From - Wed Aug 21 01:55:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from smtp.localnet.com (signup.localnet.com [207.251.201.46]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with SMTP id g7KNtfl65426 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 01:55:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 26390 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2002 23:55:20 -0000 Received: from ppp46.pm3-9.buf-ch.ny.localnet.com (HELO lugabout.jhcloos.org) (207.251.196.238) by smtp.localnet.com with SMTP; 20 Aug 2002 23:55:20 -0000 Received: from lugabout.jhcloos.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lugabout.jhcloos.org (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.3 (i386)) with ESMTP id EAB011018B for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2002 23:55:37 +0000 (GMT) To: metafont@ens.fr From: "James H. Cloos Jr." Date: 20 Aug 2002 19:55:37 -0400 Message-Id: Lines: 7 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanner: AMaVis 0.2.0-pre6 / Virus Scan X-Loop: metafont@nef.ens.fr X-Sequence: 562 Precedence: list Subject: [metafont] sans mono from cm sources Does anyone have any tips on generating a (mostly) sans fixed width font from the cm (or ec) sources? Changing the serifs to false is obvious, but what else would you change to get a good look? -JimC From - Wed Aug 21 20:48:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from mailhost.uark.edu (mail.uark.edu [130.184.5.66]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id g7LImSl15943 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 20:48:28 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mathdancer.uark.edu (mathdancer.uark.edu [130.184.55.45]) by mailhost.uark.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 0.9 (built Jul 29 2002)) with SMTP id <0H1700JC6IWQZA@mailhost.uark.edu> for metafont@ens.fr; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 13:48:26 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 13:49:30 -0500 From: "Daniel H.Luecking" Subject: Re: [metafont] sans mono from cm sources In-Reply-To: X-Sender: luecking@mail.uark.edu To: metafont@ens.fr Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20020821134930.007b66f0@mail.uark.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-Virus-Scanner: AMaVis 0.2.0-pre6 / Virus Scan X-Loop: metafont@nef.ens.fr X-Sequence: 563 Precedence: list At 07:55 PM 8/20/02 -0400, you wrote: >Does anyone have any tips on generating a (mostly) sans fixed width >font from the cm (or ec) sources? > >Changing the serifs to false is obvious, but what else would you >change to get a good look? > For sure you have to set beak#:=0pt#; just look what happens to "E", "F", "T", "Z", and "z" if you don't. I would probably try to change the programs for "l", "I", "i" and "Dotless i" setting serifs:=true for them. Either that, or add some features to them so the "l" and the "I" are distinguishable, and so they aren't so 'white' (in comparison with other characters) that they would produce a visual break where they appear. These characters are defined in romanu.mf, romanl.mf and romspl.mf. Finally, while I was at it, I might thin the strokes a bit. cmtt always seemed far too dark. That means to reduce all the parameters from crisp# through rule_thickness#. Reducing them about 20% gives it a colour similar to cmss. I have tried these things, and the result looks OK to me. Dan -- Daniel H. Luecking luecking@uark.edu Department of Mathematical Sciences University of Arkansas, Fayetteville AR 72701-1201 From - Wed Aug 21 23:05:32 2002 Return-Path: Received: from gwyn.kn-bremen.de (gwyn.kn-bremen.de [212.63.36.242]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id g7LL5Il34393 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 23:05:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from gwyn.kn-bremen.de (uucp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.kn-bremen.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -5) with ESMTP id g7LL5IrA023480 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 23:05:18 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by gwyn.kn-bremen.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -5) with UUCP id g7LL5ICd023478 for metafont@ens.fr; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 23:05:18 +0200 Received: (from ms@localhost) by lucien.oneiros.kn-bremen.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA14594 for metafont@ens.fr; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 22:17:42 +0200 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 22:17:41 +0200 From: Martin Schroeder To: metafont@ens.fr Subject: Re: [metafont] sans mono from cm sources Message-Id: <20020821221741.C31741@lucien.kn-bremen.de> Mail-Followup-To: metafont@ens.fr References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from cloos@jhcloos.com on Tue, Aug 20, 2002 at 07:55:37PM -0400 X-Virus-Scanner: AMaVis 0.2.0-pre6 / Virus Scan X-Loop: metafont@nef.ens.fr X-Sequence: 564 Precedence: list On 2002-08-20 19:55:37 -0400, James H. Cloos Jr. wrote: > Does anyone have any tips on generating a (mostly) sans fixed width > font from the cm (or ec) sources? There is a cmttssc (or so) somewhere on CTAN (maybe in an archive). Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de From - Thu Aug 22 00:01:05 2002 Return-Path: Received: from gwyn.kn-bremen.de (gwyn.kn-bremen.de [212.63.36.242]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id g7LM0rl41879 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 00:00:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from gwyn.kn-bremen.de (uucp@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gwyn.kn-bremen.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -5) with ESMTP id g7LM0rrA025992 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 00:00:53 +0200 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by gwyn.kn-bremen.de (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -5) with UUCP id g7LM0rWg025990 for metafont@ens.fr; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 00:00:53 +0200 Received: (from ms@localhost) by lucien.oneiros.kn-bremen.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA15329 for metafont@ens.fr; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 23:11:42 +0200 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 23:11:41 +0200 From: Martin Schroeder To: metafont@ens.fr Message-Id: <20020821231141.A15317@lucien.kn-bremen.de> Mail-Followup-To: metafont@ens.fr References: <20020821221741.C31741@lucien.kn-bremen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020821221741.C31741@lucien.kn-bremen.de>; from martin@oneiros.de on Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 10:17:41PM +0200 X-Virus-Scanner: AMaVis 0.2.0-pre6 / Virus Scan X-Loop: metafont@nef.ens.fr X-Sequence: 565 Precedence: list Subject: [metafont] cmttss (was: sans mono from cm sources) On 2002-08-21 22:17:41 +0200, Martin Schröder wrote: > There is a cmttssc (or so) somewhere on CTAN (maybe in an > archive). The accompanying three metafont files generate the three fonts, cmttsslc10, cmttssc10, and cmttssbc10, a set of fonts based on CMbase (and therefore by some definition Computer Modern fonts). [...] Arthur Ogawa 1101 San Antonio Road, Suite 413 Mountain View, CA 94043-1002 Internet: ogawa@orion.arc.nasa.gov gambate kudasai Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de