From - Mon Mar 1 14:35:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from mail-gw1.york.ac.uk (mail-gw1.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.246]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o21DYpuK075377 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 14:34:53 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from mail-gw7.york.ac.uk (mail-gw7.york.ac.uk [144.32.129.30]) by mail-gw1.york.ac.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o21CUqjc000761 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 12:30:52 GMT Received: from unix0.york.ac.uk ([144.32.196.246]) by mail-gw7.york.ac.uk with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Nm4lw-0003JC-Dd for gut@ens.fr; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 12:30:52 +0000 Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 12:30:52 +0000 (GMT) From: Patrick Dupre To: Liste Gutenberg Subject: .cab Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-1483920592-1267446652=:23668" X-York-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-York-MailScanner-From: pd520@york.ac.uk X-Greylist: Delayed for 01:03:57 by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 01 Mar 2010 14:34:53 +0100 (CET) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---559023410-1483920592-1267446652=:23668 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Bonjour, est-ce que vous pourriez me dire comment installer un fichier .cab ? Merci. --=20 --- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Patrick DUPR=C3=89 | | Department of Chemistry | | Phone: (44)-(0)-1904-434384 The University of York | | Fax: (44)-(0)-1904-432516 Heslington | | York YO10 5DD United Kingdom | | email: pd520@york.ac.uk =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ---559023410-1483920592-1267446652=:23668-- From - Mon Mar 1 15:55:39 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp22.services.sfr.fr (smtp22.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.13]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o21EtBTn019960 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:55:12 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2214.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4EC237000098 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:55:29 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.20] (unknown [79.84.66.91]) by msfrf2214.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 46B167000099 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:55:28 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20100301145528289.46B167000099@msfrf2214.sfr.fr Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: liste Gut Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Nouvelles classes Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:55:10 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 01 Mar 2010 15:55:12 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id o21EtBTn019960 Quelqu'un(e) d'entre vous a-t-il utilisé les nouvelles classes extarticle, extbook,... ? J'ai quelques soucis avec Ivan "Le degré de la lenteur est directement proportionnel à l'intensité de la mémoire; le degré de la vitesse est directement proportionnel à l'intensité de l'oubli" Milan Kundera ______________________ Pr. I. Lavallée Ingénieur CNAM-IIE Docteur Ingénieur Docteur d'état es Sciences From - Mon Mar 1 16:06:17 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp.insa-lyon.fr (criges14.insa-lyon.fr [134.214.76.242]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o21F5kCu025998 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:05:46 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.insa-lyon.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B95D8F121A for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:05:46 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: SMTP at INSA-LYON Received: from smtp.insa-lyon.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (criges14.insa-lyon.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Task+D0mY-nc for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:05:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from [134.214.73.111] (pc302-19.insa-lyon.fr [134.214.73.111]) by smtp.insa-lyon.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18419F1201 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:05:42 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B8BD7C5.5000405@insa-lyon.fr> Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:05:41 +0100 From: Gilbert Travin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Nouvelles classes References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------000906080706080607010205" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:05:47 +0100 (CET) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000906080706080607010205 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ivan Lavallée a écrit : > Quelqu'un(e) d'entre vous a-t-il utilisé les nouvelles classes > extarticle, extbook,... ? J'ai quelques soucis avec > Ivan > > "Le degré de la lenteur est directement > proportionnel à l'intensité de la mémoire; le degré > de la vitesse est directement proportionnel à > l'intensité de l'oubli" Milan Kundera > ______________________ > Pr. I. Lavallée > Ingénieur CNAM-IIE > Docteur Ingénieur > Docteur d'état es Sciences > > > > > OUI j'utilise extarticle quand je veux des gros caractères ! Ca marche bien, mais il faut bien penser à déclarer une taille compatible avec la classe ! Extrait de la documentation de "extsizes" : \documentclass[9pt]{extarticle} The sizes available are 8pt, 9pt, 10pt, 11pt, 12pt, 14pt, 17pt, and 20pt. There should be no need to change any other part of your document. Par exemple \documentclass[15pt]{extarticle} ne donnera pas le résultat voulu ! G.T. --------------000906080706080607010205 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="gilbert_travin.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="gilbert_travin.vcf" begin:vcard fn:Gilbert TRAVIN n:TRAVIN;Gilbert org;quoted-printable:INSA-LYON;Laboratoire de m=C3=A9canique des fluides et acoustique adr;quoted-printable:20 avenue Einstein;;B=C3=A2timent Jacquard;Villeurbanne;;69621;France email;internet:gilbert.travin@insa-lyon.fr title;quoted-printable:Ma=C3=AEtre de conf=C3=A9rences tel;work:04 72 43 81 57 tel;cell:06 03 33 90 03 x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard --------------000906080706080607010205-- From - Mon Mar 1 16:11:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from mail-gw0.york.ac.uk (mail-gw0.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.245]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o21FBJbW029223 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:11:21 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from mail-gw6.york.ac.uk (mail-gw6.york.ac.uk [144.32.129.26]) by mail-gw0.york.ac.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o21E8nfe002968 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 14:08:49 GMT Received: from unix0.york.ac.uk ([144.32.196.246]) by mail-gw6.york.ac.uk with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Nm6Ij-0001ar-DN for gut@ens.fr; Mon, 01 Mar 2010 14:08:49 +0000 Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 14:08:49 +0000 (GMT) From: Patrick Dupre To: Liste Gutenberg Subject: Re: [gut] .cab In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-1297389768-1267452529=:23668" X-York-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-York-MailScanner-From: pd520@york.ac.uk X-Greylist: Delayed for 01:02:25 by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:11:21 +0100 (CET) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---559023410-1297389768-1267452529=:23668 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE J'ai trouve cabextract. > Bonjour, > > est-ce que vous pourriez me dire comment installer un fichier .cab ? > > Merci. > > --=20 --- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Patrick DUPR=C3=89 | | Department of Chemistry | | Phone: (44)-(0)-1904-434384 The University of York | | Fax: (44)-(0)-1904-432516 Heslington | | York YO10 5DD United Kingdom | | email: pd520@york.ac.uk =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ---559023410-1297389768-1267452529=:23668-- From - Mon Mar 1 16:12:17 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr (smtp23.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.21]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o21FBkTo029470 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:11:47 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2311.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D994D70000A3 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:11:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.20] (91.66.84-79.rev.gaoland.net [79.84.66.91]) by msfrf2311.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id AD77470000A1 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:11:45 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20100301151145710.AD77470000A1@msfrf2311.sfr.fr Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: <4B8BD7C5.5000405@insa-lyon.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: [gut] Nouvelles classes Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:11:45 +0100 References: <4B8BD7C5.5000405@insa-lyon.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:11:47 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id o21FBkTo029470 Merci, j'utilisai 13pt et j'avais des trucs bizarres... Ivan "Le degré de la lenteur est directement proportionnel à l'intensité de la mémoire; le degré de la vitesse est directement proportionnel à l'intensité de l'oubli" Milan Kundera ______________________ Pr. I. Lavallée Ingénieur CNAM-IIE Docteur Ingénieur Docteur d'état es Sciences Le 1 mars 10 à 16:05, Gilbert Travin a écrit : > Ivan Lavallée a écrit : >> Quelqu'un(e) d'entre vous a-t-il utilisé les nouvelles classes >> extarticle, extbook,... ? J'ai quelques soucis avec >> Ivan >> >> "Le degré de la lenteur est directement >> proportionnel à l'intensité de la mémoire; le degré >> de la vitesse est directement proportionnel à >> l'intensité de l'oubli" Milan Kundera >> ______________________ >> Pr. I. Lavallée >> Ingénieur CNAM-IIE >> Docteur Ingénieur >> Docteur d'état es Sciences >> >> >> >> >> > OUI j'utilise extarticle quand je veux des gros caractères ! > > Ca marche bien, mais il faut bien penser à déclarer une taille > compatible avec la classe ! > Extrait de la documentation de "extsizes" : > \documentclass[9pt]{extarticle} > The sizes available are 8pt, 9pt, 10pt, 11pt, 12pt, 14pt, 17pt, and > 20pt. > There should be no need to change any other part of your document. > > Par exemple \documentclass[15pt]{extarticle} ne donnera pas le > résultat voulu ! > > G.T. > From - Mon Mar 1 16:42:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp6-g21.free.fr (smtp6-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.6]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o21FgETZ047067 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:42:16 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtp6-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7476E080C9 for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:42:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (vig38-2-82-225-223-57.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.223.57]) by smtp6-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845AFE0802C for ; Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:42:10 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 16:42:03 +0100 From: Thierry Bouche Organization: Nonsense Inc. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <15510348975.20100301164203@ujf-grenoble.fr> To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] test pour savoir s'il existe glyphe ? In-Reply-To: <109F5FF0-076A-4D34-B1F0-FA095195A102@orange.fr> References: <109F5FF0-076A-4D34-B1F0-FA095195A102@orange.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:42:17 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id o21FgETZ047067 Le jeudi 25 février 2010 à 09:43:54, Jacques écrivit : JA> Je voudrais savoir si un code donné de la fonte courante correspond à JA> un caractère défini : JA> J'y arrive en testant que la chasse du caractère n'est pas nulle, JA> mais... je suis à la merci d'une fonte avec des caractères à chasse JA> nulle. eh oui, comme toutes les T1 et le cwm... Disons que si tu raffines au point de tester sur wd, dp et ht, tu n'omettras que des caractères qui ne doivent pas imprimer grand chose de toute façon... JA> Le problème est, je pense, que TeX ne sait JA> probablement pas chercher si la procédure correspondante dans le JA> fichier .pfb est "notdef" (en postscript)... tu penses bon. C'est une chose qu'on peut espérer voir dans luatex, mais pas dans un tex classique. Accessoirement, le problème est plus vache, car la notion de caractère de tex n'est pas du tout celle de postscript, ou pfb, ou ... Depuis tex, tu ne peux tester que le TFM puisque tex ne voit que ça. Or le TFM peut être une version recodée, une fonte virtuelle... Ensuite tex est très mauvais pour ce que tu veux faire, puisque la seule erreur qu'il produise dans le cas où tu sélectionnes un caractère inexistant dans un tfm, c'est d'écrire un message abscons dans le .log et c'est tout. 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Thierry From - Tue Mar 2 18:12:54 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (smtp20.orange.fr [80.12.242.26]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o22HCQO8059090 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 18:12:27 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2006.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 754632000960 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 18:12:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2006.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 62FCD200061B for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 18:12:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from Fertel.home (ARennes-353-1-24-240.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr [92.135.239.240]) by mwinf2006.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D130E2000A15 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 18:12:24 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20100302171224856.D130E2000A15@mwinf2006.orange.fr Message-Id: <097F2158-055F-4EE6-AE71-34EF793499C0@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jacques_Andr=E9?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: <15510348975.20100301164203@ujf-grenoble.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: [gut] test pour savoir s'il existe glyphe ? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 18:12:22 +0100 References: <109F5FF0-076A-4D34-B1F0-FA095195A102@orange.fr> <15510348975.20100301164203@ujf-grenoble.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 02 Mar 2010 18:12:27 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id o22HCQO8059090 Le 1 mars 2010 à 16:42, Thierry Bouche a écrit : > > Le jeudi 25 février 2010 à 09:43:54, Jacques écrivit : > > JA> Je voudrais savoir si un code donné de la fonte courante > correspond à > JA> un caractère défini : > > JA> J'y arrive en testant que la chasse du caractère n'est pas nulle, > JA> mais... je suis à la merci d'une fonte avec des caractères à > chasse > JA> nulle. > > eh oui, comme toutes les T1 et le cwm... > > Disons que si tu raffines au point de tester sur wd, dp et ht, tu > n'omettras que des caractères qui ne doivent pas imprimer grand chose > de toute façon... > C'est bien l'hypothèse que je faisais... > > JA> Le problème est, je pense, que TeX ne sait > JA> probablement pas chercher si la procédure correspondante dans le > JA> fichier .pfb est "notdef" (en postscript)... > > tu penses bon. C'est une chose qu'on peut espérer voir dans luatex, > mais pas dans un tex classique. > Merci de me rassurer... Tu pourrais donc imaginer un truc en deux > > passes : tu sélectionnes une fonte, tu imprimes tous les caractères, > tu greppes le log sur 'Missing character: There is no . in font' et > ensuite se débrouiller avec la convention utilisée par tex pour > représenter ces caractères... Ouais, je vois... Autant garder mon hypothèse de chasse nulle ! Ou de faire la manip que je veux faire en utilisant l'afm dont je dispose encore. merci ! -- Jacques ANDRÉ From - Tue Mar 2 21:14:44 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from mail-ew0-f215.google.com (mail-ew0-f215.google.com [209.85.219.215]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o22KEGq0029980 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:14:17 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: by ewy7 with SMTP id 7so466102ewy.9 for ; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 12:14:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=9Yd/fJ4JMmMaFz0nZXH/NgQW6MXUNuMLnCdZAMIgVqI=; b=vRg05s/6tqnh0nBjUy+/0bv9j2yBbUC2n7/fz4YXlI+vC+5FHlxolewN3CAg1OY9Yh Tla41A1BJXbqJty3p7TGWvmKFEC66kVpIS4TqKMVjK+UV8gr494SGubhdJ3SK6zhlCtH AvIkBH8Neqs9ZufBbl5YDUnMmfle1S7Fc7CKg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=WDxhtapicEbmBLzdWqc14ok/TjGXCObd4QQjShuTyEh5smSniVR7lEU+HhxFDVLHDq A1rM/7onlIfNqxtVx7a+Fg1dYnSB5wGSzbVA4Berm3z1gc9hTyZFMwcEcIPoUdjzgrQk mt8w3pQBMFZs+YHiGyc1ciESx3rVQgMZkL7v4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.157.212 with SMTP id o62mr1889977wek.41.1267560855550; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 12:14:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <109F5FF0-076A-4D34-B1F0-FA095195A102@orange.fr> References: <109F5FF0-076A-4D34-B1F0-FA095195A102@orange.fr> Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:14:15 +0100 Message-ID: <1e9cadf51003021214w7505501bm24e4a0b645cf1a1f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gut] test pour savoir s'il existe glyphe ? From: Laporte Vincent To: gut@ens.fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 02 Mar 2010 21:14:17 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id o22KEGq0029980 Le 25 février 2010 09:43, Jacques André a écrit : > Je voudrais savoir si un code donné  de la fonte courante correspond à un > caractère défini : > > j'aimerais disposer d'une macro, par exemple \notdef à 1 param telle que > > après \fontfamily{cmr}\selectfont ... > > \notdef{65} réponde faux car il y a  un glyphe associé au code 65 (A) > > après \fontencoding{U}\fontfamily{futs}\selectfont... (fonte > Fourier-Ornament) > > \notdef{65} réponde faux car il y a  un glyphe associé au code 65 (le sens > interdit \noway) > > \notdef{67} réponde vrai car il n'y a pas de glyphe associé au code 67 (si > on "imprime" \char67 ,  il n'y a rien) Bonjour, La primitive \iffontchar, il me semble, permet de répondre à la question. Par exemple : \newcommand*{\notdef}[1]{\iffontchar\font#1 0\else1\fi} /Chez moi ça marche…/, avec pdfTeX version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (TeX Live 2009) ou XeTeX version 3.1415926-2.2-0.9995.2 (TeX Live 2009) Cordialement, -- Vincent. From - Tue Mar 2 21:49:06 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp2a.orange.fr (smtp2a.orange.fr [80.12.242.138]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o22Kmf35040261 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:48:43 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2a02.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A450A80002F1 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:48:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2a02.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 97D3680001E6 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:48:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from Fertel.home (ARennes-353-1-24-240.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr [92.135.239.240]) by mwinf2a02.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6A37980002F1 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:48:41 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20100302204841435.6A37980002F1@mwinf2a02.orange.fr Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jacques_Andr=E9?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: <1e9cadf51003021214w7505501bm24e4a0b645cf1a1f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: [gut] test pour savoir s'il existe glyphe ? Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:48:41 +0100 References: <109F5FF0-076A-4D34-B1F0-FA095195A102@orange.fr> <1e9cadf51003021214w7505501bm24e4a0b645cf1a1f@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 02 Mar 2010 21:48:43 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id o22Kmf35040261 Le 2 mars 2010 à 21:14, Laporte Vincent a écrit : > > > La primitive \iffontchar, il me semble, permet de répondre à la > question. Par exemple : > \newcommand*{\notdef}[1]{\iffontchar\font#1 0\else1\fi} De fait, j'ai testé avec les ornements de Fourier, et ça a l'air de marcher. Mon test est le suivant, en donnant donc à X diverses valeurs : \documentclass{article} \begin{document} {\fontencoding{U}\fontfamily{futs}\selectfont \iffontchar\font`X N\else M\fi} \end{document} Je suppose que Tralic jette un œil sur la tfm ? Merci -- Jacques ANDRÉ From - Tue Mar 2 21:52:37 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp6-g21.free.fr (smtp6-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.6]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o22KqClS041243 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:52:14 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtp6-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BDA0E080EF for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:52:10 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (vig38-2-82-225-223-57.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.223.57]) by smtp6-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E73E08114 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:52:08 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:51:59 +0100 From: Thierry Bouche Organization: Nonsense Inc. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1034720534.20100302215159@ujf-grenoble.fr> To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] test pour savoir s'il existe glyphe ? In-Reply-To: References: <109F5FF0-076A-4D34-B1F0-FA095195A102@orange.fr> <1e9cadf51003021214w7505501bm24e4a0b645cf1a1f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 02 Mar 2010 21:52:14 +0100 (CET) JA> Je suppose que Tralic jette un œil sur la tfm ? tralics ? tu rigoles ?! From - Tue Mar 2 21:55:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp6-g21.free.fr (smtp6-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.6]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o22KtEjM042142 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:55:16 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtp6-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 485EEE080A5 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:55:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.10] (vig38-2-82-225-223-57.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.223.57]) by smtp6-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58A61E0801D for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:55:10 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:55:01 +0100 From: Thierry Bouche Organization: Nonsense Inc. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1912322246.20100302215501@ujf-grenoble.fr> To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] test pour savoir s'il existe glyphe ? In-Reply-To: <1e9cadf51003021214w7505501bm24e4a0b645cf1a1f@mail.gmail.com> References: <109F5FF0-076A-4D34-B1F0-FA095195A102@orange.fr> <1e9cadf51003021214w7505501bm24e4a0b645cf1a1f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 02 Mar 2010 21:55:17 +0100 (CET) LV> La primitive \iffontchar, damned, j'ai commencé à jouer avec certaines nouvelles primitives de pdftex, mais pas celle-ci, faut que je me remette à jour ! Merci pour le « pointeur » ! Th. From - Tue Mar 2 22:05:10 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp28.orange.fr (smtp28.orange.fr [80.12.242.100]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o22L4j8G045089 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 22:04:47 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2808.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9D5C470007E4 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 22:04:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2808.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 909B270005B1 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 22:04:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from Fertel.home (ARennes-353-1-24-240.w92-135.abo.wanadoo.fr [92.135.239.240]) by mwinf2808.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 620D870007E4 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 22:04:45 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20100302210445401.620D870007E4@mwinf2808.orange.fr Message-Id: <21666295-9F9F-42E1-B7EE-243C32383EDE@orange.fr> From: =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?Jacques_Andr=E9?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: <1034720534.20100302215159@ujf-grenoble.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: [gut] test pour savoir s'il existe glyphe ? X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 22:04:44 +0100 References: <109F5FF0-076A-4D34-B1F0-FA095195A102@orange.fr> <1e9cadf51003021214w7505501bm24e4a0b645cf1a1f@mail.gmail.com> <1034720534.20100302215159@ujf-grenoble.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 02 Mar 2010 22:04:47 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id o22L4j8G045089 Le 2 mars 2010 à 21:51, Thierry Bouche a écrit : > > > JA> Je suppose que Tralic jette un œil sur la tfm ? > > tralics ? tu rigoles ?! > > Ma fourche a langué... Je sortais de ce site : http://www-sop.inria.fr/apics/tralics/doc-i.html#cmd-ifxxx -- Jacques ANDRÉ From - Thu Mar 4 16:25:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp21.orange.fr (smtp21.orange.fr [80.12.242.47]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o24FP0fA069608 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:25:02 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2109.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8088A1C001EA for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:25:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2109.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 70B131C0062D for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:25:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from hypatie.localnet (ALille-258-1-7-46.w86-208.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.208.98.46]) by mwinf2109.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3F8511C001EA for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:25:00 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20100304152500260.3F8511C001EA@mwinf2109.orange.fr X-ME-User-Auth: yvon.henel@orange.fr From: yvon henel To: gut@ens.fr Subject: La lettre GUTenberg =?iso-8859-1?q?n=B0_36_en?= pdf Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:24:58 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (Linux/2.6.31.12-0.1-default; KDE/4.3.5; x86_64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1301060.YjKc0uqFmB"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201003041625.05453.yvon.henel@orange.fr> X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:25:02 +0100 (CET) --nextPart1301060.YjKc0uqFmB Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable bonjour =E0 toutes et tous La version pdf de la lettre 36 est d=E9sormais disponible sur le=20 =ABnouveau=BB site de GUTenberg =E0 l'adresse http://dedibox.gutenberg.eu.org/ Voici le lien direct : http://dedibox.gutenberg.eu.org/spip.php?article63 Elle y a rejoint les lettres 33 =E0 35. La migration se poursuit... Puisse cette annonce remplir d'aise quelques lecteurs de cette liste=20 :-) --=20 Yvon Henel pour le CA de GUTenberg --nextPart1301060.YjKc0uqFmB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) iJwEAAECAAYFAkuP0NEACgkQV1NCGDb2ZoTU+QP/T33DjQl0zk6Z+mrNYOlWRvsS NACaAgKTY2joSM8EEmRNvurtejjH4ZqIc6NzgS+LD+U2vkMfrepR8tQzEcEQ5KFO RtKtDy6Wq4rmPzw7dmZgk9gYukk8MtvpM9wGsUqY7JGU1Dbd/p0tmJzKdgFJUCC5 lOJQheBkI3f+j9AXugM= =W4UO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1301060.YjKc0uqFmB-- From - Fri Mar 5 09:04:41 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o25848Gx006043 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:04:10 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D0ED94017E for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:04:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (men13-4-82-240-63-63.fbx.proxad.net [82.240.63.63]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FCBC9400DB for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:04:04 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_La_lettre_GUTenberg_n=B0_36_en_pdf?= From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pierre_Albar=E8de?= In-Reply-To: <201003041625.05453.yvon.henel@orange.fr> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:04:09 +0100 Message-Id: References: <201003041625.05453.yvon.henel@orange.fr> To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 09:04:10 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id o25848Gx006043 Bonjour, > Puisse cette annonce remplir d'aise quelques lecteurs de cette liste Merci ! Pierre Albarède From - Fri Mar 5 10:39:56 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from asmtpout030.mac.com (asmtpout030.mac.com [17.148.16.105]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o259dU49049646 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:39:32 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Received: from [10.1.16.81] ([118.142.19.2]) by asmtp030.mac.com (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-8.01 (built Dec 16 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPSA id <0KYS0069DYTLYX80@asmtp030.mac.com> for gut@ens.fr; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 01:39:26 -0800 (PST) X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=5.0.0-0908210000 definitions=main-1003050024 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_La_lettre_GUTenberg_n=B0_36_en_pdf?= From: Michel Bovani In-reply-to: <201003041625.05453.yvon.henel@orange.fr> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:39:20 +0800 Message-id: References: <201003041625.05453.yvon.henel@orange.fr> To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 10:39:32 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id o259dU49049646 Le 4 mars 2010 à 23:24, yvon henel a écrit : > bonjour à toutes et tous > > La version pdf de la lettre 36 est désormais disponible sur le > «nouveau» site de GUTenberg à l'adresse > http://dedibox.gutenberg.eu.org/ > > Voici le lien direct : > http://dedibox.gutenberg.eu.org/spip.php?article63 > > Elle y a rejoint les lettres 33 à 35. > La migration se poursuit... > > Puisse cette annonce remplir d'aise quelques lecteurs de cette liste > :-) Oui, mais une question quand même : pourquoi (et avec insistance) P.D.F. alors que l'on a par ailleurs CA, FAQ, DVD ? > > -- > Yvon Henel > pour le CA de GUTenberg -- Michel Bovani From - Fri Mar 5 10:49:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.2 required=5.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr (smtp2-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.2]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o259mvCC054084 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:48:59 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A7A94B017D for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:48:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from [88.165.161.195] (mal59-2-88-165-161-195.fbx.proxad.net [88.165.161.195]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8D204B019A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:48:52 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B90D382.9070508@ac-lille.fr> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 10:48:50 +0100 From: Cauwet Christophe User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Liste Gut Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=E9p=E9ter_le_contenu_d=27une_cellule?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 10:48:59 +0100 (CET) Bonjour Existe-t-il un moyen de répéter rapidement le contenu d'une cellule sur une ligne pour éviter de taper ceci : \hline ligne & contenu & contenu & contenu & contenu & contenu & contenu & contenu & contenu & contenu & contenu & contenu & contenu & contenu & contenu & contenu & contenu \\ D'avance merci Christophe From - Fri Mar 5 11:25:56 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o25AMAGi071518 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:22:12 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FD2594014B for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:22:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (men13-4-82-240-63-63.fbx.proxad.net [82.240.63.63]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1545B9401BE for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:22:05 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_R=E9p=E9ter_le_contenu_d'une_cellule?= From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pierre_Albar=E8de?= In-Reply-To: <4B90D382.9070508@ac-lille.fr> Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:22:10 +0100 Message-Id: <2B097D3C-B565-4AF5-9443-03A174B8FED2@free.fr> References: <4B90D382.9070508@ac-lille.fr> To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:22:13 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id o25AMAGi071518 Bonjour, > Existe-t-il un moyen de répéter rapidement le contenu d'une cellule sur une ligne pour éviter de taper ceci : > > \hline ligne & contenu & contenu & contenu & contenu & contenu & contenu & contenu & contenu & contenu & contenu & contenu & contenu & contenu & contenu & contenu & contenu \\ J'essaierais avec \newcommand ou \savebox etc. pour éviter de répéter contenu. Par contre, je ne vois pas comment éviter de répéter &. Comme la répétition risque d'être aussi désagréable pour le lecteur que pour le scribe, n'auriez vous pas intérêt à trouver une présentation plus synthétique ? Pierre Albarède From - Fri Mar 5 11:26:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp02.univ-lille1.fr (smtp02.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.20]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o25AMgfS071868 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:22:43 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtps1.univ-lille1.fr (smtps1.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.52]) by smtp02.univ-lille1.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o25AMelU026764 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:22:40 +0100 Received: from [134.206.192.70] (pcclerse70.univ-lille1.fr [134.206.192.70]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtps1.univ-lille1.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id o25AMeMr006712 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:22:40 +0100 Message-ID: <4B90DB7B.1030803@orange.fr> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:22:51 +0100 From: Yvon Henel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; fr; rv:1.9.1.7) Gecko/20100111 Thunderbird/3.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] La lettre GUTenberg =?ISO-8859-1?Q?n=B0_36_en_pd?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?f?= References: <201003041625.05453.yvon.henel@orange.fr> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MailScanner-ID: o25AMelU026764 X-USTL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-USTL-MailScanner-From: yvon.henel@orange.fr X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:22:43 +0100 (CET) Le 05/03/2010 10:39, Michel Bovani a écrit : > Oui, mais une question quand même : > > pourquoi (et avec insistance) P.D.F. alors que l'on a par ailleurs CA, FAQ, DVD ? Bête reprise de l'ancien. J'ai corrigé pour PDF. -- Yvon Henel From - Fri Mar 5 13:40:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp21.services.sfr.fr (smtp21.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.3]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o25CeFYU054032 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:40:17 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2113.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A1D007000095 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:40:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (138.164.66-86.rev.gaoland.net [86.66.164.138]) by msfrf2113.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 75D3C700008B for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:40:15 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20100305124015482.75D3C700008B@msfrf2113.sfr.fr Message-ID: <4B90FB8E.6010301@laposte.net> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:39:42 +0100 From: Hedjour User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100216 Thunderbird/3.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=E9p=E9ter_le_contenu_d=27une_?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?cellule?= References: <4B90D382.9070508@ac-lille.fr> <2B097D3C-B565-4AF5-9443-03A174B8FED2@free.fr> In-Reply-To: <2B097D3C-B565-4AF5-9443-03A174B8FED2@free.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:40:17 +0100 (CET) Le 05/03/2010 11:22, Pierre Albarède a écrit : >> Existe-t-il un moyen de répéter rapidement le contenu d'une cellule sur une ligne pour éviter de taper ceci : >> >> \hline ligne& contenu& contenu& contenu& contenu& contenu& contenu& contenu& contenu& contenu& contenu& contenu& contenu& contenu& contenu& contenu& contenu \\ >> > J'essaierais avec \newcommand ou \savebox etc. pour éviter de répéter contenu. > Par contre, je ne vois pas comment éviter de répéter&. > > Comme la répétition risque d'être aussi désagréable pour le lecteur que pour le scribe, n'auriez vous pas intérêt à trouver une présentation plus synthétique ? > > Pierre Albarède > Un multicol ne vous permettrait pas d'apporter la même information mais sans avoir la répétition et pour le scribe et pour le lecteur ensuite. Si je me trompe pas de commande : \multicol{nbrecolone}{contenu} Hedj From - Fri Mar 5 13:53:50 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (smtp20.orange.fr [80.12.242.27]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o25CrP4D059847 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:53:26 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2012.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 801C7200458B for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:53:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2012.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6EA7520005D7 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:53:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from Fertel.home (ARennes-353-1-63-8.w92-139.abo.wanadoo.fr [92.139.102.8]) by mwinf2012.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DF83D20045A2 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:53:24 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20100305125324915.DF83D20045A2@mwinf2012.orange.fr Message-Id: <7E77D490-73F1-4BD4-8E82-7B393E4C2405@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jacques_Andr=E9?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: <4B90D382.9070508@ac-lille.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_R=E9p=E9ter_le_contenu_d'une_cellule?= Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:53:24 +0100 References: <4B90D382.9070508@ac-lille.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:53:27 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id o25CrP4D059847 Le 5 mars 2010 à 10:48, Cauwet Christophe a écrit : > > Bonjour > > Existe-t-il un moyen de répéter rapidement le contenu d'une cellule > sur une ligne pour éviter de taper ceci : > > \hline ligne & contenu & contenu & contenu & contenu & > contenu & contenu & contenu & contenu & contenu & > contenu & contenu & contenu & contenu & contenu & contenu > & contenu \\ Un marteau pilon : \documentclass{article} \makeatletter % macro FOR de Josselin Noirel citée par Alain Matthes (liste gut, 12/8/2008) \newcommand*{\For}[1]{{\gdef\@Do##1{#1}}\@For} \newcommand*{\@For}[3]{% \unless\ifnum#1 \ifnum#3>0 >\else <\fi #2 \@Do{#1}% \expandafter\@For\expandafter{\number\numexpr#1+#3}{#2}{#3}% \fi } \makeatother \begin{document} \begin{tabular}{ccccccc} \For{ A &}{1}{5}{1}A\\ \For{#1 &}{1}{5}{1}B\\ \For{ contenu &}{1}{5}{1}contenu\\ \end{tabular} \end{document} -- Jacques ANDRÉ From - Fri Mar 5 13:55:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp28.orange.fr (smtp28.orange.fr [80.12.242.99]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o25Ct78u060515 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:55:08 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2801.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0BABD80007AA for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:55:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2801.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id F2AB5800086A for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:55:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.52] (AMontsouris-158-1-83-153.w90-2.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.2.146.153]) by mwinf2801.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B042080007AA for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:55:06 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20100305125506722.B042080007AA@mwinf2801.orange.fr Message-Id: <576CF571-7C9D-42A3-A735-87B3B99ACC69@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: <4B90FB8E.6010301@laposte.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_R=E9p=E9ter_le_contenu_d'une_cellule?= Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:55:06 +0100 References: <4B90D382.9070508@ac-lille.fr> <2B097D3C-B565-4AF5-9443-03A174B8FED2@free.fr> <4B90FB8E.6010301@laposte.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:55:08 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id o25Ct78u060515 Non, la structure de multicol et \multicol{nbreCol}{positionnement} {contenu} Avec positionnement on peut ajouter des traits pour dire ce qu'on veut en bout de ligne. Ivan "Le degré de la lenteur est directement proportionnel à l'intensité de la mémoire; le degré de la vitesse est directement proportionnel à l'intensité de l'oubli" Milan Kundera ______________________ Pr. I. Lavallée Ingénieur CNAM-IIE Docteur Ingénieur Docteur d'état es Sciences Le 5 mars 10 à 13:39, Hedjour a écrit : > > Le 05/03/2010 11:22, Pierre Albarède a écrit : >>> Existe-t-il un moyen de répéter rapidement le contenu d'une >>> cellule sur une ligne pour éviter de taper ceci : >>> >>> \hline ligne& contenu& contenu& contenu& contenu& contenu& >>> contenu& contenu& contenu& contenu& contenu& contenu& >>> contenu& contenu& contenu& contenu& contenu \\ >>> >> J'essaierais avec \newcommand ou \savebox etc. pour éviter de >> répéter contenu. >> Par contre, je ne vois pas comment éviter de répéter&. >> >> Comme la répétition risque d'être aussi désagréable pour le lecteur >> que pour le scribe, n'auriez vous pas intérêt à trouver une >> présentation plus synthétique ? >> >> Pierre Albarède >> > Un multicol ne vous permettrait pas d'apporter la même information > mais sans avoir la répétition et pour le scribe et pour le lecteur > ensuite. > Si je me trompe pas de commande : > \multicol{nbrecolone}{contenu} > Hedj > > From - Fri Mar 5 15:00:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o25E07xk091175 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:00:07 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from math.jussieu.fr (mail.math.jussieu.fr [134.157.13.55]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.14.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id o25E06mt033384 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:00:07 +0100 (CET) X-Ids: 166 Received: from new-host.livebox.home (AMontsouris-159-1-111-105.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr [82.123.234.105]) (authenticated bits=0) by math.jussieu.fr (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o25E03m7003784 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 5 Mar 2010 15:00:04 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Bella=EFche?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?C=E9sure_de_=22Inutile=22?= Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 14:59:58 +0100 Message-Id: <59F60DCD-F2DF-4F9C-A47E-AB6ACEE523CC@math.jussieu.fr> Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Bella=EFche?= To: liste Gut Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1075.2) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1075.2) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.94.2/10520/Fri Mar 5 13:09:24 2010 on shiva.jussieu.fr X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Miltered: at jchkmail2.jussieu.fr with ID 4B910E66.006 by Joe's j-chkmail (http : // j-chkmail dot ensmp dot fr)! X-j-chkmail-Enveloppe: 4B910E66.006/134.157.13.55/mail.math.jussieu.fr/math.jussieu.fr/ X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:00:07 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id o25E07xk091175 Aussi bien avec \usepackage[french]{babel} qu'avec \usepackage [francais]{babel} j'obtiens la césure "In-utile" du mot "inutile" (avec majuscule parce que c'est en début de phrase : "Inutile de..."). Est-ce normal ? André Bellaïche From - Fri Mar 5 16:21:13 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp02.univ-lille1.fr (smtp02.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.20]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o25FKlqu031502 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:20:48 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtps1.univ-lille1.fr (smtps1.univ-lille1.fr [193.49.225.52]) by smtp02.univ-lille1.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o25FKjMt028026 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:20:45 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.2] (ble59-6-82-240-108-166.fbx.proxad.net [82.240.108.166]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtps1.univ-lille1.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id o25FKhKX014489 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 16:20:44 +0100 Message-ID: <4B91214C.1000900@free.fr> Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:20:44 +0100 From: Daniel Flipo User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20091109) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?C=E9sure_de_=22Inutile=22?= References: <59F60DCD-F2DF-4F9C-A47E-AB6ACEE523CC@math.jussieu.fr> In-Reply-To: <59F60DCD-F2DF-4F9C-A47E-AB6ACEE523CC@math.jussieu.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MailScanner-ID: o25FKjMt028026 X-USTL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-USTL-MailScanner-From: daniel.flipo@free.fr X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:20:48 +0100 (CET) André Bellaïche a écrit le 05/03/2010 14:59 : > Aussi bien avec \usepackage[french]{babel} qu'avec > \usepackage[francais]{babel} j'obtiens la césure "In-utile" du mot > "inutile" (avec majuscule parce que c'est en début de phrase : "Inutile > de..."). > > Est-ce normal ? Oui : il s'agit d'une coupure étymologique. On préfère couper in-utile plutôt que inu-tile (coupure phonétique). Les coupures i-nutile (une seule lettre en fin de ligne) et inuti-le (syllabe muette) sont évidemment interdites. La majuscule ne change rien et les trois options french/frenchb/francais de babel sont équivalentes sur tous les systèmes actuels. -- Daniel Flipo From - Sat Mar 6 08:50:56 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.2 required=5.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr (smtp2-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.2]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o267oRsR069623 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:50:29 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtp2-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FA1B4B0134 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:50:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from [88.165.161.195] (mal59-2-88-165-161-195.fbx.proxad.net [88.165.161.195]) by smtp2-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AABF4B00E0 for ; Sat, 6 Mar 2010 08:50:23 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B92093D.5040100@ac-lille.fr> Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 08:50:21 +0100 From: Cauwet Christophe User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=E9p=E9ter_le_contenu_d=27une_?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?cellule?= References: <4B90D382.9070508@ac-lille.fr> <7E77D490-73F1-4BD4-8E82-7B393E4C2405@orange.fr> In-Reply-To: <7E77D490-73F1-4BD4-8E82-7B393E4C2405@orange.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sat, 06 Mar 2010 08:50:30 +0100 (CET) Jacques André a écrit : > > Un marteau pilon : Merci pour le coup de marteau. Cette solution me convient tout à fait. Cordialement Christophe PS : le but n'était pas de *marteler* un lecteur mais de me constituer une grille d'évaluation dont le contenu est très répétitif. From - Sun Mar 7 16:30:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o27FUKS6082292 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:30:22 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D4DF9400C9 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:30:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from pombert.jejust.fr (pat35-4-88-164-240-96.fbx.proxad.net [88.164.240.96]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 357619401AD for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:30:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.jejust.fr [127.0.0.1]) by pombert.jejust.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C7134057; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:30:16 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jejust.fr Received: from pombert.jejust.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pombert.jejust.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id nbtOc6XnEaP4; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:29:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from jejust.fr (pombert.jejust.fr [192.168.102.8]) by pombert.jejust.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99C1834037; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:29:56 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:29:54 +0100 From: Jeremy JUST To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] aux =?ISO-8859-15?Q?adh=E9rents?= de GUTenberg et =?ISO-8859-15?Q?=E0?= quelques anciens =?ISO-8859-15?Q?adh=E9rents?= Message-ID: <20100307162954.08c4b2a5@jejust.fr> In-Reply-To: References: <201002271943.22460.yvon.henel@orange.fr> <4B897920.7030503@geo.hmg.inpg.fr> <36FBF99A-FEB3-447E-8649-3BF209DCD69D@orange.fr> <20100227213539.3ced0a9e@drums> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.18.6; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sun, 07 Mar 2010 16:30:22 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id o27FUKS6082292 Bonjour, Le Sat, 27 Feb 2010 22:35:22 +0100, Pierre Albarède a écrit : > Comme je n'ai plus de place chez moi pour ranger les papiers, > serait-ce possible d'avoir la lettre en pdf Yvon bosse dur pour mettre en ligne les derniers numéros de la Lettre sur le site web de l'association. Pour compléter son mail de jeudi, ils vont apparaître progressivement ici: http://dedibox.gutenberg.eu.org/spip.php?rubrique11 (je vous rappelle que c'est une adresse provisoire pour notre nouveau site, et que toutes les remarques constructives sont les bienvenues) Mais est-ce que ça intéresserait du monde de recevoir systéma- tiquement le PDF de la Lettre par mail? On peut réfléchir à une diffusion électronique auprès des adhérents qui le souhaitent. Ou bien est-ce que ça suffit que le PDF soit mis à disposition sur le site web? > J'espère que ça peut bien redémarrer et que nos cotisations puissent > servir à financer des projets autour de LaTeX, notamment un étudiant, > ça serait bien. L'idée de financer un étudiant avait émergé quand on s'est posé la question de dissoudre l'association. Après l'élection du nouveau CA, à l'assemblée générale de novembre dernier, nous avons beaucoup discuté entre nous, en nous basant sur les retours de tous les membres (discussions sur GUT, échanges lors de la journée de novembre...), et nous sommes partis sur une relance des activités de l'association. Donc on privilégie les projets propres de l'association (voir un aperçu dans la lettre GUTenberg 36), et on ne finance pas de projets externes pour l'instant. Mais il sera toujours temps de discuter de tout ça à la prochaine journée GUT! Bonne soirée. -- Jérémy Just, pour le CA de GUTenberg From - Sun Mar 7 16:59:33 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o27Fx6TF089136 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:59:08 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E47BE940026 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:59:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (men13-4-82-240-63-63.fbx.proxad.net [82.240.63.63]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEC1B9400C3 for ; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:59:01 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_aux_adh=E9rents_de_GUTenberg_et_=E0_que?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?lques_anciens_adh=E9rents?= From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pierre_Albar=E8de?= In-Reply-To: <20100307162954.08c4b2a5@jejust.fr> Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:59:01 +0100 Message-Id: References: <201002271943.22460.yvon.henel@orange.fr> <4B897920.7030503@geo.hmg.inpg.fr> <36FBF99A-FEB3-447E-8649-3BF209DCD69D@orange.fr> <20100227213539.3ced0a9e@drums> <20100307162954.08c4b2a5@jejust.fr> To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sun, 07 Mar 2010 16:59:08 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id o27Fx6TF089136 Bonjour, J. J. > Ou bien est-ce que ça suffit que le PDF soit mis à disposition > sur le site web? Pour moi c'est suffisant. De plus, j'aime bien recevoir le papier également. Pierre Albarède From - Mon Mar 8 10:17:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from hermes.univ-tours.fr (hermes.univ-tours.fr [193.52.209.50]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o289HS5i049102 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:17:29 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: DomainKey-Signature: s=main; d=univ-tours.fr; c=nofws; q=dns; h=X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result:Received:Received: X-Virus-Scanned:Received:Received:Content-Type: Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To: X-Mailer; b=SOF/Zi7YldTKKamEqNBQudHr3wTRlwpzCWKoZBMuBSTzvCFASWyxgd1S DHkKzjAc9I7xM9p6Io2ZKkXVB36q7DVU6Oerc/AU+tOX4CZiY2o58e8Fq DsnIhn31yUrsSWorkyMzsawL1e+A3KkqTkKe9b3hW4hfv5wwd+orvYwWg 0=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAB5PlEvBNNEi/2dsb2JhbACcGLdlhHgE Received: from casimir.univ-tours.fr (HELO rabelais.univ-tours.fr) ([193.52.209.34]) by hermes2.univ-tours.fr with ESMTP; 08 Mar 2010 10:17:28 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by rabelais.univ-tours.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F99639F401A for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:17:28 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at univ-tours.fr Received: from rabelais.univ-tours.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (imap.univ-tours.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6fnkn71tmP6I for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:17:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.65.8.21] (unknown [10.65.8.21]) by rabelais.univ-tours.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A2339F4013 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:17:28 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_aux_adh=E9rents_de_GUTenberg_et_=E0_que?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?lques_anciens_adh=E9rents?= From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Herv=E9_CHOPLIN?= In-Reply-To: <20100307162954.08c4b2a5@jejust.fr> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:17:27 +0100 Message-Id: <5CD85161-A8C9-4031-A174-4E75FB114A6C@univ-tours.fr> References: <201002271943.22460.yvon.henel@orange.fr> <4B897920.7030503@geo.hmg.inpg.fr> <36FBF99A-FEB3-447E-8649-3BF209DCD69D@orange.fr> <20100227213539.3ced0a9e@drums> <20100307162954.08c4b2a5@jejust.fr> To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 08 Mar 2010 10:17:29 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id o289HS5i049102 Le 7 mars 2010 à 16:29, Jeremy JUST a écrit : > > Bonjour, > > Le Sat, 27 Feb 2010 22:35:22 +0100, > Pierre Albarède a écrit : > >> Comme je n'ai plus de place chez moi pour ranger les papiers, >> serait-ce possible d'avoir la lettre en pdf > > > Mais est-ce que ça intéresserait du monde de recevoir systéma- > tiquement le PDF de la Lettre par mail? On peut réfléchir à une > diffusion électronique auprès des adhérents qui le souhaitent. > Ou bien est-ce que ça suffit que le PDF soit mis à disposition > sur le site web? Pourquoi pas envisager ce que font certaines sociétés (EDF GDF France-Telecom Cofiroute ...) pour leur factures afin d'économiser du papier et les frais d'envoi : Mettre la lettre Gutenberg sur le site et prévenir par courriel avec le lien sur le fichier PDF les adhérents, que celle-ci est disponible. Faut penser aux économies surtout tant que le nombre d'adhérents n'augmente pas et même diminue. > > Bonne soirée. > > -- > Jérémy Just, pour le CA de GUTenberg > Hervé CHOPLIN Université François Rabelais - UFR Sciences et Techniques Parc Grandmont 37200 TOURS France Tél: +33 247367343 e-mail: herve.choplin@univ-tours.fr - AIM/iChat: choplinnts From - Mon Mar 8 17:03:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from mxin.ulb.ac.be (mxin.ulb.ac.be [164.15.128.112]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o28G363m060950 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 17:03:07 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhgFAJWulEukD4IH/2dsb2JhbACBRJlkc6x6CI0HgkQFGQiCDgQ Received: from csomac2.ulb.ac.be ([164.15.130.7]) by smtp.ulb.ac.be with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 08 Mar 2010 17:03:06 +0100 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_aux__adh=E9rents_de_GUTenberg_et_=E0_qu?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?elques_anciens_adh=E9rents?= References: <201002271943.22460.yvon.henel@orange.fr> From: Jean-Louis Colot Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--153306562 In-Reply-To: <201002271943.22460.yvon.henel@orange.fr> Message-Id: Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 17:03:05 +0100 To: gut@ens.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:03:07 +0100 (CET) --Apple-Mail-1--153306562 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Bonjour, Pourriez-vous m'envoyer les indications bancaires pour effectuer le viremen= t les codes IBAN (International Bank Account Number) et le BIC (Bank Identi= fier Code) ? Bien cordialement, Jean-Louis Colot Le 27 f=E9vr. 2010 =E0 19:43, yvon henel a =E9crit : > Bonjour =E0 toutes et tous, >=20 > Vous avez maintenant tous d=FB recevoir par la poste la lettre GUTenberg= =20 > num=E9ro 36 et le DVD de TeX-Live 2009. Si ce n'est pas le cas, c'est : > --- soit que nous n'avons pas votre adresse postale correcte > (dans ce cas, contactez-nous =E0 ), > --- soit que vous n'=EAtes pas =E0 jour de votre cotisation (dans ce cas = :=20 > http://www.gutenberg.eu.org/association/article224.html) >=20 > Comme nous n'avons pas =E9t=E9s parfaitement au point pour les relances d= e=20 > cotisation en 2009, nous avons d=E9cid=E9 d'envoyer le DVD aussi aux=20 > membres qui auraient oubli=E9 de cotiser l'an dernier. Consid=E9rez que= =20 > c'est un petit cadeau qu'on vous fait, mais ne tardez pas pour 2010 ! >=20 > Nous avons pas mal de projets pour GUTenberg dans nos cartons, et nous > ne m=E9nageons pas nos efforts pour les faire avancer. Nous vous=20=20 > tiendrons au courant, soyez en certains. >=20 >=20 > Bonne lecture et bonne installation de TeX-Live ! >=20 > --=20 > Yvon Henel > pour le CA de GUTenberg _____________________________________ Jean-Louis Colot cso, cp 238, Universit=E9 Libre de Bruxelles bd. Triomphe, 1050 Bruxelles +32 2 650 5514 jlcolot@ulb.ac.be --Apple-Mail-1--153306562 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Bonjour,

Pourriez-vous m'envoyer les indications bancaires pour effectuer le virem= ent les codes IBAN (International Ba= nk Account Number) et le BIC (Bank Identifier Code) ?=

Bien cordialement,

Jean-Louis Colot

Le 27 f=E9vr. 2010 =E0 19:43, yv= on henel a =E9crit :

Bonjour =E0 toutes et tous,

Vous avez mainten= ant tous d=FB recevoir par la poste la lettre GUTenberg
num=E9ro 36 et = le DVD de TeX-Live 2009. Si ce n'est pas le cas, c'est :
--- soit que no= us n'avons pas votre adresse postale correcte
   (dans c= e cas, contactez-nous =E0 <secretariat@gutenberg.eu.org>),
--- soit que vous n'=EAtes pas= =E0 jour de votre cotisation (dans ce cas :
http://www.gutenberg.eu.org/assoc= iation/article224.html)

Comme nous n'avons pas =E9t=E9s parfaite= ment au point pour les relances de
cotisation en 2009, nous avons d=E9c= id=E9 d'envoyer le DVD aussi aux
membres qui auraient oubli=E9 de cotis= er l'an dernier. Consid=E9rez que
c'est un petit cadeau qu'on vous fait= , mais ne tardez pas pour 2010 !

Nous avons pas mal de projets pour = GUTenberg dans nos cartons, et nous
ne m=E9nageons pas nos efforts pour = les faire avancer. Nous vous  
tiendrons au courant, soyez en certa= ins.


Bonne lecture et bonne installation de TeX-Live !

--=
Yvon Henel
pour le CA de GUTenberg

=
_____________________________________
Jean-Louis Col= ot
cso, cp 238, Universit=E9 Libre de Bruxelles
bd. Tri= omphe, 1050 Bruxelles
+32 2 650 5514


<= /div>


--Apple-Mail-1--153306562-- From - Mon Mar 8 17:05:25 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp6-g21.free.fr (smtp6-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.6]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o28G4xix061972 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 17:05:01 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtp6-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF6FE08218 for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 17:04:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (ax113-1-82-66-163-32.fbx.proxad.net [82.66.163.32]) by smtp6-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE031E0803A for ; Mon, 8 Mar 2010 17:04:54 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_aux_adh=E9rents_de_GUTenberg_et_=E0_que?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?lques_anciens_adh=E9rents?= From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pierre_Albar=E8de?= In-Reply-To: <5CD85161-A8C9-4031-A174-4E75FB114A6C@univ-tours.fr> Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 17:04:54 +0100 Message-Id: References: <201002271943.22460.yvon.henel@orange.fr> <4B897920.7030503@geo.hmg.inpg.fr> <36FBF99A-FEB3-447E-8649-3BF209DCD69D@orange.fr> <20100227213539.3ced0a9e@drums> <20100307162954.08c4b2a5@jejust.fr> <5CD85161-A8C9-4031-A174-4E75FB114A6C@univ-tours.fr> To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:05:01 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id o28G4xix061972 Salut > Pourquoi pas envisager ce que font certaines sociétés (EDF GDF France-Telecom Cofiroute ...) pour leur factures afin d'économiser du papier et les frais d'envoi : > Mettre la lettre Gutenberg sur le site et prévenir par courriel avec le lien sur le fichier PDF les adhérents, que celle-ci est disponible. > Faut penser aux économies surtout tant que le nombre d'adhérents n'augmente pas et même diminue. Pas d'accord. Le papier ça coûte un peu mais c'est beau et on peut le laisser trainer à la cafète etc. Mais je suis prêt à m'incliner devant une majorité. Pierre Albarède From - Tue Mar 9 00:49:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr (smtp23.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.19]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o28NmtHf005653 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 00:48:56 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2318.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 31947700008D for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 00:48:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (cha92-3-89-80-133-216.dsl.club-internet.fr [89.80.133.216]) by msfrf2318.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 117C67000084 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 00:48:55 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20100308234855716.117C67000084@msfrf2318.sfr.fr Message-Id: <12A1EDDD-0137-4B04-9050-EFC1B975C7E5@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: liste Gut Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: footnotemark Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 00:48:54 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 09 Mar 2010 00:48:56 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id o28NmtHf005653 Bonjour Comment fait-on lorsqu'on a plusieurs notes dans un tableau pour qu'elles apparaissent avec des n° différents, et aussi tout de suite après le tableau et pas en bas de page ? Ivan "Le degré de la lenteur est directement proportionnel à l'intensité de la mémoire; le degré de la vitesse est directement proportionnel à l'intensité de l'oubli" Milan Kundera ______________________ Pr. I. Lavallée Ingénieur CNAM-IIE Docteur Ingénieur Docteur d'état es Sciences From - Tue Mar 9 06:58:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.200]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o295wMHS087567 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 06:58:23 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 300A99E834C for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 06:58:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 13725-01 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 06:58:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.204]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EBE89E8348 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 06:58:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from acces.univ-fcomte.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAFEE3C2F03 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 06:58:20 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.7] (pla25-1-82-225-17-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.17.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by acces.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 638807C7B for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 06:58:20 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B95E374.8010601@univ-fcomte.fr> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 06:58:12 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?P=E9tiard_Fran=E7ois?= Reply-To: liste Gut User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] footnotemark References: <12A1EDDD-0137-4B04-9050-EFC1B975C7E5@orange.fr> In-Reply-To: <12A1EDDD-0137-4B04-9050-EFC1B975C7E5@orange.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at univ-fcomte.fr X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 09 Mar 2010 06:58:23 +0100 (CET) Le 09/03/2010 00:48, Ivan Lavallée a écrit : > Bonjour > Comment fait-on lorsqu'on a plusieurs notes dans un tableau pour > qu'elles apparaissent avec des n° différents, et aussi tout de suite > après le tableau et pas en bas de page ? > Ivan > Bonjour Quelque chose comme ça ? %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \documentclass[a4paper,12pt,leqno]{article} \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \usepackage{lmodern} \usepackage[francais]{babel} \usepackage[autolanguage]{numprint} \usepackage{microtype} \usepackage[margin=1in]{geometry} \pagestyle{plain} \usepackage{lipsum} \begin{document} \setlength{\parindent}{0pt} \renewcommand{\thempfootnote}{\arabic{mpfootnote}} \lipsum[1] \medskip \begin{minipage}{\textwidth} \begin{tabular}{|*{8}{c|}} \hline Bla\footnotemark&Ble\footnotemark&Bli\footnotemark&Blo\footnotemark& Blu\footnotemark&Bly\footnotemark&Bla\footnotemark&Ble\footnotemark \\ \hline Bla\footnotemark&Ble\footnotemark&Bli\footnotemark&Blo\footnotemark& Blu\footnotemark&Bly\footnotemark&Bla\footnotemark&Ble\footnotemark \\ \hline \end{tabular} \footnotetext[1]{Un} \footnotetext[2]{Deux} \footnotetext[3]{Trois} \footnotetext[4]{Quatre} \footnotetext[5]{Cinq} \footnotetext[6]{Six} \footnotetext[7]{Sept} \footnotetext[8]{Huit} \footnotetext[9]{Neuf} \footnotetext[10]{Dix} \footnotetext[11]{Onze} \footnotetext[12]{Douze} \footnotetext[13]{Treize} \footnotetext[14]{Quatorze} \footnotetext[15]{Quinze} \footnotetext[16]{Seize} \end{minipage} \medskip \lipsum[2] \end{document} %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% François From - Tue Mar 9 08:42:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp21.services.sfr.fr (smtp21.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.2]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o297g4pf014576 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:42:05 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2106.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 03AD6700008C for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:42:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (cha92-3-89-80-133-216.dsl.club-internet.fr [89.80.133.216]) by msfrf2106.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B902E7000086 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:42:03 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20100309074203757.B902E7000086@msfrf2106.sfr.fr Message-Id: <026B89D6-7821-4FC5-B182-BD082AC16661@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: liste Gut In-Reply-To: <4B95E374.8010601@univ-fcomte.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: [gut] footnotemark Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:42:04 +0100 References: <12A1EDDD-0137-4B04-9050-EFC1B975C7E5@orange.fr> <4B95E374.8010601@univ-fcomte.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:42:05 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id o297g4pf014576 Merci et bravo, je n'avais pas pensé à utiliser la minipage pour ce faire, comme ça c'est évident. Ivan "Le degré de la lenteur est directement proportionnel à l'intensité de la mémoire; le degré de la vitesse est directement proportionnel à l'intensité de l'oubli" Milan Kundera ______________________ Pr. I. Lavallée Ingénieur CNAM-IIE Docteur Ingénieur Docteur d'état es Sciences Le 9 mars 10 à 06:58, Pétiard François a écrit : > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > \documentclass[a4paper,12pt,leqno]{article} > \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} > \usepackage{lmodern} > \usepackage[francais]{babel} > \usepackage[autolanguage]{numprint} > \usepackage{microtype} > \usepackage[margin=1in]{geometry} > \pagestyle{plain} > \usepackage{lipsum} > \begin{document} > \setlength{\parindent}{0pt} > \renewcommand{\thempfootnote}{\arabic{mpfootnote}} > > \lipsum[1] > > \medskip > \begin{minipage}{\textwidth} > \begin{tabular}{|*{8}{c|}} > \hline > Bla\footnotemark&Ble\footnotemark&Bli\footnotemark&Blo\footnotemark& > Blu\footnotemark&Bly\footnotemark&Bla\footnotemark&Ble\footnotemark > \\ > \hline > Bla\footnotemark&Ble\footnotemark&Bli\footnotemark&Blo\footnotemark& > Blu\footnotemark&Bly\footnotemark&Bla\footnotemark&Ble\footnotemark > \\ > \hline > \end{tabular} > \footnotetext[1]{Un} > \footnotetext[2]{Deux} > \footnotetext[3]{Trois} > \footnotetext[4]{Quatre} > \footnotetext[5]{Cinq} > \footnotetext[6]{Six} > \footnotetext[7]{Sept} > \footnotetext[8]{Huit} > \footnotetext[9]{Neuf} > \footnotetext[10]{Dix} > \footnotetext[11]{Onze} > \footnotetext[12]{Douze} > \footnotetext[13]{Treize} > \footnotetext[14]{Quatorze} > \footnotetext[15]{Quinze} > \footnotetext[16]{Seize} > \end{minipage} > > \medskip > \lipsum[2] > \end{document} > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% From - Tue Mar 9 08:45:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp21.services.sfr.fr (smtp21.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.2]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o297jH1u015856 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:45:18 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2106.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4590E7000094 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:45:17 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (cha92-3-89-80-133-216.dsl.club-internet.fr [89.80.133.216]) by msfrf2106.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0CF3D7000092 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:45:17 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20100309074517531.0CF3D7000092@msfrf2106.sfr.fr Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: liste Gut In-Reply-To: <4B95E374.8010601@univ-fcomte.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?footnotemark_Une_question_quand_m=EAme?= Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 08:45:18 +0100 References: <12A1EDDD-0137-4B04-9050-EFC1B975C7E5@orange.fr> <4B95E374.8010601@univ-fcomte.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 09 Mar 2010 08:45:18 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id o297jH1u015856 Comment le compilateur met-il en correspondance la \footnotemark avec la \footenotetext[12]{} ? Il les prend dans l'ordre d'apparition ? Ivan "Le degré de la lenteur est directement proportionnel à l'intensité de la mémoire; le degré de la vitesse est directement proportionnel à l'intensité de l'oubli" Milan Kundera ______________________ Pr. I. Lavallée Ingénieur CNAM-IIE Docteur Ingénieur Docteur d'état es Sciences Le 9 mars 10 à 06:58, Pétiard François a écrit : > > Le 09/03/2010 00:48, Ivan Lavallée a écrit : >> Bonjour >> Comment fait-on lorsqu'on a plusieurs notes dans un tableau pour >> qu'elles apparaissent avec des n° différents, et aussi tout de suite >> après le tableau et pas en bas de page ? >> Ivan >> > Bonjour > > Quelque chose comme ça ? > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > \documentclass[a4paper,12pt,leqno]{article} > \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} > \usepackage{lmodern} > \usepackage[francais]{babel} > \usepackage[autolanguage]{numprint} > \usepackage{microtype} > \usepackage[margin=1in]{geometry} > \pagestyle{plain} > \usepackage{lipsum} > \begin{document} > \setlength{\parindent}{0pt} > \renewcommand{\thempfootnote}{\arabic{mpfootnote}} > > \lipsum[1] > > \medskip > \begin{minipage}{\textwidth} > \begin{tabular}{|*{8}{c|}} > \hline > Bla\footnotemark&Ble\footnotemark&Bli\footnotemark&Blo\footnotemark& > Blu\footnotemark&Bly\footnotemark&Bla\footnotemark&Ble\footnotemark > \\ > \hline > Bla\footnotemark&Ble\footnotemark&Bli\footnotemark&Blo\footnotemark& > Blu\footnotemark&Bly\footnotemark&Bla\footnotemark&Ble\footnotemark > \\ > \hline > \end{tabular} > \footnotetext[1]{Un} > \footnotetext[2]{Deux} > \footnotetext[3]{Trois} > \footnotetext[4]{Quatre} > \footnotetext[5]{Cinq} > \footnotetext[6]{Six} > \footnotetext[7]{Sept} > \footnotetext[8]{Huit} > \footnotetext[9]{Neuf} > \footnotetext[10]{Dix} > \footnotetext[11]{Onze} > \footnotetext[12]{Douze} > \footnotetext[13]{Treize} > \footnotetext[14]{Quatorze} > \footnotetext[15]{Quinze} > \footnotetext[16]{Seize} > \end{minipage} > > \medskip > \lipsum[2] > \end{document} > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > François > From - Tue Mar 9 09:01:04 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.200]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2980cSR020934 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 09:00:39 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA109E844B for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 09:00:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 26934-03 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 09:00:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.204]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 632F39E834C for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 09:00:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from acces.univ-fcomte.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A63F3C2FB9 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 09:00:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.7] (pla25-1-82-225-17-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.17.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by acces.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10D0D7C7B for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 09:00:37 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B960023.3070205@univ-fcomte.fr> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:00:35 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?P=E9tiard_Fran=E7ois?= Reply-To: liste Gut User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_=5Bgut=5D_footnotemark_Une_question?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_quand_m=EAme?= References: <12A1EDDD-0137-4B04-9050-EFC1B975C7E5@orange.fr> <4B95E374.8010601@univ-fcomte.fr> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at univ-fcomte.fr X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:00:39 +0100 (CET) Le 09/03/2010 08:45, Ivan Lavallée a écrit : > Comment le compilateur met-il en correspondance la \footnotemark avec la > \footenotetext[12]{} ? Il les prend dans l'ordre d'apparition ? > Ivan > Je crois, oui : chaque appel à \footnotemark incrémente le compteur footnote (en fait, dans ce cas, le compteur mpfootnote puisque l'on est dans une minipage). Ce qui fait que, lorsque l'on sort du tableau, le compteur mpfootnote est à 16. On est alors obligé de préciser "à la main" le numéro de référence pour le texte de la note. Donc, en réalité, il n'y a pas de correspondance automatique. C'est comme ça que je vois les choses, mais je me trompe peut-être ??? François From - Tue Mar 9 10:21:15 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp2e.orange.fr (smtp2e.orange.fr [80.12.242.113]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o299KnbC054196 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:20:51 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2e19.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8B1CD80005A1 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:20:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2e19.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 785E780002CE for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:20:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from omr.lan (ALyon-156-1-26-82.w86-216.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.216.49.82]) by mwinf2e19.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 18FDE80005A1 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:20:49 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20100309092049102.18FDE80005A1@mwinf2e19.orange.fr X-ME-User-Auth: m.rome@wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <4B9612EF.3050704@wanadoo.fr> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:20:47 +0100 From: michel ROME User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; fr; rv:1.8.1.14) Gecko/20080421 Thunderbird/2.0.0.14 Mnenhy/0.7.6.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_=5Bgut=5D_footnotemark_Une_question?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_quand_m=EAme?= References: <12A1EDDD-0137-4B04-9050-EFC1B975C7E5@orange.fr> <4B95E374.8010601@univ-fcomte.fr> <4B960023.3070205@univ-fcomte.fr> In-Reply-To: <4B960023.3070205@univ-fcomte.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:20:51 +0100 (CET) Le 09/03/10 09:00, Pétiard François a écrit : > > Le 09/03/2010 08:45, Ivan Lavallée a écrit : >> Comment le compilateur met-il en correspondance la \footnotemark avec la >> \footenotetext[12]{} ? Il les prend dans l'ordre d'apparition ? >> Ivan >> > > Je crois, oui : chaque appel à \footnotemark incrémente le compteur > footnote (en fait, dans ce cas, le compteur mpfootnote puisque l'on est > dans une minipage). > Ce qui fait que, lorsque l'on sort du tableau, le compteur mpfootnote > est à 16. On est alors obligé de préciser "à la main" le numéro de > référence pour le texte de la note. Donc, en réalité, il n'y a pas de > correspondance automatique. > C'est comme ça que je vois les choses, mais je me trompe peut-être ??? > > > François > > Et comme ça ce ne seraait pas plus logique. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \documentclass[a4paper,12pt,leqno]{article} \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \usepackage{lmodern} \usepackage[francais]{babel} \usepackage[autolanguage]{numprint} \usepackage{microtype} \usepackage[margin=1in]{geometry} \pagestyle{plain} \usepackage{lipsum} \begin{document} \setlength{\parindent}{0pt} \renewcommand{\thempfootnote}{\arabic{mpfootnote}} \lipsum[1] \medskip \begin{minipage}{\textwidth} \begin{tabular}{|*{8}{c|}} \hline Bla\footnote{Un}&Ble\footnote{Deux}&Bli\footnote{Trois}&Blo\footnote{Quatre}& Blu\footnote{Cinq}&Bly\footnote{Six}&Bla\footnote{Sept}&Ble\footnote{Huit} \\ \hline Bla\footnote{Neuf}&Ble\footnote{Dix}&Bli\footnote{Onze}&Blo\footnote{Douze}& Bla\footnote{TReize}&Blu\footnote{Quatorze}&Bly\footnote{Quinze}&Bla\footnote{Seize} \\ \hline \end{tabular} \end{minipage} \medskip \lipsum[2] \end{document} %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% From - Tue Mar 9 10:23:26 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o299N0lJ055000 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:23:02 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32DC3940174; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:22:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from pombert.jejust.fr (pat35-4-88-164-240-96.fbx.proxad.net [88.164.240.96]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 412A29401AF; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:22:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.jejust.fr [127.0.0.1]) by pombert.jejust.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3CFA34057; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:22:54 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jejust.fr Received: from pombert.jejust.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pombert.jejust.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id B2UUHEwe04p6; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:22:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from norbert.jejust.fr (norbert.jejust.fr [192.168.101.6]) by pombert.jejust.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAE7B34037; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:22:40 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:22:40 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?J=E9r=E9my?= JUST To: gut@ens.fr Cc: secretariat@gutenberg.eu.org Subject: Re: [gut] aux =?ISO-8859-15?Q?adh=E9rents?= de GUTenberg et =?ISO-8859-15?Q?=E0?= quelques anciens =?ISO-8859-15?Q?adh=E9rents?= Message-ID: <20100309102240.2960277e@norbert.jejust.fr> In-Reply-To: References: <201002271943.22460.yvon.henel@orange.fr> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.6; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:23:03 +0100 (CET) Bonjour, Le Mon, 8 Mar 2010 17:03:05 +0100, Jean-Louis Colot a écrit : > Pourriez-vous m'envoyer les indications bancaires pour effectuer le > virement les codes IBAN (International Bank Account Number) et le BIC > (Bank Identifier Code) ? Ces demandes sont plutôt à envoyer à , pour ne pas polluer la liste de discussion. J'ai mis cette adresse en copie, Sarah, notre secrétaire, va s'occuper de tout. Bonne journée. -- Jérémy JUST From - Tue Mar 9 10:31:41 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr (smtp23.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.20]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o299VE9L058756 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:31:15 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2307.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0FCDA700009D for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:31:14 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.21] (cha92-3-89-80-133-216.dsl.club-internet.fr [89.80.133.216]) by msfrf2307.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C2BF970000A8 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:31:13 +0100 (CET) X-SFR-UUID: 20100309093113797.C2BF970000A8@msfrf2307.sfr.fr Message-Id: <4C6EC0D6-4636-4141-AEBE-09213CB19DBC@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ivan_Lavall=E9e?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: <4B9612EF.3050704@wanadoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_footnotemark_Une_question_quand_m=EAme?= Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 10:31:12 +0100 References: <12A1EDDD-0137-4B04-9050-EFC1B975C7E5@orange.fr> <4B95E374.8010601@univ-fcomte.fr> <4B960023.3070205@univ-fcomte.fr> <4B9612EF.3050704@wanadoo.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:31:15 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id o299VE9L058756 Ca marche aussi... Merci "Le degré de la lenteur est directement proportionnel à l'intensité de la mémoire; le degré de la vitesse est directement proportionnel à l'intensité de l'oubli" Milan Kundera ______________________ Pr. I. Lavallée Ingénieur CNAM-IIE Docteur Ingénieur Docteur d'état es Sciences Le 9 mars 10 à 10:20, michel ROME a écrit : > > Le 09/03/10 09:00, Pétiard François a écrit : >> >> Le 09/03/2010 08:45, Ivan Lavallée a écrit : >>> Comment le compilateur met-il en correspondance la \footnotemark >>> avec la >>> \footenotetext[12]{} ? Il les prend dans l'ordre d'apparition ? >>> Ivan >>> >> >> Je crois, oui : chaque appel à \footnotemark incrémente le compteur >> footnote (en fait, dans ce cas, le compteur mpfootnote puisque l'on >> est >> dans une minipage). >> Ce qui fait que, lorsque l'on sort du tableau, le compteur mpfootnote >> est à 16. On est alors obligé de préciser "à la main" le numéro de >> référence pour le texte de la note. Donc, en réalité, il n'y a pas de >> correspondance automatique. >> C'est comme ça que je vois les choses, mais je me trompe peut- >> être ??? >> >> >> François >> >> > Et comme ça ce ne seraait pas plus logique. > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > \documentclass[a4paper,12pt,leqno]{article} > \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} > \usepackage{lmodern} > \usepackage[francais]{babel} > \usepackage[autolanguage]{numprint} > \usepackage{microtype} > \usepackage[margin=1in]{geometry} > \pagestyle{plain} > \usepackage{lipsum} > \begin{document} > \setlength{\parindent}{0pt} > \renewcommand{\thempfootnote}{\arabic{mpfootnote}} > > \lipsum[1] > > \medskip > \begin{minipage}{\textwidth} > \begin{tabular}{|*{8}{c|}} > \hline > Bla\footnote{Un}&Ble\footnote{Deux}&Bli\footnote{Trois}&Blo > \footnote{Quatre}& > Blu\footnote{Cinq}&Bly\footnote{Six}&Bla\footnote{Sept}&Ble > \footnote{Huit} > \\ > \hline > Bla\footnote{Neuf}&Ble\footnote{Dix}&Bli\footnote{Onze}&Blo > \footnote{Douze}& > Bla\footnote{TReize}&Blu\footnote{Quatorze}&Bly\footnote{Quinze}&Bla > \footnote{Seize} > \\ > \hline > \end{tabular} > \end{minipage} > > \medskip > \lipsum[2] > \end{document} > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > > > > From - Tue Mar 9 15:32:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o29EVsRD008042 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 15:31:56 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E63D940219; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 15:31:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from pombert.jejust.fr (pat35-4-88-164-240-96.fbx.proxad.net [88.164.240.96]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689279401AE; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 15:31:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost.jejust.fr [127.0.0.1]) by pombert.jejust.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C90F34047; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 15:31:49 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at jejust.fr Received: from pombert.jejust.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (pombert.jejust.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id QrdrwoJcGhlh; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 15:31:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from norbert.jejust.fr (norbert.jejust.fr [192.168.101.6]) by pombert.jejust.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 848B634037; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 15:31:31 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 15:31:31 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?J=E9r=E9my?= JUST To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] aux =?ISO-8859-15?Q?adh=E9rents?= de GUTenberg et =?ISO-8859-15?Q?=E0?= quelques anciens =?ISO-8859-15?Q?adh=E9rents?= Message-ID: <20100309153131.0af47e63@norbert.jejust.fr> In-Reply-To: <5CD85161-A8C9-4031-A174-4E75FB114A6C@univ-tours.fr> References: <201002271943.22460.yvon.henel@orange.fr> <4B897920.7030503@geo.hmg.inpg.fr> <36FBF99A-FEB3-447E-8649-3BF209DCD69D@orange.fr> <20100227213539.3ced0a9e@drums> <20100307162954.08c4b2a5@jejust.fr> <5CD85161-A8C9-4031-A174-4E75FB114A6C@univ-tours.fr> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.5 (GTK+ 2.18.6; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:31:56 +0100 (CET) Bonjour, Le Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:17:27 +0100, Hervé CHOPLIN a écrit : > Pourquoi pas envisager ce que font certaines sociétés (EDF GDF > France-Telecom Cofiroute ...) pour leur factures afin d'économiser du > papier et les frais d'envoi Aussi bien pour les factures que pour la Lettre, je n'aime pas, mais pas pour les mêmes raisons: - une facture doit être éditée en deux exemplaires, un pour chacun des partenaires de la transaction, ainsi toute altération est détectable. Si l'un des partenaires est seul détenteur de tous les exemplaires (par exemple en proposant de garder le PDF sur son site web), il n'y a plus aucune sécurité, donc autant ne pas faire semblant d'émettre une facture. - j'aime bien lire la Lettre dans le bus. :) > Mettre la lettre Gutenberg sur le site et prévenir par courriel avec > le lien sur le fichier PDF les adhérents, que celle-ci est > disponible. J'ai des dizaines d'URL de PDF stockées sur mon ordinateur, de documents que je dois lire « un jour ». Et finalement, il n'y a que les documents que j'imprime que je prends le temps de lire, grâce aux trajets en bus ou en train. Donc personnellement, je suis assez attaché au papier, même si ça nous coûte plus cher. Actuellement, notre système ne nous permet pas de donner le choix aux adhérents entre papier et PDF. Donc on envoie le papier à tout le monde, et le PDF est sur le site web. Mais si certains préfèrent ne plus recevoir le papier, et être avisés par un mail adressé personnellement, on peut essayer d'inclure cette possibilité dans la refonte de notre système. Est-ce une bonne idée? > Faut penser aux économies surtout tant que le nombre d'adhérents > n'augmente pas et même diminue. Il y a pas mal d'exemples aussi où des associations (ou entreprises) sont mortes à force de rogner sur les services en voulant faire des économies. À force de tout dématérialiser, j'ai peur qu'on ne perde la relation forte entre GUTenberg et ses membres. -- Jérémy JUST From - Tue Mar 9 18:20:39 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o29HKAE6013742 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 18:20:12 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E44940233 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 18:20:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (men13-4-82-240-63-63.fbx.proxad.net [82.240.63.63]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18A5894000E for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 18:20:06 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_aux_adh=E9rents_de_GUTenberg_et_=E0_que?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?lques_anciens_adh=E9rents?= From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pierre_Albar=E8de?= In-Reply-To: <20100309153131.0af47e63@norbert.jejust.fr> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 18:20:10 +0100 Message-Id: References: <201002271943.22460.yvon.henel@orange.fr> <4B897920.7030503@geo.hmg.inpg.fr> <36FBF99A-FEB3-447E-8649-3BF209DCD69D@orange.fr> <20100227213539.3ced0a9e@drums> <20100307162954.08c4b2a5@jejust.fr> <5CD85161-A8C9-4031-A174-4E75FB114A6C@univ-tours.fr> <20100309153131.0af47e63@norbert.jejust.fr> To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:20:12 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id o29HKAE6013742 J. J. > Il y a pas mal d'exemples aussi où des associations (ou entreprises) > sont mortes à force de rogner sur les services en voulant faire des > économies. Je pense pareil. Pierre Albarède From - Fri Mar 12 21:28:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp6-g21.free.fr (smtp6-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.6]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2CKSPBa097440 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:28:27 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtp6-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp6-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5865E08192; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:28:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from P1 (lns-bzn-48f-81-56-216-182.adsl.proxad.net [81.56.216.182]) by smtp6-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with SMTP id BE701E080DA; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:28:20 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:28:23 +0100 From: "=?us-ascii?B?R2HpdGFuIE1hcnJpcw==?=" To: "syracuse" , "gut" Subject: =?us-ascii?B?Rm9ydW0gZOlkaekg4CBBc3ltcHRvdGU=?= Message-ID: <201003122128227278925@marris.fr> X-mailer: Foxmail 6, 15, 201, 22 [cn] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100312-0, 12/03/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:28:28 +0100 (CET) Bonsoir un forum francophone dédié à Asymptote tente de se mettre en place : un lien (suffisamment visible je pense) a été ajouté ici : http://www.marris.org/asymptote/index.html Le forum a des objectifs modestes : - Olivier (OG) et moi (et peut-être Philippe s'il arrive à trouver des trous dans son emploi du temps de ministre :-)) tenterons d'aider ceux qui débutent avec Asymptote ; - On souhaite aussi proposer à ceux qui ont fait déjà (ou feront) de jolies figures avec Asymptote de venir en déposer, pour aider les autres ; - On aimerait aussi (mais cela se fera plus ou moins rapidement suivant le nombre de personnes qui proposeront de venir ajouter une pierre à l'édifice) créer les tutoriaux nécessaires pour expliquer un certain nombre de choses qu'il faut savoir à propos d'Asymptote et de ses extensions et que l'on ne trouve pas forcement dans le peu de documentation existante. C'est une tentative... ... à l'essai pendant quelques mois ... et puis on verra. Gaétan M. From - Mon Mar 15 19:36:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp136.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (smtp136.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [77.238.184.67]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with SMTP id o2FIaG5W074146 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:36:18 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: (qmail 85432 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2010 17:36:15 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ft74mUMIRxcyQ8xUUW8CLrBG4C41q2Pzxo4DKlFQzJIy/CcvEkMMXpJpKTD0voQBoVhl3kEQkA0zB2uV4m94wYCgx85qPJhbN6e1tjhNaOX3S0P38BqN9z1ehIN33YteHT65Gp+x838ReL2zPny/IOKCAKLQ2X38uTeKkNZcmcc= ; Received: from host-85-201-82-211.brutele.be (f_stre@85.201.82.211 with plain) by smtp136.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Mar 2010 17:36:15 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: gyXlymOswBB0b9KgMJwlewxoPQ-- X-YMail-OSG: hOJ5_OgVM1krKTwf9FohDJ1PCyzw2lQVaYD.yFiwJGgkrrZXVw8W6igGmc_2k62nZNaqwKCN.1J0T8Vhtu1f_p9tePu0KMzfnQ1mRgc3T6k7avZmnbyUrnWlsLXRWE9ve3bJFdcXWH6xGbuFChw6jzFMY1HXk3I6ROE1neuuqV.FtJLhUII0jeztej_5FuRQ9waTBoosW036AXQGbEbs6t8pVC32w5VdjWlagfP_TT.k9A-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4B9E700C.7080004@yahoo.fr> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:36:12 +0100 From: Frans User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut Subject: table des =?ISO-8859-1?Q?mati=E8re_de_partie?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Delayed for 01:00:02 by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 15 Mar 2010 19:36:18 +0100 (CET) Bonjour, j'essaye de redéfinir la commande \part pour y inclure une table des matière de la partie (avec minitoc). Le problème que j'ai, c'est que la commande \parttoc impose une nouvelle page (page de droite car document twoside). Est-il possible de redéfinir la place d'une table des matière de partie pour qu'elle se place à la suite du texte? Voici la définition de la commande \part redéfinie: \def\@part[#1]#2{% \ifnum \c@secnumdepth >-2\relax \refstepcounter{part}% \addcontentsline{toc}{part}{\thepart\hspace{1em}#1}% \else \addcontentsline{toc}{part}{#1}% \fi \markboth{}{}% \thispagestyle{empty}% \begin{center} \interlinepenalty \@M \normalfont {\huge \sffamily \bfseries \begin{tabular}{@{\qquad}c@{\qquad}} \hline \hline \raisebox{1.8ex}[0pt][0pt]{% \colorbox{white}{\phantom{j}\partname~\thepart\phantom{j}}% }\\% \hline \\[-1.2ex] #2\par\nobreak\\[.5ex] \hline \end{tabular} } \end{center}% \vskip 10\p@ \parttoc \@endpart% } Merci et bonne soirée, Frans From - Mon Mar 15 22:03:25 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.200]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2FL2k3j032915 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:02:47 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C2B09E83AC for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:02:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 19757-07 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:02:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.204]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0740A9E83DA for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:02:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from acces.univ-fcomte.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3DD03C2F60 for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:02:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (pla25-1-82-225-17-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.17.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by acces.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 813EC7C7B for ; Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:02:44 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B9EA070.90506@univ-fcomte.fr> Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:02:40 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?P=E9tiard_Fran=E7ois?= Reply-To: francois.petiard@univ-fcomte.fr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] table des =?ISO-8859-1?Q?mati=E8re_de_partie?= References: <4B9E700C.7080004@yahoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <4B9E700C.7080004@yahoo.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at univ-fcomte.fr X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:02:47 +0100 (CET) Le 15/03/2010 18:36, Frans a écrit : > Bonjour, > > j'essaye de redéfinir la commande \part pour y inclure une table des > matière de la partie (avec minitoc). Le problème que j'ai, c'est que la > commande \parttoc impose une nouvelle page (page de droite car document > twoside). Est-il possible de redéfinir la place d'une table des matière > de partie pour qu'elle se place à la suite du texte? > \renewcommand{\beforeparttoc}{\relax} François From - Wed Mar 17 11:34:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from mso1k193.u-3mrs.fr (mso1k193.u-3mrs.fr [195.221.207.193]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2HAY2VU011505 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:34:04 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApEBAPZMoEvD3dug/2dsb2JhbAAH1C2EdgQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,656,1262559600"; d="scan'208";a="38894929" Received: from aia04u00.u-3mrs.fr (HELO [10.13.3.2]) ([195.221.219.160]) by mso1k209.u-3mrs.fr with ESMTP; 17 Mar 2010 11:34:03 +0100 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Guilhem_Bourri=E9?= To: liste Gut Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: comma in formulae with mhchem package Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:34:03 +0100 Cc: mhchem@MartinHensel.de X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:34:04 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id o2HAY2VU011505 in complex composition minerals, coefficients are not integers, such as for a mica: \ce{(Si5,82Al2,18)O20(Fe$^{3+}$0,48Mn0,01Mg5,41Ti0,003) (OH)4(Ca0,03Na0,03K1,73)}, the commas are lost! Best regards, Guilhem Bourrié From - Wed Mar 17 11:58:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_ONLY, SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from net.univ-savoie.fr (net.univ-savoie.fr [193.48.120.75]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2HAvaWK024241 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:57:37 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from post.bourget.univ-savoie.fr (post.bourget.univ-savoie.fr [193.48.120.73]) by net.univ-savoie.fr (8.12.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id o2HAknkD009039 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:46:49 +0100 Received: from lmops-alpha.univ-savoie.fr (192-168-135-165.local.univ-savoie.fr [192.168.135.165]) by post.bourget.univ-savoie.fr (8.12.3/jtpda-5.4) with ESMTP id o2HAkoZC030402 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:46:50 +0100 Message-Id: <201003171046.o2HAkoZC030402@post.bourget.univ-savoie.fr> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:45:36 +0100 To: liste Gut From: Lionel Flandin Subject: Re: [gut] comma in formulae with mhchem package In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.33 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:57:37 +0100 (CET) Bonjour,

En anglais ce serait plutôt "5.82".

En tout cas il semble que dans ce pack on peut "protéger" le point (et la virgule) avec un "_"

\ce{(Si5_,82Al2,18)O20(Fe$^{3+}$0,48Mn0,01Mg5,41Ti0,003) (OH)4(Ca0,03Na0,03K1,73)},

\ce{(Si5_.82Al2,18)O20(Fe$^{3+}$0,48Mn0,01Mg5,41Ti0,003) (OH)4(Ca0,03Na0,03K1,73)},

Petite espace en trop ?


@ 11:34 17/03/2010, >>>Guilhem Bourrié<<< Wrote ------------------------:wq!


in complex composition minerals, coefficients are not integers, such 
as for a mica:

\ce{(Si5,82Al2,18)O20(Fe$^{3+}$0,48Mn0,01Mg5,41Ti0,003) (OH)4(Ca0,03Na0,03K1,73)},

the commas are lost!

Best regards,

Guilhem Bourrié
From - Wed Mar 17 13:01:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from mso1k193.u-3mrs.fr (mso1k193.u-3mrs.fr [195.221.207.193]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2HC1FLB079737 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:01:16 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApIBAONgoEvD3dug/2dsb2JhbAAHgT3TS4R2BIM2 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.49,657,1262559600"; d="scan'208,217";a="38913425" Received: from aia04u00.u-3mrs.fr (HELO [10.13.3.2]) ([195.221.219.160]) by mso1k209.u-3mrs.fr with ESMTP; 17 Mar 2010 13:01:15 +0100 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Guilhem_Bourri=E9?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: <201003171046.o2HAkoZC030402@post.bourget.univ-savoie.fr> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-609753967 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: [gut] comma in formulae with mhchem package Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:00:46 +0100 References: <201003171046.o2HAkoZC030402@post.bourget.univ-savoie.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:01:16 +0100 (CET) --Apple-Mail-1-609753967 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bonjour, merci beaucoup =E0 Lionel Flandin, =E7a marche bien, il n'y a pas de petite espace en trop, et en anglais, on obtient la m=EAme formule avec les points. (Mon texte =E9tait en fran=E7ais, mais j'ai pos=E9 la question en anglais = =E0=20=20 l'attention de l'auteur du package mhchem, Martin Hensel, comme il y=20=20 invite dans sa documentation.) Bien cordialement, Guilhem Bourri=E9 INRA G=E9ochimie des sols et des eaux Europ=F4le m=E9diterran=E9en de l'Arbois B=E2timent La=EBnnec BP 80 F 13545 Aix-en-Provence cedex 04 T=E9l.: +33 4 42 97 17 98 Fax : +33 4 42 90 85 17 Phone number has changed Le 17 mars 10 =E0 11:45, Lionel Flandin a =E9crit : > Bonjour, > > En anglais ce serait plut=F4t "5.82". > > En tout cas il semble que dans ce pack on peut "prot=E9ger" le point=20= =20 > (et la virgule) avec un "_" > > \ce{(Si5_,82Al2,18)O20(Fe$^{3+}$0,48Mn0,01Mg5,41Ti0,003)=20=20 > (OH)4(Ca0,03Na0,03K1,73)}, > > \ce{(Si5_.82Al2,18)O20(Fe$^{3+}$0,48Mn0,01Mg5,41Ti0,003)=20=20 > (OH)4(Ca0,03Na0,03K1,73)}, > > Petite espace en trop ? > > > @ 11:34 17/03/2010, >>>Guilhem Bourri=E9<<< Wrote=20=20 > ------------------------:wq! > > >> in complex composition minerals, coefficients are not integers, such >> as for a mica: >> >> \ce{(Si5,82Al2,18)O20(Fe$^{3+}$0,48Mn0,01Mg5,41Ti0,003)=20=20 >> (OH)4(Ca0,03Na0,03K1,73)}, >> >> the commas are lost! >> >> Best regards, >> >> Guilhem Bourri=E9 --Apple-Mail-1-609753967 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bonjour,

merci beauc= oup =E0 Lionel Flandin,

=E7a marche bien, il n'y a= pas de petite espace en trop,

et en anglais, on o= btient la m=EAme formule avec les points.
(Mon texte =E9tait en f= ran=E7ais, mais j'ai pos=E9 la question en anglais =E0 l'attention de l'aut= eur du package mhchem, Martin Hensel, comme il y invite dans sa documentati= on.)

Bien cordialement,


Guilhem Bourri=E9

INRA

G=E9ochimi= e des sols et des eaux

Europ= =F4le m=E9diterran=E9en de l'Arbois

B=E2timent La=EBnnec

BP = 80

F 13545 Aix-en-Provence ced= ex 04

T=E9l.: +33 4 42 97 17 9= 8 Fax : +33 4 42 90 85 17

Phone number has changed

 
Le 17 mars 10 =E0 11:45, Lionel Flandin a =E9crit :

Bonjour,

En anglais ce serait plut=F4t "5.82".

En to= ut cas il semble que dans ce pack on peut "prot=E9ger" le point (et la virg= ule) avec un "_"

\ce{(Si5_,82Al2,18)O20(Fe$^{3+}$0,48Mn0,01Mg5,41Ti= 0,003) (OH)4(Ca0,03Na0,03K1,73)},

\ce{(Si5_.82Al2,18)O20(Fe$^{3+}$0= ,48Mn0,01Mg5,41Ti0,003) (OH)4(Ca0,03Na0,03K1,73)},

Petite espace en= trop ?


@ 11:34 17/03/2010, >>>Guilhem Bourri=E9<&= lt;< Wrote ------------------------:wq!


in complex composit= ion minerals, coefficients are not integers, such 
as for a mica:=

\ce{(Si5,82Al2,18)O20(Fe$^{3+}$0,48Mn0,01Mg5,41Ti0,003) (OH)4(Ca0,= 03Na0,03K1,73)},

the commas are lost!

Best regards,

= Guilhem Bourri=E9

= --Apple-Mail-1-609753967-- From - Wed Mar 17 15:50:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2HEnagH071416 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:49:38 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NrtcY-0007Da-2O for gut@ens.fr; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:49:14 +0100 Received: from celsius02.unibw-hamburg.de ([139.11.215.121]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:49:14 +0100 Received: from giggzounet by celsius02.unibw-hamburg.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:49:14 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gut@ens.fr From: giggzounet Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Comment_modifier_le_style_de_la_table?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_des_mati=E8res_=3F?= Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:49:01 +0100 Lines: 9 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: celsius02.unibw-hamburg.de User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) X-Greylist: Delayed for 01:00:20 by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:49:38 +0100 (CET) Bonjour, je voudrais que ma table des matières tienne sur une page. Malheureusement j'ai une ligne qui dépasse sur la page suivante. Y a t'il un moyen "élégant" ou moins "élégant" pour "comprimer" la table des matières comme on peut faire avec un tableau ? Merci d'avance, Guillaume From - Wed Mar 17 16:23:45 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr (amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.2.202]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2HFNJ4Y091463 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:23:19 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr (tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.18.212]) by amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7/Configured by JE 21 07 2006) with ESMTP id o2HFNJGH000358 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:23:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA22E2F701D for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:23:18 +0100 (CET) X-UJF-AV: Scanned on tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr Received: from tibre3.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre3.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.24.147]) by tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4E4D2F701B for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:23:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from euclide.ujf-grenoble.fr (euclide.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.48.255.207]) by tibre3.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/SyS-1.10) with ESMTP id o2HFNGS4058739 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:23:18 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from thierry.bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr) Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:23:25 +0100 From: Thierry Bouche Organization: Institut Fourier X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <502090290.20100317162325@ujf-grenoble.fr> To: gut@ens.fr Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_Comment_modifier_le_style_de_la_table_des_mati=E8res_=3F?= In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:23:19 +0100 (CET) Bonjour, g> je voudrais que ma table des matières tienne sur une page. g> Malheureusement j'ai une ligne qui dépasse sur la page suivante. Y a g> t'il un moyen "élégant" ou moins "élégant" pour "comprimer" la table des g> matières comme on peut faire avec un tableau ? mettre quelque part dans le.toc \enlargethispage*{1cm} pour ce faire, comme c'est un fichier généré en cours de compil, la méthode recommandée est plutôt : \addtocontents{toc}{\protect\enlargethispage*{1cm}} From - Wed Mar 17 23:58:39 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2HMwFKV051417 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:58:16 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ns2Bp-00033e-JC for gut@ens.fr; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:58:13 +0100 Received: from c178118.adsl.hansenet.de ([213.39.178.118]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:58:13 +0100 Received: from giggzounet by c178118.adsl.hansenet.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:58:13 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gut@ens.fr From: giggz Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Comment_modifier_le_style_de_la?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_table_des_mati=E8res_=3F?= Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:58:58 +0100 Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <502090290.20100317162325@ujf-grenoble.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c178118.adsl.hansenet.de User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20091109) In-Reply-To: <502090290.20100317162325@ujf-grenoble.fr> X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:58:16 +0100 (CET) Thierry Bouche a écrit : > Bonjour, > > > g> je voudrais que ma table des matières tienne sur une page. > g> Malheureusement j'ai une ligne qui dépasse sur la page suivante. Y a > g> t'il un moyen "élégant" ou moins "élégant" pour "comprimer" la table des > g> matières comme on peut faire avec un tableau ? > > mettre quelque part dans le.toc > \enlargethispage*{1cm} > > pour ce faire, comme c'est un fichier généré en cours de compil, la > méthode recommandée est plutôt : > > \addtocontents{toc}{\protect\enlargethispage*{1cm}} > > merci bien! From - Thu Mar 18 10:30:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from di.ens.fr (di.ens.fr [129.199.99.1]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2I9TvYq010875 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:29:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (ccheval@localhost) by di.ens.fr (8.13.6/jb-1.1) id o2I9Tvgl004220 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:29:57 +0100 X-Envelope-To: X-Authentication-Warning: di.ens.fr: ccheval owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:29:57 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?C=E9line_Chevalier?= X-X-Sender: ccheval@di.ens.fr To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Comment modifier le style de la table des =?ISO-8859-1?Q?mati=E8res?= ? In-Reply-To: <502090290.20100317162325@ujf-grenoble.fr> Message-ID: References: <502090290.20100317162325@ujf-grenoble.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-947846813-1106148055-1268904597=:1270" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:29:57 +0100 (CET) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---947846813-1106148055-1268904597=:1270 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Bonjour, > g> je voudrais que ma table des matières tienne sur une page. > g> Malheureusement j'ai une ligne qui dépasse sur la page suivante. Y a > g> t'il un moyen "élégant" ou moins "élégant" pour "comprimer" la table des > g> matières comme on peut faire avec un tableau ? > > mettre quelque part dans le.toc > \enlargethispage*{1cm} > > pour ce faire, comme c'est un fichier généré en cours de compil, la > méthode recommandée est plutôt : > > \addtocontents{toc}{\protect\enlargethispage*{1cm}} 1 cm c'est violent quand même, ça va se voir que la page dépasse... Sinon, pour garder la même hauteur de page et resserrer la table des matières, la méthode est la même. Devant chaque \section du document (ou \chapter, enfin adapter en fonction de l'endroit de la table des matières qu'on veut resserrer): \addtocontents{toc}{\protect\vspace*{-1mm}} Si une seule ligne dépasse, gagner ainsi de 3 à 5mm devrait suffire à la faire remonter. Céline ---947846813-1106148055-1268904597=:1270-- From - Thu Mar 18 13:19:37 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from mail-gw1.york.ac.uk (mail-gw1.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.246]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2ICJBGM013054 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:19:12 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from mail-gw6.york.ac.uk (mail-gw6.york.ac.uk [144.32.129.26]) by mail-gw1.york.ac.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o2ICJ7u8000387 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 12:19:07 GMT Received: from unix0.york.ac.uk ([144.32.196.246]) by mail-gw6.york.ac.uk with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1NsEgt-0003Ry-DJ for gut@ens.fr; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 12:19:07 +0000 Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 12:19:07 +0000 (GMT) From: Patrick Dupre To: Liste Gutenberg Subject: xfig Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-1903590565-1268914747=:29016" X-York-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-York-MailScanner-From: pd520@york.ac.uk X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:19:12 +0100 (CET) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---559023410-1903590565-1268914747=:29016 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Bonjour, J'ai un dessin fait avec xfig. je genere un ps file (fig2ps). Avec gv je peux de voir, si j'utilse bbox, tout est parfait, mais si j'imprime, ou que je fait un ps2pdf, ce n'est pas la bbox qui est utilisee mais letter semble-t'il, donc ce n'est pas bon. Comment je peux remedier a ce probleme ? Merci. --=20 --- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Patrick DUPR=C3=89 | | Department of Chemistry | | Phone: (44)-(0)-1904-434384 The University of York | | Fax: (44)-(0)-1904-432516 Heslington | | York YO10 5DD United Kingdom | | email: pd520@york.ac.uk =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ---559023410-1903590565-1268914747=:29016-- From - Thu Mar 18 15:02:28 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.1]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2IE1vtG059047 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:01:59 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8045C9401C4 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:01:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from [IPv6:::1] (men13-4-82-240-63-63.fbx.proxad.net [82.240.63.63]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8252B940167 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:01:53 +0100 (CET) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Subject: Re: [gut] xfig From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pierre_Albar=E8de?= In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:01:55 +0100 Message-Id: <41D912D2-6781-4A78-B1F9-D72245E3942D@free.fr> References: To: gut@ens.fr X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:02:00 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id o2IE1vtG059047 Bonjour, > Avec gv je peux de voir, si j'utilse bbox, tout est parfait, mais si > j'imprime, ou que je fait un ps2pdf, ce n'est pas la bbox qui est utilisee > mais letter semble-t'il, donc ce n'est pas bon. S'il y a une bbox, c'est plutôt un postscript encapsulé, destiné à être inséré dans un texte (avec \includegraphics) et non à être imprimé directement. Essayez plutôt de tout faire en pdf, ça sera + costaud. Pierre Albarède From - Thu Mar 18 15:06:55 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from amazone1.ujf-grenoble.fr (amazone1.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.254]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2IE6Rxf061588 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:06:27 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from tana3.ujf-grenoble.fr (tana3.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.18.201]) by amazone1.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7/Configured by JE 21 07 2006) with ESMTP id o2IE6Rgx023531 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:06:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by tana3.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5993A5C0B for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:06:27 +0100 (CET) X-UJF-AV: Scanned on tana3.ujf-grenoble.fr Received: from tibre2.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre2.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.24.10]) by tana3.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259B85C09 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:06:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from euclide.ujf-grenoble.fr (euclide.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.48.255.207]) by tibre2.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/SyS-1.10) with ESMTP id o2IE67HZ043403 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:06:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from thierry.bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:05:59 +0100 From: Thierry Bouche Organization: Institut Fourier X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1441681224.20100318150559@ujf-grenoble.fr> To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] xfig In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:06:27 +0100 (CET) P> j'imprime, ou que je fait un ps2pdf, ce n'est pas la bbox qui est utilisee P> mais letter semble-t'il, donc ce n'est pas bon. epstopdf. Thierry From - Thu Mar 18 16:25:14 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from mail-gw2.york.ac.uk (mail-gw2.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.247]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2IFOmJw099994 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:24:49 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from mail-gw7.york.ac.uk (mail-gw7.york.ac.uk [144.32.129.30]) by mail-gw2.york.ac.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o2IEJbJx002884 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:19:37 GMT Received: from unix0.york.ac.uk ([144.32.196.246]) by mail-gw7.york.ac.uk with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1NsGZV-0004fH-MT for gut@ens.fr; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:19:37 +0000 Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:19:37 +0000 (GMT) From: Patrick Dupre To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] xfig In-Reply-To: <41D912D2-6781-4A78-B1F9-D72245E3942D@free.fr> Message-ID: References: <41D912D2-6781-4A78-B1F9-D72245E3942D@free.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-126398554-1268921977=:29016" X-York-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-York-MailScanner-From: pd520@york.ac.uk X-Greylist: Delayed for 01:05:08 by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:24:49 +0100 (CET) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---559023410-126398554-1268921977=:29016 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE fig2pdf resout le probleme > >> Avec gv je peux de voir, si j'utilse bbox, tout est parfait, mais si >> j'imprime, ou que je fait un ps2pdf, ce n'est pas la bbox qui est utilis= ee >> mais letter semble-t'il, donc ce n'est pas bon. > > S'il y a une bbox, c'est plut=F4t un postscript encapsul=E9, destin=E9 = =E0 =EAtre ins=E9r=E9 dans un texte (avec \includegraphics) et non =E0 =EAt= re imprim=E9 directement. > Essayez plut=F4t de tout faire en pdf, =E7a sera + costaud. > > > Pierre Albar=E8de > > > --=20 --- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Patrick DUPR=C3=89 | | Department of Chemistry | | Phone: (44)-(0)-1904-434384 The University of York | | Fax: (44)-(0)-1904-432516 Heslington | | York YO10 5DD United Kingdom | | email: pd520@york.ac.uk =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ---559023410-126398554-1268921977=:29016-- From - Thu Mar 18 16:33:41 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr (amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.2.202]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2IFXG9U004297 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:33:16 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from tana4.ujf-grenoble.fr (tana4.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.24.148]) by amazone2.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7/Configured by JE 21 07 2006) with ESMTP id o2IFXG6l070971 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:33:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by tana4.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D3D52E029 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:33:16 +0100 (CET) X-UJF-AV: Scanned on tana4.ujf-grenoble.fr Received: from tibre3.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre3.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.24.147]) by tana4.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F1D2E01B for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:33:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from euclide.ujf-grenoble.fr (euclide.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.48.255.207]) by tibre3.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/SyS-1.10) with ESMTP id o2IFXDCQ094582 for ; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:33:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from thierry.bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr) Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:33:10 +0100 From: Thierry Bouche Organization: Institut Fourier X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <972939375.20100318163310@ujf-grenoble.fr> To: gut@ens.fr Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_Comment_modifier_le_style_de_la_table_des_mati=E8res_=3F?= In-Reply-To: References: <502090290.20100317162325@ujf-grenoble.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:33:16 +0100 (CET) Bonjour, Le jeudi 18 mars 2010, vers 10:29:57, Céline Chevalier écrivit : >> \addtocontents{toc}{\protect\enlargethispage*{1cm}} C> 1 cm c'est violent quand même, ça va se voir que la page dépasse... non, car il s'agit de rentrer une seule ligne. Évidemment, si on s'amuse à mettre ce code un peu partout on va finir par avoir des débordements... (j'avais donné ça à quelqu'un il y a quelque temps, avec 10 cm, et à force de s'en servir quand c'était inutile, on a vu le plancher s'effondrer !) ce que fait enlargethispage, c'est allonger la zone de texte, mais attention, avec l'astérisque, ça l'allonge tout en réduisant les ressorts au max. Donc, pour compresser une page (qui se termine par un \clearpage et non par un \pagebreak), \enlargethispage*{1cm} est efficace. Dans le cas considéré \enlargethispage*{\baselineskip} devrait avoir le même effet ! Thierry From - Fri Mar 19 09:53:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from di.ens.fr (di.ens.fr [129.199.99.1]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2J8r7TK012895 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:53:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (ccheval@localhost) by di.ens.fr (8.13.6/jb-1.1) id o2J8r7tF013682 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:53:07 +0100 X-Envelope-To: X-Authentication-Warning: di.ens.fr: ccheval owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:53:07 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?C=E9line_Chevalier?= X-X-Sender: ccheval@di.ens.fr To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Comment modifier le style de la table des =?ISO-8859-1?Q?mati=E8res?= ? In-Reply-To: <972939375.20100318163310@ujf-grenoble.fr> Message-ID: References: <502090290.20100317162325@ujf-grenoble.fr> <972939375.20100318163310@ujf-grenoble.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-947846813-1379038672-1268988787=:11321" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:53:07 +0100 (CET) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---947846813-1379038672-1268988787=:11321 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Bonjour, > ce que fait enlargethispage, c'est allonger la zone de texte, mais > attention, avec l'astérisque, ça l'allonge tout en réduisant les > ressorts au max. Donc, pour compresser une page (qui se termine par un Autant pour moi, je n'avais pas vu l'asterisque. Dans ce cas en effet, pas de danger. > \clearpage et non par un \pagebreak), \enlargethispage*{1cm} est > efficace. Dans le cas considéré \enlargethispage*{\baselineskip} > devrait avoir le même effet ! Tout a fait. Je continue a preferer de serrer une page pour conserver l'alignement des bas de page, mais c'est une question de gout :-) Celine ---947846813-1379038672-1268988787=:11321-- From - Fri Mar 19 16:29:38 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.2 required=5.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtpin.insa-rouen.fr (smtpin.insa-rouen.fr [193.49.10.113]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2JFTDfH053897 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:29:15 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtpout.insa-rouen.fr (smtpout.insa-rouen.fr [193.49.10.114]) by smtpin.insa-rouen.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2JFTFox020608 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:29:15 +0100 Received: from sympa.litislab.fr (litismail.insa-rouen.fr [194.254.17.16]) by smtpout.insa-rouen.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2JFTFvo002549 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:29:15 +0100 Received: from [192.168.20.135] (p-geii4.intranet.psi [192.168.20.135]) by sympa.litislab.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DDE61A42FC for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:29:13 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4BA3984B.40107@univ-rouen.fr> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:29:15 +0100 From: Sebastien Kramm Reply-To: sebastien.kramm@univ-rouen.fr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Beamer : =?ISO-8859-1?Q?probl=E8me_de_num=E9ro_de_page/f?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?rame?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:29:15 +0100 (CET) Bonjour, J'ai un petit problème avec un cours en Beamer, compilé via pdftex, avec sections et animations. Sur une page, je fais référence à une autre page avec \ref, et ceci me donne un résultat incohérent. Concretement, à la page (page "pdf") 54/66, qui porte le numéro 39/50, je fais référence à la "frame" 34/50 (page "pdf" 48/66) (à laquelle j'ai bien sûr attaché le bon \label), et je veux afficher "voir page 34". Or, \ref m'affiche "3" (tandis que \pageref m'affiche bien 48, mais ça n'est pas ce que je veut). Un petit essai sur 4-5 frames semble pourtant fonctionner. Je suspecte donc un bug quelque part dans mon source, mais je n'ai rien décelé dans le log. Quelqu'un aurait une piste, pour savoir ou chercher ? J'ai bien sur essayé de déplacer le \ref{}, il m'affiche toujours "3" quelque soit la diapo ou je le place. Et bizzarement, la page en question se trouve dans la section 3... Y aurait-il confusion entre numérotation de frame et de section ? Comment vérifier ça ? Merci d'avance. From - Fri Mar 19 16:36:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.200]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2JFaQ02058589 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:36:28 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F5469E8395 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:36:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 08013-02-2 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:36:25 +0100 (CET) Received: from ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.204]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF1FA9E833C for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:36:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from acces.univ-fcomte.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B73E93C2E96 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:36:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (pla25-1-82-225-17-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.17.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by acces.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A18B7C7B for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:36:23 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4BA399F2.3020102@univ-fcomte.fr> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:36:18 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?P=E9tiard_Fran=E7ois?= Reply-To: liste Gut User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: liste Gut Subject: Re: [gut] Beamer : =?ISO-8859-1?Q?probl=E8me_de_num=E9ro_d?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?e_page/frame?= References: <4BA3984B.40107@univ-rouen.fr> In-Reply-To: <4BA3984B.40107@univ-rouen.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at univ-fcomte.fr X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:36:28 +0100 (CET) Le 19/03/2010 16:29, Sebastien Kramm a écrit : > Bonjour, > > J'ai un petit problème avec un cours en Beamer, compilé via pdftex, avec > sections et animations. Sur une page, je fais référence à une autre page > avec \ref, et ceci me donne un résultat incohérent. > > Concretement, à la page (page "pdf") 54/66, qui porte le numéro 39/50, > je fais référence à la "frame" 34/50 (page "pdf" 48/66) (à laquelle j'ai > bien sûr attaché le bon \label), et je veux afficher "voir page 34". > > Or, \ref m'affiche "3" (tandis que \pageref m'affiche bien 48, mais ça > n'est pas ce que je veut). > > Un petit essai sur 4-5 frames semble pourtant fonctionner. Je suspecte > donc un bug quelque part dans mon source, mais je n'ai rien décelé dans > le log. > > Quelqu'un aurait une piste, pour savoir ou chercher ? J'ai bien sur > essayé de déplacer le \ref{}, il m'affiche toujours "3" quelque soit la > diapo ou je le place. > Et bizzarement, la page en question se trouve dans la section 3... Y > aurait-il confusion entre numérotation de frame et de section ? Comment > vérifier ça ? > > Merci d'avance. > > > Si vous voulez le numéro de page, pourquoi n'utilisez-vous pas \pageref ? François From - Mon Mar 22 10:39:31 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.2 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_NEUTRAL,SPF_NEUTRAL autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from osiris.univ-rouen.fr (osiris.univ-rouen.fr [193.52.144.35]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2M9d1Yc015184 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:39:03 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by osiris.univ-rouen.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB56436C10E for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:39:19 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at univ-rouen.fr Received: from [192.168.182.91] (aigrette.univ-rouen.fr [192.168.182.91]) by osiris.univ-rouen.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87D8D36C0F6; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:39:13 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4BA73AEB.6020304@univ-rouen.fr> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:39:55 +0100 From: Sebastien Kramm User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: liste Gut Subject: Re: [gut] Beamer : =?ISO-8859-1?Q?probl=E8me_de_num=E9ro_d?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?e_page/frame?= References: <4BA3984B.40107@univ-rouen.fr> <4BA399F2.3020102@univ-fcomte.fr> In-Reply-To: <4BA399F2.3020102@univ-fcomte.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:39:03 +0100 (CET) Bonjour, Pétiard François a écrit : > Le 19/03/2010 16:29, Sebastien Kramm a écrit : >> J'ai un petit problème avec un cours en Beamer, compilé via pdftex, avec >> sections et animations. Sur une page, je fais référence à une autre page >> avec \ref, et ceci me donne un résultat incohérent. >> Concretement, à la page (page "pdf") 54/66, qui porte le numéro 39/50, >> je fais référence à la "frame" 34/50 (page "pdf" 48/66) (à laquelle j'ai >> bien sûr attaché le bon \label), et je veux afficher "voir page 34". > Si vous voulez le numéro de page, pourquoi n'utilisez-vous pas > \pageref ? Parce que \pageref me donne le numéro de la page du fichier pdf. Moi, je voudrais avoir le numéro qui est inscrit dans le pied de page du document. Comme il y a des animations (\pause), ces 2 numéros ne sont pas les mêmes (un cours de 40 pages sera sur un pdf de 60 pages, par exemple.) From - Mon Mar 22 10:44:43 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.200]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2M9iGQR018234 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:44:17 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2839B9E883C for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:44:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16585-08 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:44:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.204]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2410E9E835B for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:44:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from acces.univ-fcomte.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0DD3C2CFE for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:44:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (pla25-1-82-225-17-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.17.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by acces.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A7057C7B for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:44:14 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4BA73BE8.3080704@univ-fcomte.fr> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:44:08 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?P=E9tiard_Fran=E7ois?= Reply-To: liste Gut User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: liste Gut Subject: Re: [gut] Beamer : =?ISO-8859-1?Q?probl=E8me_de_num=E9ro_d?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?e_page/frame?= References: <4BA3984B.40107@univ-rouen.fr> <4BA399F2.3020102@univ-fcomte.fr> In-Reply-To: <4BA399F2.3020102@univ-fcomte.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at univ-fcomte.fr X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 22 Mar 2010 10:44:17 +0100 (CET) Le 19/03/2010 16:36, Pétiard François a écrit : >> > > Si vous voulez le numéro de page, pourquoi n'utilisez-vous pas > \pageref ? > Désolé, j'ai lu trop vite. Quel est votre préambule ? François -- francois.petiard@univ-fcomte.fr From - Mon Mar 22 14:59:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.2 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_NEUTRAL,SPF_NEUTRAL autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from osiris.univ-rouen.fr (osiris.univ-rouen.fr [193.52.144.35]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2MDx15r031738 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:59:03 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by osiris.univ-rouen.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C41D36C1CA for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:59:20 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at univ-rouen.fr Received: from [172.16.234.249] (Wifi-Prof.univ-rouen.fr [193.52.145.246]) by osiris.univ-rouen.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3BFF36C1D9 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:59:14 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4BA7779E.2060903@univ-rouen.fr> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:58:54 +0100 From: Sebastien Kramm Reply-To: sebastien.kramm@univ-rouen.fr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: liste Gut Subject: Re: [gut] Beamer : =?ISO-8859-1?Q?probl=E8me_de_num=E9ro_d?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?e_page/frame?= References: <4BA3984B.40107@univ-rouen.fr> <4BA399F2.3020102@univ-fcomte.fr> <4BA73BE8.3080704@univ-fcomte.fr> In-Reply-To: <4BA73BE8.3080704@univ-fcomte.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:59:03 +0100 (CET) Pétiard François a écrit : > Le 19/03/2010 16:36, Pétiard François a écrit : > Désolé, j'ai lu trop vite. Pas de quoi. > Quel est votre préambule ? Ci-dessous. Après d'autres vérifications, je ne comprend toujours pas. J'ai fait un petit ECM, qui lui, fonctionne correctement! Et dans mon cours, j'ai bien mis le \label{} juste à la suite de \begin{frame}... \documentclass{beamer} \usetheme{Madrid} \setbeamersize{text margin left=5mm} \setbeamersize{text margin right=5mm} \usepackage[french]{babel} \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc} %\usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \usepackage{amsmath} \usepackage{graphicx} \usepackage{tikz} \usepackage{fancybox} %**************************************** % To place stuff on slide %\usepackage[showboxes]{textpos} \usepackage[absolute, overlay]{textpos} \setlength{\TPHorizModule}{10mm} \setlength{\TPVertModule}{\TPHorizModule} \textblockorigin{0mm}{0mm} % start everything near the top-left corner %**************************************** % pour avoir le symbole symbole EURO avec {\euro} \def\euro{\mbox{\raisebox{.25ex}{{\it =}}\hspace{-.5em}{\sf C}}} \usepackage{listings} \lstset{ % general style for listings numbers=none , language=C++ , showlines=true , showstringspaces=false , keywordstyle=\bfseries , tabsize=2 , frame=single , breaklines=true , basicstyle=\tt \scriptsize , numberstyle=\tiny\ttfamily , framexleftmargin=2mm , backgroundcolor=\color{white} , xleftmargin=2mm %, frameround={tttt} , captionpos=b } \setbeamertemplate{navigation symbols}{} % chose only one of these two: %\setbeamercovered{transparent} \setbeamercovered{invisible} \AtBeginSection[] % to add a summary at beginning of each section { \begin{frame} \frametitle{Sommaire} \tableofcontents[currentsection] \end{frame} } \author[S. Kramm]{{\tt sebastien.kramm@univ-rouen.fr}} \logo{\includegraphics[width=1cm]{../logo_xxx_200.png}}% my logo on each slide \title[S2 - II2]{Transmissions de données en série\\ et mise en \oe uvre sur le 9s12} \date{2009-2010} %----------------------------------------------- \begin{document} ... From - Mon Mar 22 16:18:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from mail-gw1.york.ac.uk (mail-gw1.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.246]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2MFIMSO066575 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:18:24 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from mail-gw7.york.ac.uk (mail-gw7.york.ac.uk [144.32.129.30]) by mail-gw1.york.ac.uk (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o2MFIFcJ029940 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:18:15 GMT Received: from unix0.york.ac.uk ([144.32.196.246]) by mail-gw7.york.ac.uk with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1NtjOR-0002jl-J4 for gut@ens.fr; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:18:15 +0000 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:18:15 +0000 (GMT) From: Patrick Dupre To: Liste Gutenberg Subject: revtex4 et setspace Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-126398554-1269271095=:20215" X-York-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-York-MailScanner-From: pd520@york.ac.uk X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:18:24 +0100 (CET) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---559023410-126398554-1269271095=:20215 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Bonjour, J'ai un probleme de compatibilite entre revtex4 et setspace setstrech{} Par exemple, ceci ne passe pas: \documentclass[11pt,american,aps,manuscript]{revtex4}%{}article} \usepackage{setspace} \setstretch{0.9} \begin{document} \end{document} (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/setspace/setspace.sty Package: `setspace' 6.7 <2000/12/01> ) ! Undefined control sequence. \setstretch ...ef \baselinestretch {#1}\@currsize l.3 \setstretch{0.9} ? x Est-ce qu'il y a une alternative a setspace ? Merci. --=20 --- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Patrick DUPR=C3=89 | | Department of Chemistry | | Phone: (44)-(0)-1904-434384 The University of York | | Fax: (44)-(0)-1904-432516 Heslington | | York YO10 5DD United Kingdom | | email: pd520@york.ac.uk =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ---559023410-126398554-1269271095=:20215-- From - Tue Mar 23 03:33:52 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from mail-fx0-f213.google.com (mail-fx0-f213.google.com [209.85.220.213]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2N2XGUd074581 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 03:33:17 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: by fxm5 with SMTP id 5so2141889fxm.9 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:33:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=chL2XfpX74K0qDKdlr4cEUl1WNf2vo5MWIKYOQIBO0I=; b=L9d/rLHfrO58oDM9qUKN0gf/M2fb1KZk71sJEOuriAu3H43lbu7mpbQc7opibKJvkQ p42tkNAs0xNaw4r+bjTAvIrFWDt2CgdZUYooAGMkLAaN2HBR6Skol33MXSCIiAeYZskZ OFmhNF9WCdEXvySqVpjcx6fyyl0scDkMWxllQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=eYQ4fcondGuhauwuiXqmWrzgGgYRcKjgU4VxXvDC+KKl4LfVBAK5WScShK4YiyM3ij SStruB5xZ0mm7Ma7ZeDVTg2Q9fBwa5T/OI8QKVvo6q4YeCjEfJPwVq/676V1DZQ5mF8g wz8e1UAXqKhWKtStmoDsQi2G1SN17mhD1vWmA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.84.220 with SMTP id k28mr2029280bkl.70.1269311595709; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 19:33:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 22:33:15 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?num=E9rotation_thm=2Beq?= From: Olivier Guichard To: gut@ens.fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 23 Mar 2010 03:33:17 +0100 (CET) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id o2N2XGUd074581 Bonjour, je souhaiterais numéroter de la même manière les théorèmes et les équations dans un document. J'ai essayé ceci : *************************************** \documentclass{amsart} \newtheorem{thm}{Theorem}[section] \renewcommand*{\theequation}{\addtocounter{thm}{1}\thethm} \begin{document} \section{I} \begin{thm} Un theoreme. \end{thm} \begin{equation} \label{eq:1} x=y \end{equation} Mais une reference non voulue \ref{eq:1}. \end{document} ******************************** L'équation apparaît bien avec le numéro attendu mais il y a un décalage dans la référence. Quelle serait la bonne manière de procéder ? Merci. Bien à tous, Olivier From - Tue Mar 23 06:55:29 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from di.ens.fr (di.ens.fr [129.199.99.1]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2N5t3fT015790 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 06:55:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (ccheval@localhost) by di.ens.fr (8.13.6/jb-1.1) id o2N5t2Hk003837 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 06:55:02 +0100 X-Envelope-To: X-Authentication-Warning: di.ens.fr: ccheval owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 06:55:02 +0100 (CET) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?C=E9line_Chevalier?= X-X-Sender: ccheval@di.ens.fr To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?num=E9rotation?= thm+eq In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-947846813-890078140-1269323702=:3750" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-milter (http://amavis.org/) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 23 Mar 2010 06:55:03 +0100 (CET) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---947846813-890078140-1269323702=:3750 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Bonjour, Non testé: remplacer \adtocouncter{thm}{1} par \refstepcounter{thm}, ça devrait prendre en compte les références. Céline On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, Olivier Guichard wrote: > Bonjour, > > je souhaiterais numéroter de la même manière les théorèmes et les > équations dans un document. > > J'ai essayé ceci : > > > *************************************** > \documentclass{amsart} > > \newtheorem{thm}{Theorem}[section] > \renewcommand*{\theequation}{\addtocounter{thm}{1}\thethm} > > \begin{document} > \section{I} > > \begin{thm} > Un theoreme. > \end{thm} > > \begin{equation} > \label{eq:1} > x=y > \end{equation} > > Mais une reference non voulue \ref{eq:1}. > > \end{document} > ******************************** > > L'équation apparaît bien avec le numéro attendu mais il y a un > décalage dans la référence. > > Quelle serait la bonne manière de procéder ? > > Merci. > > Bien à tous, > Olivier > ---947846813-890078140-1269323702=:3750-- From - Tue Mar 23 07:22:48 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.200]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2N6MMVL021680 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 07:22:23 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87CCD9E8437 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 07:22:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 18666-09 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 07:22:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.204]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 779339E8409 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 07:22:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from acces.univ-fcomte.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FF373C2D3A for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 07:22:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (pla25-1-82-225-17-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.17.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by acces.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 207B07C7B for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 07:22:21 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4BA85E1B.5060705@univ-fcomte.fr> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 07:22:19 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?P=E9tiard_Fran=E7ois?= Reply-To: liste Gut User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?num=E9rotation_thm+eq?= References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at univ-fcomte.fr X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 23 Mar 2010 07:22:24 +0100 (CET) Le 23/03/2010 03:33, Olivier Guichard a écrit : > Bonjour, > > je souhaiterais numéroter de la même manière les théorèmes et les > équations dans un document. > > J'ai essayé ceci : > > > *************************************** > \documentclass{amsart} > > \newtheorem{thm}{Theorem}[section] > \renewcommand*{\theequation}{\addtocounter{thm}{1}\thethm} > > \begin{document} > \section{I} > > \begin{thm} > Un theoreme. > \end{thm} > > \begin{equation} > \label{eq:1} > x=y > \end{equation} > > Mais une reference non voulue \ref{eq:1}. > > \end{document} > ******************************** > Ça ne va pas marcher car, à chaque fois que vous allez écrire \ref{}, cela va encore incrémenter le compteur thm. Voilà une solution : %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% \documentclass{amsart} \newtheorem{thm}{Theorem}[section] \newenvironment{montheoreme}{\refstepcounter{equation}\begin{thm}} {\end{thm}} \newenvironment{monequation}{\refstepcounter{thm}\begin{equation}} {\end{equation}} \begin{document} \section{I} \begin{montheoreme}\label{th:1} Un theoreme. \end{montheoreme} \begin{monequation} \label{eq:1} x=y \end{monequation} Et deux references voulues : \ref{th:1} et \ref{eq:1}. \begin{montheoreme}\label{th:2} Un theoreme. \end{montheoreme} \begin{monequation} \label{eq:2} x=y \end{monequation} Et deux references voulues : \ref{th:2} et \ref{eq:2}. \end{document} %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% François -- francois.petiard@univ-fcomte.fr From - Tue Mar 23 13:28:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from ams.org (mail01.ams.org [130.44.1.106]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2NCS5jd084543 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:28:07 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from snort.ams.org (snort.ams.org [130.44.1.28]) by ams.org (Switch-3.2.5/Switch-3.2.5) with ESMTP id o2NCS4pi010641 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 23 Mar 2010 08:28:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from snort.ams.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by snort.ams.org (8.13.8/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o2NCS31D029924; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 08:28:04 -0400 Received: from localhost (bnb@localhost) by snort.ams.org (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) with ESMTP id o2NCS3ut029921; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 08:28:03 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: snort.ams.org: bnb owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 08:28:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Barbara Beeton Sender: bnb@ams.org To: Olivier Guichard cc: gut@ens.fr Subject: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Re=3A_=5Bgut=5D_num=E9rotation_thm+eq?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (LRH 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="746724353-447203828-1269347283=:28744" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.57 on 130.44.1.106 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:28:07 +0100 (CET) This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --746724353-447203828-1269347283=:28744 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT dear olivier, please excuse my replying in english, also the fact that my mailer has possibly mangled the accented letters in french ... je souhaiterais numéroter de la même manière les théorèmes et les équations dans un document. J'ai essayé ceci : *************************************** \documentclass{amsart} \newtheorem{thm}{Theorem}[section] \renewcommand*{\theequation}{\addtocounter{thm}{1}\thethm} this will work: \numberwithin{equation}{section} \newtheorem{thm}[equation]{Theorem} please see below. \begin{document} \section{I} \begin{thm} Un theoreme. \end{thm} \begin{equation} \label{eq:1} x=y \end{equation} Mais une reference non voulue \ref{eq:1}. \end{document} ******************************** L'équation apparaît bien avec le numéro attendu mais il y a un décalage dans la référence. in the ams author faq http://www.ams.org/authors/author-faq.html there is a question Please explain the fine points of theorem and equation numbering. that covers this and other variations. (the author faq will, within the next month, be transferred to a database, so a different url will be preferred; the new database will include material from other areas of the ams, but the ability to search should be improved.) if you have other questions regarding the ams document classes and packages, and cannot find the answers in the author faq or the user documentation, linked from http://www.ams.org/tex/amslatex.html please feel free to ask at tech-support@ams.org -- bb --746724353-447203828-1269347283=:28744-- From - Tue Mar 23 14:07:38 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.2 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_NEUTRAL,SPF_NEUTRAL autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from osiris.univ-rouen.fr (osiris.univ-rouen.fr [193.52.144.35]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2ND78Ce003839 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:07:10 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by osiris.univ-rouen.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A8E436C208 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:07:27 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at univ-rouen.fr Received: from [172.16.234.249] (Wifi-Prof.univ-rouen.fr [193.52.145.246]) by osiris.univ-rouen.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8057736C03B for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:06:50 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4BA8BCD6.7010305@univ-rouen.fr> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:06:30 +0100 From: Sebastien Kramm Reply-To: sebastien.kramm@univ-rouen.fr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: liste Gut Subject: Re: [gut] Beamer : =?ISO-8859-1?Q?probl=E8me_de_num=E9ro_d?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?e_page/frame?= References: <4BA3984B.40107@univ-rouen.fr> <4BA399F2.3020102@univ-fcomte.fr> <4BA73BE8.3080704@univ-fcomte.fr> <4BA7779E.2060903@univ-rouen.fr> <4BA7C450.3090900@univ-fcomte.fr> In-Reply-To: <4BA7C450.3090900@univ-fcomte.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:07:10 +0100 (CET) Pétiard François a écrit : > Vous pourriez fournir le log ? Bien volontier (59ko d'origine, j'ai coupé dans le gras au milieu, ci-dessous) En le survolant rapidement, je suis tombé sur ça: ------------------------------------- Package hyperref Warning: Option `pdfpagelabels' is turned off (hyperref) because \thepage is undefined. ------------------------------------- Est-ce que ça ne serait pas une piste ? (Pour moi, béotien, ça reste encore mystérieux). ========================================================== This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.9 (MiKTeX 2.7) (preloaded format=pdflatex 2009.12.8) 23 MAR 2010 13:55 entering extended mode **D:/SK_saved/GEII/II2/2009/CM/transm_serie/Kramm_II2_serie_B.tex (D:/SK_saved/GEII/II2/2009/CM/transm_serie/Kramm_II2_serie_B.tex LaTeX2e <2005/12/01> Babel and hyphenation patterns for english, dumylang, nohyphenation, ge rman, ngerman, german-x-2009-06-19, ngerman-x-2009-06-19, french, loaded. 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Olivier From - Tue Mar 23 15:24:35 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.200]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2NEO9rA046243 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:24:11 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C979E845B for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:24:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 02793-04 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:24:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.204]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646ED9E8340 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:24:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from acces.univ-fcomte.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE8F3C2E24 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:24:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (pla25-1-82-225-17-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.17.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by acces.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id B939F7C7B for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:24:07 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4BA8CF06.8010807@univ-fcomte.fr> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:24:06 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?P=E9tiard_Fran=E7ois?= Reply-To: liste Gut User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: liste Gut Subject: Re: [gut] Beamer : =?ISO-8859-1?Q?probl=E8me_de_num=E9ro_d?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?e_page/frame?= References: <4BA3984B.40107@univ-rouen.fr> <4BA399F2.3020102@univ-fcomte.fr> <4BA73BE8.3080704@univ-fcomte.fr> <4BA7779E.2060903@univ-rouen.fr> <4BA7C450.3090900@univ-fcomte.fr> <4BA8BCD6.7010305@univ-rouen.fr> In-Reply-To: <4BA8BCD6.7010305@univ-rouen.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at univ-fcomte.fr X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:24:11 +0100 (CET) Le 23/03/2010 14:06, Sebastien Kramm a écrit : > Pétiard François a écrit : >> Vous pourriez fournir le log ? > > Bien volontier (59ko d'origine, j'ai coupé dans le gras au milieu, > ci-dessous) > > En le survolant rapidement, je suis tombé sur ça: > > ------------------------------------- Package hyperref Warning: > Option `pdfpagelabels' is turned off (hyperref) because \thepage is > undefined. ------------------------------------- > > Est-ce que ça ne serait pas une piste ? (Pour moi, béotien, ça reste > encore mystérieux). Non : j'ai essayé un ECM avec votre préambule. Cet ECM fonctionne et dans le log, j'ai le même warning. Pourriez-vous mettre à jour le package hyperref et recompiler deux fois? Avant de recompiler, ajoutez \listfiles au tout début de votre document et envoyez seulement la fin du log (qui commence par *File List*) François -- francois.petiard@univ-fcomte.fr From - Wed Mar 24 13:29:09 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from mx2.cnrs-dir.fr (mx.cnrs-dir.fr [193.55.76.239]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2OCSdpv020810 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:28:41 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.cnrs-dir.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C13455D079B for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:28:39 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cnrs-dir.fr Received: from mx2.cnrs-dir.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (leonV3.dmz.cnrs-dir.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AbHJzkEz-xDp for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:28:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.cnrs-dir.fr (cezanne.auteuil.cnrs-dir.fr [193.51.136.2]) by mx2.cnrs-dir.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F59E5D04B8 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:28:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (CGM300370.cma.cnrs-dir.fr [193.55.76.218]) by smtp.cnrs-dir.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CA9A2FE1B for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:28:38 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4BAA0576.20902@cnrs-dir.fr> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:28:38 +0100 From: Romain Vanel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: xetex - xelatex - time - grec. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:28:41 +0100 (CET) Bonjour à tous, à l'occasion de la préparation d'un recueil d'articles, nous avons choisi d'utiliser xetex (via xelatex) pour composer l'ouvrage. Ayant plus ou moins l'habitude de l'utiliser dans certains contextes (d'articles et de documents courts), je le découvre avec la classe book. J'aurais probablement plusieurs questions à poser à la liste, au fur et à mesure de la composition. Je vous remercie par avance de votre attention. Un première question concerne les caractères grecs. J'utilise souvent xelatex en grecque avec la fonte (magnifique !) Linux Libertine. Le rendu est toujours impeccable, l'utilisation aisée. Des problématiques éditoriales vont nous contraindre (très probablement) à l'utilisation d'une fonte Times. Connaissez-vous un moyen d'obtenir des glyphes grecs avec une police type Times, avec xelatex ? Les commandes \textgreek{XXXXX} de Latex ne sont en effet pas suffisantes pour le grecque ancien. Merci de votre aide. Romain Vanel From - Wed Mar 24 13:41:34 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.2 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_NEUTRAL,SPF_NEUTRAL autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from osiris.univ-rouen.fr (osiris.univ-rouen.fr [193.52.144.35]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2OCf5Ev033074 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:41:06 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by osiris.univ-rouen.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA29836C0EB for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:41:24 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at univ-rouen.fr Received: from [172.16.238.229] (Wifi-Prof.univ-rouen.fr [193.52.145.246]) by osiris.univ-rouen.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDFA136C21D for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:41:17 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4BAA085A.7000607@univ-rouen.fr> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:40:58 +0100 From: Sebastien Kramm Reply-To: sebastien.kramm@univ-rouen.fr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: liste Gut Subject: Re: [gut] Beamer : =?ISO-8859-1?Q?probl=E8me_de_num=E9ro_d?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?e_page/frame?= References: <4BA3984B.40107@univ-rouen.fr> <4BA399F2.3020102@univ-fcomte.fr> <4BA73BE8.3080704@univ-fcomte.fr> <4BA7779E.2060903@univ-rouen.fr> <4BA7C450.3090900@univ-fcomte.fr> <4BA8BCD6.7010305@univ-rouen.fr> <4BA8CF06.8010807@univ-fcomte.fr> In-Reply-To: <4BA8CF06.8010807@univ-fcomte.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:41:06 +0100 (CET) Pétiard François a écrit : > Le 23/03/2010 14:06, Sebastien Kramm a écrit : >> Est-ce que ça ne serait pas une piste ? (Pour moi, béotien, ça reste >> encore mystérieux). > > Non : j'ai essayé un ECM avec votre préambule. Cet ECM fonctionne et > dans le log, j'ai le même warning. Bon, oui, j'avais pas fait cet essai. Mais mon ECM avec 4 diapos fonctionne aussi, ce qui me faisait penser qu'il s'agissait d'un problème dans mon source. > Pourriez-vous mettre à jour le package hyperref et recompiler deux fois? > Avant de recompiler, ajoutez \listfiles au tout début de votre document > et envoyez seulement la fin du log (qui commence par *File List*) J'ai fait une MAJ globale de mon install MikTex (et des packages). J'avais la version hyperref du 2009-05-25 (date "packaged on", dixit Miktex 2.7), et maintenant, c'est 2010-03-12. Mais, après compilation x2, ... c'est pareil. 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PDF statistics: 701 PDF objects out of 1000 (max. 8388607) 147 named destinations out of 1000 (max. 131072) 420 words of extra memory for PDF output out of 10000 (max. 10000000) From - Wed Mar 24 13:58:49 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.200]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2OCwNLt040141 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:58:25 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC2F09E83AD for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:58:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17139-09 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:58:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.204]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB1669E833F for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:58:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from acces.univ-fcomte.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A26523C2E37 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:58:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (pla25-1-82-225-17-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.17.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by acces.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 181F07C7B for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:58:22 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4BAA0C69.3010000@univ-fcomte.fr> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:58:17 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?P=E9tiard_Fran=E7ois?= Reply-To: liste Gut User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Beamer : =?ISO-8859-1?Q?probl=E8me_de_num=E9ro_d?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?e_page/frame?= References: <4BA3984B.40107@univ-rouen.fr> <4BA399F2.3020102@univ-fcomte.fr> <4BA73BE8.3080704@univ-fcomte.fr> <4BA7779E.2060903@univ-rouen.fr> <4BA7C450.3090900@univ-fcomte.fr> <4BA8BCD6.7010305@univ-rouen.fr> <4BA8CF06.8010807@univ-fcomte.fr> <4BAA085A.7000607@univ-rouen.fr> In-Reply-To: <4BAA085A.7000607@univ-rouen.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at univ-fcomte.fr X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 24 Mar 2010 13:58:25 +0100 (CET) Le 24/03/2010 13:40, Sebastien Kramm a écrit : > Pétiard François a écrit : >> Le 23/03/2010 14:06, Sebastien Kramm a écrit : >>> Est-ce que ça ne serait pas une piste ? (Pour moi, béotien, ça reste >>> encore mystérieux). >> >> Non : j'ai essayé un ECM avec votre préambule. Cet ECM fonctionne et >> dans le log, j'ai le même warning. > > Bon, oui, j'avais pas fait cet essai. Mais mon ECM avec 4 diapos > fonctionne aussi, ce qui me faisait penser qu'il s'agissait d'un > problème dans mon source. > >> Pourriez-vous mettre à jour le package hyperref et recompiler deux fois? >> Avant de recompiler, ajoutez \listfiles au tout début de votre document >> et envoyez seulement la fin du log (qui commence par *File List*) > > J'ai fait une MAJ globale de mon install MikTex (et des packages). > J'avais la version hyperref du 2009-05-25 (date "packaged on", dixit > Miktex 2.7), et maintenant, c'est 2010-03-12. > Mais, après compilation x2, ... c'est pareil. > Ci-dessous le log après *File List*: Vous avez le même *File List* que moi donc, effectivement, le problème ne vient pas des packages, mais vraisemblablement de votre source. Mettez en commentaires le code avant votre le frame contenant le \label qui pose problème, compilez deux fois et regardez si le problème demeure. S'il n'y a plus de problème, enlevez petit à petit quelques commentaires (et compilez deux fois à chaque fois) jusqu'à ce que le problème réapparaisse. François From - Wed Mar 24 14:33:46 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp20.orange.fr (smtp20.orange.fr [80.12.242.26]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2ODXLW7055345 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:33:22 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2017.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id DD9A920027D5 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:32:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2017.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D0BA22002E42 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:32:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (AVelizy-153-1-46-18.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.249.93.18]) by mwinf2017.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4BA7F20027D5 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:32:45 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20100324133245310.4BA7F20027D5@mwinf2017.orange.fr Message-Id: <05886A51-B907-42A0-960A-1E62E8439954@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Fritz?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: <4BAA0576.20902@cnrs-dir.fr> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--927411564 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: [gut] xetex - xelatex - time - grec. Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:32:44 +0100 References: <4BAA0576.20902@cnrs-dir.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:33:22 +0100 (CET) --Apple-Mail-1--927411564 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le 24 mars 10 =E0 13:28, Romain Vanel a =E9crit : > > Bonjour =E0 tous, > > > =E0 l'occasion de la pr=E9paration d'un recueil d'articles, nous avons=20= =20 > choisi d'utiliser xetex (via xelatex) pour composer l'ouvrage. > Ayant plus ou moins l'habitude de l'utiliser dans certains contextes=20= =20 > (d'articles et de documents courts), je le d=E9couvre avec la classe=20= =20 > book. > J'aurais probablement plusieurs questions =E0 poser =E0 la liste, au fur= =20=20 > et =E0 mesure de la composition. Je vous remercie par avance de votre=20= =20 > attention. > > Un premi=E8re question concerne les caract=E8res grecs. > J'utilise souvent xelatex en grecque avec la fonte (magnifique !)=20=20 > Linux Libertine. Le rendu est toujours impeccable, l'utilisation=20=20 > ais=E9e. > Des probl=E9matiques =E9ditoriales vont nous contraindre (tr=E8s=20=20 > probablement) =E0 l'utilisation d'une fonte Times. Connaissez-vous un=20= =20 > moyen d'obtenir des glyphes grecs avec une police type Times, avec=20=20 > xelatex ? Il me semble que TeX Gyre Termes soit un bon choix. Voir le projet TeX=20= =20 Gyre : http://www.gust.org.pl/projects/e-foundry/tex-gyre/ > Les commandes \textgreek{XXXXX} de Latex ne sont en effet pas=20=20 > suffisantes pour le grecque ancien. > > Merci de votre aide. > > > Romain Vanel Ren=E9 FRITZ --Apple-Mail-1--927411564 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Le 24 mars 10 =E0 13:28, = Romain Vanel a =E9crit :


Bonjour =E0 tous,


=E0 l'occasion d= e la pr=E9paration d'un recueil d'articles, nous avons choisi d'utiliser xe= tex (via xelatex) pour composer l'ouvrage.
Ayant plus ou moins l'habitud= e de l'utiliser dans certains contextes (d'articles et de documents courts)= , je le d=E9couvre avec la classe book.
J'aurais probablement plusieurs = questions =E0 poser =E0 la liste, au fur et =E0 mesure de la composition. J= e vous remercie par avance de votre attention.

Un premi=E8re questio= n concerne les caract=E8res grecs.
J'utilise souvent xelatex en grecque = avec la fonte (magnifique !) Linux Libertine. Le rendu est toujours impecca= ble, l'utilisation ais=E9e.
Des probl=E9matiques =E9ditoriales vont nous= contraindre (tr=E8s probablement) =E0 l'utilisation d'une fonte Times. Con= naissez-vous un moyen d'obtenir des glyphes grecs avec une police type Time= s, avec xelatex  ?

Il me semble que&n= bsp;TeX Gyre Termes soit un bon choix. Voir le projet TeX Gyre : http://www.gust.= org.pl/projects/e-foundry/tex-gyre/

Les commandes \textgreek{XXXXX} de Latex ne sont en effet pas suffisant= es pour le grecque ancien.

Merci de votre aide.


Romain Va= nel

Ren=E9 FRITZ

--Apple-Mail-1--927411564-- From - Wed Mar 24 15:53:24 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.2 required=5.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtpin.insa-rouen.fr (smtpin.insa-rouen.fr [193.49.10.113]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2OEqtum090795 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:52:57 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtpout.insa-rouen.fr (smtpout.insa-rouen.fr [193.49.10.114]) by smtpin.insa-rouen.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2OEqvLb001068 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:52:57 +0100 Received: from sympa.litislab.fr (litismail.insa-rouen.fr [194.254.17.16]) by smtpout.insa-rouen.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o2OEqve3023974 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:52:57 +0100 Received: from [192.168.20.135] (p-geii4.intranet.psi [192.168.20.135]) by sympa.litislab.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AED951A4349 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:52:55 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4BAA2748.5090004@univ-rouen.fr> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:52:56 +0100 From: Sebastien Kramm Reply-To: sebastien.kramm@univ-rouen.fr User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: liste Gut Subject: Re: [gut] Beamer : =?ISO-8859-1?Q?probl=E8me_de_num=E9ro_d?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?e_page/frame?= References: <4BA3984B.40107@univ-rouen.fr> <4BA399F2.3020102@univ-fcomte.fr> <4BA73BE8.3080704@univ-fcomte.fr> <4BA7779E.2060903@univ-rouen.fr> <4BA7C450.3090900@univ-fcomte.fr> <4BA8BCD6.7010305@univ-rouen.fr> <4BA8CF06.8010807@univ-fcomte.fr> <4BAA085A.7000607@univ-rouen.fr> <4BAA0C69.3010000@univ-fcomte.fr> In-Reply-To: <4BAA0C69.3010000@univ-fcomte.fr> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080607040609080002050707" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:52:57 +0100 (CET) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080607040609080002050707 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Pétiard François a écrit : > Vous avez le même *File List* que moi donc, effectivement, le problème > ne vient pas des packages, mais vraisemblablement de votre source. > Mettez en commentaires le code avant votre le frame contenant le \label > qui pose problème, compilez deux fois et regardez si le problème demeure. Ca y est, après moultes éditions et paires de compilation pour isoler le problème, je l'ai enfin trouvé !!! C'est effectivement à voir avec les sections, et plus précisemment les \subsection. J'ai donc fait un ECM qui isole le problème (ci-dessous): 2 "frames", sur un document de 3 pages. Je joins la sortie pdf, on voit bien que le "ref" sur la "frame" 2 donne 1 au lieu de 2. Et si je commente le \subsection, là, c'est correct. Je ne comprends pas ce fonctionnement. Est-ce moi qui ne sait pas utiliser le \subsection ? Merci pour vos lumières. 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required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from mx2.cnrs-dir.fr (mx.cnrs-dir.fr [193.55.76.239]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2OG1EcG018671 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:01:15 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.cnrs-dir.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3BCD5D07B1 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:01:13 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cnrs-dir.fr Received: from mx2.cnrs-dir.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (leonV3.dmz.cnrs-dir.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yba76uY3p3gv for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:01:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.cnrs-dir.fr (cezanne.auteuil.cnrs-dir.fr [193.51.136.2]) by mx2.cnrs-dir.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988885D07B0 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:01:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (CGM300370.cma.cnrs-dir.fr [193.55.76.218]) by smtp.cnrs-dir.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 950AA2FE22 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:01:12 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4BAA3748.1050208@cnrs-dir.fr> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:01:12 +0100 From: Romain Vanel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] xetex - xelatex - time - grec. References: <4BAA0576.20902@cnrs-dir.fr> <05886A51-B907-42A0-960A-1E62E8439954@orange.fr> In-Reply-To: <05886A51-B907-42A0-960A-1E62E8439954@orange.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:01:15 +0100 (CET) Merci ! c'est un beau travail ! et cela fonctionne bien. Le site est une mine, je découvre des tonnes de fontes. Cependant, comme dit dans le readme de Ternes, "Greek glyphs bear provisional character." En effet, là non plus, tous ne sont pas supportés... J'ai de magnifiques trous dans mes textes. René Fritz a écrit : > > Le 24 mars 10 à 13:28, Romain Vanel a écrit : > >> >> Bonjour à tous, >> >> >> à l'occasion de la préparation d'un recueil d'articles, nous avons >> choisi d'utiliser xetex (via xelatex) pour composer l'ouvrage. >> Ayant plus ou moins l'habitude de l'utiliser dans certains contextes >> (d'articles et de documents courts), je le découvre avec la classe book. >> J'aurais probablement plusieurs questions à poser à la liste, au fur >> et à mesure de la composition. Je vous remercie par avance de votre >> attention. >> >> Un première question concerne les caractères grecs. >> J'utilise souvent xelatex en grecque avec la fonte (magnifique !) >> Linux Libertine. Le rendu est toujours impeccable, l'utilisation aisée. >> Des problématiques éditoriales vont nous contraindre (très >> probablement) à l'utilisation d'une fonte Times. Connaissez-vous un >> moyen d'obtenir des glyphes grecs avec une police type Times, avec >> xelatex ? > > Il me semble que TeX Gyre Termes soit un bon choix. Voir le projet TeX > Gyre : http://www.gust.org.pl/projects/e-foundry/tex-gyre/ > >> Les commandes \textgreek{XXXXX} de Latex ne sont en effet pas >> suffisantes pour le grecque ancien. >> >> Merci de votre aide. >> >> >> Romain Vanel > > René FRITZ > -- Romain Vanel CNRS - DRH Service conseil et expertise juridique Tel. : 01.44.96.51.52 From - Wed Mar 24 18:49:41 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.200]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2OHnD0e058728 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:49:14 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD3B9E83FD for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:49:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from ufc.univ-fcomte.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ufc.univ-fcomte.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11653-04 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:49:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr (ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr [194.57.91.204]) by ufc.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A0869E82C9 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:49:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from acces.univ-fcomte.fr (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ufc204.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 218B43C2F12 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:49:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (pla25-1-82-225-17-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.17.10]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by acces.univ-fcomte.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC22B7CD3 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:49:11 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4BAA5094.7020506@univ-fcomte.fr> Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:49:08 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?P=E9tiard_Fran=E7ois?= Reply-To: liste Gut User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; fr; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: liste Gut Subject: Re: [gut] Beamer : =?ISO-8859-1?Q?probl=E8me_de_num=E9ro_d?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?e_page/frame?= References: <4BA3984B.40107@univ-rouen.fr> <4BA399F2.3020102@univ-fcomte.fr> <4BA73BE8.3080704@univ-fcomte.fr> <4BA7779E.2060903@univ-rouen.fr> <4BA7C450.3090900@univ-fcomte.fr> <4BA8BCD6.7010305@univ-rouen.fr> <4BA8CF06.8010807@univ-fcomte.fr> <4BAA085A.7000607@univ-rouen.fr> <4BAA0C69.3010000@univ-fcomte.fr> <4BAA2748.5090004@univ-rouen.fr> In-Reply-To: <4BAA2748.5090004@univ-rouen.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at univ-fcomte.fr X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:49:14 +0100 (CET) Le 24/03/2010 15:52, Sebastien Kramm a écrit : > > Pétiard François a écrit : >> Vous avez le même *File List* que moi donc, effectivement, le problème >> ne vient pas des packages, mais vraisemblablement de votre source. >> Mettez en commentaires le code avant votre le frame contenant le >> \label qui pose problème, compilez deux fois et regardez si le >> problème demeure. > > Ca y est, après moultes éditions et paires de compilation pour isoler le > problème, je l'ai enfin trouvé !!! C'est effectivement à voir avec les > sections, et plus précisemment les \subsection. J'ai donc fait un ECM > qui isole le problème (ci-dessous): 2 "frames", sur un document de 3 > pages. Je joins la sortie pdf, on voit bien que le "ref" sur la "frame" > 2 donne 1 au lieu de 2. > Et si je commente le \subsection, là, c'est correct. > > Je ne comprends pas ce fonctionnement. Est-ce moi qui ne sait pas > utiliser le \subsection ? > > Merci pour vos lumières. > Là, je donne ma langue au chat. Il semblerait que, quand un frame commence, il incrémente le compteur framenumber (par un \refstepcounter), ce qui met le \@currentlabel à la valeur de ce framenumber, mais, lors de l'entrée dans le texte du frame, le \@currentlabel est revenu à la valeur donnée par la commande \subsection ???? Si un gourou de beamer pouvait nous éclairer ? François From - Wed Mar 24 19:29:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_QP_LONG_LINE autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp2f.orange.fr (smtp2f.orange.fr [80.12.242.152]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2OIT7lt073170 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:29:09 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2f23.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id A22D1800011C for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:29:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2f23.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 94B528000424 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:29:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (AVelizy-153-1-46-18.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.249.93.18]) by mwinf2f23.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id CFC9E800011C for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:29:06 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20100324182906851.CFC9E800011C@mwinf2f23.orange.fr Message-Id: <466D4304-E865-4BB6-8B45-6DF3ECE1AAE3@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Fritz?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: <4BAA3748.1050208@cnrs-dir.fr> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--909629625 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: [gut] xetex - xelatex - time - grec. Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:29:06 +0100 References: <4BAA0576.20902@cnrs-dir.fr> <05886A51-B907-42A0-960A-1E62E8439954@orange.fr> <4BAA3748.1050208@cnrs-dir.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:29:09 +0100 (CET) --Apple-Mail-2--909629625 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le 24 mars 10 =E0 17:01, Romain Vanel a =E9crit : > > Merci ! > > c'est un beau travail ! et cela fonctionne bien. Le site est une=20=20 > mine, je d=E9couvre des tonnes de fontes. > Cependant, comme dit dans le readme de Ternes, "Greek glyphs bear=20=20 > provisional character." > En effet, l=E0 non plus, tous ne sont pas support=E9s... J'ai de=20=20 > magnifiques trous dans mes textes. Pour =E9crire en grec ancien, vous pouvez aussi utiliser la police=20=20 Gentium. Voir ces sites pour plus de d=E9tails : http://www.foursenses.net/= grecxetex=20 et http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=3Dnrsi&id=3Dgentium > Ren=E9 Fritz a =E9crit : >> >> Le 24 mars 10 =E0 13:28, Romain Vanel a =E9crit : >> >>> >>> Bonjour =E0 tous, >>> >>> >>> =E0 l'occasion de la pr=E9paration d'un recueil d'articles, nous avons= =20=20 >>> choisi d'utiliser xetex (via xelatex) pour composer l'ouvrage. >>> Ayant plus ou moins l'habitude de l'utiliser dans certains=20=20 >>> contextes (d'articles et de documents courts), je le d=E9couvre avec=20= =20 >>> la classe book. >>> J'aurais probablement plusieurs questions =E0 poser =E0 la liste, au=20= =20 >>> fur et =E0 mesure de la composition. Je vous remercie par avance de=20= =20 >>> votre attention. >>> >>> Un premi=E8re question concerne les caract=E8res grecs. >>> J'utilise souvent xelatex en grecque avec la fonte (magnifique !)=20=20 >>> Linux Libertine. Le rendu est toujours impeccable, l'utilisation=20=20 >>> ais=E9e. >>> Des probl=E9matiques =E9ditoriales vont nous contraindre (tr=E8s=20=20 >>> probablement) =E0 l'utilisation d'une fonte Times. Connaissez-vous=20= =20 >>> un moyen d'obtenir des glyphes grecs avec une police type Times,=20=20 >>> avec xelatex ? >> >> Il me semble que TeX Gyre Termes soit un bon choix. Voir le projet=20=20 >> TeX Gyre : http://www.gust.org.pl/projects/e-foundry/tex-gyre/ >> >>> Les commandes \textgreek{XXXXX} de Latex ne sont en effet pas=20=20 >>> suffisantes pour le grecque ancien. >>> >>> Merci de votre aide. >>> >>> >>> Romain Vanel >> >> Ren=E9 FRITZ >> > > --=20 > Romain Vanel > CNRS - DRH Service conseil et expertise juridique Tel. :=20=20 > 01.44.96.51.52 Ren=E9 FRITZ --Apple-Mail-2--909629625 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Le 24 mars 10 =E0 17:01, = Romain Vanel a =E9crit :


Merci !

c'est un beau travail ! et cel= a fonctionne bien. Le site est une mine, je d=E9couvre des tonnes de fontes= .
Cependant, comme dit dans le readme de Ternes, "Greek glyphs bear prov= isional character."
En effet, l=E0 non plus, tous ne sont pas support=E9= s... J'ai de magnifiques trous dans mes textes.
=
Pour =E9crire en grec ancien, vous pouvez aussi utiliser la = police Gentium. Voir ces sites pour plus de d=E9tails : http://www.foursenses.net/grecxetex&n= bsp;et http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_= id=3Dnrsi&id=3Dgentium

Ren=E9 Fritz a =E9crit :

Le 24 mars 10 =E0 13:28, Romain Vanel a =E9cri= t :


Bonjour =E0 tous,

=

=E0 l'occasion de la pr=E9paration d'un recueil d'articles, nous = avons choisi d'utiliser xetex (via xelatex) pour composer l'ouvrage.
= Ayant plus ou moins l'habitude de l'utiliser dans certains contextes (d'art= icles et de documents courts), je le d=E9couvre avec la classe book.
= J'aurais probablement plusieurs questions =E0 poser =E0 la liste, au fur et= =E0 mesure de la composition. Je vous remercie par avance de votre attenti= on.

Un premi=E8re question concerne les caract=E8res grecs.
J'utilise souvent xelatex en grecque avec la fonte (magnifique !) Linux= Libertine. Le rendu est toujours impeccable, l'utilisation ais=E9e.
= Des probl=E9matiques =E9ditoriales vont nous contraindre (tr=E8s probableme= nt) =E0 l'utilisation d'une fonte Times. Connaissez-vous un moyen d'obtenir= des glyphes grecs avec une police type Times, avec xelatex  ?

Il me semble que TeX Gyre Termes soit un bon choix. Voir le= projet TeX Gyre : http://www.gust.org.pl/projects/e-foundry/tex-gyre/

<= blockquote type=3D"cite">Les commandes \textgreek{XXXXX} de Latex ne sont e= n effet pas suffisantes pour le grecque ancien.

Merci de votre= aide.


Romain Vanel

Ren=E9 FRITZ=


--
Roma= in Vanel
CNRS - DRH Service conseil et expertise juridique Tel. : 01.44.= 96.51.52

Ren=E9 FRITZ

--Apple-Mail-2--909629625-- From - Thu Mar 25 08:36:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from mx2.cnrs-dir.fr (mx.cnrs-dir.fr [193.55.76.239]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2P7aOhf011339 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 08:36:25 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.cnrs-dir.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 164625D07B5 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 08:36:24 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cnrs-dir.fr Received: from mx2.cnrs-dir.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (leonV3.dmz.cnrs-dir.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OcdefuiTnngf for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 08:36:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.cnrs-dir.fr (cezanne.auteuil.cnrs-dir.fr [193.51.136.2]) by mx2.cnrs-dir.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD235D04B8 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 08:36:22 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (CGM300370.cma.cnrs-dir.fr [193.55.76.218]) by smtp.cnrs-dir.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB982FE1B for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 08:36:22 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4BAB1276.70702@cnrs-dir.fr> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 08:36:22 +0100 From: Romain Vanel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] xetex - xelatex - time - grec. References: <4BAA0576.20902@cnrs-dir.fr> <05886A51-B907-42A0-960A-1E62E8439954@orange.fr> <4BAA3748.1050208@cnrs-dir.fr> <466D4304-E865-4BB6-8B45-6DF3ECE1AAE3@orange.fr> In-Reply-To: <466D4304-E865-4BB6-8B45-6DF3ECE1AAE3@orange.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 25 Mar 2010 08:36:25 +0100 (CET) c'est impeccables, sauf que, grâce à vos liens, mes pérégrinations m'ont emmenée vers la fonte de l'Institut français d'archéologie orientale : IFAO Grec Unicode. Tout fonctionne. Merci. Sauf que... maintenant il nous faut semble-t-il utiliser Liberation Serif comme fonte principale... René Fritz a écrit : > > Le 24 mars 10 à 17:01, Romain Vanel a écrit : > >> >> Merci ! >> >> c'est un beau travail ! et cela fonctionne bien. Le site est une >> mine, je découvre des tonnes de fontes. >> Cependant, comme dit dans le readme de Ternes, "Greek glyphs bear >> provisional character." >> En effet, là non plus, tous ne sont pas supportés... J'ai de >> magnifiques trous dans mes textes. > > Pour écrire en grec ancien, vous pouvez aussi utiliser la police > Gentium. Voir ces sites pour plus de détails > : http://www.foursenses.net/grecxetex et http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=gentium > > >> René Fritz a écrit : >>> >>> Le 24 mars 10 à 13:28, Romain Vanel a écrit : >>> >>>> >>>> Bonjour à tous, >>>> >>>> >>>> à l'occasion de la préparation d'un recueil d'articles, nous avons >>>> choisi d'utiliser xetex (via xelatex) pour composer l'ouvrage. >>>> Ayant plus ou moins l'habitude de l'utiliser dans certains >>>> contextes (d'articles et de documents courts), je le découvre avec >>>> la classe book. >>>> J'aurais probablement plusieurs questions à poser à la liste, au >>>> fur et à mesure de la composition. Je vous remercie par avance de >>>> votre attention. >>>> >>>> Un première question concerne les caractères grecs. >>>> J'utilise souvent xelatex en grecque avec la fonte (magnifique !) >>>> Linux Libertine. Le rendu est toujours impeccable, l'utilisation aisée. >>>> Des problématiques éditoriales vont nous contraindre (très >>>> probablement) à l'utilisation d'une fonte Times. Connaissez-vous un >>>> moyen d'obtenir des glyphes grecs avec une police type Times, avec >>>> xelatex ? >>> >>> Il me semble que TeX Gyre Termes soit un bon choix. Voir le projet >>> TeX Gyre : http://www.gust.org.pl/projects/e-foundry/tex-gyre/ >>> >>>> Les commandes \textgreek{XXXXX} de Latex ne sont en effet pas >>>> suffisantes pour le grecque ancien. >>>> >>>> Merci de votre aide. >>>> >>>> >>>> Romain Vanel >>> >>> René FRITZ >>> >> >> -- >> Romain Vanel >> CNRS - DRH Service conseil et expertise juridique Tel. : 01.44.96.51.52 > > René FRITZ > -- Romain Vanel CNRS - DRH Service conseil et expertise juridique Tel. : 01.44.96.51.52 From - Thu Mar 25 08:42:27 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from mx2.cnrs-dir.fr (mx.cnrs-dir.fr [193.55.76.239]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2P7g2Mp012916 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 08:42:03 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.cnrs-dir.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7414E5D07B4 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 08:42:02 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cnrs-dir.fr Received: from mx2.cnrs-dir.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (leonV3.dmz.cnrs-dir.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1IYZT6FTN57D for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 08:42:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp.cnrs-dir.fr (cezanne.auteuil.cnrs-dir.fr [193.51.136.2]) by mx2.cnrs-dir.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 820255D04B8 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 08:42:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (CGM300370.cma.cnrs-dir.fr [193.55.76.218]) by smtp.cnrs-dir.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F9F2FE1B for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 08:42:01 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4BAB13C9.9090005@cnrs-dir.fr> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 08:42:01 +0100 From: Romain Vanel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: xetex - liberation serif - petites capitales Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 25 Mar 2010 08:42:03 +0100 (CET) Bonjour, toujours dans le même projet, nous devons semble-t-il, utiliser Liberation (serif). Soit. Tout fonctionne, bien sûr, mais je ne crois pas avoir trouvé les petites capitales... Est-ce normal ? Qu'en pensez vous... ? bonne journée merci romain From - Thu Mar 25 21:07:48 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (smtp4-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.4]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2PK7J7X043169 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 21:07:21 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from smtp4-g21.free.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5A2C4C81DB for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 21:07:18 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (che77-1-82-238-26-245.fbx.proxad.net [82.238.26.245]) by smtp4-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 734794C81BB for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 21:07:15 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4BABC272.3030308@free.fr> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 21:07:14 +0100 From: MX User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100317) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] xetex - xelatex - time - grec. References: <4BAA0576.20902@cnrs-dir.fr> <05886A51-B907-42A0-960A-1E62E8439954@orange.fr> <4BAA3748.1050208@cnrs-dir.fr> <466D4304-E865-4BB6-8B45-6DF3ECE1AAE3@orange.fr> <4BAB1276.70702@cnrs-dir.fr> In-Reply-To: <4BAB1276.70702@cnrs-dir.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Thu, 25 Mar 2010 21:07:22 +0100 (CET) Bonjour à tous, Il est aussi possible d'utiliser la fonte Minion qui contient tous les caractères du grec ancien. M.X. Romain Vanel a écrit : > c'est impeccables, > > sauf que, grâce à vos liens, mes pérégrinations m'ont emmenée vers la > fonte de l'Institut français d'archéologie orientale : IFAO Grec > Unicode. Tout fonctionne. > Merci. > > Sauf que... maintenant il nous faut semble-t-il utiliser Liberation > Serif comme fonte principale... > > René Fritz a écrit : >> >> Le 24 mars 10 à 17:01, Romain Vanel a écrit : >> >>> >>> Merci ! >>> >>> c'est un beau travail ! et cela fonctionne bien. Le site est une >>> mine, je découvre des tonnes de fontes. >>> Cependant, comme dit dans le readme de Ternes, "Greek glyphs bear >>> provisional character." >>> En effet, là non plus, tous ne sont pas supportés... J'ai de >>> magnifiques trous dans mes textes. >> >> Pour écrire en grec ancien, vous pouvez aussi utiliser la police >> Gentium. Voir ces sites pour plus de détails : >> http://www.foursenses.net/grecxetex et >> http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=gentium >> >> >>> René Fritz a écrit : >>>> >>>> Le 24 mars 10 à 13:28, Romain Vanel a écrit : >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Bonjour à tous, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> à l'occasion de la préparation d'un recueil d'articles, nous avons >>>>> choisi d'utiliser xetex (via xelatex) pour composer l'ouvrage. >>>>> Ayant plus ou moins l'habitude de l'utiliser dans certains >>>>> contextes (d'articles et de documents courts), je le découvre avec >>>>> la classe book. >>>>> J'aurais probablement plusieurs questions à poser à la liste, au >>>>> fur et à mesure de la composition. Je vous remercie par avance de >>>>> votre attention. >>>>> >>>>> Un première question concerne les caractères grecs. >>>>> J'utilise souvent xelatex en grecque avec la fonte (magnifique !) >>>>> Linux Libertine. Le rendu est toujours impeccable, l'utilisation >>>>> aisée. >>>>> Des problématiques éditoriales vont nous contraindre (très >>>>> probablement) à l'utilisation d'une fonte Times. Connaissez-vous >>>>> un moyen d'obtenir des glyphes grecs avec une police type Times, >>>>> avec xelatex ? >>>> >>>> Il me semble que TeX Gyre Termes soit un bon choix. Voir le projet >>>> TeX Gyre : http://www.gust.org.pl/projects/e-foundry/tex-gyre/ >>>> >>>>> Les commandes \textgreek{XXXXX} de Latex ne sont en effet pas >>>>> suffisantes pour le grecque ancien. >>>>> >>>>> Merci de votre aide. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Romain Vanel >>>> >>>> René FRITZ >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Romain Vanel >>> CNRS - DRH Service conseil et expertise juridique Tel. : 01.44.96.51.52 >> >> René FRITZ >> > From - Fri Mar 26 10:04:50 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp28.orange.fr (smtp28.orange.fr [80.12.242.101]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2Q94Ota065254 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:04:25 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2816.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 520D48000437 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:04:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2816.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 45BD48000344 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:04:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (AVelizy-153-1-40-13.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.249.31.13]) by mwinf2816.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C2C7F8000437 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:04:23 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20100326090423797.C2C7F8000437@mwinf2816.orange.fr Message-Id: <80DDE8B5-6F71-4446-9743-05F8B5162C90@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Fritz?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: <4BAB13C9.9090005@cnrs-dir.fr> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--770712744 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: [gut] xetex - liberation serif - petites capitales Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:04:23 +0100 References: <4BAB13C9.9090005@cnrs-dir.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:04:25 +0100 (CET) --Apple-Mail-1--770712744 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le 25 mars 10 =E0 08:42, Romain Vanel a =E9crit : > > Bonjour, > > toujours dans le m=EAme projet, nous devons semble-t-il, utiliser=20=20 > Liberation (serif). Soit. > Tout fonctionne, bien s=FBr, mais je ne crois pas avoir trouv=E9 les=20= =20 > petites capitales... > Est-ce normal ? Qu'en pensez vous... ? =C0 priori, il semble que dans la version Dafont (que je viens=20=20 d'essayer) il n'y a pas les petites capitales (elles devraient exister=20= =20 dans une version commerciale, je suppose). Lib=E9ration d=E9rive de =ABTimes New Roman =BB et la possibilit=E9 est de= =20=20 recourir =E0 =AB Linux Libertine =BB. Dans le m=EAme document, vous pouvez utiliser, =E0 la fois, TeX Gyre=20=20 Termes (d=E9riv=E9 de Times) comme mainfont et Gentium en newfontface pour= =20=20 le Grec. > > bonne journ=E9e > > merci > > > romain Ren=E9 FRITZ --Apple-Mail-1--770712744 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Le 25 mars 10 =E0 08:42, = Romain Vanel a =E9crit :


Bonjour,

toujours dans le m=EAme proje= t, nous devons semble-t-il, utiliser Liberation (serif). Soit.
Tout fonc= tionne, bien s=FBr, mais je ne crois pas avoir trouv=E9 les petites capital= es...
Est-ce normal ? Qu'en pensez vous... ?
=
=C0 priori, il semble que dans la version Dafont (que je viens d'= essayer) il n'y a pas les petites capitales (elles devraient exister dans u= ne version commerciale, je suppose).

Lib=E9ration = d=E9rive de =ABTimes New Roman =BB et la possibilit=E9 est de recourir =E0 = =AB Linux Libertine =BB.

Dans le m=EAme document, = vous pouvez utiliser, =E0 la fois, TeX Gyre Termes (d=E9riv=E9 de Times) co= mme mainfont et Gentium e= n newfontface pour le Gre= c.


bonne journ=E9e

= merci


romain

Ren=E9 FRITZ
--Apple-Mail-1--770712744-- From - Fri Mar 26 10:20:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_QP_LONG_LINE autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp27.orange.fr (smtp27.orange.fr [80.12.242.96]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2Q9Dh1w069753 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:13:44 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2722.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 743AC1C00613 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:13:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2722.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 655191C00606 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:13:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (AVelizy-153-1-40-13.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr [81.249.31.13]) by mwinf2722.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D78511C00613 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:13:41 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20100326091341882.D78511C00613@mwinf2722.orange.fr Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Fritz?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: <4BABC272.3030308@free.fr> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--770154726 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: [gut] xetex - xelatex - time - grec. Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:13:41 +0100 References: <4BAA0576.20902@cnrs-dir.fr> <05886A51-B907-42A0-960A-1E62E8439954@orange.fr> <4BAA3748.1050208@cnrs-dir.fr> <466D4304-E865-4BB6-8B45-6DF3ECE1AAE3@orange.fr> <4BAB1276.70702@cnrs-dir.fr> <4BABC272.3030308@free.fr> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:13:44 +0100 (CET) --Apple-Mail-2--770154726 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le 25 mars 10 =E0 21:07, MX a =E9crit : > > Bonjour =E0 tous, > > Il est aussi possible d'utiliser la fonte Minion qui contient tous les > caract=E8res du grec ancien. Vous devez parler de Minion Pro, je suppose. Si cette fonte renferme=20=20 tous les glyphes du grec ancien, il ne devrait pas y avoir de=20=20 probl=E8me. Je ne peux pas le v=E9rifier car je n'ai pas achet=E9 cette=20= =20 fonte qui est souvent pr=E9sent=E9e dans le document =AB The Fontspec=20=20 package =BB de Will Robertson. > > M.X. > > Romain Vanel a =E9crit : >> c'est impeccables, >> >> sauf que, gr=E2ce =E0 vos liens, mes p=E9r=E9grinations m'ont emmen=E9e = vers la >> fonte de l'Institut fran=E7ais d'arch=E9ologie orientale : IFAO Grec >> Unicode. Tout fonctionne. >> Merci. >> >> Sauf que... maintenant il nous faut semble-t-il utiliser Liberation >> Serif comme fonte principale... >> >> Ren=E9 Fritz a =E9crit : >>> >>> Le 24 mars 10 =E0 17:01, Romain Vanel a =E9crit : >>> >>>> >>>> Merci ! >>>> >>>> c'est un beau travail ! et cela fonctionne bien. Le site est une >>>> mine, je d=E9couvre des tonnes de fontes. >>>> Cependant, comme dit dans le readme de Ternes, "Greek glyphs bear >>>> provisional character." >>>> En effet, l=E0 non plus, tous ne sont pas support=E9s... J'ai de >>>> magnifiques trous dans mes textes. >>> >>> Pour =E9crire en grec ancien, vous pouvez aussi utiliser la police >>> Gentium. Voir ces sites pour plus de d=E9tails : >>> http://www.foursenses.net/grecxetex et >>> http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=3Dnrsi&id=3Dgentium >>> >> site_id=3Dnrsi&id=3Dgentium> >>> >>>> Ren=E9 Fritz a =E9crit : >>>>> >>>>> Le 24 mars 10 =E0 13:28, Romain Vanel a =E9crit : >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Bonjour =E0 tous, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> =E0 l'occasion de la pr=E9paration d'un recueil d'articles, nous=20= =20 >>>>>> avons >>>>>> choisi d'utiliser xetex (via xelatex) pour composer l'ouvrage. >>>>>> Ayant plus ou moins l'habitude de l'utiliser dans certains >>>>>> contextes (d'articles et de documents courts), je le d=E9couvre=20= =20 >>>>>> avec >>>>>> la classe book. >>>>>> J'aurais probablement plusieurs questions =E0 poser =E0 la liste, au >>>>>> fur et =E0 mesure de la composition. Je vous remercie par avance de >>>>>> votre attention. >>>>>> >>>>>> Un premi=E8re question concerne les caract=E8res grecs. >>>>>> J'utilise souvent xelatex en grecque avec la fonte (magnifique !) >>>>>> Linux Libertine. Le rendu est toujours impeccable, l'utilisation >>>>>> ais=E9e. >>>>>> Des probl=E9matiques =E9ditoriales vont nous contraindre (tr=E8s >>>>>> probablement) =E0 l'utilisation d'une fonte Times. Connaissez-vous >>>>>> un moyen d'obtenir des glyphes grecs avec une police type Times, >>>>>> avec xelatex ? >>>>> >>>>> Il me semble que TeX Gyre Termes soit un bon choix. Voir le projet >>>>> TeX Gyre : http://www.gust.org.pl/projects/e-foundry/tex-gyre/ >>>>> >>>>>> Les commandes \textgreek{XXXXX} de Latex ne sont en effet pas >>>>>> suffisantes pour le grecque ancien. >>>>>> >>>>>> Merci de votre aide. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Romain Vanel >>>>> >>>>> Ren=E9 FRITZ >>>>> >>>> >>>> --=20 >>>> Romain Vanel >>>> CNRS - DRH Service conseil et expertise juridique Tel. :=20=20 >>>> 01.44.96.51.52 >>> >>> Ren=E9 FRITZ >>> Ren=E9 FRITZ --Apple-Mail-2--770154726 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Le 25 mars 10 =E0 21:07, = MX a =E9crit :


Bonjour =E0 tous,

Il est aussi possible d'utilis= er la fonte Minion qui contient tous les
caract=E8res du grec ancien.

Vous devez parler de Minion Pro, je= suppose. Si cette fonte renferme tous les glyphes du grec ancien, il ne de= vrait pas y avoir de probl=E8me. Je ne peux pas le v=E9rifier car je n'ai p= as achet=E9 cette fonte qui est souvent pr=E9sent=E9e dans le document =AB = The Fontspec package =BB de Will Robertson.


M.X.

Romain Vanel a =E9crit :
c'est impeccables,

sauf que, gr=E2ce =E0 vos liens= , mes p=E9r=E9grinations m'ont emmen=E9e vers la
fonte de l'Institut fran=E7ais d'arch=E9ologie orientale : = IFAO Grec
Unicode. Tout fonctionn= e.
Merci.

Sauf que... m= aintenant il nous faut semble-t-il utiliser Liberation
Serif comme fonte principale...

Ren=E9 Frit= z a =E9crit :

Le 24 mars 10 =E0 17:01, Romain Vanel a =E9crit :

<= /blockquote>

M= erci !
=

c'est un beau travail ! et cela fonctionne bien. Le = site est une
mine, je d=E9couv= re des tonnes de fontes.
Cepen= dant, comme dit dans le readme de Ternes, "Greek glyphs bear
provisional character."
<= blockquote type=3D"cite">En effet, l=E0 non plus, tous ne sont pas support= =E9s... J'ai de
magnifiques t= rous dans mes textes.

Pour =E9crire en grec ancie= n, vous pouvez aussi utiliser la police
Gentium. Voir ces sites pour = plus de d=E9tails :
=
h= ttp://www.foursenses.net/grecxetex et
http://scripts= .sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=3Dnrsi&id=3Dgentium
<= ;http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=3Dnrsi&am= p;id=3Dgentium>

Ren=E9 Fritz = a =E9crit :

Le 24 mars 10 =E0 13:28, Romain Vanel a =E9crit :


Bonjour =E0 tous,
<= /blockquote>

<= blockquote type=3D"cite">

<= blockquote type=3D"cite">
=E0 l'occasion de la pr=E9paration d'un recueil= d'articles, nous avons
cho= isi d'utiliser xetex (via xelatex) pour composer l'ouvrage.
Ayant plus ou moins l'habitude de l'utilis= er dans certains
contextes = (d'articles et de documents courts), je le d=E9couvre avec
=
la classe book.
J'aurais probablement plusieurs questions =E0 poser = =E0 la liste, au
fur et =E0= mesure de la composition. Je vous remercie par avance de
<= /blockquote>
votre attention.

Un pr= emi=E8re question concerne les caract=E8res grecs.
J'utilise souvent xelatex en grecque avec la fonte = (magnifique !)
Linux Libert= ine. Le rendu est toujours impeccable, l'utilisation
=
ais=E9e.
Des probl=E9matiques =E9ditoriales vont nous contraindre (tr=E8s<= br>
probablement) =E0 l'utilisa= tion d'une fonte Times. Connaissez-vous
un moyen d'obtenir des glyphes grecs avec une police type Time= s,
<= blockquote type=3D"cite">
avec xelatex  ?
=

=
Il me semble que TeX Gyre Termes soit un bon c= hoix. Voir le projet
TeX Gyre : http://www.gust.org.pl/projects/e-foundry/tex= -gyre/

Les commandes \text= greek{XXXXX} de Latex ne sont en effet pas
suffisantes pour le grecque ancien.
<= blockquote type=3D"cite">
M= erci de votre aide.
=


Romain Vanel
<= blockquote type=3D"cite">

Ren=E9 FRITZ<= br>


--
Romain Vanel
CNR= S - DRH Service conseil et expertise juridique Tel. : 01.44.96.51.52

Ren=E9 FRITZ


Ren=E9= FRITZ

--Apple-Mail-2--770154726-- From - Fri Mar 26 10:49:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-97.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_MIME_NO_HTML_TAG,MIME_HTML_ONLY,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from relais1.lfpo.aviation-civile.gouv.fr (relais1.lfpo.aviation-civile.gouv.fr [143.196.144.201]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2Q9n3pW098894 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:49:04 +0100 (CET) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relais1.lfpo.aviation (Postfix) with ESMTP id 155D3281A7 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:49:02 +0100 (CET) Received: from relais1.lfpo.aviation-civile.gouv.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (relais1.lfpo.aviation-civile.gouv.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11700-04 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:49:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from mta2.lfpo.aviation (mta2.lfpo.aviation [172.16.89.222]) by relais1.lfpo.aviation (Postfix) with ESMTP id E45B1281A6 for ; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:49:01 +0100 (CET) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-disposition: inline Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-15 Received: from aviation-civile.gouv.fr ([unknown] [172.16.89.220]) by webmail.lfpo.aviation (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0KZV00LWQV9MLM20@webmail.lfpo.aviation> for gut@ens.fr; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:48:58 +0100 (CET) Sender: ronan.melennec@aviation-civile.gouv.fr Received: from [172.16.89.223] (Forwarded-For: 172.16.33.13) by webmail.lfpo.aviation (mshttpd); Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:48:58 +0100 From: MELENNEC Ronan DGAC/CEDRe To: gut@ens.fr Message-id: Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:48:58 +0100 X-Mailer: Sun Java(tm) System Messenger Express 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009) Content-language: fr Subject: Re : Re: [gut] xetex - liberation serif - petites capitales X-Accept-Language: fr Priority: normal Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at lfpo.aviation X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:49:04 +0100 (CET)
Bonjour,
De la question initiale je n'ai pa= s compris si Liberation
=E9tait choisi parce que ses m= =E9triques sont calqu=E9es sur celles de
Times New Rom= an ou pour une autre raison.

(Pa= r exemple, dans mon administration Liberation a =E9t=E9 impos=E9
=A0par la direction, il se pourrait qu'il y ait une question de = licence,
=A0le fait est que l'utiliser dispense de s'e= mb=EAter avec des polices Microsoft
sur des syst=E8mes= d'exploitation non-Microsoft.).

En dehors des m=E9triques, Liberation n'est pas vraiment d=E9riv=E9
de Times New Roman, les =BDils sont nettement diff=E9rents.<= br _moz_dirty=3D"" />
cordialement,
--
Ronan Melennec
--
Sur 10/03/26, Ren=E9 Fritz <renefritz@orange.fr= > a =E9crit=A0:


Le 25 mars 10= =E0 08:42, Romain Vanel a =E9crit :


Bonjour,

toujours = dans le m=EAme projet, nous devons semble-t-il, utiliser Liberation (serif)= . Soit.
Tout fonctionne, bien s=FBr, mais je ne crois pas avoir trouv= =E9 les petites capitales...
Est-ce normal ? Qu'en pensez vous... ?

=C0 priori, il semble que dans la ve= rsion Dafont (que je viens d'essayer) il n'y a pas les petites capitales (e= lles devraient exister dans une version commerciale, je suppose).

Lib=E9ration d=E9rive de =ABTimes New Roman =BB et la pos= sibilit=E9 est de recourir =E0 =AB Linux Libertine =BB.

Dans le m=EAme document, vous pouvez utiliser, =E0 la fois, TeX Gyr= e Termes (d=E9riv=E9 de Times) comme mainf= ont et Gentium en newfo= ntface pour le Grec.


bonne journ=E9e

merci


romain

Ren=E9 FRITZ

From - Sun Mar 28 17:00:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.2 required=5.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr (smtp23.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.20]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2SF0HIM079724 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:00:18 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2322.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 248C770000B0 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:00:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from magellan (did75-5-87-91-253-47.dsl.club-internet.fr [87.91.253.47]) by msfrf2322.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 0BDFB700008C for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:00:17 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20100328150017487.0BDFB700008C@msfrf2322.sfr.fr Received: by magellan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3CF79ED8CC; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:00:13 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:00:13 +0200 From: Philippe Delavalade To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Tableau moche Message-ID: <20100328150013.GA6335@sfr.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:00:18 +0200 (CEST) Bonjour. J'ai un souci avec le tableau suivant dont la première ligne est moche. En cas de besoin j'esssaierai d'envoyer un exemple minimal (c'est ça le problème :-) ) ; je suis en landscape sur la page où doit figurer ce tableau à remplir par les élèves d'où des contorsions pour laisser de la place pour écrire. \[ \begin{array}{|c|*{21}{p{6.4mm}|}} \hline \text{Notes} &0&1&2 &3&4&5 &6&7&8 &9&10&11 &12&13&14 &15&16&17 &18&19&20 \rule[-5mm]{0mm}{10mm} \\ \hline \text{Effectifs} &0&0&2 &2&2&3 &5&3&5 &5&9&6 &5&7&5 &4&5&2 &1&1&0 \rule[-5mm]{0mm}{10mm} \\ \hline \text{Effectifs cumulés} &&& &&& &&& &&& &&& &&& &&& \rule[-5mm]{0mm}{10mm} \\ \hline \text{Fréquences} &&& &&& &&& &&& &&& &&& &&& \rule[-5mm]{0mm}{10mm} \\ \hline \text{Fréquences cumulées} &&& &&& &&& &&& &&& &&& &&& \rule[-5mm]{0mm}{10mm} \\ \hline \end{array} \] Merci d'avance d'une aide. -- Ph. Delavalade From - Sun Mar 28 17:16:12 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.2 required=5.0 tests=SPF_NEUTRAL autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp23.services.sfr.fr (smtp23.services.sfr.fr [93.17.128.20]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2SFFksj083399 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:15:47 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from filter.sfr.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by msfrf2322.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 7648270000AF for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:15:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from magellan (did75-5-87-91-253-47.dsl.club-internet.fr [87.91.253.47]) by msfrf2322.sfr.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 619F770000AB for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:15:46 +0200 (CEST) X-SFR-UUID: 20100328151546399.619F770000AB@msfrf2322.sfr.fr Received: by magellan (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7448DED8CC; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:15:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:15:42 +0200 From: Philippe Delavalade To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] Tableau moche Message-ID: <20100328151542.GA6469@sfr.fr> References: <20100328150013.GA6335@sfr.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20100328150013.GA6335@sfr.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Sun, 28 Mar 2010 17:15:47 +0200 (CEST) Re et désolé pour le bruit. La question était sans objet :-( -- Ph. Delavalade From - Tue Mar 30 10:04:52 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2U84NDV001793 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:04:25 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NwWQv-00086F-Fu for gut@ens.fr; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:04:21 +0200 Received: from celsius02.unibw-hamburg.de ([139.11.215.121]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:04:21 +0200 Received: from giggzounet by celsius02.unibw-hamburg.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:04:21 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gut@ens.fr From: giggzounet Subject: Passer d'un style 2 colonnes =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E0_une_colonne_?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?dans_les_annexes?= Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:04:10 +0200 Lines: 11 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: celsius02.unibw-hamburg.de User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; fr; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100228 SUSE/3.0.3-3.1 Thunderbird/3.0.3 X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:04:25 +0200 (CEST) Bonjour, j'écris un article pour un journal scientifique. Le style latex est à 2 colonnes obligatoires. J'ai des images qui perdent leur sens si elles sont minuscules et donc le style 2 colonnes me pose problème. Je me demandais si il était d'usage de passer du style 2 colonnes à une colonne dans les annexes... Si oui comment fait on d'un point de vue latex ? Merci d'avance, Guillaume From - Tue Mar 30 10:17:15 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from amazone1.ujf-grenoble.fr (amazone1.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.54.238.254]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2U8Gkou011778 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:16:46 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr (tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.18.212]) by amazone1.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.13.7/8.13.7/Configured by JE 21 07 2006) with ESMTP id o2U8GjB9010667 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:16:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BBD72F7058 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:16:45 +0200 (CEST) X-UJF-AV: Scanned on tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr Received: from tibre3.ujf-grenoble.fr (tibre3.ujf-grenoble.fr [152.77.24.147]) by tana2.ujf-grenoble.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 803C22F7056 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:16:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from euclide.ujf-grenoble.fr (euclide.ujf-grenoble.fr [193.48.255.207]) by tibre3.ujf-grenoble.fr (8.14.3/8.14.3/SyS-1.10) with ESMTP id o2U8GhTU016243 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:16:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from thierry.bouche@ujf-grenoble.fr) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:16:41 +0200 From: Thierry Bouche Organization: Institut Fourier X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1604181450.20100330101641@ujf-grenoble.fr> To: gut@ens.fr Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_[gut]_Passer_d'un_style_2_colonnes_=E0_une_colonne_dans_les_annexes?= In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:16:46 +0200 (CEST) Bonjour, Le mardi 30 mars 2010, vers 10:04:10, giggzounet écrivit : g> Bonjour, g> j'écris un article pour un journal scientifique. Le style latex est à 2 g> colonnes obligatoires. J'ai des images qui perdent leur sens si elles g> sont minuscules et donc le style 2 colonnes me pose problème. Je me g> demandais si il était d'usage de passer du style 2 colonnes à une g> colonne dans les annexes... Si oui comment fait on d'un point de vue g> latex ? d'un point de vue très latex, on fait ça (mais en fait, toujours de ce point de vue, on le sait déjà car on regarde la doc quand on tombe sur un problème qui a forcément été rencontré par des générations d'utilisateurs, et a donc évidemment une solution) \begin{figure*} From - Tue Mar 30 10:21:51 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2U8LLfp016343 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:21:22 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NwWhJ-0006sD-NM for gut@ens.fr; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:21:19 +0200 Received: from celsius02.unibw-hamburg.de ([139.11.215.121]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:21:17 +0200 Received: from giggzounet by celsius02.unibw-hamburg.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:21:17 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gut@ens.fr From: giggzounet Subject: Re: Passer d'un style 2 colonnes =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E0_une_colo?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?nne_dans_les_annexes?= Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:21:05 +0200 Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <1604181450.20100330101641@ujf-grenoble.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: celsius02.unibw-hamburg.de User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; fr; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100228 SUSE/3.0.3-3.1 Thunderbird/3.0.3 In-Reply-To: <1604181450.20100330101641@ujf-grenoble.fr> X-Greylist: IP, sender and recipient auto-whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:21:22 +0200 (CEST) Le 30/03/2010 10:16, Thierry Bouche a écrit : > Bonjour, > > Le mardi 30 mars 2010, vers 10:04:10, giggzounet écrivit : > > g> Bonjour, > > g> j'écris un article pour un journal scientifique. Le style latex est à 2 > g> colonnes obligatoires. J'ai des images qui perdent leur sens si elles > g> sont minuscules et donc le style 2 colonnes me pose problème. Je me > g> demandais si il était d'usage de passer du style 2 colonnes à une > g> colonne dans les annexes... Si oui comment fait on d'un point de vue > g> latex ? > > d'un point de vue très latex, on fait ça (mais en fait, toujours de ce > point de vue, on le sait déjà car on regarde la doc quand on tombe sur > un problème qui a forcément été rencontré par des générations > d'utilisateurs, et a donc évidemment une solution) > > \begin{figure*} > > merci! j'avais la solution sous les yeux...mais je me disais que le figure* allait me virer la numérotations...ce que je ne voulais pas...bon la prochaine j'essayerai avant de poster... merci encore! bye From - Tue Mar 30 10:40:20 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from mx2.cnrs-dir.fr (mx.cnrs-dir.fr [193.55.76.239]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2U8doEi035514 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:39:51 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.cnrs-dir.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378815D07D1 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:39:50 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cnrs-dir.fr Received: from mx2.cnrs-dir.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (leonV3.dmz.cnrs-dir.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GdrmvrgkxOaa for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:39:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.cnrs-dir.fr (cezanne.auteuil.cnrs-dir.fr [193.51.136.2]) by mx2.cnrs-dir.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F1635D07CB for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:39:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (CGM300370.cma.cnrs-dir.fr [193.55.76.218]) by smtp.cnrs-dir.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B5EE2FE1F for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:39:48 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4BB1B8D4.2000104@cnrs-dir.fr> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:39:48 +0200 From: Romain Vanel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: xetex xelatex - grec - fonte - codage - unicode - conversion Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:39:51 +0200 (CEST) Bonjour, encore un problème de codage. après avoir résolu, grâce à la collaboration de certains d'entre vous, les problèmes de fontes grecques Unicode, nous nous sommes rendu compte, un peu trop tard sans doute, que nous allons rencontrer un problème de taille. Les contributeurs à notre publication nous fournirons très probablement des texte au format Word Windows ou Mac, et n'utiliserons certainement PAS des fontes Unicode. Vous comprenez donc ma question : quelle solution avons nous pour "convertir", ou en tout cas utiliser les textes grec des auteurs dans notre maquette Xelatex. Et Xelatex est il seulement la meilleurs solution dans ce cas là ? Nous faudra t il tout re-coder en utilisant quelque chose comme \textgreek. Je précise que leur demander d'utiliser une fonte Unicode en lieu et place de leur fonte habituelle n'aurait un effet que très relatif. La question reste donc posée. Dans ce cas, est-ce aussi "un problème qui a forcément été rencontré par des générations d'utilisateurs" ? ;-) Merci à tous ! Bonne journée romain From - Tue Mar 30 17:56:30 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from mail-bw0-f217.google.com (mail-bw0-f217.google.com [209.85.218.217]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2UFtvMO082454 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 17:55:59 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so1197954bwz.9 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 08:55:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:received:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=leegqJJ22d/C1v0axB+X7sV6f6yfwzaHM1l6KpzAP78=; b=qAnAeFu2P5xc5PbYuvhAuDRbWaKeQ54Me6T1YlJHtd9XK2OH9n3sNzJgMu/FGnRdZe K+JRHkiULt3rsH2CV058FThHpTU6uFa68rIupYyhJF7CL4NxUqrXrx5LUh6SrAq+T3Yh Eqz0+rlVqO73CGJBVmNfdc9GFMeAjpXM4wgmc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=h2H6Tfzuww3HrCrokY+OvCrqPv1uTG3NbPk8XHXrs4A1+ISGvpXQ2sBGudMV8z2xgb 2tRbaLwFKi1ZqV9/VFCWmwxKoQX2Ju417jqfOV3DY6Ez01aGIQDbEGWso61k53lPV9+r rs8h8ccvd24tCqRRdR1vZOVrcLzLN1QTuZlMs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.76.148 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 08:55:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:55:56 -0400 Received: by 10.204.84.5 with SMTP id h5mr1431077bkl.164.1269964556935; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 08:55:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: paralist+hyperref From: Olivier Guichard To: gut@ens.fr Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db2c1a4b25a5048306aa8b X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 30 Mar 2010 17:55:59 +0200 (CEST) --0016e6db2c1a4b25a5048306aa8b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bonjour, dans le code suivant la r=E9f=E9rence au premier lemme n'est correcte (le n= um=E9ro est bon mais le lien renvoie au d=E9but du document) tandis que celle au second lemme l'est. Est-ce un probl=E8me de paralist ? hyperref ? amsart ? de mon installation ? comment corriger ? Merci. Olivier \documentclass{amsart} \usepackage{paralist} \usepackage{hyperref} \newtheorem{lem}{Lemma} \begin{document} Lemma~\ref{lem1}, lemma~\ref{lem2} \newpage \begin{lem} \label{lem1} \begin{asparaenum} \item 1 \end{asparaenum} \end{lem} \begin{lem} \ \label{lem2} \begin{asparaenum} \item 2 \end{asparaenum} \end{lem} \end{document} --0016e6db2c1a4b25a5048306aa8b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Bonjour,

dans le code suivant la r=E9f=E9rence au premier lemme = n'est correcte (le num=E9ro est bon mais le lien renvoie au d=E9but du = document) tandis que celle au second lemme l'est.
Est-ce un probl=E8= me de paralist ? hyperref ? amsart ? de mon installation ?
comment corriger ?
Merci.

Olivier


\documentclass{amsar= t}
\usepackage{paralist}
\usepackage{hyperref}
\newtheorem{lem}{Le= mma}
\begin{document}

Lemma~\ref{lem1}, lemma~\ref{lem2}
\newp= age

\begin{lem}
\label{lem1}
=A0 \begin{asparaenum}
=A0 \item 1=A0=A0=A0 \end{asparaenum}
\end{lem}

\begin{lem}
\
\label= {lem2}
=A0 \begin{asparaenum}
=A0 \item 2
=A0=A0=A0 \end{asparaenu= m}
\end{lem}

\end{document}


--0016e6db2c1a4b25a5048306aa8b-- From - Tue Mar 30 18:04:08 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from smtp2f.orange.fr (smtp2f.orange.fr [80.12.242.151]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2UG3cfH086547 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:03:39 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2f13.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9034380004AC for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:03:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2f13.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 8342F80004B8 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:03:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from Fertel.home (ARennes-353-1-56-155.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr [90.1.255.155]) by mwinf2f13.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 331EC80004AC for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:03:38 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20100330160338209.331EC80004AC@mwinf2f13.orange.fr Message-Id: <5168099A-87D9-4738-9C7E-0E6124271AB8@orange.fr> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jacques_Andr=E9?= To: gut@ens.fr In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-48--399958334 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: [gut] paralist+hyperref Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:03:37 +0200 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:03:40 +0200 (CEST) --Apple-Mail-48--399958334 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Le 30 mars 2010 =E0 17:55, Olivier Guichard a =E9crit : > > Bonjour, > > dans le code suivant la r=E9f=E9rence au premier lemme n'est correcte=20= =20 > (le num=E9ro est bon mais le lien renvoie au d=E9but du document) tandis= =20=20 > que celle au second lemme l'est. > Est-ce un probl=E8me de paralist ? hyperref ? amsart ? de mon=20=20 > installation ? > comment corriger ? essayez comme =E7a : Lemma~\ref{lem1}, lemma~\ref{lem2} \newpage \begin{lem}\phantomsection \label{lem1} -- Jacques ANDR=C9 --Apple-Mail-48--399958334 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Le 30 mars 2010 =E0 17:55= , Olivier Guichard a =E9crit :


Bonjour,

dans le code suivant la r=E9= f=E9rence au premier lemme n'est correcte (le num=E9ro est bon mais le lien= renvoie au d=E9but du document) tandis que celle au second lemme l'est.Est-ce un probl=E8me de paralist ? hyperref ? amsart ? de mon installation= ?
comment corriger ?

essayez comm= e =E7a :

Lemma~\ref{lem1}, lemma~\ref{lem2}
\newpage

\begin{lem}\phantomsection
\= label{lem1}



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Jacques ANDR=C9



--Apple-Mail-48--399958334-- From - Tue Mar 30 18:22:23 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS autolearn=disabled version=3.2.5 Received: from mail-bw0-f217.google.com (mail-bw0-f217.google.com [209.85.218.217]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2UGLsRh096073 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:21:56 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: by bwz9 with SMTP id 9so1219831bwz.9 for ; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 09:21:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:received:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=bI2OBnlHpsgpOjl29dGhl8SPGDDvUoni1lf8Gm+QMAY=; b=A57U1K0415nxEzEZZB1/5nyUx9ngQloCSM9ghyqSwxLGwM8ytBybSyk/kQoUaRwZoG Rhjyn/A55Vo/Voq7R8j9xvGS8SzYM8yoTNBbPnnyXksZnQQAw4ESY1kMxWLlRkKoZ0CC YsCX0RvWnDIow3FIvYTlgFbuzUo3HKQpa4U4c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OxTm7dBSGayxJCA3HCkG5cwjv5hRyeY0t1r6vfrQ2iCu+aUdrL1ZhsdHpw4/uMWrEL +XVBf8G0GvxCaf0qMXK/HT3Xn5J/VYBQmCscmIEeb43UC/08BG0rNp4H7408tlVM76+K tJSJuwha37aKAOn89qPE1FdaIo26kxhqZ9bEU= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.76.148 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 09:21:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5168099A-87D9-4738-9C7E-0E6124271AB8@orange.fr> References: <5168099A-87D9-4738-9C7E-0E6124271AB8@orange.fr> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:21:54 -0400 Received: by 10.204.33.131 with SMTP id h3mr1539556bkd.53.1269966114702; Tue, 30 Mar 2010 09:21:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gut] paralist+hyperref From: Olivier Guichard To: gut@ens.fr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:21:56 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id o2UGLsRh096073 2010/3/30 Jacques André > > \phantomsection Merci ! Olivier From - Wed Mar 31 08:43:37 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.1 Received: from mx2.cnrs-dir.fr (mx.cnrs-dir.fr [193.55.76.239]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2V6h9rZ070817 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:43:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.cnrs-dir.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA6D5D07DE for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:43:09 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cnrs-dir.fr Received: from mx2.cnrs-dir.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (leonV3.dmz.cnrs-dir.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WISqJj-Chp8V for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:43:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.cnrs-dir.fr (cezanne.auteuil.cnrs-dir.fr [193.51.136.2]) by mx2.cnrs-dir.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B775D07B9 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:43:04 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (CGM300370.cma.cnrs-dir.fr [193.55.76.218]) by smtp.cnrs-dir.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A457E2FE17 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:43:04 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4BB2EEF8.5090907@cnrs-dir.fr> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:43:04 +0200 From: Romain Vanel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] xetex xelatex - grec - fonte - codage - unicode - conversion References: <4BB1B8D4.2000104@cnrs-dir.fr> In-Reply-To: <4BB1B8D4.2000104@cnrs-dir.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:43:10 +0200 (CEST) Le nombre de réaction me laisse penser que nous ne sommes pas nombreux à avoir rencontrer ce problème... Nous allons faire des tests, et évaluer après réception des contributions le nombre de texte à, éventuellement ré-encoder. Selon le ratio entre caractère latins / grecs, il est possible que nous nous tournions vers un outils un peu plus Wysiwyg.... dommage... Néanmoins, si des idées vous arrivent.... ;-) merci ! Romain Vanel a écrit : > Bonjour, > > encore un problème de codage. > après avoir résolu, grâce à la collaboration de certains d'entre vous, > les problèmes de fontes grecques Unicode, nous nous sommes rendu > compte, un peu trop tard sans doute, que nous allons rencontrer un > problème de taille. > Les contributeurs à notre publication nous fournirons très > probablement des texte au format Word Windows ou Mac, et n'utiliserons > certainement PAS des fontes Unicode. Vous comprenez donc ma question : > quelle solution avons nous pour "convertir", ou en tout cas utiliser > les textes grec des auteurs dans notre maquette Xelatex. Et Xelatex > est il seulement la meilleurs solution dans ce cas là ? Nous faudra t > il tout re-coder en utilisant quelque chose comme \textgreek. Je > précise que leur demander d'utiliser une fonte Unicode en lieu et > place de leur fonte habituelle n'aurait un effet que très relatif. La > question reste donc posée. > Dans ce cas, est-ce aussi "un problème qui a forcément été rencontré > par des générations d'utilisateurs" ? ;-) > > Merci à tous ! > > Bonne journée > > romain > From - Wed Mar 31 08:58:36 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=disabled version=3.3.1 Received: from smtp2f.orange.fr (smtp2f.orange.fr [80.12.242.152]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2V6w8W8076474 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:58:10 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2f24.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id D017A80009F2 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:58:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2f24.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C32A580009F7 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:58:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from drums (ALille-156-1-12-226.w83-198.abo.wanadoo.fr [83.198.83.226]) by mwinf2f24.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9218E80009F2 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:58:08 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20100331065808599.9218E80009F2@mwinf2f24.orange.fr Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:58:08 +0200 From: Denis =?ISO-8859-15?B?Qml0b3V66Q==?= To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] xetex xelatex - grec - fonte - codage - unicode - conversion Message-ID: <20100331085808.62ee66dc@drums> In-Reply-To: <4BB2EEF8.5090907@cnrs-dir.fr> References: <4BB1B8D4.2000104@cnrs-dir.fr> <4BB2EEF8.5090907@cnrs-dir.fr> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.2 (GTK+ 2.18.6; i586-mandriva-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 31 Mar 2010 08:58:10 +0200 (CEST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by nef2.ens.fr id o2V6w8W8076474 Le mercredi 31/03/10 à 08h43, Romain Vanel a écrit : > Le nombre de réaction me laisse penser que nous ne sommes pas > nombreux à avoir rencontrer ce problème... Dans ce cas, il peut valoir le coup de poser la question sur le forum fr.comp.text.tex ou sur le forum anglophone comp.text.tex. -- Denis From - Wed Mar 31 09:01:19 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.1 Received: from mx2.cnrs-dir.fr (mx.cnrs-dir.fr [193.55.76.239]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2V70q3U077617 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:00:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.cnrs-dir.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 934ED5D07E1 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:00:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cnrs-dir.fr Received: from mx2.cnrs-dir.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (leonV3.dmz.cnrs-dir.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YH9gthaox4hf for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:00:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp.cnrs-dir.fr (cezanne.auteuil.cnrs-dir.fr [193.51.136.2]) by mx2.cnrs-dir.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 964485D07E3 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:00:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (CGM300370.cma.cnrs-dir.fr [193.55.76.218]) by smtp.cnrs-dir.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86ADD2FE17 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:00:51 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4BB2F323.8060104@cnrs-dir.fr> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:00:51 +0200 From: Romain Vanel User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] xetex xelatex - grec - fonte - codage - unicode - conversion References: <4BB1B8D4.2000104@cnrs-dir.fr> <4BB2EEF8.5090907@cnrs-dir.fr> <20100331085808.62ee66dc@drums> In-Reply-To: <20100331085808.62ee66dc@drums> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:00:54 +0200 (CEST) oui c'est prévu ! ce soir ! Denis Bitouzé a écrit : > Le mercredi 31/03/10 à 08h43, > Romain Vanel a écrit : > > >> Le nombre de réaction me laisse penser que nous ne sommes pas >> nombreux à avoir rencontrer ce problème... >> > > Dans ce cas, il peut valoir le coup de poser la question sur le forum > fr.comp.text.tex ou sur le forum anglophone comp.text.tex. > From - Wed Mar 31 13:52:18 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.1 Received: from actarus.univ-poitiers.fr (actarus.univ-poitiers.fr [195.83.66.86]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2VBpq1o019228 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:51:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at univ-poitiers.fr Received: from [195.220.217.21] (rt-chef-dept.iutc.univ-poitiers.fr [195.220.217.21]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by actarus.univ-poitiers.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8EBD8DEB8 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:51:50 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4BB33ACA.5070401@univ-poitiers.fr> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:06:34 +0200 From: Claude Chaigne User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Probl=E8me_PS_puis_PDF?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:51:53 +0200 (CEST) Bonjour, J'ai un problème au moment de visionner mon document sous PDF (après dvips.exe). J'utilise la distribution Miktex 2.8 avec l'éditeur TeXnicenter. J'utilise pour cela la configuration Wizard qui jusqu'ici me donnait pleinement satisfaction. J'ai des figures eps et c'est pour cela que j'utilise ghostcript C:\Program Files\gs\gs8.71\bin\gswin32c.exe pour changer de format et obtenit le format pdf J'obtiens mes figures et quelques caractères (?) et aussi le tour de mes tableaux. Je n'ai pas mon texte! Cela fonctionne bien sous DVI et sous PS. Si quelqu'un pouvait m'aiguiller? En vous remerciant -- Chaigne Claude IUT - Resp. Département Réseaux et Télécommunications Formation continue-VAE Mobile : 0671922392 Tél:0549025210 (secrétariat) ou 11 (mon bureau) Université de Poitiers From - Wed Mar 31 14:21:22 2010 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on di.ens.fr X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,HTML_MESSAGE, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.1 Received: from smtp.insa-lyon.fr (criges14.insa-lyon.fr [134.214.76.242]) by nef2.ens.fr (8.13.6/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id o2VCKsjQ033109 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:20:54 +0200 (CEST) X-Envelope-To: Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.insa-lyon.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6764AF129A for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:20:54 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: SMTP at INSA-LYON Received: from smtp.insa-lyon.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (criges14.insa-lyon.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wF7A47rqnwb1 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:20:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [134.214.73.111] (pc302-19.insa-lyon.fr [134.214.73.111]) by smtp.insa-lyon.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 050B0F1292 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:20:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4BB33E25.2080106@insa-lyon.fr> Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:20:53 +0200 From: Gilbert Travin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (X11/20100317) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gut@ens.fr Subject: Re: [gut] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Probl=E8me_PS_puis_PDF?= References: <4BB33ACA.5070401@univ-poitiers.fr> In-Reply-To: <4BB33ACA.5070401@univ-poitiers.fr> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------010204020500030306070708" X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.4 (nef2.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]); Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:20:54 +0200 (CEST) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010204020500030306070708 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Claude Chaigne a écrit :
Bonjour,

J'ai un problème au moment de visionner mon document sous PDF (après dvips.exe). J'utilise la distribution Miktex 2.8 avec l'éditeur TeXnicenter. J'utilise pour cela la configuration Wizard qui jusqu'ici me donnait pleinement satisfaction. J'ai des figures eps et c'est pour cela que j'utilise ghostcript  C:\Program Files\gs\gs8.71\bin\gswin32c.exe pour changer de format et obtenit le format pdf

J'obtiens mes figures et quelques caractères (?) et aussi le tour de mes tableaux. Je n'ai pas mon texte! Cela fonctionne bien sous DVI et sous PS. Si quelqu'un pouvait m'aiguiller?

En vous remerciant

Bonjour !
Si vous n'avez pas de texte peut-être faut-il chercher du côté des polices à "incorporer" dans le PDF ...

Avez-vous essayé les commandes dvi>pdf ou ps>pdf normalement incluses dans TexniCenter ?
Personnellement je fais toutes mes figures et images, photos etc.  en eps (c'est facile avec openoffice !) puis j'utilise les commandes du frontend (Kile ou Texmaker sous linux) qui enchaînent les opérations et en général ça se passe bien (compilation latex pour avoir un dvi, puis conversion en ps et pdf, la dernière étant lente pour les gros documents, mais ça marche !).

Sinon la commande en ligne (sous linux !) EPSTOPDF permet de convertir une image eps en image pdf : epstopdf image.eps produira un image.pdf en respectant la bounding box !

cordialement
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