From - Fri Nov 8 22:02:03 2002 Return-Path: Received: from hosting1.tiscalinet.be (hosting1.tiscali.be [212.35.2.94]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id gA8L1pB97652 for ; Fri, 8 Nov 2002 22:01:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from [62.235.234.136] (helo=adelmotte) by hosting1.tiscalinet.be with smtp (Tiscalinet) id 18AGG8-0001zO-00 for ; Fri, 08 Nov 2002 22:01:45 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "Alain Delmotte" To: metafont@ens.fr Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 22:01:50 +0100 X-Mailer: Kanari Mailer 1.0 Organization: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Le Liseron =E9ditions?= X-Priority: 3 Message-Id: 3dcc263e002623d6@ADELMOTTE X-Kdocid: 3dcc2359001ad43c X-Kparentid: X-Krootid: 3dcc2359001ad43c X-Klevel: 0 X-Scanner: exiscan *18AGG8-0001zO-00*IIIBQoRz4H.* http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mime-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by nef.ens.fr id gA8L1pB97652 X-Virus-Scanner: AMaVis 0.2.0-pre6 / Virus Scan X-Loop: metafont@nef.ens.fr X-Sequence: 581 Precedence: list Subject: [metafont] dc fonts for the MacIntosh Hello, I work more or less as resource person for LaTeX. I am personally using MiKTeX under windows; but somebody asked me about a problem with TeXtures on a Mac. That person receives files created with ScientificWorkplace. Very often dc fonts are used and they are automatically replaced by other. On the Mac one uses PostScript fonts. Bluesky (creator of Textures) doesn't have a solution. Any help? Thanks Alain Delmotte From - Thu Nov 14 15:39:35 2002 Return-Path: Received: from dirty.research.bell-labs.com (dirty.research.bell-labs.com [204.178.16.6]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id gAEEdLB42283 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 15:39:24 +0100 (CET) Received: from grubby.research.bell-labs.com (H-135-104-2-9.research.bell-labs.com [135.104.2.9]) by dirty.research.bell-labs.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id gAEEdKhN026340 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:39:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from nslocum.cs.bell-labs.com (nslocum.cs.bell-labs.com [135.104.8.38]) by grubby.research.bell-labs.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id gAEEdEa89420 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:39:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from nslocum.cs.bell-labs.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nslocum.cs.bell-labs.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id gAEEdDjq126057777 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:39:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from hobby@localhost) by nslocum.cs.bell-labs.com (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id gAEEdB2x141670760 for metafont@ens.fr; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:39:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 09:39:11 -0500 (EST) From: John Hobby Message-Id: <200211141439.gAEEdB2x141670760@nslocum.cs.bell-labs.com> X-Virus-Scanner: AMaVis 0.2.0-pre6 / Virus Scan X-Loop: metafont@nef.ens.fr X-Sequence: 582 Precedence: list Subject: [metafont] MetaPost bug fix in the graph.mp macros I have fixed a bug the setrange command whereby nonzero lower bounds and upper bounds greater than about 10000 caused the lower bounds to get messed up. For example, a command like this can often cause the problem: setrange(110,110,"22000","22000"); I have updated the master copy of graph.mp in http://netlib.bell-labs.com/netlib/research/metapost.tar.Z and this should show up automatically in CTAN and various other places as metapost.tar.gz (or something like that). Since this is just a change in the macros, it does not really count as a new version of MetaPost. I do *not* recommend that casual users go to these master distributions. They are hard to install and serve mainly as a place for maintainers of TeX/LaTeX/METAFONT/MetaPost distrubtions to get their raw material. If you want to try it right away, just give the following macro redefinition after input graph - John Hobby %---------------------------------------------------% % @# is X_ or Y_; $ is Gxcvlin_ or Gycvlin_; l and h are numeric or string % It would not be OK to set (@#low,@#high) to a pair expression because $ might % try to rescale @#low when evaluating the right-hand side for @#high. vardef Gsetr_@#(suffix $)(expr l, h) = Gclbnds_@#; if @#ctyp>0: @#low = if abs @#ctyp<>log: $ fi Mlog_Str l; @#high = if abs @#ctyp<>log: $ fi Mlog_Str h; else: -@#high = if abs @#ctyp<>log: $ fi Mlog_Str l; -@#low = if abs @#ctyp<>log: $ fi Mlog_Str h; fi enddef; From - Thu Nov 14 20:36:46 2002 Return-Path: Received: from fort-point-station.mit.edu (FORT-POINT-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.7.76]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id gAEJaaB99888 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:36:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from grand-central-station.mit.edu (GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.82]) by fort-point-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA16369 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:36:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.86]) by grand-central-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA12352 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:31:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from mit.edu (pool-141-157-186-234.bos.east.verizon.net [141.157.186.234]) by melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA23435 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:31:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 14:31:40 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v548) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed From: Alexander Sauer-Budge To: metafont@ens.fr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.548) X-Virus-Scanner: AMaVis 0.2.0-pre6 / Virus Scan X-Loop: metafont@nef.ens.fr X-Sequence: 583 Precedence: list Subject: [metafont] MetaPost Graph Tick Label Font Size I cannot figure out how to change the font size used for the tick mark labels (e.g. 0.1,0.2,...) with the Graph package for MetaPost. I would like to make the tick mark labels larger, but saying "defaultscale:=1.8" doesn't seem to work. I am using "MetaPost (Web2C 7.3.1) 0.641" as part of the Fink port of teTeX on MacOS X 10.2.2. Any ideas on how to do this or why it might not be working? Thanks! Alex From - Fri Nov 15 09:03:45 2002 Return-Path: Received: from filemon.mecanica.upm.es (filemon.mecanica.upm.es [138.100.66.1]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id gAF83cB82318 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:03:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from [138.100.66.105] (helo=simux.mecanica.upm.es) by filemon.mecanica.upm.es with smtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18CbRw-0005EC-00 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:03:36 +0100 Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 06:40:46 +0100 From: smuelas To: metafont@ens.fr Message-Id: <20021115064046.3cf7876d.smuelas@mecanica.upm.es> Organization: ETSI de Caminos X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.1claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; ) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanner: AMaVis 0.2.0-pre6 / Virus Scan X-Loop: metafont@nef.ens.fr X-Sequence: 584 Precedence: list Subject: [metafont] New release of Metagraf Just to comunicate to the users of Metagraf, that a new release is available at http://w3.mecanica.upm.es/metapost/metagraf.php -- Santiago Muelas Profesor de Resistencia de Materiales y Cálculo de Estructuras ETSI de Caminos, Canales y Puertos (U.P.M) smuelas@mecanica.upm.es http://w3.mecanica.upm.es/~smuelas From - Fri Nov 15 10:36:36 2002 Return-Path: Received: from relay-1.kkf.net (relay-1.kkf.net [62.8.210.30]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with SMTP id gAF9aQB97488 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:36:26 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 14267 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2002 09:32:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO artinet.artcom-gmbh.de) (62.145.22.162) by 0 with SMTP; 15 Nov 2002 09:32:53 -0000 Received: (from uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id gAF9a3628438 for ens.fr!metafont; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:36:03 +0100 (MET) >Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m18CctD-001V2AC; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:35:51 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:35:51 +0100 From: Martin Schroeder To: metafont@ens.fr Subject: Re: [metafont] dc fonts for the MacIntosh Message-Id: <20021115093551.GJ25456@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: metafont@ens.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Received: from artcom8 by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:36 MET Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanner: AMaVis 0.2.0-pre6 / Virus Scan X-Loop: metafont@nef.ens.fr X-Sequence: 585 Precedence: list On 2002-11-08 22:01:50 +0100, Alain Delmotte wrote: > That person receives files created with ScientificWorkplace. > Very often dc fonts are used and they are automatically replaced > by other. On the Mac one uses PostScript fonts. The _d_c fonts are ancient and obsolete; CTAN holds a replacement of them with virtual fonts. The newer implementation are the _e_c fonts. > Bluesky (creator of Textures) doesn't have a solution. Really? Use the cm-super package (also on CTAN) and educate BSR. :-) Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2003/ From - Mon Nov 18 07:53:53 2002 Return-Path: Received: from hosting1.tiscalinet.be (hosting1.tiscali.be [212.35.2.94]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id gAI6rhB19486 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 07:53:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from [62.235.229.33] (helo=adelmotte) by hosting1.tiscalinet.be with smtp (Tiscalinet) id 18Dfmu-00043r-00; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 07:53:40 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "Alain Delmotte" To: metafont@ens.fr Subject: Re: Re: [metafont] dc fonts for the MacIntosh Cc: martin@oneiros.de Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 07:53:34 +0100 X-Mailer: Kanari Mailer 1.0 Organization: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Le Liseron =E9ditions?= X-Priority: 3 Message-Id: 3dd88e6e000650d4@ADELMOTTE X-Kdocid: 3dd88d35000186eb X-Kparentid: X-Krootid: 3dd88d35000186eb X-Klevel: 0 X-Scanner: exiscan *18Dfmu-00043r-00*oEexjwqi0/I* http://duncanthrax.net/exiscan/ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mime-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by nef.ens.fr id gAI6rhB19486 X-Virus-Scanner: AMaVis 0.2.0-pre6 / Virus Scan X-Loop: metafont@nef.ens.fr X-Sequence: 586 Precedence: list Hello, The problem is not to create new documents with dc but showing on screen and printing .dvi files in which the dc fonts has been used. Best regards, Alain --------------------------------------------------------------- Message original De : Martin Schroeder A : metafont@ens.fr Date : vendredi 15 novembre 2002 10:35 Objet : Re: [metafont] dc fonts for the MacIntosh --------------------------------------------------------------- On 2002-11-08 22:01:50 +0100, Alain Delmotte wrote: > That person receives files created with ScientificWorkplace. > Very often dc fonts are used and they are automatically replaced > by other. On the Mac one uses PostScript fonts. The _d_c fonts are ancient and obsolete; CTAN holds a replacement of them with virtual fonts. The newer implementation are the _e_c fonts. > Bluesky (creator of Textures) doesn't have a solution. Really? Use the cm-super package (also on CTAN) and educate BSR. :-) Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2003/ From - Mon Nov 18 10:18:38 2002 Return-Path: Received: from relay-1.kkf.net (relay-1.kkf.net [62.8.210.30]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with SMTP id gAI9IRB42543 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:18:27 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 17373 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2002 09:14:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO artinet.artcom-gmbh.de) (62.145.22.162) by 0 with SMTP; 18 Nov 2002 09:14:44 -0000 Received: (from uartcom@localhost) by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) id gAI9I3r26738; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:18:03 +0100 (MET) >Received: by artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de (Smail3.2 #1) id m18Di1s-000egLC; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:17:16 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:17:16 +0100 From: Martin Schroeder To: metafont@ens.fr Cc: Bernd Raichle Subject: Re: [metafont] dc fonts for the MacIntosh Message-Id: <20021118091716.GG3181@artcom8.artcom-gmbh.de> Mail-Followup-To: metafont@ens.fr, Bernd Raichle Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Received: from artcom8 by artinet.artcom-gmbh.de; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 10:18 MET Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Virus-Scanner: AMaVis 0.2.0-pre6 / Virus Scan X-Loop: metafont@nef.ens.fr X-Sequence: 587 Precedence: list [Quoting corrected] On 2002-11-18 07:53:34 +0100, Alain Delmotte wrote: >> On 2002-11-08 22:01:50 +0100, Alain Delmotte wrote: >> > That person receives files created with ScientificWorkplace. >> > Very often dc fonts are used and they are automatically replaced >> > by other. On the Mac one uses PostScript fonts. >> >> The _d_c fonts are ancient and obsolete; CTAN holds a replacement >> of them with virtual fonts. The newer implementation are the _e_c >> fonts. >> > The problem is not to create new documents with dc > but showing on screen and printing .dvi files in which > the dc fonts has been used. Your only hope is the dc-replacement with virtual fonts based on the cm fonts (which are available as Type 1) which once existed on CTAN (I can't find them anymore). Best regards Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2003/ From - Mon Nov 18 18:06:47 2002 Return-Path: Received: from coxeter.math.toronto.edu (coxeter.math.toronto.edu [128.100.68.3]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id gAIH6VB31468 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 18:06:31 +0100 (CET) Received: (from laurent@localhost) by coxeter.math.toronto.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0/UTMath 1.0) id gAIH6OU78218; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 12:06:24 -0500 Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 12:06:24 -0500 From: Larry Siebenmann Message-Id: <200211181706.gAIH6OU78218@coxeter.math.toronto.edu> To: a.delmotte@largevision.com, bkph@ai.mit.edu, laurent@math.toronto.edu, martin@oneiros.de, metafont@ens.fr X-Virus-Scanner: AMaVis 0.2.0-pre6 / Virus Scan X-Loop: metafont@nef.ens.fr X-Sequence: 588 Precedence: list Subject: [metafont] dc fonts on the MacIntosh Salut Alain Delmotte, Martin, and others > The problem is not to create new documents with dc > but showing on screen and printing .dvi files in which > the dc fonts has been used. To have a well defined problem we should know with which OS and implements the viewing and printing are desired. Not knowing better, I will focus on the font requisites for deriving type1 based ".pdf" files, as the latter are *widely* useful for printing and viewing. The old dc fonts are nearly compatible with the new ec fonts. Free type 1 ec fonts are found on CTAN in tex-archive/fonts/ps-type1/cm-super and also (for example) in the Bakoma TeX distribution tex-archive/systems/win32/bakoma/ In exploiting the dc ".dvi" files, the dc -> ec correspondence should be established via a font substitution table, which I hope you submit to CTAN once it is debugged. It is not so easy to construct because there is a wild nomenclature shift in going dc -> ec. I believe the metric differences at the ".dvi" level are negligible. To my knowlege, there is no virtual dc font set. Unfortunately, to process the dc DVIs, one will have to leave the Mac platform. Indeed cm-super fonts are not available on Mac. Why? Because Mac font metrics (i.e. FOND resources and a bit more) are needed, and these are are poorly understood, except perhaps by Y&Y. Berthold? Cheers, Laurent S. PS. Perhaps (tetex for MacOSX) and/or (CMacTeX) now uses ".pfb" files directly for PS and PDF production? That seems a development much to be encouraged; Textures for Mac OSX will surely support it ;=). Also, maybe the Mac FOND hassle will be resolved by an afm->FOND converter. PPS. Impeccable Textures solutions are available for French (and more) by using the virtual "ae" fonts on CTAN; they are CM based and T1 encoded. BUT TeX recompilation is needed here since I believe they are *not* sufficiently metrically compatible with "dc".