{verbatim} \end{block} \end{frame} %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % = = % % = Fin = % % = = % %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX \end{document} --Apple-Mail-173--315543349 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Je me fais jeter par ce qui suit, quelqu'un a-t-il une id=E9e de la=20=20 b=E9tise que je ne vois pas ? 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X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp23.orange.fr (smtp23.orange.fr [193.252.22.30]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8UL6HAt043712 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:06:17 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2331.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 32EAB1C00091 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:06:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.51] (APoitiers-155-1-169-250.w83-193.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.193.136.250]) by mwinf2331.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0614D1C0008F for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:06:16 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080930210617251.0614D1C0008F@mwinf2331.orange.fr Message-ID: <48E294C8.2090705@wanadoo.fr> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:06:16 +0200 From: pierre seigneur User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (X11/20080925) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] pb avec verbatim References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:06:17 +0200 (CEST) Ivan Lavallée a écrit : > > Je me fais jeter par ce qui suit, quelqu'un a-t-il une idée de la > bétise que je ne vois pas ? > Ivan > Chez moi (codage UTF 8) LaTeX n'aime pas beaucoup le caractère «°» . Peut-être qu'en le supprimant ... Pierre From - Tue Sep 30 23:27:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2a.orange.fr (smtp2a.orange.fr [80.12.242.138]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8ULR5im048785 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:27:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2a03.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C391B7000094 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:27:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.5] (APuteaux-153-1-71-81.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.249.117.81]) by mwinf2a03.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9C3D2700008E for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:27:04 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080930212704640.9C3D2700008E@mwinf2a03.orange.fr Message-Id: <276A9F44-2872-448F-A69F-B0BF1FD134A2@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: <48E294C8.2090705@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: [gut] pb avec verbatim Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:27:03 +0200 References: <48E294C8.2090705@wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:27:10 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8ULR5im048785 Ben non c'est pas ça, je l'ai sur d'autres diapos et pas de pb, c'est "verbatim" qui pose problème, si on le supprime, la compilation est bonne, c'est là que je ne comprends pas. Ivan Le 30 sept. 08 à 23:06, pierre seigneur a écrit : > > Ivan Lavallée a écrit : >> >> Je me fais jeter par ce qui suit, quelqu'un a-t-il une idée de la >> bétise que je ne vois pas ? >> Ivan >> > Chez moi (codage UTF 8) LaTeX n'aime pas beaucoup le caractère «°» . > Peut-être qu'en le supprimant ... > > Pierre > > From - Tue Sep 30 23:30:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp28.orange.fr (smtp28.orange.fr [80.12.242.100]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8ULUdJA049835 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:30:44 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2814.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4A3E370000C2 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:30:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from drums.chezmoi.fr (ALille-156-1-116-187.w92-131.abo.wanadoo.fr [92.131.43.187]) by mwinf2814.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 242F570000C0 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:30:39 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080930213039148.242F570000C0@mwinf2814.orange.fr Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:32:58 +0200 From: Denis =?UTF-8?B?Qml0b3V6w6k=?= To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] pb avec verbatim Message-ID: <20080930233258.67207366@drums.chezmoi.fr> In-Reply-To: <276A9F44-2872-448F-A69F-B0BF1FD134A2@orange.fr> References: <48E294C8.2090705@wanadoo.fr> <276A9F44-2872-448F-A69F-B0BF1FD134A2@orange.fr> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.9; i586-mandriva-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:30:44 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8ULUdJA049835 Le mardi 30/09/08 à 23h27, Ivan Lavallée a écrit : > Ben non c'est pas ça, je l'ai sur d'autres diapos et pas de pb, > c'est "verbatim" qui pose problème, si on le supprime, la compilation > est bonne, c'est là que je ne comprends pas. As-tu bien mis l'option « fragile » au frame ? -- Denis From - Tue Sep 30 23:32:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2b.orange.fr (smtp2b.orange.fr [80.12.242.145]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8ULVsMS050138 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:32:00 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2b08.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7A3F37000096 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:31:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Fertel.home (unknown [92.129.31.143]) by mwinf2b08.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 577E47000093 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:31:54 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080930213154358.577E47000093@mwinf2b08.orange.fr Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jacques_Andr=E9?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: <276A9F44-2872-448F-A69F-B0BF1FD134A2@orange.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: [gut] pb avec verbatim Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:31:53 +0200 References: <48E294C8.2090705@wanadoo.fr> <276A9F44-2872-448F-A69F-B0BF1FD134A2@orange.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:32:00 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8ULVsMS050138 Le 30 sept. 2008 à 23:27, Ivan Lavallée a écrit : > > Ben non c'est pas ça, je l'ai sur d'autres diapos et pas de pb, > c'est "verbatim" qui pose problème, si on le supprime, la > compilation est bonne, c'est là que je ne comprends pas. et si vous supprimez \usepackage{verbatim} à priori inutile dans cet exemple ? -- Jacques ANDRÉ From - Tue Sep 30 23:39:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 Received: from smtp2a.orange.fr (smtp2a.orange.fr [80.12.242.138]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id m8ULdDui051607 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:39:18 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2a03.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7A892700009A for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:39:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.5] (APuteaux-153-1-71-81.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.249.117.81]) by mwinf2a03.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 520437000097 for ; Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:39:13 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20080930213913336.520437000097@mwinf2a03.orange.fr Message-Id: <246537F8-0FA4-4076-932B-96EFA5C025C0@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: <20080930233258.67207366@drums.chezmoi.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: [gut] pb avec verbatim Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:39:12 +0200 References: <48E294C8.2090705@wanadoo.fr> <276A9F44-2872-448F-A69F-B0BF1FD134A2@orange.fr> <20080930233258.67207366@drums.chezmoi.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:39:18 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id m8ULdDui051607 Ben ouais t'a raison, c'est ça, mais que signifie exactement ce [fragile] pourquoi y-a-t-il cette option ? Merci Ivan Le 30 sept. 08 à 23:32, Denis Bitouzé a écrit : > > Le mardi 30/09/08 à 23h27, > Ivan Lavallée a écrit : > >> Ben non c'est pas ça, je l'ai sur d'autres diapos et pas de pb, >> c'est "verbatim" qui pose problème, si on le supprime, la compilation >> est bonne, c'est là que je ne comprends pas. > > As-tu bien mis l'option « fragile » au frame ? > -- > Denis > > >

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Date : <= /b>29 septembre 2008 16:08:37 HAEC
=C0 : liste Gut <gut@ens.fr>
<= b>Objet : pb avec multirow

Bon, pas besoin d efaire un dessin, tout le = monde voit bien quel est mon probl=E8me:
1) Pourquoi 416 =E0 gauche de l= a ligne ?
2) Pourquoi (mais c'est peut-=EAtre d=FB =E0 ce qui pr=E9c=E8d= e) ma boite n'est pas centr=E9e sur les lignes ?
Ivan
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